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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 
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09-30-16 10:57 PM - Post#211084
28 Seconds of Muscala Assists
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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09-30-16 11:00 PM - Post#211085
Video of the Muscala Q&A at the Friends of Bison Basketball Dinner a couple of weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTP9sUwi1Jk
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-06-16 06:57 PM - Post#211239
Hawks first preseason game is tonight at Memphis. Millsap, Splitter, and Scott are all sitting this one out, so Mike should see a lot of minutes. This will be a great opportunity to show he belongs on the roster. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-06-16 10:19 PM - Post#211252
Mike had 5 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 assists in 18 minutes in a starting role. Kris Humphries, who is one of Mike's competitors for a spot, had a similar game. Center Walt Tavares, a 7-3 center from Cape Verde who was a 2014 2nd round pick, had a big game, 7-8 from the floor along with 8 rebounds and a block in 15 minutes. Tavares played a little bit for the Hawks last year but spent most of his time in the D-League. Barring any injuries, Mike may have to beat out either Humphries, Tavares, or Mike Scott for a spot.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-11-16 10:38 PM - Post#211442
Mike has had two good games over the past few days, both as a starter. Last night he had 10 points (4-6 FG), 3 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 block, and 1 steal in 24 minutes against the Cavaliers backup squad. And on Saturday, he had 9 points (4-8 FG), 5 rebounds, 4 assists, and 1 steal in 23 minutes vs the Spurs' regulars. Mike was matched mostly against LaMarcus Aldridge, which is obviously a very tough matchup. As for his roster prospects, Scott played a mediocre 11 minutes last night, based on stats, and Humphries was a DNP-Coaches Decision. Tavares had pretty good stats in 12 minutes. And Tiago Splitter has a hamstring injury that will keep him out the first month, meaning that no-one has to be cut until mid-November.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-12-16 09:14 AM - Post#211447
I wonder if Mike is playing for a roster spot or a spot in the rotation? Tavares has an enormous upside and is a true 5. Mike improved ball handling and 3 point skills seem to be positioning him as a genuine 4. Not to imply Mike can't play the 5 but with Howard and Tavares, he isn't going to be getting minutes there. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-12-16 11:03 AM - Post#211458
Also don't forget Splitter at center, once he returns from his injury. He likely will play ahead of Tavares as the first center off the bench - unless Tavares really impresses during his absence. Agree on Mike being more of a four, which leaves him competing with Scott and Humphries for the backup job behind Millsap. That makes seven big men - but it's unlikely they will carry more than six on a roster of 15. That's particularly true given that their first round draft choice, Taurean Prince, is 6-8 and could play the four in certain circumstances.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-12-16 08:29 PM - Post#211468
The Hawks need to trade someone for a draft pick to get the roster down to 15. Splitter or Taveres would have been options until this injury. Now it's more likely Mike, Scott, or Humphries will have to go. There's also an outside chance they could dump Tim Hardaway given he hasn't fared any better in Atlanta than he did in NY. It will be interesting to see how things play out. I would love to see Mike stay in Atlanta, but have to think other teams would be interested if they let him go. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-13-16 01:11 PM - Post#211502
If they give him his flat out release and Mike gets signed somewhere else (almost immediate offers I'm sure) does that mean he'll get paid sooner too? May not be bad for him to change scenario. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
10-14-16 01:11 PM - Post#211527
The Hawks need to trade someone for a draft pick to get the roster down to 15. Splitter or Taveres would have been options until this injury. Now it's more likely Mike, Scott, or Humphries will have to go. There's also an outside chance they could dump Tim Hardaway given he hasn't fared any better in Atlanta than he did in NY. It will be interesting to see how things play out. I would love to see Mike stay in Atlanta, but have to think other teams would be interested if they let him go. I disagree strongly about Tim Hardaway. The Atlanta coaching staff really seems to like him. While it took a while for him to start getting impact minutes and learn their system, by the end of the season and the playoffs he was a significant contributor off of the bench.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-14-16 03:37 PM - Post#211536
I agree it's unlikely they'll get rid of Hardaway. He played well at the end of last season but has done poorly so far this pre-season. That's the main reason for the speculation about trading him to meet the roster limit. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-14-16 06:27 PM - Post#211543
Peach Tree Hoops has had several articles recently on Hardaway's future. Here is one from a couple of days ago: http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/10/10/13222070/...
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800 
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10-16-16 08:27 PM - Post#211572
Mike started tonight against Magic.. 17 minutes. 9 points, 3-4 with 1-1 on threes and 2-2 on FTs. 6 RB, 1 assist, 2 fouls....+12 |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-16-16 09:55 PM - Post#211579
Mike started tonight against Magic.. 17 minutes. 9 points, 3-4 with 1-1 on threes and 2-2 on FTs. 6 RB, 1 assist, 2 fouls....+12 Also of note is that Humphries and Scott both played the same number of minutes as Mike, and both played poorly.
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BisonKid Sophomore Posts 154 |
10-17-16 12:30 PM - Post#211592
I had a chance to watch the game last night. Mike played great. Very aggressive, great ball movement, although at times a bit over-matched on the boards. Humphries, on the other hand, looks very slow and over-weight. Not sure how the contracts will play into the decision process, but my view is that Mike is the better player with more upside plus he's younger and cheaper than Humphries. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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10-18-16 09:04 PM - Post#211630
Peachtree Hoops from earlier today: "Muscala has seen a lot of work so far having logged minutes at power forward during Millsap’s absence and logging time at center in games when Howard has been rested. This volume of minutes could be related to Atlanta’s brass getting a good long look at the only returning player without a guaranteed contract heading into the season, or featuring him for the purpose of driving potential interest in the trade market, or both. He has played very well, going an impressive 13 of 23 on field goal attempts, while also delivering a very impressive assist ratio of 22.0% thus far (would have led all Hawks bigs last season). Maybe most importantly, Muscala has demonstrated excellent chemistry with Howard. Muscala’s advanced defensive and rebounding metrics trail only the Hawks centers (Howard and Tavares) and Millsap (just one game of action) in the rotation; this combined with his offensive productivity seem to be driving the team toward what would be an extremely tough waiver decision or an increasingly optimistic trade outlook depending upon which way they decide is best to go." http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/10/18/13311676/... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-18-16 09:19 PM - Post#211633
Mike has played 12 minutes off the bench so far tonight, more than any of the other subs. He's 2-5 with 4 reb. Scott and Tavares have not played so far. Hawks lead the Pelicans by 20. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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10-18-16 10:21 PM - Post#211635
That was his final line in a 7 pt win. He had 2 A;s and a block, too. +5 |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-20-16 07:47 PM - Post#211748
This dramatically improves Mike's odds of keeping his roster spot. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/10/20/13352914/... |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-21-16 10:18 AM - Post#211778
I am really beginning to question if Atlanta is the best spot for him? |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-21-16 10:44 AM - Post#211786
Of course, if he can see consistent minutes, then it's a great audition for either the Hawks or his first lucrative contract. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
10-21-16 12:58 PM - Post#211807
From Peachtree Hoops article titles preseason winners and loser in the winner column "Mike Muscala When training camp opened, Mike Muscala looked like he could have been on his way out. However, it became clear at the team’s media day that he was in better shape in terms of his roster spot than it appeared. Still Muscala backed up his play on the court and looks like he will enter the regular season with his first real chance for consistent playing time. Muscala opened the preseason in the starting lineup in place of Paul Millsap and performed well averaging 7.2 points, 4.3 rebounds and 2.7 assists while shooting 56 percent from the field."
