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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-04-11 09:37 PM - Post#98788
Both teams should be sharp and well-rested for tomorrow. Either Davis or Mavraides MUST be hitting from outside. Other than that, if we can keep it close down to the wire, I'll take our defense, experience and X-Factor (Maddox) for the win. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4921 |
03-04-11 10:05 PM - Post#98805
Nervous but pretty confident here. I have a feeling that the Tigers figured out Wright toward the end of the last game without having to leave Harvard's perimeter shooters too much room. I also like our guys psychologically if the game is close--Harvard's best chance is to jump on us early and pile up a big lead. But we'll see. |
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Albert08 Masters Student Posts 574 |
03-04-11 10:35 PM - Post#98811
SJ has been playing Barrett, Bray and Hazel a bit more in recent games - tonight Barrett got 13 mins and Bray 17. I suspect this has been part of a deliberate strategy to have a longer bench for the Harvard game. With Maddox, Darrow, Bray and Barrett, the rotation is 9 players. Harvard basically plays with 6 - only Rivard off the bench. If the game stays close and both teams play tough defense, the longer rotation may help in the last 5 minutes, as fatigue takes its toll. We'll see. |
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Dial Lodge Sophomore Posts 170 |
03-04-11 10:41 PM - Post#98813
Turns out that Harvard pretty much played only six players tonight - tomorrow they might not be that well rested ... |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-04-11 10:43 PM - Post#98814
I agree with both of you guys. If we can avoid a big early deficit, I'll feel a lot better as the game wears on. And the bench could definitely be the difference maker. Bray, Barrett, Darrow, and Hazel have provided very good defense all season, but have mostly been major offensive liabilities. If a couple of them can also make buckets, then that would be HUGE. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-04-11 10:53 PM - Post#98815
Turns out that Harvard pretty much played only six players tonight - tomorrow they might not be that well rested ... Not very stressful game action, though. A lot of hot jump-shooting and Casey only played 22 minutes. |
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Albert08 Masters Student Posts 574 |
03-04-11 10:57 PM - Post#98817
Bray had a nice offensive game, 4-5 for 9 points and 4 offensive rebounds. Barrett hit a 3 and 2 FTs. He looks like he's getting more comfortable on the offensive end. Better late than never, though the atmosphere tomorrow may rattle him more than the Dartmouth crowd tonight. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
03-04-11 11:01 PM - Post#98819
No chance they shoot this way again tomorrow. Mix in the coaching x-factor and I will be loading up on a Princeton team getting points. |
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Albert08 Masters Student Posts 574 |
03-04-11 11:06 PM - Post#98820
Harvard's shooting percentage tonight was ridiculous: 60% from the field, almost 50% from 3, and 100% from the free throw line. I sure hope the Tigers can do something to bring those numbers down. |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-04-11 11:07 PM - Post#98821
Wow. That's some strong optimism coming from a Penn fan! I think it's going to be down to the wire. Hopefully we can pull it out! |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
03-04-11 11:17 PM - Post#98823
I just don't see any way they shoot as well tomorrow. Mix in Mav's poor shooting tonight, a limping Casey and the fact that your coach owns Amaker and I will be thoroughly surprised if you don't win tomorrow. As much as I dislike the Tigers, (and believe me, only the Mets come close when talking sports) I look forward to order being restored in this league. Amaker doesn't deserve it. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-04-11 11:50 PM - Post#98832
Casey was injured? I thought he was just being rested due to Harvard's unconscious 3-pt shooting. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
03-05-11 12:10 AM - Post#98840
Nope. Left the game limping at one point. The Penn announcers were quite surprised that he came back in later as he was noticeably still hurting. In all openness this info comes from my dad as I was at dinner and certainly wasn't rushing out when I saw Penn was down 20+, but that was the report. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 12:14 AM - Post#98841
Hmm, thanks for that tidbit. I guess if he came back it can't be serious, but still a potential tough break for Harvard. Harvard can afford a banged-up guard, but not an injured Wright or Casey. |
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Albert08 Masters Student Posts 574 |
03-05-11 01:35 PM - Post#98860
I had noticed in the last couples of box scores for Harvard that Casey was getting playing time in the low to mid 20s (minutes) and the other starters (Wright, McNally, Webster and Curry) were all playing more than 30. Maybe that has something to do with a lingering sore ankle. It's been a long season. |
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IvyBballFan Masters Student Posts 479 |
03-05-11 02:14 PM - Post#98864
