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Cotton Mather
Pre-Frosh
Posts 2
03-08-11 02:16 AM - Post#99418    

Hi all. New to the board, and I thought it would be good to come out swinging.

I thought the game was fantastic Saturday night, the only negative being what I perceived to be some dirty play and fan taunting by some of the Princeton team. Rather than complain, I thought it best to have some fun with it.

So...here are a few things classier than Princeton...(all in good fun, of course)...

Tree murderer Harvey Alborn Updyke

Jersey Shore Ronnie

Pontiac Fieros

Bernie Madoff

"Sexy" Big Bird Halloween Costumes

K-Fed (we can still call him that, right?)

Roofies

What did I leave out?


LinLover
Pre-Frosh
Posts 1
03-08-11 02:22 AM - Post#99419    

Great subject, Cotton. I'm not sure what the memory requirements are on this server, but I'm pretty sure we won't be able to list the 300,000 or so items that would qualify in this group. But we can start:

Tila Tequila

a pitcher of $5 Red Dog from the Grille

Sheen's goddesses

Massasoit Community College

Pete Carrill's corpse (too soon?)


gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 3683
03-08-11 02:56 AM - Post#99420    

Hmm.
cornellfan4
Masters Student
Posts 543
03-08-11 09:41 AM - Post#99431    

Are you two the same person?
Chip Bayers
Professor
Posts 7001
Chip Bayers
03-08-11 09:48 AM - Post#99433    

Does Princeton these days do the ersatz NBA shtick that only the most classless college teams pull: playing bad canned music before each half at home games, while its real, live band sits there looking stupid with its thumbs up their butts? Because I know I've seen that at Lavietes.

Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts 3782
03-08-11 10:23 AM - Post#99439    

Pathetic. For the entire season Harvard has virtually no fans on this board, despite probably having the best team in the school's history. The only notable exceptions are Mike James and some guy who likes to accuse people of 'borderline racism.' Finally, a couple come scuttling out from under the bathroom sink to talk some trash. And they couldn't even manage to be amusing.

So what's classier than Princeton? Certainly not Harvard.
mrjames
Professor
Posts 6062
03-08-11 11:05 AM - Post#99450    

To be fair, I know a lot of folks that would post on these boards, but they sorta see this place as a bunch of Penn fans and don't bother.

I've been saying this for years and it's why Jake ultimately divided the boards by teams - it's not the most inviting environment for non-Penn fans.

That's not to say it's right or wrong, just sort of a fact of these boards.

Also, as a side note, I understand none of what's been said in this thread. It might be an inside joke or something.
Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 4008
03-08-11 11:57 AM - Post#99464    

This board IS a bunch of Penn fans, but we can still have fun at their expense.
Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts 3782
03-08-11 12:16 PM - Post#99471    

Penn fans, yes. But you have to admit, we're pretty lovable in a curmudgeonly sort of way.

As for Mike's 'nobody goes there because it's a bunch of Penn fans' excuse, I have no sympathy for that. In fact, I'd expect way more from students and graduates of America's most prestigious institution of higher learning. Where's the resolve? Where's that famous Crimson 'can-do' spirit? Don't you guys remember what Shaw wrote about the unreasonable man? Don't you remember the stirring speech that one of those idi0t Winklevi makes about 'men of Harvard' in The Social Network? All my hopes for the future of this great nation (not to mention the world) lie with you Harvard guys. Please don't disappoint me.
Tiger86
Sophomore
Posts 173
03-08-11 03:22 PM - Post#99510    

pathetic. is this what passes for clever at harvard?
H78
PhD Student
Posts 1458
H78
03-08-11 05:19 PM - Post#99540    

  • Silver Maple Said:
Pathetic. For the entire season Harvard has virtually no fans on this board, despite probably having the best team in the school's history. The only notable exceptions are Mike James and some guy who likes to accuse people of 'borderline racism.' Finally, a couple come scuttling out from under the bathroom sink to talk some trash. And they couldn't even manage to be amusing.

So what's classier than Princeton? Certainly not Harvard.



Re: The first 2 posts on this string:

A. Someone's pranking (H. Lampoon style?)

B. If they're not, it shows remarkably bad taste, Ivy Leaguer or not.

These posts are probably from the same person, as cornellfan2011 notes. I think they were written just to get a rise out of people, which they clearly have.

Re: The quoted post

You're right about the first 2 posters crawling out but I think they came from beneath a more malodorous bathroom fixture than a sink.

You're also right about there being a dearth of Harvard fans on this board. I believe it's because this board's postings are predominantly non-Harvard alums, apparently from other Ivy schools, who (in all fairness) like to go after the Harvard folks. I found myself being accused of recruiting violations based on an innocent contact with one verbal commit, and I now hide in the corner when I go to high school basketball games, for fear that I may be accused, as someone has said, being the second coming of Jim Harrick.