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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10-21-16 05:30 PM - Post#211825
And More http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/10/21/13357212/... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-27-16 08:12 PM - Post#212031
Moose getting lot's of minutes on opening night. 2 FTs and 1 reb in the 1st Q. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-27-16 09:59 PM - Post#212033
Good game, good minutes. He obviously begins the season as part of the rotation. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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10-27-16 10:03 PM - Post#212034
MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB 25 3-6 1-2 2-2 1 3 4 AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS 1 2 3 0 2 +2 9 Final Stats in a 15 pt win |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
10-27-16 10:04 PM - Post#212035
Nine points, 3 blocks, 4 boards, 2 steals and an assist in 26 minutes is pretty strong.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-27-16 10:36 PM - Post#212036
Mike saw action as both the backup PF and the backup center. Humphries only played a few minutes - and none in the second half until the final couple minutes of garbage time. Tavares and Scott didn't play at all.
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 
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10-28-16 08:45 PM - Post#212078
Although what the heck is up with his hair. Did he lose a bet? |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-28-16 09:26 PM - Post#212079
Although what the heck is up with his hair. Did he lose a bet? Man bun. It's a thing. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757 
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10-29-16 01:06 PM - Post#212090
Yeah watching him play against Philly now and he's doing a good job, but I'm not digging the man bun hair style. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 
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10-29-16 01:58 PM - Post#212093
#BoycottTheBun |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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10-29-16 02:14 PM - Post#212094
At first glance I thought he was sporting a Ed Grimly costume for Halloween...boycotting the bun😠That aside, he's playing really well and glad to see he's part of the rotation. But the NBA itself is hard to watch at times...so many terrible shot choices and often selfish play. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
10-29-16 03:05 PM - Post#212099
Through two games he is averaging 11.5 pts, 4.5 boards, 2.5 block, 1.5 asst and 1.5 steals. And he enjoyed watching the last 6 minutes of garbage time from the bench. Got a Bucknell reference on the post game interview.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-29-16 04:10 PM - Post#212105
I walk back my comments about it Atlanta not being a good spot for him. If he keeps getting these minutes, it's more than enough time for him to demonstrate his value. He looks quicker to me this year but they may be an optical illusion. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-29-16 04:32 PM - Post#212111
Through two games he is averaging 11.5 pts, 4.5 boards, 2.5 block, 1.5 asst and 1.5 steals. . One other key stat is that Mike has zero turnovers thus far in 48 minutes. Turnovers were a bit of a problem for him the last two years, so this is a good sign. Also had no turnovers in his final five preseason games.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 
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10-30-16 08:25 AM - Post#212156
7 for 8 shooting should lead to more PT. In today'a NBA, 11.5 point/game probably means about $8-$10 million per year which is just CRAZY!
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-30-16 04:33 PM - Post#212173
Chaching |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
10-30-16 05:36 PM - Post#212174
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/10/30/13470184/... Nice article on Muscala's start including clips.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-31-16 07:12 PM - Post#212209
More shake-ups with Atlanta's front court. Looks like Mike's roster spot is safe for a while. I hope is able to re-sign with the Hawks. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/10/31/13478854/... http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/10/31/13479318/... |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-31-16 09:22 PM - Post#212214
Mike Muscala - Is the Hawks' big man making the jump?
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
10-31-16 10:29 PM - Post#212215
Another double figure night for Mike with 10 pts and three boards.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-02-16 10:26 PM - Post#212371
Moved to different thread
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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11-02-16 10:35 PM - Post#212372
7 points, five boards, 3 assists and (first of the year) a turnover in a loss to LA tonight |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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11-05-16 09:33 AM - Post#212552
Atlanta lost to Washington by 3 last night. In 22 minutes, Mike had 10 points, 7 rebounds and was +19. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-05-16 11:10 PM - Post#212572
Another good night for Mike, playing 21 minutes in a win over Houston. He scored 6 points (2-3 shooting) along with 3 boards, 1 block, and 1 steal. Also of note is that Humphries was a DNP-Coach's Decision. Entering the game, Mike was leading the NBA in shooting pct. He is 19-23 on twos and 3-8 on threes, including tonight's games. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-08-16 11:28 PM - Post#212743
The Hawks took down the Cavs on the road tonight. Mike had 10 points in 22 minutes. Better yet, he threw down a rebound dunk over Lebron. https://mobile.twitter.com/NBA/status/7961642939 09...
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-09-16 01:02 AM - Post#212745
Mike's dunk was one of the lead stories on Fox Sports: http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/mike-muscal a-pa... Note that Lebron was actually guarding Mike on the play - but not very closely.
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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11-09-16 01:26 AM - Post#212746
And the man-bun cushioned his head!!! |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-11-16 03:51 PM - Post#212993
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/11/11/13597604/... 1). Atlanta Hawks Power Forward/Center Mike Muscala is better than I gave him credit for. In 20 minutes a night he’s averaging 9.5 points and just over four rebounds a night. And he does stuff like this too. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-15-16 07:20 PM - Post#213280
Another update on Mike's progress this season: http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/11/15/13559070/... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-15-16 10:13 PM - Post#213283
Stuffing the stat sheet again tonight. 8 pts on 4-5 shooting, 4 reb, 1 steal, 1 ast. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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11-15-16 10:49 PM - Post#213286
Mike having an awesome game tonite...14 points, 4 assists, 5 boards....on 6-7 shooting. He's the best player tonite for the Hawks |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-16-16 12:02 AM - Post#213291
Mike having an awesome game tonite...14 points, 4 assists, 5 boards....on 6-7 shooting. He's the best player tonite for the Hawks Mike ended up with those stats, plus a steal, in 22 minutes. Hawks edged the Heat on the road. Hawks are now 8-2 for the year.
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
11-16-16 01:16 PM - Post#213320
Mike having an awesome game tonite...14 points, 4 assists, 5 boards....on 6-7 shooting. He's the best player tonite for the Hawks Mike ended up with those stats, plus a steal, in 22 minutes. Hawks edged the Heat on the road. Hawks are now 8-2 for the year. Ended up with those stats because he got pulled because he couldn't guard Hassan Whiteside. Millsap came in at 6-7 to take on the Miami big who had 25 boards many on the offensive glass where he was dominant. While he had a great offensive night, his defense was not all that spectacular. Best player on the court for Atlanta is probably a stretch.
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Raymond Bucknell Sophomore Posts 179 
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11-16-16 02:51 PM - Post#213325
FWIW, while Whiteside owned the glass, he was only 6-15 from the field. I watched the game and thought Mike acquitted himself pretty well on the defensive end. |
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Raymond Bucknell Sophomore Posts 179
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11-16-16 10:23 PM - Post#213354
From the Twitter Machine: "Mike Muscala is one of seven players facing at least five shots per game at the rim and holding opponents to sub-40% shooting there." |
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S2YB Freshman Posts 63 |
11-17-16 01:11 AM - Post#213368
With Dwight Howard out tonight for the Hawks it seems as if Moose got the start. 33 minutes 16 points 6-11 from the floor 1-3 from 3, 5 boards, 3 assists, and a block. 107-100 win for the Hawks |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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11-17-16 09:09 AM - Post#213372
He did start!!!! http://www.espn.com/nba/recap?gameId=4008 99613 |
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SteelCity Junior Posts 261 
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11-17-16 02:29 PM - Post#213389
What a great start to the season for Mike. He's definitely showing that he is a solid rotation player, and earning himself a big contract next year. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-17-16 04:48 PM - Post#213406
Mike continues to lead the NBA in FG pct, hitting almost 64% of his shots. He also ranks 44th (of 325) in Player Efficiency Ranking (PER), which measures each player's value statistically. In addition to his great FG shooting, he has a very high assist rate for a big man, and a good rate of offensive rebounding. https://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statist ics
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-17-16 05:41 PM - Post#213411
Muscala highlights from the win over the Heat: https://twitter.com/ATLHawks/status/79891 026819341...