Casey has been getting playing time in the low to mid 20s (minutes) and the other starters were all playing more than 30. Maybe that has something to do with a lingering sore ankle. It's been a long season. The truth is that Kyle Casey's season-long numbers are very similar to those from last year. Usually, frosh with a start like his take a pretty big jump the next year. You can't help but think that the plate in his foot is the culprit. Injuries like his are real and he is only human. |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 07:42 PM - Post#98894
YOUR EVENT IS ABOUT TO BEGIN |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 07:51 PM - Post#98895
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb8t3Lt8iJw |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 07:52 PM - Post#98896
Go Tigers! |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:00 PM - Post#98897
Radio feed dead. Announcers were just saying major problems with electrical wiring in the gym. |
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mmp629 Junior Posts 259 
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03-05-11 08:10 PM - Post#98899
I can't breathe. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:11 PM - Post#98900
Get to a computer ASAP! ESPN 3 feed is working well. Good start for both teams on offense at least. Hot shooting Mavraides is a great sign for us. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:17 PM - Post#98901
Neither team can miss right now. It's not bad defense either -- just near-perfect offense. |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 08:17 PM - Post#98902
Could these announcers be any more pro-Harvard? |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:18 PM - Post#98903
The offense is insane |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:20 PM - Post#98906
Well, they are the "upstarts" playing at home and there's the whole Amaker storyline. And Lin gave them a lot of exposure. AND for people who don't follow Ivy b-ball, the name Harvard is the main draw. |
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Colorado Tiger Sophomore Posts 182 |
03-05-11 08:23 PM - Post#98908
I seem to have lost the espn3 feed coming back from the under 12 media time out. Arghh! |
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Colorado Tiger Sophomore Posts 182 |
03-05-11 08:25 PM - Post#98909
Got it back! Whew! |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:26 PM - Post#98910
I like the way this game has started. Harvard can't miss. Tigers getting more inside. And Dan the man looking good so far |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 08:26 PM - Post#98911
The offense on both sides was crazy for the first 5 minutes or so, but seems to have cooled off. Mavraides is looking real nice from 3. Not liking Barrett so far. He looks less experienced out there, and he's fouling a lot more than the rest. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:26 PM - Post#98912
It got REALLY patchy for me, too. But now it's back. I have a bad DSL connection, too, so it should work for you now. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:30 PM - Post#98914
Maddox gets mugged, no call. Saunders breathes on Wright -- whistle. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001 
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03-05-11 08:34 PM - Post#98916
Harvard missing wide open threes they were nailing last night. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:37 PM - Post#98918
Picture suddenly looks like under water. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:37 PM - Post#98919
Just when you say that Rivard hits a DEEP trey with a hand and arm in his face. |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 08:37 PM - Post#98920
I kind of get the impression that Harvard is not going to be able to keep playing at this intensity/pace for 40 minutes, and Princeton probably will. The refs do seem to favor H a little bit, but I won't complain too much, yet. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:38 PM - Post#98921
Refs refuse to believe Saunders can defend in the post without fouling -- this has been happening all season, too. They just see this scrawny, quiet guy and assume. |
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Colorado Tiger Sophomore Posts 182 |
03-05-11 08:38 PM - Post#98923
Until this most recent TV timeout, I've had uninterrupted streaming with 5 bars for video quality . . . it's been HD quality. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:39 PM - Post#98924
hating these announcers |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:46 PM - Post#98928
Just so you know I'm being fair, it did indeed look like Hummer fouled Rivard. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 08:47 PM - Post#98929
Truly idiotic foul by Hummer on Rivard to end the half. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:47 PM - Post#98930
we must lead the nation in fouling three-point shooters. agghhhh! great first half though |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:49 PM - Post#98931
Good half by both teams. Great to see Barrett being an ace-in-the-hole. Phenomenal shooting by Mavraides. In the second half? 1) We to take care of the ball -- some silly, unforced TOs. 2) Refs need to stop giving Harvard a late whistle whenever they miss a shot in the paint. |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 08:49 PM - Post#98932
As they say, down by 1 is a great position to be in at halftime. Let's hope we can solve this fouling issue and get the offense under control a bit in the second half. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:50 PM - Post#98934
Truly idiotic foul by Hummer on Rivard to end the half. It's a funny bit of karma -- last time out, Rivard fouled Davis on a 3 with one second left in the first half. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:51 PM - Post#98935
