rbg
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02-19-21 01:29 PM - Post#321012
I am moving this topic to its own thread.
https://ivyleague.com/news/2021/2/18/genera l-ivy-l...
The Ivy League Council of Presidents' joint statement:
- As campus and community leaders, we believe that our public health responsibilities and educational principles preclude us from sponsoring Ivy League athletics competition this spring. The public health measures now in effect at all Ivy League universities have been carefully designed to support our teaching and research missions while keeping our students, faculty, staff and neighboring communities safe. These policies include restrictions on travel, limitations on campus visitors, and other pandemic related regulations that are not compatible with the Ivy League’s usual competition schedule. In the Ivy League, these measures must apply equally to our athletics programs along with other academic and co-curricular activities.
We know that this news will come as a disappointment to many in our community. We regret the many sacrifices that have been required in response to the pandemic, and we appreciate the resilience of our student-athletes, coaches and staff in the face of adversity during this difficult and unusual year. While we would like nothing better than to deliver a complete season of competition, these are the necessary decisions for the Ivy League in the face of the health concerns posed by the ongoing and dangerous pandemic. We will continue to monitor the situation as we move forward so that our universities can determine whether Ivy League principles and evolving health conditions might allow for limited, local competition later this spring. -
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rbg
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02-19-21 01:30 PM - Post#321013
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The newly adopted parameters for practice and competition:
The Ivy League will not be conducting a conference spring season
Due to the ongoing impacts of the pandemic, and in order to maintain compliance both with campus travel, visitor and gathering policies and also with the state guidelines governing each institution, the Ivy League will not conduct conference seasons or conference postseason events in any spring sports.
Continuance of Ivy League athletics activities phases
Member institutions will continue with the league-wide phases for athletics activities already in place on all Ivy League campuses, subject to individual institutional policies. These phases govern athletics activities including training, practices, and other team and individual activities. While the league’s goal is to work toward local competition in Phase IV, it is currently not permitted on any Ivy League campus.
Potential opportunities for local spring competition
If public health conditions substantially improve and if permitted by an institution, local non-conference competition may be allowed to occur this spring. These competitions will be subject to league stipulations and must remain consistent with institutional policies for comparable co-curricular activities, including applicable travel restrictions for on-campus students and university visitor policies.
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rbg
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02-19-21 01:31 PM - Post#321014
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Spring 2021 Student-Athlete Eligibility and Compliance Q&A
https://ivyleague.com/documents/2021/2/18// Spring_...
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rbg
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02-19-21 01:33 PM - Post#321015
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YDN
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/02/18/ivy-l eag...
- The long-awaited decision comes a week after an exception to the Ivy League’s long-standing eligibility policies was announced. The one-time waiver allows graduating seniors the chance to compete as graduate students at their current schools next year, provided that they are accepted into a degree-granting graduate program. The announcement garnered mixed reactions from student-athletes, many of whom seemed puzzled by its timing, which fell after application deadlines to more than 50 of Yale’s graduate programs passed in December and January. -
- “The league was headed this direction for months,†Yale baseball alumnus Benny Wanger ’19, who had previously vocalized his frustration with the Ivy League’s decision-making process, said. “It’s sad, but not surprising to anyone. This is a result of poor leadership, and while every other DI conference moves towards the start of their spring season too. Since this was clearly a preset decision (COVID rates are dropping dramatically), presidents should’ve made this announcement back in December to help their student-athletes make future plans. If I were a current Ivy student-athlete I would feel totally betrayed by the administration. This decision is going to impact the Ivy League negatively for years to come.â€
When asked for a timeline of when the decision was made and what prompted the Council of Presidents to decide to cancel the spring sports season, Panto said that the Ivy League does not comment on Council discussions and referred the News to the joint statement that was released with the announcement. According to The New York Times, the Ivy League is the only NCAA Division I conference that has not released a baseball schedule. -
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02-19-21 01:42 PM - Post#321016
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NYT
Ivy League Cancels Spring Sports Despite Pleas From Athletes
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/sports/ivy -leag...
- “It was definitely heartbreaking, but we were not surprised with the decision,†said Eduardo Malinowski, a senior second baseman at Penn. Like most Ivy League athletes, he learned of the decision not from his coaches but through the league’s announcement on Twitter. -
- “For a league that prides itself in being the leaders of creating opportunities for students, we have had ours ripped away,†Ryan Marra, a sophomore first baseman at Brown, wrote on Twitter.