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-19-16 01:37 AM - Post#213515
Mike had 11 points in 25 minutes tonight in a close road loss at Charlotte. Hit 2-3 on twos and 2-5 on threes. Also had 5 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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11-19-16 11:06 AM - Post#213520
Another good effort by Mike. Missed a couple of threes later in the game that could've tied the game but he still shot better than his teammates from three. Not sure if Mike was guarding him at times or not, but Cody Zeller shot 9-10 to lead Charlotte. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-24-16 12:05 AM - Post#214027
Mike scored 13 in 26 minutes tonight in a road win at Indiana. Hit 4-7 from the field, including 2-2 on threes. Also had 4 rebounds and an assist. Mike was the only sub used at both the four and the five, as Humphries never got off the bench.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-29-16 12:02 AM - Post#214293
Forgot to mention that Mike had a nice game on the road vs the Lakers yesterday. Played 25 minutes, netting 10 points, 5 rebounds, and 2 blocks. Hit 2-3 on threes and 2-4 on twos.
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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12-03-16 09:44 PM - Post#214820
Mike starting tonight for injured Milsap against Toronto. 14 minutes and 7 points in first half. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
12-04-16 07:57 AM - Post#214829
Hawks are REALLY struggling as of late. Getting blown out a lot. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-05-16 09:58 PM - Post#214933
Mike with 9 pts in 15 min in the 1st half vs. OKC. Has not missed 2-2 FG, 1-1 3FG, 4-4 FT. Only downside is 3 PF. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-09-16 11:27 PM - Post#215355
Interesting NBA shot analysis. Mike is above-average from all six shooting areas. https://mobile.twitter.com/KLChouinard/status/80 73...
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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12-10-16 12:21 AM - Post#215363
Another very good night against the Bucks. 20 min, 11 points, 4 assists, 3 rebs. Shot 4-6 including 3-3 from three. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-16-16 03:27 PM - Post#216054
Lengthy article on Mike just posted on NBA.com: Mucala's Breakout Season No Surprise to Teammates
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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12-16-16 04:54 PM - Post#216063
Great article on Mike. Some nice praise from his teammates and coach as well. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
12-19-16 09:32 AM - Post#216163
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-19-16 02:39 PM - Post#216214
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Husky, I have been saying this for a while. Mike is going to get a VERY nice bump in salary when his contract expires. I do not know if it will be with Atlanta, but there are many teams that need a mobile, young 4-5. GO, MIKE!
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-21-16 10:07 PM - Post#216393
Mike leads the Hawks in scoring tonight vs. MN with 16 on 6-6 shooting, 3-3 3FG, including 11 in the first 7 min of the 3rd Q. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-24-16 01:07 PM - Post#216583
Nice section in this article on Mike's performance this season w/ some interesting stats. Can't imagine Atlanta will not re-sign him. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2016/12/24/14074442/... |
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BisonKid Sophomore Posts 154 |
12-28-16 05:18 PM - Post#216769
Anyone have an idea on the size and term of deal that Mike should expect? I'm thinking 4-5 years at $3-4 per year. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
12-28-16 05:55 PM - Post#216792
That might work but I think he'll command a bit more. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-28-16 09:50 PM - Post#216879
That might work but I think he'll command a bit more. If Mike can sustain his current level of play, I think he will command far more than that, closer to 3 years for $24 million total. I looked at comparable PFs and smaller centers aged 24-29 who signed new contracts in the offseason. They are listed below, along with their contracts and selected stats for the year immediately prior to signing the contract. (Mike's stats are for this year - since this is the year just prior to his new contract.) Name.../... Contract.../.Height,Age/MPG/PPG/RPG/AP G/PER./Win Shares Mike Muscala/ . . ? . ? . . /6-11,25/21.4/8.3/3.8/1.7/15.4//3-4 (est) Miles Plumlee/4 yrs, $52M/6-11,28/14.3/5.1/3.8/0.3/17.4/2.2 Jon Leuer/4 yrs, $42M/6-10,27/18.7/8.5/5.6/1.1/16.2/2.7 Meyers Leonard/4 yrs, $41M/7-0,24/21.9/8.4/5.1/1.5/11.3/2.2 Dwight Powell/4 yrs, $37M/6-11,25/21.3/7.6/4.8/0.9/16.8/3.1 Andrew Nicholson/4 yrs, $26M/6-9,27/14.7/6.7/3.6/0.4/14.8/0.6 Darrell Arthur/3 yrs, $23M/6-9,28/21.7/7.4/4.2/1.4/12.5/2.3 Cole Aldrich/3yrs, $22M/6-11,28/13.3/5.5/0.8/21.3/3.5 Tyler Zeller/2 yrs, $16M/7-0,26/11.8/6.5/3.0/0.5/15.4/1.7 Tarik Black/2 yrs, $12.5/6-9,25/12.9/3.6/4.0/0.4/12.3/0.7 Notes: PER is a metric that tries to incorporate every statistical category into one overall stat. Win shares attempts to measure how many wins each player is responsible for. - - - - Looking purely at the stats, Mike is clearly better than Nicholson, Arthur, Zeller, and Black. He is not far behind the others, with rebounding being the only issue. However Mike is a better shooter than any on the list - which should narrow the gap. Defense is an issue compared to some, but not all. Opinions?
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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12-29-16 12:42 AM - Post#216896
I think if Mike was given consistent minutes and shots he would be a 10 ppg 5 rpg 2 apg guy. But his minutes have not been overly consistent. For the year he may be averaging 21 minutes, but it seems he's more in the 12-16 mpg lately. But he should def be in the range of a neighborhood of $5-8 million per year over 3-4 years. Not a bad living indeed. |
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SteelCity Junior Posts 261
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12-29-16 02:52 PM - Post#216949
NBA contracts are insane. I bet he's in the 8-10M range if he keeps shooting the way he has been. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-29-16 05:19 PM - Post#216968
137, I agree. With the NBA cap going up, 3 years/$24 million total seems to be in the ball park. Go, Mike!
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-05-17 11:44 PM - Post#217435
Nice game for Mike tonight in a road win at New Orleans. He had nine points, six rebounds, one steal, and one block in 20 minutes.
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SteelCity Junior Posts 261
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01-06-17 11:53 AM - Post#217458
Hawks are trading Korver to Cleveland for Mo Williams, Mike Dunleavy and a protected 2019 first-round pick. Millsap could be on the move too since he's a free agent, so that could mean some more minutes for Mike down the road. They seem to be heading more in a rebuilding direction now then any serious run at contending. |
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01-06-17 12:25 PM - Post#217461
Bucknell is taking a fan bus to watch his game on Wednesday, March 29 so by then Moose could be getting around 30 minutes per game maybe. |
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Doktore K Masters Student Posts 473 |
01-06-17 06:55 PM - Post#217510
Speaking of former PL stars, did anyone else catch the Portland vs. Golden State game on late night TV this week? CJ McCollum lit up the Warriors with 26 points (I think) in the first half alone! Finished with 35. He was matched up with Steph Curry. The Blazers are playing without Damian Lillard so CJ has to shoot much more than in prior games. And speaking of getting paid.... I think that CJ is in the first year of a $90M contract which runs for four years. Someone can check those numbers but it's in the ballpark. Yes, CJ would look very good in a SIXERS uniform. One can certainly hope for that! |
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01-06-17 07:25 PM - Post#217511
Speaking of former PL stars, did anyone else catch the Portland vs. Golden State game on late night TV this week? CJ McCollum lit up the Warriors with 26 points (I think) in the first half alone! Finished with 35. He was matched up with Steph Curry. The Blazers are playing without Damian Lillard so CJ has to shoot much more than in prior games. And speaking of getting paid.... I think that CJ is in the first year of a $90M contract which runs for four years. Someone can check those numbers but it's in the ballpark. Yes, CJ would look very good in a SIXERS uniform. One can certainly hope for that! CJ this year is in the final year of his rookie contract that "only" pays him $3.2 million for the year. But he has already signed a new contract that kicks in next year - four years for a total of $106 million. So he will be 30 before he is a free agent.