Very happy with the results. Harvard is super-amped up and our backcourt has been awfully cold from the arc of late. All I wanted was to be within a couple baskets at the half and here we are. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 08:51 PM - Post#98936
The amazing thing about the foul was that he quite obviously made a conscious decision to reach out and slap down on him, instead of just running out and by him to distract the shot without fouling. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 08:53 PM - Post#98938
Davis took some really bad shots - he was the one responsible for most of the perimeter misses. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:53 PM - Post#98939
I can actually understand Hummer fouling, there. I'd rather have Rivard sink 3 FTs than hit a crowd-exploding 3 to end the half. And yes, I'm 90% sure that shot was going down otherwise. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:53 PM - Post#98940
Penn down 13 at half to Dartmouth Yale down 6 to Cornell Brown down 20 to Columbia wild night in the Ivies |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 08:55 PM - Post#98941
Davis is a shoot-first guard and Harvard's length is preventing him from getting good shots. Bray or Hazel needs to play more in the 2nd half -- that way, we at least get some D. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:56 PM - Post#98942
Mavraides got a little wild there with drives and passes out of bounds but how can you complain? 18 points! |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 08:59 PM - Post#98944
Rebounds 15-8 Tigers Tigers 50% FG Harvard 54.5% Tigers 4/7 from 3, Harvard 2/5 Free throws Princeton 4/4, Harvard 11/13 (Ouch!) |
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Albert08 Masters Student Posts 574 |
03-05-11 08:59 PM - Post#98945
The Princeton women knocked off Harvard 68-59 to win the Ivy championship outright. Good precedent to follow. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:01 PM - Post#98946
Hummer 3 TO Davis 2 TO Mavraides, Saunders, Maddox 1 TO |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:02 PM - Post#98947
No matter who wins, this has been a really exciting game so far...maybe it'll convince ESPN(3) to televise more Ivy matches in the future. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 09:10 PM - Post#98951
Man, did Casey just undress Maddox on consecutive possessions. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:10 PM - Post#98952
Harvard going on a run here...gotta answer soon. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21312 |
03-05-11 09:14 PM - Post#98955
Well the least they could do is get the spelling right on our Commander in Chief's first name. Embarrassing. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:16 PM - Post#98956
gotta hit the open 3s |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:16 PM - Post#98957
Oh man, we really coulda used either of those open 3s. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21312 |
03-05-11 09:17 PM - Post#98958
Unusually physical for a Princeton game, too. They are really fouling hard on Harvard drives to the hoop. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:21 PM - Post#98959
Lot of bunnies are barely rolling off the hoop. Could be worse, though. Hanging in there... |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:23 PM - Post#98961
Wright and Casey both with 3 fouls. Have to get one of them out of the game |
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Albert08 Masters Student Posts 574 |
03-05-11 09:24 PM - Post#98963
May be time to start complaining about the refs. We're getting some bad calls. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:24 PM - Post#98964
Not looking good...shots rolling off the rim and we're not getting the 50/50 calls. Gotta use defense to keep it close. Still a long way to go. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:31 PM - Post#98969
Casey with his 4th...see if that helps spur a run. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 09:31 PM - Post#98970
May be time to start complaining about the refs. We're getting some bad calls. Ah, Saturday night in the Ivies. So glad the League went out of their way to get the very best for this most important game. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:33 PM - Post#98971
All this talk about Casey, but Wright may be the difference. Hummer and Maddox really having trouble scoring in the post. The former gets blocked, the latter has trouble getting calls. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:33 PM - Post#98972
ok. now i'll join in with the complaints about the refs. we're getting bodied every time and no whistles |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:34 PM - Post#98973
We need some 3s...Mav? Davis? Darrow? |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:36 PM - Post#98975
maddox not getting it done tonight. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:36 PM - Post#98976
Great D keeping it in the realm of possibility, but we're missing 90% of the good-not-great shots that usually go down. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
03-05-11 09:37 PM - Post#98977
Sorry for the jinx guys. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:37 PM - Post#98978
We keep getting stops, but no buckets to answer. Frustrating. There's a lid on the hoop. Sheesh. Missing everything. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21312 |
03-05-11 09:38 PM - Post#98980