He added: “We have been constantly tested, monitored, and have followed all the protocols we were told would get us a season. Numbers needed to go down, and they have. We needed to stay healthy, and we have. The reality of it is this decision was made a long time ago.â€
Members of the men’s and women’s lacrosse teams at Brown started an online petition last month that urged Ivy League presidents to let sports seasons go forward. It has garnered more than 10,000 signatures. -
- How those pleas landed on the ears of Ivy League leaders is unclear. Robin Harris, the league’s executive director, who is a liaison to the university presidents, declined an interview request through a spokesman. But she did issue a statement saying that “the presidents created a potential pathway to competition in large part because they are aware†of the athletes’ desire to compete. -
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rbg
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02-19-21 01:46 PM - Post#321018
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Based on the WSJ article's comment that RH was intrigued by Joseph Tsai's lacrosse bubble and her refusal to talk to the NYT, is it possible that she and her group are not on board with the Council's decision?
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02-19-21 05:51 PM - Post#321031
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I guess that it is possible but does Robin have the backbone to stand up?? It is good to see some IL players start to express their disappointment. I always hoped that someone like Coach Jones would stand up and represent the interests of student athletes but it would be tough for ADs or Coaches to publicly express their opposition. Coach Banghart may have stood up but she was probably too competitive to be a IL Coach over the long haul.
Student athletes give so much in relationship to what they receive but at least they play the game that they love other than in the IL this year.
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03-03-21 10:22 PM - Post#321325
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Penn men's lacrosse addresses Ivy League presidents in letter two days prior to spring cancelations
https://www.thedp.com/article/2021/03/penn- mens-la...
- The Quakers outlined their evidence in three different sections. The letter opened by presenting scientific research that on-field transmission of the COVID-19 virus is nearly impossible. The second section argued that the Ivy League conference has made a commitment to follow science, and prohibiting spring competition was not aligned with this commitment. Lastly, the team ended the letter by making clear that canceling the season will affect both the players' mental health and safety from the virus off the field. -
- In the letter, the team highlights the findings of medical professionals who examined the leagues and conferences that have successfully put on seasons during the pandemic. The Quakers put particular emphasis on the fact that lacrosse specifically has very minimal total time of close contact. -
- The Quakers repeatedly acknowledge how scientific studies have deemed outdoor activities and gatherings safe while claiming indoor happenings unsafe. With most Ivy League institutions allowing for on-campus housing and dorm life this semester, the lacrosse team argues that a season of competition would be just as safe as “university-endorsed dorm living.†-
- The final section of the letter posits that not having a spring season would likely result in student-athletes being less conscious of COVID-19.
"In an attempt to be as transparent and honest as possible, we think it is undeniable that, despite the ethical issues, ​student-athletes will be significantly less conscious of COVID-19 if there is no season​," the letter states. "​In our eyes, the very small risk of having an in-game transmission is heavily outweighed by the misguided risks that would inevitably be taken by the average student-athlete if there is no season.​ We know that, of course, this is not a reason to have a season, but ​we strongly hold that it would be naive to think that cancelling the season would be more COVID-safe than having a season."
In addition, Miniter and his teammates stress the negative effects a cancelation will have on the mental health of student-athletes, given the vast amount of time and effort each athlete has put into their sport in hopes of earning a spot in the lineup each season. -
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Go Green
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03-04-21 06:46 AM - Post#321332
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A few weeks ago, Robin Harris made comments acknowledging that competition per se is safe. But's the travel and logistics that are concerns of the Presidents.
If the letter didn't address those issues, then it's DOA with the Presidents.
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PennFan10
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03-04-21 12:42 PM - Post#321337
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I call BS on that excuse. That's not why they cancelled the season. There is no science behind "travel and logistics".
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Go Green
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03-04-21 03:00 PM - Post#321340
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I call BS on that excuse. That's not why they cancelled the season. There is no science behind "travel and logistics".
If that's correct, then my kid's school hasn't gotten the memo.
We're still operating on the rule that if the family travels outside the area, then the kid is expected to do remote learning for two weeks upon return.
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03-04-21 03:22 PM - Post#321341
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300+ D1 Basketball programs got the memo on travel and protocols.
Last I checked, every Ivy League school is doing remote learning anyway.
That is NOT the reason the Presidents cancelled sports.
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03-04-21 05:10 PM - Post#321344
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We all know that. It was the fiction of student-athletes, and the fact that to create a bubble (which easily could have been done for all our sports and we easily could have raised the money from alumni to pay for it) would poke holes in that treasured fiction.
It's really time to have an Ivy convention to revise the Ivy Agreement.
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