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Doktore K Masters Student Posts 473 |
01-06-17 07:45 PM - Post#217513
The Sixers have both Okafor and Noel with FOR SALE signs hanging on them.... Would trade them both for CJ! |
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01-07-17 06:34 PM - Post#217561
The Sixers have both Okafor and Noel with FOR SALE signs hanging on them.... Would trade them both for CJ! I would do that trade in a heartbeat!
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-12-17 10:29 PM - Post#218135
Interesting discussion of Mike's future with the Hawks - starts at around 25:00. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/1/12/14247864/a... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-15-17 05:11 PM - Post#218429
Mike sprained his ankle early in today's game with the Bucks. Hopefully, it's not too bad. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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01-15-17 06:18 PM - Post#218435
https://www.youtube.com/embed/kwcwb19Lcog Link calls it a knee injury but looks to be below knee. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-17-17 09:12 PM - Post#218605
Looks like Mike will miss another game. Hope it's not too serious. He's having a great season. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/1/17/14303424/m... |
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01-22-17 11:39 AM - Post#219066
Muscala is still out with an ankle injury: http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nba/2172/mike- musc...
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-27-17 09:48 PM - Post#219678
Mike is finally back from his ankle injury. Makes a 3 on his second shot. But then blows a layup the next possession. Hawks are playing poorly overall and getting killed by the Wizards. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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01-28-17 12:29 PM - Post#219715
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-29-17 07:20 PM - Post#219838
Hawks in their 3rd OT with the Knicks. Mike is playing for Howard who fouled out. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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01-29-17 07:56 PM - Post#219840
Hawks win in 4 Mike was 1-3, 8 RB and 2 Assists in 22 minutes. Played most of last 2 OTs |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-29-17 08:32 PM - Post#219846
Mike didn't score in OT, but had some key rebounds. Looked like it might go to a 5th OT, but the Knicks missed two 3 pt attempts on their last possession. Hawks could have put it away more than once but missed FTs. This was only the 12th 4OT game in NBA history. There has been only one 5OT game. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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01-29-17 09:09 PM - Post#219855
Remembering Griffin's shot in 3OT vs Navy!!!! |
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Raymond Bucknell Sophomore Posts 179
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01-29-17 10:52 PM - Post#219866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_LsezqOS-w "In case you didn't hear me: BINGO!" |
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01-30-17 08:51 AM - Post#219872
I love the comment, "It took us like 4 hours to figure out what he was saying."
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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02-02-17 11:35 PM - Post#220189
Nice game tonight in win at Houston. 20 Minutes, 9 Pts, 8 RBs and 2 blocks |
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02-02-17 11:46 PM - Post#220193
There are at least 3 Bucknellians in Houston tonight. Guess who?
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-02-17 11:59 PM - Post#220194
There are at least 3 Bucknellians in Houston tonight. Guess who? Did you go to the Hawks game?
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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02-03-17 07:37 AM - Post#220200
There are at least 3 Bucknellians in Houston tonight. Guess who? Did you go to the Hawks game? No, I had to work at NRG Stadium until 8pm yesterday.
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02-03-17 10:37 AM - Post#220214
No, I had to work at NRG Stadium until 8pm yesterday. I hope you got those end zones looking sharp. |
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02-03-17 03:49 PM - Post#220270
No, I had to work at NRG Stadium until 8pm yesterday. I hope you got those end zones looking sharp. The stadium looks great. BTW, the Philadelphia Bucknell Club is hosting a Hawks vs. Sixers game outing in March 29 with an opportunity to meet Muscala after the game. Details: The Bucknell Club of Philadelphia invites you to join us as the 76ers take on the Atlanta Hawks! 76ers vs Hawks Wednesday, March 29 7 p.m. Tip-Off After the game, join us for the meet and greet with Bucknell's own Mike Muscala '13!
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
02-23-17 04:08 PM - Post#223137
Not that it wasn't obvious he had beaten out Scott on the depth chart, but Atlanta trade Mike Scott to Phoenix for "cash considerations" They also acquired Ilyasova as a "stretch four" from Philadelphia, which might negatively impact Mike.
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
02-25-17 10:30 PM - Post#223655
Well not a good sign for Mike tonight 3 minutes in mop up duty in a blowout loss. |
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02-25-17 10:39 PM - Post#223659
Ilyasova is a pretty good player who may take all the PF backup minutes.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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02-26-17 12:22 AM - Post#223682
Also not a good sign that they felt they had to go out and find a player. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-01-17 10:17 PM - Post#224213
Appears Mike is on his way to becoming trade bait. He'll be a valuable commodity to someone. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-29-17 08:09 PM - Post#228322
Mike is getting a little more playing time with Millsap injured. Hasn't scored many points though. Hope they got a decent turnout of Bucknell folks for the Hawks game in Philly tonight. I was in Philly last week for a conference - bad timing on my part. |
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03-29-17 09:49 PM - Post#228323
Hawks got a win at Philly. Mike played 15 minutes. Didn't take a shot but had 4 rebounds, 1 assist, and 2 steals.
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nitlion Masters Student Posts 413 |
03-30-17 12:50 PM - Post#228339
We had a fan bus at the game and it was a neat trip. Courtside for pregame warm ups, Club Box seats, and Mike came up and had a meet and greet, signing autographs. I want to mention how the guy took the time, I am not sure how many players would go the extra step, he is special. Enoch Andoh was with him, works for the 76rers, also Corey Starkey and Hwy wrestler Jos Stolfi made an appearance, Bucknell athletes are young men/women we should be very proud of, we recruit the cream of the crop. Pat Flannery was doing some serious hand shaking on the court prior to the game, he has big basketball footprint. |
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03-30-17 08:27 PM - Post#228369
It is a shame that Mike sat for so long and lately, when given minutes, hasn't produced like he had earlier in the season. Hope he still gets a decent contract in the offseason. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
04-02-17 08:51 AM - Post#228440
Little bit of a scoring uptick: 3 of 4 from the field 3 of 3 from the line for 9 points.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-02-17 10:48 AM - Post#228446
Hawks blew a 10 point lead in the 4th, but Mike had his best game in a while. The Hawks’ bench was key to the big run in the third and fourth quarters to get them back into the game. Mike Muscala shot 3-for-3 from deep and finished a team-high +14 in 18 minutes on the floor. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-02-17 08:54 PM - Post#228461
7 pts, 3 reb today in 11 minutes. The rest of the team stunk in a pathetic loss to the lowly Nets. Hawks are bumbling their way out of the playoffs down the stretch. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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04-04-17 06:56 AM - Post#228505
Looks like the Magic have an interest in Muscala this summer... https://twitter.com/pistonsviews/status/8 491082871... Someone is fired in Orlando for that picture 
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-06-17 05:45 PM - Post#228612
Mike in Memphis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1lImmLk9yM Hawks have a tough one tonight w/ Boston at home. Celts coming off a blowout loss to the Cavs last night. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-07-17 08:34 PM - Post#228631
Hawks are resting most of their starters @ CLE. Still up 2 somehow at the half. Mike has 6 pts, 3 ast, 3 reb, 1 stl in 10 minutes. |
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04-07-17 08:51 PM - Post#228632
Early in the third quarter, the Hawks' "starters" have +/- ratings of -6, -13, -15, -16, and -16. The five reserves, including Mike, are all in the plus column.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-07-17 09:15 PM - Post#228633
Hawks still up 5 going into the 4th. Unbelievable. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-07-17 09:34 PM - Post#228634
Mike jams to put the Hawks up 14. |
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04-07-17 09:52 PM - Post#228635
Hawks beat the Cavs 114-100. MIke with 13 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and a steal in 23 minutes. Hit 5-7 on twos and 1-1 on threes.