Well that was a bad no-call that went Princeton's way...a clear over the back on the offensive board that wasn't called. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:39 PM - Post#98981
Finally a 3...is it too late? |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 09:40 PM - Post#98982
Harvard's changed without Casey. Let's go Tigers! |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:42 PM - Post#98983
back in the game. how's your feeds? mine has sucked since halftime |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 09:42 PM - Post#98984
Big drive for the and-one by Curry after Princeton had cut the lead to 5. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:44 PM - Post#98985
The difference in this game is that Princeton is missing almost all of the shots they make half the time. While Harvard is making almost all of those 50/50 shots. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21312 |
03-05-11 09:44 PM - Post#98986
Looking back on it, that will probably go down as the play of the game. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:46 PM - Post#98987
Great D...the Tigers just can't get over the hump and make it a two-basket game. With Harvard's FT shooting, this game is in the books unless we get some Siena-like magic at the end. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:50 PM - Post#98990
What a play by Darrow...proud of the guys regardless of the result. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 09:52 PM - Post#98993
Be interested to see if the Harvard students are green enough to rush the court if they pull this out. That would be a pretty nice extra motivation boost for the Tigers going into Tuesday. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 09:54 PM - Post#98994
Terrible play by Davis. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:54 PM - Post#98995
TERRIBLE decision by Davis. We got a stop and needed a bucket -- no need to rush. UGH...that's the game. Gotta shoot a 3 or give it to Maddox. A 5-11 guard cannot go for a contested 2. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 09:55 PM - Post#98997
Davis dumb on consecutive possessions. |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 09:56 PM - Post#98998
Why did none of our baskets go in 2nd half? What happened to this team in the lockerroom? |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:56 PM - Post#98999
davis really hurt us tonight |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 09:56 PM - Post#99000
Harvard students with their High School Harry chants now. The Cameron Crazies they ain't. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 09:58 PM - Post#99001
Tough loss...Harvard played a great game and we still had a chance. Just too many missed layups. If we can refocus on Tuesday, I'm confident the playoff game would be ours. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 09:58 PM - Post#99002
need to win tuesday and make better decisions next time |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 10:00 PM - Post#99003
davis really hurt us tonight I can't blame him too much...except for that final minute possession. What he did makes no sense. I wouldn't mind him taking a quick-trigger 3, but a contested layup? He's not even a knock-down FT shooter! We make a 3 there and it's anyone game. Even a 2 keeps us in it. That miss ended all hope in a split second after a marvelous defensive stand. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 10:01 PM - Post#99005
So they rushed the court, and the ESPN3 announcers declared them Ivy League champs. Oh, wait ... |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 10:01 PM - Post#99006
Even after the game was effectively over and they had nothing to play for, the shots were all bricks. They can't get thrown this easily and expect to win games. Luckily they have a second and maybe third chance Tuesday and then hopefully Saturday. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 10:02 PM - Post#99007
Harvard was very good tonight. They were also very physical on those "missed layups." My feed was too crappy to tell if they were fouling every time but Maddox usually lives at the line and that didn't happen tonight. Afraid I called that on this board last week. |
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beginer2007 Freshman Posts 6 |
03-05-11 10:03 PM - Post#99008
Yea, Princeton needs to use that as bulletin board material, talk about premature celebration. Give kudos to Tommy Amaker though, he knew that the season ain't over and just shook hands and walked out. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
03-05-11 10:04 PM - Post#99010
So they rushed the court, and the ESPN3 announcers declared them Ivy League champs. Oh, wait ... They are Ivy Champs...Going to the tourney is another story. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 10:04 PM - Post#99011
So they rushed the court, and the ESPN3 announcers declared them Ivy League champs. Oh, wait ... Technically they are Ivy co-champs no matter what. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 10:05 PM - Post#99013
need to win tuesday and make better decisions next time Tuesday is really the key -- the fact is, the calls were 90% Harvard in the first half and Maddox missed several layups he usually makes. And STILL, we had a shot until Davis's gaffe. Credit Harvard -- they made a super-tough shot whenever Princeton threatened to make a run. Those guys are borderline bubble-team worthy, playing at their house, and we only brought our B-game. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 10:07 PM - Post#99014
To be fair, even if Davis had hit a 3 instead making that horrible decision, there, I think Harvard's FT shooting would almost certainly give them the win anyway -- the score would just look nicer. |
