84grad
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10-25-21 09:33 AM - Post#327370
What an amazing scene last Saturday at Palmer Stadium. Murphy was as irate as I've ever seen him after the call (which has now been conceded by the Ivy League to be incorrect - an unreviewable reversal, which I and other Harvard supporters were screaming from the stands).
Alas, the 1940 days of Cornell conceding a win post-game after a fifth down ultimately gave them a win are from a bygone era.
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palestra38
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Re: Harvard-Princeton Football
10-25-21 11:33 AM - Post#327371
In response to 84grad
Why is it that the only school in the Ivy League that ever asks opponents to forfeit wins to them is Harvard? Restic did the same thing in 1982. No one else in the universe calls on other schools to give up a victory.
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/sports/college s/pe...
"But in 1982 they won their second Ivy League championship, and first since 1959. They finished 7-3, 5-2 in the Ivies. They beat Harvard in the next-to-last game, 23-21, after they missed a late field goal but got a second chance when Harvard was controversially called for roughing the kicker. Harvard coach Joe Restic said he thought Penn should do the right thing and forfeit the win. Yeah, sure."
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84grad
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Re: Harvard-Princeton Football
10-25-21 11:39 AM - Post#327372
In response to palestra38
Relax, it's only an observation. The officials got it wrong, but it won't be corrected in the standings. The point is that the 1940 Cornell gesture was an impressive example of Ivy League athletics at its best.
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palestra38
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Re: Harvard-Princeton Football
10-25-21 11:44 AM - Post#327373
In response to 84grad
I'm just giving you grief. This was much worse than 1982 (the FG kicker was hit). This was one where they gave a review on an unreviewable play and the league should reverse the loss because if it were unreviewable,, then the game ended with the Harvard catch. But you can't ask Princeton to give it up.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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10-25-21 12:16 PM - Post#327375
In response to palestra38
It’s on the league to do the right thing.
A judgment call or a call where different views could differ is certainly stands.
A decision to wrongly continue a contest that - by rule - had been finally decided is similarly decided.
Harvard wins in 3OT.
Anything beyond that is null and void.
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84grad
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10-25-21 03:04 PM - Post#327377
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Erin McDermott, Harvard's AD, issues the anticipated statement indicating that Harvard has no recourse and that the result of the game cannot be changed after the game has ended.
Would have been a fascinating and positive college athletics story if there had been a change.
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Go Green
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Re: Harvard-Princeton Football
10-26-21 09:00 AM - Post#327380
In response to palestra38
Why is it that the only school in the Ivy League that ever asks opponents to forfeit wins to them is Harvard?
To be fair, while Carm Cozza never (to my knowledge) demanded that Harvard forfeit the 1968 game, he did spend the rest of his life outlining several mistakes that the referees made in the final two minutes of that game.
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