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04-07-17 11:03 PM - Post#228636
Wow...great stat line for Mike. Yeah, not sure how the Cavs lost this game. All ten players who played for Atl got at least 20 min. |
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04-08-17 10:56 AM - Post#228640
Hawks beat the Cavs 114-100. MIke with 13 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and a steal in 23 minutes. Hit 5-7 on twos and 1-1 on threes. In today's NBA, if he can consistently have similar stats, he can probably sign a $7-9 million per year contract for 3-4 years. (I am guessing at this.) BTW, a little $$$ back to Bucknell for Muscala Court at Sojka Pavilion would be nice.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-08-17 04:12 PM - Post#228643
Early in the third quarter, the Hawks' "starters" have +/- ratings of -6, -13, -15, -16, and -16. The five reserves, including Mike, are all in the plus column. Atlanta bench ended up between +14 and +29. Mike was +27. The passing and shot selection were a thing of beauty. They may be bench players, but they're in the NBA for a reason. Cavs didn't take them seriously until it was too late. |
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04-08-17 08:07 PM - Post#228644
Aaron Roussell and son were there to see it. https://twitter.com/CoachRous/status/8508 007935738...
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04-08-17 09:18 PM - Post#228645
Hawks beat the Cavs 114-100. MIke with 13 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and a steal in 23 minutes. Hit 5-7 on twos and 1-1 on threes. In today's NBA, if he can consistently have similar stats, he can probably sign a $7-9 million per year contract for 3-4 years. (I am guessing at this.) BTW, a little $$$ back to Bucknell for Muscala Court at Sojka Pavilion would be nice. Unfortunately, Mike has failed to produce numbers anywhere close to these on a consistent basis. Still, he should receive contract offers. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-09-17 06:08 PM - Post#228650
Hawks are at it again! Came back from 26 down to force OT with CLE, including a late 3 by Mike that cut it to 4. Letting it slip away in OT unfortunately. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-09-17 06:21 PM - Post#228651
Mike puts the Hawks up 1 under a minute to play. Hawks hang on to win by 1. What a game! |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-09-17 06:48 PM - Post#228652
Mike's final stat line - 5/6 FG, 2/2 3FG, 5 reb, 4 ast, 1 blk. |
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04-09-17 07:26 PM - Post#228653
Mike was +16 today. Howard and Prince both -2 for the Hawks. Lebron was +2. As mentioned above, Mike hit a 3 with 50 seconds left to draw the Hawks close, and then he assisted on Millsap's shot at the buzzer that sent it to OT. Hawks outscored the Cavs by 44-18 in the final quarter to tie it! During the final few minutes of OT, he blocked a shot by Kevin Love, got a rebound, assisted on a Millsap basket, and then hit a crucial three with 35 seconds left to give the Hawks a one-point lead that they never relinquished. Mike played the entire OT, and he played 25 minutes in total.
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04-09-17 07:48 PM - Post#228655
https://mobile.twitter.com/LeadingSports_/status /8... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-09-17 08:38 PM - Post#228656
Mike diving to the floor to get the ball to Millsap for the tying basket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMsj0uAUwD4 |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
04-10-17 02:01 PM - Post#228665
He's on the court in critical times and making critical buckets. That three ball from the corner is a CLUTCH shot. |
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04-10-17 04:38 PM - Post#228667
Happy for Mike that he's getting important minutes and that he's making something positive happen while out there. |
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04-11-17 09:13 PM - Post#228690
Mike 2-2 in the first half tonight, helping the Hawks to a big lead with a +17 during his court time. ESPN is featuring a video clip of Mike dunking over Kaminsky. Should have been a 3-point play. http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=1913757 7
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04-11-17 09:40 PM - Post#228692
Oh definitely was fouled. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
04-11-17 10:10 PM - Post#228693
Mike is blowing up. Huge play in important minutes. |
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04-11-17 10:27 PM - Post#228694
Ended up with 8 points in 18 minutes tonight in an easy win. Shot 4-4, with 1 rebound and 3 assists. Also had a team-leading +26.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-16-17 05:39 PM - Post#228755
Mike had 8 pts in Game 1 vs. Washington. Bit of an off day 2-5 FG, but 4-4 FTs. Had an untimely turnover late with the Hawks down 7. CJ McCollum has 34 pts through 3Q vs. the Warriors. |
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MyOhMighty Freshman Posts 16 |
04-29-17 10:03 AM - Post#228983
Nice write-up from a Nets blog https://nothinbutnets.com/2017/04/27/mike-musca la-... |
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05-08-17 04:37 PM - Post#229146
Peachtree Hoops: Mike Muscala - Season in Review
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
05-11-17 07:14 PM - Post#229242
Season highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBtkw2gPmdY They missed a few - especially some nice blocks and his assist to Millsap that won the OT Cleveland game. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
05-12-17 12:06 PM - Post#229270
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/5/12/15622526/r... As thorough of an article you will find on Muscala and why the Hawks should resign him. |
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05-12-17 01:03 PM - Post#229275
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/5/12/15622526/r... As thorough of an article you will find on Muscala and why the Hawks should resign him. Wow, the guy who wrote this makes a very strong argument for the Hawks to resign Muscala. I said it before, but HE WOULD LOOK GREAT IN A SIXERS' UNIFORM!
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
05-12-17 03:34 PM - Post#229282
Great article. I hope the Hawks see it that way. He's a great fit for their system and has done well there. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
05-13-17 08:09 AM - Post#229290
Mike could do well anywhere. The Hawks will have to pay to keep him. Silly question. At what point do players stop improving? I'm talking about the relationship between age and declining skills versus getting better and improving their craft. 28? 30? Most guys are out of the League by the time they would "hit their primes". |
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05-13-17 09:21 AM - Post#229291
Husky, that is a good question. You rarely hear of players drastically improving or becoming an All Star after 4-5 years in the Association. So, if 21 is the average age of a rookie, then, 25-26 is probably the age in question. BTW, this is just a guess.
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05-13-17 02:15 PM - Post#229294
Husky, that is a good question. You rarely hear of players drastically improving or becoming an All Star after 4-5 years in the Association. So, if 21 is the average age of a rookie, then, 25-26 is probably the age in question. BTW, this is just a guess. Your guess is a good one. There have been various studies, including two I link below. They generally show an NBA player's peak is at age 25 or 26. Some of course peak later, including a number of superstars. One factor, other than age itself, is likely wear and tear on the body. NBA players can play as many as 110 games a year, including playoffs, and the constant running and physical style of play - plus the constant travel - has to gradually destroy a player's body. Add in the inevitable injuries, and a player's peak is likely dependent on more than just age. In this regard, Mike can be viewed as a young 25. His minutes have been limited and thus far he has avoided serious injury. He should have more left in the tank than many NBA players. For example, Mike has played about 2800 NBA minutes. CJ McCollum, who was in the same draft class, has played about 7800 minutes. The Bucks' Giannis Antetokounmpo, who was also in the same draft class, has played almost 10,600 minutes. Although I can't prove it, I would guess that PF's and Centers, who don't rely on speed and explosive moves, may have more longevity than guards and wings. That might weigh in Mike's favor as well. http://wagesofwins.com/nba-players-age-like- milk/ http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=...
