BisonRoadWarrior
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01-04-18 01:34 PM - Post#241999
Bucknell preview article
http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_O...
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BisonRoadWarrior
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01-04-18 01:43 PM - Post#242000
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Preview video featuring Stephen Brown
https://youtu.be/83i72ZJk4rA
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nitlion
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01-04-18 06:46 PM - Post#242035
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Lunch with the Bison today, in the good news, bad news dept, from Coach Davis. Mackenzie might be ready next week for, Lehigh, and Sestina is out for West Point and we will have to wait for the a decision on Monday's game. Hope that is end of the injury woes until we get everybody back an available.
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Bison137
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01-04-18 07:07 PM - Post#242036
In response to nitlion
Lunch with the Bison today, in the good news, bad news dept, from Coach Davis. Mackenzie might be ready next week for, Lehigh, and Sestina is out for West Point and we will have to wait for the a decision on Monday's game. Hope that is end of the injury woes until we get everybody back an available.
Is it Sestina's hip? Looked like he landed awkwardly on it when he was fouled vs Boston U. The injury news doesn't let up.
Any word on Avi?
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nitlion
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01-04-18 07:19 PM - Post#242039
In response to Bison137
Coach didn't go into the details on Nate, I agree as he seemed to get undercut and limped off the court favoring his hip. He only mentioned "Mac", and didn't offer any word on Avi, however, he was on the court during warm ups, I didn't notice any issue with his walking around.
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Old Bison
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01-04-18 08:49 PM - Post#242047
In response to nitlion
Wow, no Sestina now on the road. Who would have thought that 3 games into the PL season a W here would be considered a “big†win?
ESPN predictor has Army favored 52.5 to 47.5. Who would have thought we’d be underdog? Big premium given to the home team obviously but it would have been competitive with NS. Any other lines just out curiosity?
I’m laying the house on the Bison.
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Bison137
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01-04-18 09:06 PM - Post#242049
In response to Old Bison
Pomeroy has the Bison as a one-point favorite, with a 51% chance of a win.
Sagarin has BU as a two-point favorite.
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jkrun80
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01-04-18 09:58 PM - Post#242054
In response to Bison137
Paulie will get his wish to see more of Paul Newman. Hope the young man is ready.
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Bison137
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01-04-18 10:10 PM - Post#242056
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Paulie will get his wish to see more of Paul Newman. Hope the young man is ready.
I do too - although I think we may also see some of Bruce Moore at the five. Army's center, Matt Wilson, is one of the league's better ones and is 6-9 240 lbs. When he comes out, Army sometimes goes to 6-9 John Miller, who is not nearly as good, and sometimes they go small. Moore (or Thomas) could guard whoever goes in when Wilson is out.
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Paulie777
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01-04-18 11:25 PM - Post#242066
In response to jkrun80
Paulie will get his wish to see more of Paul Newman. Hope the young man is ready.
I hope all goes well at Army and we might as well play Paul Newman sink or swim. Army always seems to play rough with our freshman bigs, Sestina and Oberfeld come to mind right away. Lets come out of there relatively unscathed and with a win, though both are going to be difficult.
Army and Bucknell play similar styles and this is going to end up as a piissing contest and Army is Alpha here on their home court. Army also has good energy and has a knack of taking their opponents energy and making it their own. So this is going to be a tough game.
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HuskyColonial
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01-05-18 09:27 AM - Post#242080
In response to Paulie777
This whole season is one big *sigh* at this point. Injuries, poor coaching and lackadaisical defense will be my memories of what is becoming a “lost seasonâ€
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bison63
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01-05-18 11:07 AM - Post#242101
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I’m not ready to get on the coaches case yet, but I do question his aversion to calling time out when clearly one is needed.
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MyOhMighty
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01-05-18 02:58 PM - Post#242161
In response to bison63
And let's watch the substitution pattern, which I think has been idiosyncratic. In the Boston game, 10 Bison players played in the first 10 minutes. Many different line-up combinations are being used. I don't know if this is strategy or just an attempt to find something that works in the particular moment. But, basketball is a game of rhythm and flow, and I think for some players this type of substitution philosophy could feel disruptive. It's not hockey.
