ToothlessTiger
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03-23-24 11:31 AM - Post#366217
Brian's departure for W and M is big news on the Tiger board as well. Terrific player here and huge contributor as asst coach. Good luck to him. Tigers have played a number of CAA teams. What a natural match up that would be!
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james
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03-23-24 12:22 PM - Post#366224
In response to ToothlessTiger
what an odd move.
you gain some recruiting territory in dmv and the tidewater.
you gain nothing in the NIL era. well maybe the stupid financial aid policy netting is not an issue.
expectations are 0 there. so i guess he has time to build it.
thought he'd wait for something better in due time.
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mountainred
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03-23-24 12:29 PM - Post#366227
In response to james
As I said on the Cornell board, I never thought Earl was an Ithaca lifer, but W&M is an odd choice. He's a great coach and I wish well, but...
I guess this will make it better if and when he replaces Mitch.
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gokinsmen
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Brian Earl 03-23-24 12:32 PM - Post#366228
In response to ToothlessTiger
I hope he got a great deal at W&M (salary, support, etc.) because he deserves the best. But selfishly, I'm relieved we don't have to face him next year.
It always felt weird and less fun to see a Princeton legend, former assistant and Mitch BFF on the opposing sideline, competing for the same title/ILT. So I confess I don't mind seeing Brian take his impressive talents outside the Ivy.
I just hope Cornell isn't calling up Brett MacConnell right now, ha.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Brian Earl 03-23-24 12:55 PM - Post#366231
In response to gokinsmen
I agree, an odd move. Can't see it as just salary; perhaps he sees a change to guide a program to relevance.
I thought SJ had more upside potential at Fairfield, which of course did not work out. Similarly Scott at Denver, Brennan at American.
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mountainred
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Re: Brian Earl 03-23-24 12:56 PM - Post#366232
In response to gokinsmen
I just hope Cornell isn't calling up Brett MacConnell right now, ha.
Do you have his number so I can pass it on to Dr. Moore?
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whitakk
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03-23-24 03:41 PM - Post#366249
In response to mountainred
W&M basketball budget per last filing was $2.4M, Cornell $1.1M
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ToothlessTiger
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03-23-24 03:51 PM - Post#366250
In response to mountainred
bm10@princeton.edu
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james
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03-23-24 04:06 PM - Post#366251
In response to mountainred
williamsburg is fine, i guess.
i did an unofficial there once upon a time.
it's close to...richmond
really like brian earl and hate him leaving for this
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mountainred
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03-23-24 04:27 PM - Post#366253
In response to whitakk
well, that explains a lot, but man they have not gotten much bang for their buck over the years.
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Dial Lodge
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03-26-24 08:06 AM - Post#366473
In response to mountainred
Seems like a strange move.
Kind of like when Sydney went to Fairfield.
W and M is a very good school academically, but far from a powerhouse school and certainly not in a powerhouse conference. I wonder what tools he'll be given to be successful.
I do wish Brian well. He's a very good coach.
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sparman
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Brian Earl 03-26-24 09:59 AM - Post#366476
In response to Dial Lodge
I suspect it has to do with a combination of things - closer (less/easier travel) to fertile recruiting territory, easier recruiting sell, perceived greater opportunity for advancement (specifically, easier to create a strong record within the conference that might help with a next move), financial aspects. As a state employee, possibly some significantly better fringe benefits. And don't discount the personal living environment as Williamsburg is close to Newport News/Hampton Roads which has become a popular place to live especially if you like being on the water. Maybe Chris Mooney has convinced him of the appeal of the setting. Probably also some other reasons none of us will know.
I like the area to visit (family member graduated from CWM); although I would find the heavily colonial-focused atmosphere repetitive year-round, it might be ideal for others.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Brian Earl 03-26-24 10:52 AM - Post#366480
In response to sparman
I suspect it has to do with a combination of things - closer (less/easier travel) to fertile recruiting territory, easier recruiting sell, perceived greater opportunity for advancement (specifically, easier to create a strong record within the conference that might help with a next move), financial aspects. As a state employee, possibly some significantly better fringe benefits. And don't discount the personal living environment as Williamsburg is close to Newport News/Hampton Roads which has become a popular place to live especially if you like being on the water. Maybe Chris Mooney has convinced him of the appeal of the setting. Probably also some other reasons none of us will know.
I like the area to visit (family member graduated from CWM); although I would find the heavily colonial-focused atmosphere repetitive year-round, it might be ideal for others.
You neglected to mention Busch Gardens Amusement Park
But seriously, a much more salubrious climate than Ithaca, to quote Thomas Jefferson. The Chesapeake Bay is right there for sailing as you mention, and for landlubbers, nice golfing opportunities with a longer season. I don't know Coach Earl's recreational proclivities, but I personally love the area.
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ToothlessTiger
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03-26-24 11:03 AM - Post#366482
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
10 years ago I was in a Foursome with Brian in a fundraiser for Princeton hoops. He hit a wedge to one inch on a par three and promptly stated it was the best shot he ever hit. I recalled that shot in a Conversation With him in January. He laughed and said it is still his best shot. He also admitted he rarely plays golf. I shall always be able to say I was with him when he hit his finest career shot.
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sparman
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Re: Brian Earl 03-26-24 11:03 AM - Post#366483
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
You neglected to mention Busch Gardens Amusement Park
If you have been there, you will know why....
The golf courses are very nice.
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palestra38
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03-26-24 11:34 AM - Post#366486
In response to ToothlessTiger
I expected a better story when you lead with having a foursome with Brian Earl.
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penn nation
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03-26-24 11:38 AM - Post#366489
In response to palestra38
I expected a better story when you lead with having a foursome with Brian Earl.
lol!!!
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sparman
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03-26-24 12:50 PM - Post#366500
In response to Dial Lodge
Thinking a bit more, I wonder if this portends some conference affilation move.
https://richmond.com/sports/college/school s/univer...
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