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
05-13-17 06:00 PM - Post#229296
Mike's other advantage is having played 4 years in college and only 3 full seasons in the NBA. The one-and-dones who come into the league at 19 would already have 7 seasons of NBA wear and tear by the time they reach 26. I also have read that front court players generally have longer careers (due to fewer injuries) than back court players. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
05-13-17 10:35 PM - Post#229299
I have heard that bigs take longer to mature. Interestingly Paul Milsap is one of those guys who peaked late |
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05-13-17 11:49 PM - Post#229300
I have heard that bigs take longer to mature. Interestingly Paul Milsap is one of those guys who peaked late Good point. While it's extremely unlikely that MM will ever reach the level of Millsap, there are similarities in their background. Both are PF's - although MM is a few inches taller. Neither played for a power-conference school. (Millsap is from Louisiana Tech). And Millsap was the 47th player taken in the draft - three spots later than MM. Millsap played 18-20 mpg off the bench his first two years - averaging 7-8 ppg - before becoming a solid starter his third year. He turned into a star in his 5th season, at age 25, and has been one ever since. He is one of the more consistent players in the game - steadily averaging about 17 ppg and about 8 rpg for each of the last seven years.
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vic42 Freshman Posts 68 |
05-25-17 10:40 AM - Post#229644
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/194479 12/josh-m... McRoberts gets $6 mil. As Mike is a more valuable & versatile player, hope this bodes well for him. |
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05-25-17 11:21 AM - Post#229650
Vic, I don't think that this is a new contract. It seems to be a player option for an additional year at $6 million. That being said, I would be surprised if Mike does not get a 3-4 year deal at $6-$8 million per year which absolutely blows my mind. GO MIKE!!!
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
05-25-17 12:22 PM - Post#229656
Podcast on Mike's season stats and contract prospects. Segment starts around 7:30. They're projecting $6-7 million for 3 years, but maybe as high at $10 million. Mind boggling. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/5/25/15688568/a... |
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05-25-17 12:30 PM - Post#229657
That might work but I think he'll command a bit more. If Mike can sustain his current level of play, I think he will command far more than that, closer to 3 years for $24 million total. I looked at comparable PFs and smaller centers aged 24-29 who signed new contracts in the offseason. They are listed below, along with their contracts and selected stats for the year immediately prior to signing the contract. (Mike's stats are for this year - since this is the year just prior to his new contract.) Name.../... Contract.../.Height,Age /MPG/PPG/RPG/APG/PER./Win Shares Mike Muscala/ . . ? . ? . . /6-11,25 /21.4/8.3/3.8/1.7/15.4//3-4 (est) Miles Plumlee/4 yrs, $52M/6-11,28 /14.3/5.1/3.8/0.3/17.4/2.2 Jon Leuer/4 yrs, $42M/6-10,27 /18.7/8.5/5.6/1.1/16.2/2.7 Meyers Leonard/4 yrs, $41M/7-0,24 /21.9/8.4/5.1/1.5/11.3/2.2 Dwight Powell/4 yrs, $37M/6-11,25 /21.3/7.6/4.8/0.9/16.8/3.1 Andrew Nicholson/4 yrs, $26M/6-9,27 /14.7/6.7/3.6/0.4/14.8/0.6 Darrell Arthur/3 yrs, $23M/6-9,28 /21.7/7.4/4.2/1.4/12.5/2.3 Cole Aldrich/ 3yrs, $22M/6-11, 28 /13.3/5.5/4.8/0.8/21.3/3.5 Tyler Zeller/2 yrs, $16M/7-0,26 /11.8/6.5/3.0/0.5/15.4/1.7 Tarik Black/2 yrs, $12.5/6-9,25 /12.9/3.6/4.0/0.4/12.3/0.7 Notes: PER is a metric that tries to incorporate every statistical category into one overall stat. Win shares attempts to measure how many wins each player is responsible for. - - - - Looking purely at the stats, Mike is clearly better than Nicholson, Arthur, Zeller, and Black. He is not far behind the others, with rebounding being the only issue. However Mike is a better shooter than any on the list - which should narrow the gap. Defense is an issue compared to some, but not all. Opinions? Bringing forward this list of the contracts of Centers/PF's similar to Mike. Some of them are clearly not as good.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
05-25-17 01:59 PM - Post#229673
Looking at this list, something in the 8-10 million per year range looks more likely. |
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05-25-17 02:20 PM - Post#229675
Six figure salaries are fairly common in the "real world", but the idea of earning $8,000,000-$10,000,000 per year is just plain insane. (I typed out the numbers so that we can truly appreciate the amount of cash involved.) That being said, personally, I cannot ever fault anybody for earning as much as possible. I hope that Mike maximizes his contract by getting a few different teams who make offers.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
05-25-17 03:51 PM - Post#229682
Six figure salaries are fairly common in the "real world", but the idea of earning $8,000,000-$10,000,000 per year is just plain insane. It took most of my career to get to a six figure salary. Mike is going to make more in a year than I will make in my entire life. Good for him, but "insane" is an appropriate description. |
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05-25-17 10:51 PM - Post#229690
The insane part, to me, is the relatively low level stats required to earn $6-10 million per season. I wish Mike all the best and hope he capitalizes on his opportunity, but gosh, that kind of money for pedestrian stats and not even being a full time rotation player is crazy. No wonder the average person needs to take a loan out to see an NBA game in person. |
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05-26-17 11:44 AM - Post#229698
MrPhillie, have you seen any of the Groupon prices for Sixers or Phillies tickets recently? Our entire office just went to a Phillies' game 2 weeks ago on Dollar Dog Night for only $10 each!
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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05-26-17 04:21 PM - Post#229701
Six figure salaries are fairly common in the "real world", but the idea of earning $8,000,000-$10,000,000 per year is just plain insane. (I typed out the numbers so that we can truly appreciate the amount of cash involved.) That being said, personally, I cannot ever fault anybody for earning as much as possible. I hope that Mike maximizes his contract by getting a few different teams who make offers. Speaking of huge salaries, Bucknellians ranked 1st and 9th on Bloomberg's list of the top ten highest-paid executives for 2016. Marc Lore '93 received about $237 Million for the year and Les Moonves '71 earned about $86.5 Million. Lore will receive similar compensation for the next four years as part of the sale of his Jet.com to Walmart. He is now CEO of Jet.com and also CEO of Walmart.com. (See previous thread.) Moonves recently signed a new contract that should keep his compensation over $75 Million through 2021. Bloomberg Top 10 Highest-Paid Executives for 2016
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05-27-17 10:48 PM - Post#229709
Nice night out for $10! Even though the Phils are terrible yet again. Basketball tickets are typically expensive for the average Joe, or Bill or Dan or Jill. When players averaging 10-12 minutes get $8-10 million, somebody has to pay. |
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06-02-17 12:20 AM - Post#229787
Here is a lengthy podcast from Peachtree Hoops evaluating Mike's season and his value to the Hawks: http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/5/25/15688568/a... (scroll to 7:20 on the audio - runs for 9+ minutes) They point out that after the All Star break the Hawks were +7.0 with Mike on the floor. According to them, "Mike Muscala enjoyed the best year of his career by a considerable margin." They speculate he might be worth 3 years at $18 Million, which I think is likely a bit low.
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06-04-17 06:59 PM - Post#229838
Mike got engaged recently to an Atlanta-area resident who is a "fashion stylist". https://twitter.com/mikemuscala/status/87 138926004...