Curmodgeonly is one thing, immature and in poor taste (like the first two postings in this thread) is even worse. And, neither is becoming to a posting on these boards. How about a little live & let live?

I'm venturing back onto this Board after telling Mike that I was going to walk away, because perhaps a bit of positive energy and enthusiasm is what we all need, no matter to which school we went, or to which board we post.

Whoever makes it to the NCAA's (and I hope it's both H&P, whatever the outcomes this week) should be supported by all Ivy grads, because it's the right thing to do, and the smart thing as well, as a rising tide will lift all our ships. I was a huge fan last March of the Cornell team and their foray into the Sweet 16.

Here's to Harvard and Princeton and here's to the institution of Ivy League Basketball!

P.S. It would have been great if no one had responded to these first two postings. That would have made quite a statement as to their irrelevance to the subject and today's game. They would have been perceived as (forgive me Dartmouth alums) "voices crying out in the wilderness".
cornellfan4
Masters Student
Posts 543
03-08-11 05:53 PM - Post#99544    

The original poster might not even be a Harvard fan, just someone trying to be a stereotypical Harvard person and make Harvard look bad

Dont let the posters on here scare you away, the board could use some more non Penn fans

gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 3683
03-08-11 05:58 PM - Post#99547    

I don't mind "bandwagoners" (everyone's gotta join sometime) or even some trash-talking. It just was aggressively unfunny in this case and awkward for everyone involved.

Does seem like a troll, though. Or possibly drunk-posting.
H78
PhD Student
Posts 1458
H78
03-08-11 07:03 PM - Post#99557    

  • gokinsmen Said:
Does seem like a troll, though. Or possibly drunk-posting.



I agree.

Also, I watched the game, and I think the statement was overblown about "fan taunting by some of the Princeton team".

I don't mind a little interplay between players and the crowd. Particularly since these players have to get up the next morning, finish problem sets, write papers, and study for upcoming midterms (without team-assigned tutors like at some of the "high major" schools).
cornellfan4
Masters Student
Posts 543
03-08-11 07:11 PM - Post#99560    

What can be wrong with players taunting the fans, it can only hurt the player by them getting distracted or trying to show off
Cotton Mather
Pre-Frosh
Posts 2
03-08-11 08:16 PM - Post#99570    

  • H78 Said:


Re: The first 2 posts on this string:

A. Someone's pranking (H. Lampoon style?)

B. If they're not, it shows remarkably bad taste, Ivy Leaguer or not.

These posts are probably from the same person, as cornellfan2011 notes. I think they were written just to get a rise out of people, which they clearly have.

Re: The quoted post

You're right about the first 2 posters crawling out but I think they came from beneath a more malodorous bathroom fixture than a sink.




Lighten up, Francis.

It was a joke, in good fun. Like a lot of message boards.

I don't need to produce my bona fides but I have been a Harvard athletic supporter for about 20 years, financially for about 13.

And I have been watching this year, last year, the year before, the Frank Sullivan years (Dave Demian in the house!).

Part of rivalries is poking fun at others. Doesn't sound like this board is much into that, so I'll kindly walk away and go back to discussing the game and the season with the group of fans and alumni I keep in touch with.

No harm, no foul. Just trying to have some fun. You guys aren't into that. Lesson learned.

For tonight. Let's go Quakers.

P.S. I am not LinLover and don't know the story there. I think any half decent board tech could run an IP search and confirm that pretty quickly.

H78
PhD Student
Posts 1458
H78
03-08-11 10:35 PM - Post#99688    

  • Cotton Mather Said:
  • H78 Said:


Re: The first 2 posts on this string:

A. Someone's pranking (H. Lampoon style?)

B. If they're not, it shows remarkably bad taste, Ivy Leaguer or not.

These posts are probably from the same person, as cornellfan2011 notes. I think they were written just to get a rise out of people, which they clearly have.

Re: The quoted post

You're right about the first 2 posters crawling out but I think they came from beneath a more malodorous bathroom fixture than a sink.




Lighten up, Francis.

It was a joke, in good fun. Like a lot of message boards.

I don't need to produce my bona fides but I have been a Harvard athletic supporter for about 20 years, financially for about 13.

And I have been watching this year, last year, the year before, the Frank Sullivan years (Dave Demian in the house!).

Part of rivalries is poking fun at others. Doesn't sound like this board is much into that, so I'll kindly walk away and go back to discussing the game and the season with the group of fans and alumni I keep in touch with.

