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Username Post: Latest Mid-Major Top 25        (Topic#19897)
BisonFan4 
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02-08-17 02:01 AM - Post#220952    

http://collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25 .ph...

 
Bison89 
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02-08-17 09:33 AM - Post#220962    
    In response to BisonFan4

Nice to be in the Top 20 (barely) at #20. Just keep winning and the Bison will move up in the poll.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
jkrun80 
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02-08-17 10:05 AM - Post#220969    
    In response to Bison89

Surprisingly, the women only drop 2 spots to #10 after two bad losses. Voters are really cutting us some slack. Hopefully, they turn things around tonight.

 
Bison137 
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02-08-17 10:34 AM - Post#220974    
    In response to jkrun80

  • jkrun80 Said:
Surprisingly, the women only drop 2 spots to #10 after two bad losses. Voters are really cutting us some slack. Hopefully, they turn things around tonight.



Hopefully most of the team is healthy tonight, for the first time in a week.




 
jkrun80 
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02-14-17 10:06 PM - Post#221839    
    In response to Bison137

Men drop to #23 this week. Women holding at #10.

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-2...

 
Paulie777 
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Reg: 11-11-07
02-15-17 09:49 PM - Post#221978    
    In response to jkrun80

Bucknell is going to close and win like Arazi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNZn919v6BU

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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02-24-17 03:09 PM - Post#223252    
    In response to Paulie777

This would be pretty cool, a 68 team mid-major tournament:


http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/2/24/14728044/...

The two patriot league teams that would make it would be Bucknell as a 5 seed playing LaSalle, and Lehigh a 10 seed playing Valpo. Bucknell could a victim of the 12-5 upset if this years game vs LaSalle is any indication. (Personally I don't really consider A-10 or Mountain West teams as mid-major)



 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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02-24-17 05:39 PM - Post#223302    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

It would be a dandy preseason tournament.

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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02-24-17 06:09 PM - Post#223309    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Definitely, like the old bracketbusters on steroids

 
Bison137 
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02-24-17 07:00 PM - Post#223314    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
This would be pretty cool, a 68 team mid-major tournament:

(Personally I don't really consider A-10 or Mountain West teams as mid-major)





Yes, the A10 and MWC are clearly not mid-majors. For that matter, neither is the MVC. And neither is Gonzaga. All of them spend at least 3x what is spent by the real mid-majors.




 
Bison137 
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04-06-17 02:56 PM - Post#228599    
    In response to Bison137

Not sure if this was ever posted. The Bison ended up at #16 in what I believe was the final mid-major poll. I don't regard the top two - Gonzaga and Wichita State - as mid-majors. (Wichita State will be gone from this poll next year when they join the AAC, leaving Gonzaga to unanimously win it every year.)

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-2...


They ranked 9th among the same mid-major pool in the final Pomeroy rankings. I think that is more accurate than the linked mid-major poll.




 
jkrun80 
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04-06-17 03:50 PM - Post#228606    
    In response to Bison137

Bucknell women finished ranked 6th. Quinnipiac, who made the Sweet 16 as a 12 seed was only ranked 4th.

http://www.collegeinsider.com/womens-mid-major-top...

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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04-06-17 04:53 PM - Post#228609    
    In response to jkrun80

Wow, I hadn't heard about Wichita State leaving the Missouri Valley Conference. That's terrible.


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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04-06-17 06:27 PM - Post#228614    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

I think that still has to be voted on but it's assumed that Wichita State will get the votes needed.

 
Bison137 
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04-06-17 06:47 PM - Post#228615    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
I think that still has to be voted on but it's assumed that Wichita State will get the votes needed.




Yes, the vote is tomorrow. They are expected to easily get the necessary votes.




 
res 
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04-06-17 07:18 PM - Post#228617    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
That's terrible.



Alas, it was inevitable.


 
Bison137 
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04-07-17 11:01 AM - Post#228625    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Wow, I hadn't heard about Wichita State leaving the Missouri Valley Conference. That's terrible.





The MVC has tumbled considerably from its peak from 2005 to 2010. With the departure of Creighton and now Wichita State, it will likely be just a strong mid-major conference going forward. But from 2005 to 2008, it was the 7th best conference in the nation (Pomeroy) four years running - behind only the P6 and sometimes very close to 6th.

Its peak may have been in 2006 - the year the Bison played at Northern Iowa in Bracketbusters. That year they had six teams in Pomeroy's top 51 and got four teams into the NCAA tournament:

25 Bradley
28 Wichita State
30 Northern Iowa
35 Missouri State
48 Southern Illinois
51 Creighton

Those six all won between 20 and 26 games.

Bradley and Missouri State unfortunately have fallen a lot from their strength in this era.




 
Bison137 
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04-07-17 12:58 PM - Post#228627    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
I think that still has to be voted on but it's assumed that Wichita State will get the votes needed.




Yes, the vote is tomorrow. They are expected to easily get the necessary votes.





Wichita State was approved unanimously today. They had been in the MVC for 72 years.




 
Bison89 
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04-07-17 05:00 PM - Post#228629    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:


Its peak may have been in 2006 - the year the Bison played at Northern Iowa in Bracketbusters. That year they had six teams in Pomeroy's top 51 and got four teams into the NCAA tournament



137, for me, that was one of the most disappointing losses in my 32 years of watching the Bison play. I cannot believe that you brought it up. I'll have nightmares later on.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
Raymond Bucknell 
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Reg: 11-14-11
04-11-17 06:48 PM - Post#228683    
    In response to Bison89

Bison check in at 11 in Mid-major Madness' (SB Nation Blog) "Way-too-early" '17-'18 Power Rankings

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/4/10/15237652/...

 
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