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umbrellaman Masters Student Posts 476 
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03-05-11 10:08 PM - Post#99015
Chip, you know that they are indeed Ivy League champions. It's only a matter of whether they share it or not. Could be worse, it's not like they cut the nets down in an empty gym. As usual, the road to the tournament will have to go through the Palestra. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 10:11 PM - Post#99017
I know, I know ... the presentation by ESPN3 made it sound as if the outright title had been decided, which is what I was making fun of. Did they cut the nets down? |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21312 |
03-05-11 10:17 PM - Post#99018
Although at the tail end the announcer did clarify that it was merely a tie for the title, and then he went into the Tuesday scenario and potential playoff. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4921 |
03-05-11 10:23 PM - Post#99019
Well, I had a one-bar picture in the second half--the players looked like characters in a 1980s arcade game and the ball was hard to see. So I'm not going to complain about calls I couldn't make out. Davis did not have a very good game on either end of the floor (one nice steal though). Wright seemed to be causing problems for the Tigers as a defender--their inside attack was off. This is the kind of game where the "old-school" Princeton offense, with more motion and spacing and hard back cuts would have been handy. I disagree with gokinsmen, though--our biggest problem was on defense. Curry penetrated at will and picked us apart. Casey got a ton of good looks and made them. They shot over 50% in the first half, which is way out of character for our defense. We didn't seem to get very many stops in a row at any point of the game. The only good news was solid rebounding. Here's an idea--when in man defense keep the ball out of Curry's hands. Make somebody else try to make a contested pass to him. He might get a couple of backdoors but it could throw their offense off. I generally like that kind of "decapitation" strategy against a team that has a dangerous distributor, but coaches don't seem to. Maybe they know something that I don't. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 10:24 PM - Post#99020
The one announcer was a total homer. Every time Harvard did anything he gave us his Gus Johnson impersonation. Really tough to take. |
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Tiger86 Sophomore Posts 173 |
03-05-11 10:28 PM - Post#99021
I was also suffering from the one bar photo (but it won't stop from complaining about the refs). Maddox usually defends against the opposing team's best player. Seemed like we had Hummer on Casey much of the game instead of Maddox. Was I missing something? |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-05-11 10:32 PM - Post#99022
SRP, it's a pick-your-poison offense (and so are we). I'd rather make Curry thread passes inside to Wright than let Casey or Rivard take over. We just have to tip our cap to the Crimson tonight -- those guys are very good. So are we. And we split a two-game series. No biggie. |
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umbrellaman Masters Student Posts 476
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03-05-11 11:09 PM - Post#99029
Dunno, Chip. My feed was cutting in and out after the Davis gaffe. Spiking my laptop probably didn't help. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-05-11 11:11 PM - Post#99030
Pat, how are you going to watch Tuesday's game with a spiked laptop? |
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cornellfan4 Masters Student Posts 543 |
03-05-11 11:20 PM - Post#99032
So they rushed the court, and the ESPN3 announcers declared them Ivy League champs. Oh, wait ... Technically they are Ivy co-champs no matter what. http://stfu.wikispot.org/Rules_for_Storming_th e_Fl... Doesnt mean much without the NCAA bid, they really tempted the basketball gods by storming, clearly a violation of storming the court rules |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 11:25 PM - Post#99035
-Your team breaks a long losing streak against a particularly difficult opponent. Does a 5-game losing streak to Princeton count? |
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cornellfan4 Masters Student Posts 543 |
03-05-11 11:26 PM - Post#99036
-Your team breaks a long losing streak against a particularly difficult opponent. Does a 5-game losing streak to Princeton count? http://twitter.com/stfhoops/status/44225 5068366274... I ain't down wit this one. Didn't clinch anything. RT @TheHoopsReport: Harvard fans rushed the court. I guess not the expert made a ruling |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-05-11 11:28 PM - Post#99037
Ah. That's funny seeing as he goes onto say:
Clinching an Ivy championship is sufficient grounds. He should amend the site to read "Clinching the Ivy NCAA berth is sufficient grounds." |
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cornellfan4 Masters Student Posts 543 |
03-05-11 11:34 PM - Post#99039
I think it used to just say "The Ivy League? I don't think so." but I think he changed it after Cornell won 2 years ago and added the Cornell Addendum after the stat sheet guy's computer was destroyed in the court storming: "The Winn Embargo: If at all possible, try not to step on the poor schlubs on press row. We know it's tempting, but they're just trying to do their jobs. This goes for clock operators too (The Cornell Addendum) Those guys take court storming rules very seriously |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-06-11 12:07 AM - Post#99042