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06-05-17 11:06 AM - Post#229847
Better get that pre-nup in place before the mega contract is signed . . . .
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06-05-17 11:02 PM - Post#229861
Just FYI, Mike was very offended at that exact comment on Twitter. |
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06-06-17 08:12 AM - Post#229863
Reality sucks, but we all have to deal with it.
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06-06-17 11:18 AM - Post#229867
Just FYI, Mike was very offended at that exact comment on Twitter. Probably not something most people like to see in writing, but I'd be surprised if both Mike's agent and his attorney haven't spoken to him about pre-nups as well.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
06-06-17 09:37 PM - Post#229872
Always advisable but no ones business to comment on twitter. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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06-20-17 09:01 PM - Post#230239
Here's very nice video of MM highlights from this past season. Just went up on youtube today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKk7Qza3_-g
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06-20-17 09:54 PM - Post#230240
Interesting that Atl just traded Dwight Howard and 31st pick to Charlotte for Miles Plumee, Marco Belinelli and 41st pick. Plumlee and Muscala kinda play the same position although Plumlee is prob listed as a Center. His career hasn't produced great results but apparently you don't have to be great to get a great contract. |
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06-20-17 10:04 PM - Post#230241
That trade is a combination of a salary dump and an indictment of Howard's value. If it wasn't already apparent, this confirms they are going to let Millsap go. Maybe some sort of sign and trade. If Mike re-signs with Atlanta, he will be a starter.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
06-20-17 10:34 PM - Post#230243
......on a terrible team. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
06-21-17 10:22 AM - Post#230254
I don't know. I don't see them letting Millsap walk without making a serious offer. The question is whether he will take a little less money to stay in Atlanta or go after a max offer elsewhere. It became clear late in the season Howard was more of a liability than an asset. Maybe he could have worked to fit into their system better, but given their salary constraints it made sense to trade him. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
06-21-17 12:07 PM - Post#230260
Millsap is getting long in the tooth. Not sure if he'd command as much as he believes for a long term deal |
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06-22-17 09:57 PM - Post#230301
Hawks drafted Wake's John Collins, who plays Mike's position. If Millsaps stays, this cannot be good for Mike in Atl. |
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06-22-17 10:33 PM - Post#230302
Hawks drafted Wake's John Collins, who plays Mike's position. If Millsaps stays, this cannot be good for Mike in Atl. I don't see it as a big deal. First of all, I think the chance of Millsap returning is low. Also Collins, a 6-10 235 lb low post player, played a lot of center for Wake and will probably play a fair amount of center for Atlanta. And finally, Mike played a lot of center down the stretch for Atlanta after it became apparent that Howard wasn't helping much in close games. If Mike re-signs with Atlanta, I would still expect him to play significant minutes.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
06-23-17 08:53 AM - Post#230310
If Millsap goes, they will definitely re-sign Mike. Gee, no one drafted Tim Kempton! |
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
06-23-17 09:33 AM - Post#230314
Kempton signed with a team from Spain. |
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06-23-17 12:12 PM - Post#230324
Kempton signed with a team from Spain. When I first read this site, I thought that Kempton had signed with Bilbo Baggins from the Lord of the Rings books. (Sorry, but I am a SciFi/Fantasy geek.) It is actually Bilbao Basket: http://www.eurobasket.com/Spain/news/491992/RET Abe...
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06-23-17 12:49 PM - Post#230325
Kempton signed with a team from Spain. Although no-one, even Lehigh fans, expected Kempton to be drafted, it was interesting to see his various metrics from one of the NBA combines. He was a bit shorter than advertised with a way below-average wingspan and a mediocre vertical jump and mediocre agility. If nothing else, he was #1 in the combine in "tallest" shoes - gaining 1.5 inches with shoes on. With shoes off, he is only 6'8.25". Height with shoes: 6'9.75" Height without shoes: 6'8.25" Wingspan: 6'8.5" Standing reach: 8'8.5" No step vertical jump: 24" 3/4 court sprint: 3.59 seconds Lane agility drill: 12.11 seconds (average for centers, way below average for PF's) For comparison, here are Muscala's marks for the same items: Height with shoes: 6'11.5" Height without shoes: 6'10.25" Wingspan: 7'1" Standing reach: 9'0" No step vertical jump: 28" (almost 1.5" above average) 3/4 court sprint: 3.44 seconds (3rd best among centers at the combine) Lane agility drill: 11.76 seconds (3rd best among centers at the combine) Btw, the average wingspan for PF's was 7'0" and for centers it was 7'1.5".
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
06-24-17 07:03 AM - Post#230335
Kempton will be a fine European player. |
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06-24-17 12:16 PM - Post#230338
Kempton will be a fine European player. Agree. But not an NBA player. BTW, I was surprised to see his height, without shoes, is only 6'8.25".
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06-28-17 10:41 PM - Post#230435
Little details to lead to big NBA payoff for Roseville's Mike Muscala Fairly long article that points out Mike and his fiancee just built a new home in a small town southeast of Minneapolis. Wonder if that might influence his signing decision.
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06-30-17 12:16 PM - Post#230493
I hope that he makes a boatload of $$$ and ends up on the Sixers!!!
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06-30-17 12:39 PM - Post#230494
I love that the banner on Mike's Twitter profile is a Bucknell league championship moment. https://twitter.com/mikemuscala |
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06-30-17 01:26 PM - Post#230495
I love that the banner on Mike's Twitter profile is a Bucknell league championship moment. https://twitter.com/mikemuscala Yes, great picture and good of Mike to still use it. One one not-so-good memory it brings, however, is DP refusing to bring in the subs in the final seconds of that game - even with an insurmountable lead and the clock stopped for a foul. Mike and Bryson were deprived of a deserved standing ovation in their final Sojka game, as were Cam Ayers and Ryan Frazier. Also kept some subs from showing up in the championship box score.
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07-01-17 01:38 AM - Post#230511
1..Article: Wolves, Mavericks headline teams interested in Mike Muscala 2..Twitter report "Roseville native Mike Muscala drawing interest from the Twolves, Hawks, Mavs, Pacers, Heat, and more. Stretch bigs are in demand." - - - - - 3. Also a long TV interview with Mike at his basketball camp in MN. It has grown a lot. Ben Oberfeld was part of the coaching staff this year. http://kstp.com/news/mike-muscala-you th-basketball...
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-01-17 07:45 AM - Post#230512
With the amount of money being thrown around the NBA this year, Mike looks to be in for a huge payday. $10M/yr wouldn't surprise me at all. What does someone do with $10M/yr, let alone $40M (Steph Curry)? |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
07-01-17 08:25 AM - Post#230513
Based on his play and not sentiment, is Mike capable of being an NBA starter? I definitely see a 6th man role and more minutes for the right club. |
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07-03-17 05:25 PM - Post#230524
That trade is a combination of a salary dump and an indictment of Howard's value. If it wasn't already apparent, this confirms they are going to let Millsap go. Maybe some sort of sign and trade. If Mike re-signs with Atlanta, he will be a starter. The Hawks let Millsap go without even making an offer. Denver reportedly paying him $90 million for 3 years, although not all the 3rd year money is guaranteed. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/197990 94/new-de...