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Paulie777
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At Army 01-05-18 03:13 PM - Post#242165
In response to MyOhMighty
Boston played well, but I believe we threw that game away precisely by the reasons of the two posts above. We constantly hear (and I believe) we have a deep team but why play Zach Thomas if he clearly is sick as a dog? I could tell at the beginning of the game Nate Jones was fired up to play. Put him in! Certainly get the right combination of players in and let them do their thing. Then when they need a little help take the timeout when it is time, no pun intended. The time to take a time out is one of the most consistent thing in basketball whether you are Duke or a Division III, why buck that trend and wait when that strategy never seems to pan out. Let Zach rest, get a decent combination in there, chill and drink some water and be alert enough to take a time out when needed. How hard is that? I'm just a townie basketball board poster, but thats how I see it.
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Bison137
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01-05-18 03:25 PM - Post#242174
In response to MyOhMighty
And let's watch the substitution pattern, which I think has been idiosyncratic. In the Boston game, 10 Bison players played in the first 10 minutes. Many different line-up combinations are being used. I don't know if this is strategy or just an attempt to find something that works in the particular moment. But, basketball is a game of rhythm and flow, and I think for some players this type of substitution philosophy could feel disruptive. It's not hockey.
You may recall that ND did the same thing last year, often using 11 or 12 players in the first 10 minutes. I didn't like it and agree it can be disruptive. It was only in the latter part of the season last year when he shortened the rotation to nine or ten, with Robertson, Azzinaro, O'Reilly, and Jones (until West Virginia) seeing their minutes reduced or eliminated.
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Bison89
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01-05-18 03:32 PM - Post#242178
In response to Old Bison
Wow, no Sestina now on the road. Who would have thought that 3 games into the PL season a W here would be considered a “big†win?
ESPN predictor has Army favored 52.5 to 47.5. Who would have thought we’d be underdog? Big premium given to the home team obviously but it would have been competitive with NS. Any other lines just out curiosity?
I’m laying the house on the Bison.
Paulie, can you please apply your algorithm to this and come up with the real point spread?
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Bison137
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Re: At Army 01-05-18 03:35 PM - Post#242179
In response to Paulie777
We constantly hear (and I believe) we have a deep team but why play Zach Thomas if he clearly is sick as a dog? I could tell at the beginning of the game Nate Jones was fired up to play. Put him in! . . . Then when they need a little help take the timeout when it is time, no pun intended. The time to take a time out is one of the most consistent thing in basketball whether you are Duke or a Division III, why buck that trend and wait when that strategy never seems to pan out. Let Zach rest, get a decent combination in there, chill and drink some water and be alert enough to take a time out when needed. How hard is that? I'm just a townie basketball board poster, but thats how I see it.
Even playing with the flu, Thomas was one of the two best players on the floor for BU - 25 points and 13 rebounds. (Few Bucknell players have gotten 13+ boards in a game even once in their entire careers.) Jones had 12 unproductive minutes and struggled to guard Hankerson.
I agree that ND occasionally needs to call a timeout to break an opponents' momentum - but there are not enough timeouts allowed to take one just to rest. A team basically has one use-it-or-lose-it timeout in the first half and then three in the second half, at least two of which generally should be saved for the final two minutes. I don't fault ND's second half timeout strategy, but I think he sometimes hoards the one first half timeout too much - always wanting to save it for the final 40 seconds of the half.
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Paulie777
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01-05-18 03:56 PM - Post#242183
In response to Bison89
I’m laying the house on the Bison.
Paulie, can you please apply your algorithm to this and come up with the real point spread?
Bison89, my algorithm did not work last time, so its back to the drawing board for that, I need a few days and some good single barrel bourbon-I'll get back to you.
I would tell Old Bison not to lay the house on this one, but he seems to be one to not listen to advice and does his own thing.
We have beaten Army the last seven times or so, so I think they are poised to crush us like an ant on their home court. I hope we win but am not too optimistic. I'll take comfort in the one thing Army doesn't have:
http://www.orgs.bucknell.edu/dance_team/performanc ...
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Old Bison
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01-05-18 04:55 PM - Post#242193
In response to Paulie777
Tx Paulie, you’re very perceptive!!!
My only response is that we have something in common. I like women. I won’t however admit to ogling the dancing bison co-eds, but I for one would not disavow you based on your Uncle Ernie tendencies. Any chance of you running for Congress in the Town Tavern district? 🤣😜
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BisonRoadWarrior
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01-05-18 07:58 PM - Post#242207
In response to Old Bison
On pregame show, Birdsong said Mackenzie hopes to be back next week, Avi “maybe another couple of weeks, maybe sooner.†Sestina hoping to play Monday, but “that’s not a certainty yet.†Meanwhile, O’Reilly will play, but hasn’t been practicing due to a nagging foot injury.
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