I don't really care about this kind of thing. It was a huge, exciting, ESPN-"televised" win against someone they've lost to five times in a row. And it clinches a share of the title -- which means a guaranteed NIT if nothing else. They should be thrilled. On the other hand, I did NOT appreciate that dude from UCF running down the lane and dunking the ball -- up four with two seconds left and nobody around him. That was just a juvenile move to run up the score. Of course, UCF later got karmically-served when they had that inexplicably horrific losing streak soon afterward. |
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umbrellaman Masters Student Posts 476
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03-06-11 12:43 AM - Post#99044
Not to worry, Chip. I was exaggerating a bit. Obviously, I'm hoping for a Princeton win, but I do think it would be fitting for these teams to faceoff on a neutral court - could be another game at the Palestra! |
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umbrellaman Masters Student Posts 476
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03-06-11 12:48 AM - Post#99045
With regards to storming the court, I'd agree with gokinsmen - this is a historic win for them. We can't say they should act like they've been there before, because they haven't. |
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cornellfan4 Masters Student Posts 543 |
03-06-11 12:54 AM - Post#99046
Cant wait for the playoff, hopefully it gets on espn3 at the minimum |
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cornellfan4 Masters Student Posts 543 |
03-06-11 01:20 AM - Post#99047
I dont really have a problem with it either, just think those court storming rules are funny It is not nearly as much of a court storming violation as UNC storming for beating Duke, those rules are right, UNC, Duke, KU, UK etc should never storm, national champs or nothing |
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cornellfan4 Masters Student Posts 543 |
03-06-11 01:24 AM - Post#99048
I don't really care about this kind of thing. It was a huge, exciting, ESPN-"televised" win against someone they've lost to five times in a row. And it clinches a share of the title -- which means a guaranteed NIT if nothing else. They should be thrilled. On the other hand, I did NOT appreciate that dude from UCF running down the lane and dunking the ball -- up four with two seconds left and nobody around him. That was just a juvenile move to run up the score. Of course, UCF later got karmically-served when they had that inexplicably horrific losing streak soon afterward. UCF has had an epic collapse, as bad as Villanova, probably worse since Nova will still get in the tourney |
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puband09 Masters Student Posts 782 |
03-06-11 02:43 AM - Post#99056
Cant wait for the playoff, hopefully it gets on espn3 at the minimum I just hope there is one. |
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dperry Postdoc Posts 2215
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03-06-11 03:08 AM - Post#99057
Technically they are Ivy co-champs no matter what. Technically, schmenically. I don't care what the League thinks; you don't win the playoff, you're not the champions.
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2281 
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03-06-11 10:48 AM - Post#99063
Curry penetrated at will and picked us apart. Casey got a ton of good looks and made them. Here's an idea--when in man defense keep the ball out of Curry's hands. Make somebody else try to make a contested pass to him. He might get a couple of backdoors but it could throw their offense off. I had a lousy feed also, but I fully agree that Curry was the difference. At Princeton he was visibly nervous, and had a bad game. This time he was fluid and showed good judgment. Sadly, he has two more years 
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cornellfan4 Masters Student Posts 543 |
03-08-11 01:15 AM - Post#99415
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6191433 PTI debated today about Johnson's decision to make PU watch Harvard storming the court |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-08-11 03:15 AM - Post#99422
More nice national exposure! They seem to be very high on SJ and his motivational gambit. Wilbon: "I don't like it...I LOVE it." "I know and like Tommy Amaker, but my money's on Princeton." Kornheiser: "A masterstroke." That said, I'm not sure they know that Princeton needs to beat Penn first... |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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03-08-11 09:41 AM - Post#99432
Kornheiser's is a Penn parent, so I'm sure he knows this. (Think his kid has graduated, though, hasn't he?) |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
03-08-11 10:51 AM - Post#99445
Kornheiser starts off the clip by saying something like "could be a playoff." He never makes explicit mention of Penn/Princeton, but if that didn't exist, there'd be no "could" so it's clear that they know about it but are assuming that away. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4921 |
03-08-11 05:16 PM - Post#99536
It's Penn. No unhatched chicken-counting allowed. This IS a playoff game tonight. |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3686 |
03-08-11 05:34 PM - Post#99543
Good points. Must have missed that. |
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