gokinsmen
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12-16-22 08:53 PM - Post#348202
Down 37-25 at the half.
They just look sloppy and flat. I was afraid of this after the Iona loss. They can come back, but it's clear they're not themselves.
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weinhauers_ghost
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Re: Delaware
12-16-22 09:15 PM - Post#348203
In response to gokinsmen
Your team is shooting as if this is their first time playing in Jadwin.
edit: clearly, I spoke too soon. I should know better by now.
Edited by weinhauers_ghost on 12-16-22 09:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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gokinsmen
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12-16-22 09:48 PM - Post#348205
In response to weinhauers_ghost
Looks like they're running out of gas.
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-16-22 09:56 PM - Post#348206
In response to gokinsmen
Endless unforced TOs at the worst times. What a terrible game. The guys just didn't come to play.
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-16-22 10:00 PM - Post#348207
In response to gokinsmen
Ugly loss tonight - this is the first time in forever where I've questioned the team's effort. They slopped the ball around, fell asleep on defense, and didn't even come out sharp for the 2nd half down 12.
Big step backwards with these back-to-back losses. Embarrassing stuff - they better not take Kean lightly. I'm only half-joking.
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weinhauers_ghost
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12-16-22 10:14 PM - Post#348208
In response to gokinsmen
Delaware is a pretty decent mid major team. They're not as big or as physical as a team like Iona, but they're skilled and they play hard. We beat them pretty convincingly in Philly over Thanksgiving weekend even though Nelson dropped 30 on us.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Delaware
12-16-22 10:18 PM - Post#348209
In response to gokinsmen
Tuned in late; surprised at the score.
Clearly a bad game overall based on the comments above, but the drive by Allocco (when he pushed off) was an especially poor play call off of a time out.
This game makes it easy for me not to buy tickets to Ivy Madness. Don't see how we can win.
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TigerFan
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12-16-22 10:46 PM - Post#348211
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Woeful outing until the end. Sloppy passing, poor shooting, missed rebounds, invisible defense. I will be charitable and chalk it up to 1) flatness after strong outing against Ioan, 2) today being Dean’s Day, final day for papers and projects to be handed in.( I know this because my son is there and he pulled an all nighter last night.)
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-16-22 11:30 PM - Post#348213
In response to TigerFan
Yeah, I hope it's just mental and physical fatigue because that was very discouraging going into Ivy play. They played like Mitch woke them up 5 minutes before tip-off.
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-17-22 12:30 AM - Post#348215
In response to gokinsmen
Welp, it looks like Mitch and Allocco agree tonight was a failure of attitude.
https://www.trentonian.com/2022/12/16/princeton- me...
“I think our guys got a little bit too big in that eight-game streak,” coach Mitch Henderson said. “We got a little bit of humble pie here... there’s a lot of blame going around right now.
“We weren’t ready to go,” Allocco said. “I’m supposed to be a leader and get us ready to go, but I haven’t held up my end of the deal.”
My excitement for Ivy play dipped considerably after the past two games. Feels like another also-ran season. We need a vocal leader to get players fired up.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Delaware
12-17-22 11:43 AM - Post#348223
In response to gokinsmen
My excitement for Ivy play dipped considerably after the past two games. Feels like another also-ran season.
Word.
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sparman
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Re: Delaware
12-17-22 01:15 PM - Post#348224
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Not to beat, or resurrect, a dead horse but IMO the fabulous ivy tournament is partly responsible for a casual attitude if they feel confident they will be top 4 regardless, plus there's no incentive to play for home court advantage this year.
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palestra38
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Re: Delaware
12-17-22 02:00 PM - Post#348226
In response to sparman
I disagree. That's purely a fan's thinking. These are competitors. They want to win every game--especially Ivy games. Princeton may or may not be good enough to win the league title this year but that has nothing to do with effort. They just had a bad game--happens to everyone.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Delaware
12-17-22 03:01 PM - Post#348227
In response to sparman
they feel confident they will be top 4 regardless, plus there's no incentive to play for home court
I can imagine Yale, Penn, Harvard and .....Cornell in the tournament.
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SRP
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12-18-22 05:10 AM - Post#348241
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
I didn’t watch this one but would warn against recency bias. There were a lot of positives in the Iona game, e.g. Kellman figuring out how to avoid clogging the lane, leading to numerous interior passes for good looks inside. Freshmen are going to mess up some, the perimeter scorers aren’t quite as prolific and consistent as last season, etc., but when the effort is there and they concentrat,e they play better defense than last season. This is a team whose good is very good but simply lacks consistency at this stage.
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ToothlessTiger
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12-18-22 10:39 AM - Post#348243
In response to SRP
Interesting that of Delaware's 76 points 4 players accounted for 74. Nelson, Jr. is very good and the other 3 scorers all had good nights. I got the impression watching the game that our kids believed they would win but it took them too long to step on the gas. By the time they realized they were in trouble it was too late. As an aside if Cornell plays the way they did in the first half at Syracuse they can and should best any Ivy team.
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1LotteryPick1969
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12-18-22 06:45 PM - Post#348248
In response to SRP
warn against recency bias.
Lately I've become more susceptible to recency bias.
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penn nation
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12-18-22 07:26 PM - Post#348249
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Go the other way.
Nonconformity is in.
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penn nation
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Re: Delaware
12-18-22 09:06 PM - Post#348252
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Did you see who Harvard lost to today? At home?
Not a great year for IL Basketball.
they feel confident they will be top 4 regardless, plus there's no incentive to play for home court
I can imagine Yale, Penn, Harvard and .....Cornell in the tournament.
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iogyhufi
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Re: Delaware
12-19-22 02:01 AM - Post#348255
In response to penn nation
Well, I'm not saying that this Harvard team has the same stuff as some of recent vintage, but the Crimson have established a recent patter of losing absolute howlers in the noncon but being perfectly fine come conference season.
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