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-03-17 07:24 PM - Post#230525
It really surprised me they let Millsap go without making an offer. At this point, I hope Mike moves on as well, maybe to Minnesota. T'wolves look like they'll be fun to watch. Atlanta is going to be bad for many years to come. Really not impressed with this new GM. |
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Paulie777 PhD Student Posts 1767 |
07-05-17 10:07 AM - Post#230529
My rationale is that Atlanta will give Mike a decent offer. They've spent time developing him and he knows the system well. In their eyes he may be seen as a value and that seems to be the Hawks focus right now. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
07-05-17 01:39 PM - Post#230530
It really surprised me they let Millsap go without making an offer. At this point, I hope Mike moves on as well, maybe to Minnesota. T'wolves look like they'll be fun to watch. Atlanta is going to be bad for many years to come. Really not impressed with this new GM. I'm very impressed with this GM. It is not his fault it got to the point where Horford and Millsap walked without return, I'm confident he would have gotten something for them at the various trade deadlines. He was able to turn Millsap into Diamond Stone and Houston's first rounder. He dumped th awful Howard contract to add shooting the team needs. It is a rebuild that had to happen. They couldn't afford to pay the 342 million it took to sign the starting five that led them to the 60 win season. That said I hope he signs Mike at about 3 years 27 million.
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07-05-17 02:09 PM - Post#230531
I am starting to think that Mike may not get as much as I had previously thought. Last year, the salary cap exploded from $70 million to $94 million. Thus the teams started spending money like the proverbial drunken sailor. However this year the cap hardly moved at all - and thus many teams have no room for free agents other than what they have under arcane things like the mid-level exception. Bird exceptions, bi-annual exception, etc. In any event, this may lead to less money being available for players who aren't superstars.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-05-17 07:03 PM - Post#230540
It's pretty clear from the trade and free agent news/rumors that Atlanta has no interest in re-signing Mike. Hopefully, he lands with a playoff caliber team somewhere. He will be a valuable asset to someone. |
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Paulie777 PhD Student Posts 1767 |
07-05-17 08:48 PM - Post#230545
Somewhat telling is the Atlanta Hawks twitter feed for july1, Mike's birthday. There was a nice birthday wish for Kent Bazemore, who shares the same birthday as Mike, and also a bunch of rookie signing news. Mike was not mentioned on that day. Was it an oversight, or have they moved on? |
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Paulie777 PhD Student Posts 1767 |
07-06-17 11:38 PM - Post#230570
My hunch is 2 years 5.5 million at Dallas. Stay tuned. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
07-07-17 08:05 AM - Post#230571
Interesting statistical projection of his worth. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/mike-...
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07-07-17 09:24 AM - Post#230576
Interesting statistical projection of his worth. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/mike-... At the projected 5 Year $22.8 Million level, the Sixers need to trade Okafor and sign Muscala ASAP. The Sixers should be a fun, young team over the next 5 years with lots of wins in the future.
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07-07-17 01:11 PM - Post#230584
I am starting to think that Mike may not get as much as I had previously thought. Last year, the salary cap exploded from $70 million to $94 million. Thus the teams started spending money like the proverbial drunken sailor. However this year the cap hardly moved at all - and thus many teams have no room for free agents other than what they have under arcane things like the mid-level exception. Bird exceptions, bi-annual exception, etc. In any event, this may lead to less money being available for players who aren't superstars. Looks like Mike may have been a victim of the tightening salary cap. Reportedly just signed with the Hawks for two years for a total of $10 Million. That is far less than similar players got last year. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/ 883370829...
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
07-07-17 01:13 PM - Post#230585
I think the important detail about this contract for him is that he has a player option to opt out next year. Most likely he'll start for the hawks this year at center, it allows him to prove himself as a starter and try to get a bigger payday next year. But yea at it's face value, 2 year 10 million is pretty disappointing. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
07-07-17 01:17 PM - Post#230586
But when you look at what Olynyk it's actually pretty surprising |
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07-07-17 01:29 PM - Post#230589
I think the important detail about this contract for him is that he has a player option to opt out next year. Most likely he'll start for the hawks this year at center, it allows him to prove himself as a starter and try to get a bigger payday next year. But yea at it's face value, 2 year 10 million is pretty disappointing. Yes, the player opt-out makes it a better deal from his perspective. That feature wasn't in the first tweet about his signing. Article: https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/7/7/15937442/n... It is possible that Mike had a strong preference for Atlanta, since it is the franchise that developed him and because his fiance is from that area.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-07-17 04:32 PM - Post#230593
It's hard to reconcile this with Olinyk's 4 yr, $50M deal with Miami. He may be marginally better than Mike, but not $7.5M/yr better. Hawks got a bargain. Still, $5M isn't chump change either. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
07-08-17 01:08 PM - Post#230609
Congratulations to Mike. The first year of this deal pays him more than he made the previous four. $5 million is nothing to sneeze at and the most lucrative years of his career are in front of him. Congratulations Mike! |
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07-09-17 04:30 PM - Post#230625
Some comments from Peachtree Hoops on Mike's deal: https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/7/8/15941044/a... They call the Muscala deal a "huge steal for the Hawks" - however balanced to some extent by the player opt-out clause which might net him a much larger contract if he has a good year. He apparently has some sort of no-trade provision as well.
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07-09-17 05:06 PM - Post#230627
Charles Lee is coaching the Hawks summer league team this year. Like the orange tie. https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/7/9/15942338/2... |
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07-10-17 09:00 AM - Post#230650
Congratulations to Mike. The first year of this deal pays him more than he made the previous four. $5 million is nothing to sneeze at and the most lucrative years of his career are in front of him. Congratulations Mike! I would be happy to get "only" $5 million per year. Actually, I'll give them a 10% discount to sign me today!!!
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Paulie777 PhD Student Posts 1767 |
07-10-17 11:41 AM - Post#230669
Its all gravy after 6 or 7 million anyway. His contract is a work in progress just like his career is. If he does individually well on a lottery focused team he will be rewarded next year. If he does poorly he will push but still have next year to regroup. A calculated risk perhaps geminated at a university on a hill. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
07-12-17 02:30 PM - Post#230815
Its all gravy after 6 or 7 million anyway. I somehow think I might hit the gravy point a bit before that???
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
07-12-17 07:41 PM - Post#230847
Hawks signed Dewayne Dedmon today. He played with the Spurs last season and plays center. He signed a 2 year deal worth 14 million. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-12-17 08:35 PM - Post#230848
Hawks signed Dewayne Dedmon today. He played with the Spurs last season and plays center. He signed a 2 year deal worth 14 million. Article on the Dedmon acquisition. Sounds like the jury is out on whether he will start ahead of Mike. https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/7/11/15957158/... |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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07-15-17 10:56 AM - Post#230930
Based solely on contracts, it appears the Hawks value Dedmon more than Mike. But hopefully Mike starts and puts up decent numbers so he can sign a bigger deal next year. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-18-17 08:01 PM - Post#231019
Interesting article on Mike free-agency and decision to stay in Atlanta. It will be interesting to see if they give him a more prominent role with so many young players on the team. https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/7/18/15985058/... |
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07-27-17 09:08 PM - Post#231359
article on what aspects of his game Mike is working on this summer http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/Atlanta... |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
07-28-17 07:20 AM - Post#231362
The reason for the flurry of articles was his official signing and media event this week. Here is another. https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/7/25/16027530/...
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-31-17 08:37 PM - Post#231458
New Muscala video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANvO6YhLmA |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
08-02-17 08:01 PM - Post#231529
CBS picked each team's most over and under-paid player. No surprise who is the Hawks' most underpaid. Mike needs a new agent. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/photos/every-nba- tea... |
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09-18-17 09:06 PM - Post#232956
This "article" reshuffled the 2013 NBA draft based on how players have performed since that time. Mike made it to the first round at #27 while CJ moved up to #3. http://newarena.com/nba/re-drafting-the-a bsolutely... |
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09-19-17 02:47 PM - Post#232982
Peachtree Hoops'17-'18 Player Preview: https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/9/19/16331112/... |
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