No harm, no foul. Just trying to have some fun. You guys aren't into that. Lesson learned.

For tonight. Let's go Quakers.

P.S. I am not LinLover and don't know the story there. I think any half decent board tech could run an IP search and confirm that pretty quickly.




Cotton,

My impression is that your idea of "fun" and "humor" consists of name calling ("Francis") and insults to a well-regarded institution like Princeton (see your post). While I can't speak for others on the board, to quote your own words, I'm "not into that".

It's ironic you're saying you'll "kindly walk away" because you walked in hurling insults and calling names. Had you entered by "discussing the game and the season", as you now propose to do with others, I think you would have been received differently here.

The folks on these boards do lots of back-and-forth jibing, and most can take a joke, but when they do it, it's generally about the game, the players, the coaches and the league. Not hurling undeserved insults (come on, Bernie Madoff?). I may want the Harvard team to kick Princeton's a**, but I respect the hell out of that school, and the other Ivies, and I think you should too, particularly if you graduated from Harvard 20+ years ago, because you know the value of an Ivy League education and how hard it is to achieve.
Tiger86
Sophomore
Posts 173
03-08-11 10:54 PM - Post#99692    

I do think its big of Cotton to admit that he's an "athletic supporter" though.
H78
PhD Student
Posts 1458
H78
03-08-11 10:56 PM - Post#99693    

  • Tiger86 Said:
I do think its big of Cotton to admit that he's an "athletic supporter" though.



LMAO......a "Cotton" one, no less...
mrjames
Professor
Posts 6062
03-09-11 10:25 AM - Post#99748    

I actually liked it when Mavraides was giving it to the Harvard student section. Anything that adds drama and intrigue to Ivy basketball games, I'm all for.
penn62
PhD Student
Posts 1053
03-09-11 09:29 PM - Post#99965    

What our troubled world needs now are more athletic supporters. What a guy!
Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts 3782
03-09-11 10:37 PM - Post#99980    

The guy's clueless. He thinks his sin was to 'poke fun' at Princeton. He obviously doesn't realize that his actual sin was that he wasn't funny.

Strange that a Man Of Harvard would be so out of touch.
Tiger86
Sophomore
Posts 173
03-09-11 11:23 PM - Post#99987    

Perhaps not so strange in the context of a college basketball board. The guy is clearly lost.
TheLine
Professor
Posts 5597
03-10-11 09:56 AM - Post#100009    

  • mrjames Said:
To be fair, I know a lot of folks that would post on these boards, but they sorta see this place as a bunch of Penn fans and don't bother.




I disagree. Princeton and Columbia have thriving boards and you don't see either of those boards intimidated by Penn interlopers.

The problem lies with the Harvard board itself, which is a stars-and-scrubs assortment and is in desperate need of retooling its lineup. mrjames has an off-the-chart PAR (Posts Above Replacement) and guys like dzheng and H78 more than hold their own despite low workrates, but then you have too high a percentage of well-below replacement level posters like Cotton and LinLover. The low workrate itself isn't the problem - the Brown and Cornell boards are low workrate but maintain high PAR nevertheless.

I think if Harvard could get higher workrate out of dzheng and H78, then ditch the below replacement posters for a couple of higher PAR contributors, all would be well.

H78
PhD Student
Posts 1458
H78
03-10-11 05:35 PM - Post#100128    

  • TheLine Said:
I think if Harvard could get higher workrate out of dzheng and H78, then ditch the below replacement posters for a couple of higher PAR contributors, all would be well.




Good point. Though it's late in the season, I'll work harder on my timing and verbal jump shots so I can get in more quality looks and higher PPG.
H78
PhD Student
Posts 1458
H78
03-12-11 08:07 PM - Post#100474    

Thought I'd help put an end to this thread.

After today's game, I'd say that there is very little that's classier than the Princeton basketball team. Go get 'em in the NCAA's, guys.
Tiger86
Sophomore
Posts 173
03-13-11 01:38 AM - Post#100537    

Classy post H78. Kudos to Harvard for an excellent team and an impressive showing from your fans today. Loud, passionate, even occasionally clever.

But you can't beat TigerBlood! (And don't ever rush the court for clinching a tie again)

You deserve a bid to the tournament.
Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2819
03-13-11 08:04 AM - Post#100553    

A really great effort by Harvard, as I posted elsewhere. I really do hope that they get a bid to the Dance. They certainly deserve it. They had us on the ropes for 15 minutes of the 2nd half. Then fatigue, pressure, and the effects of 4 fouls on their two most important interior players set in.
I'm just relieved (and grateful!) that Tommy Amaker, for all the talent he recruits, doesn't seem to know how to use it.

PS Often overlooked Princeton asset: Free throw defense



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