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rbg
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11-09-16 02:02 PM - Post#212770    

The news that Makai Mason has injured his foot and is going to miss the upcoming season was posted in a couple of different spots yesterday.

A post at NBC's College Basketball Talk notes that Mason injured his foot during a weekend scrimmage against Boston University. The author's source mentioned that Mason dislocated a toe, suffered fractures in his foot and had ligament damage. He will undergo surgery and require 5 months of recovery.

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/11/09/...

Looking at Yale's Absence Policy, it would appear that Mason could apply for a Medical Withdrawal. If approved, he would need to stay away for one full term, not including the term in which withdrawal occurred.

http://catalog.yale.edu/ycps/academic-regulat ions/...

If Mason applies for the withdrawal before the end of this semester, he could come back for the Fall of 2017. If he waits until the beginning of the Spring Term, he could return at the beginning of the Spring of 2018. If he decides to stay in school, then he would graduate in the Spring of 2018 and have a year of eligibility as a Graduate Transfer.
HARVARDDADGRAD
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11-09-16 02:14 PM - Post#212773    

First of all, this is a horrible blow for Yale and the rest of the league. I'm sure we all wish him a full and healthy recovery.

Mason may have a bit of a different angle than Rosenberg or Chambers did. Remember, he applied for the NBA draft this past spring. Although likely not a serious choice at the time, it does indicate an interest and timing perspective. I think there is a unique chance for him to graduate on time and, depending on his health and draft stock, play professionally somewhere or transfer to a Big 5 school, hoping to to improve his options.

Regardless, just terrible news.
SomeGuy
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11-09-16 02:28 PM - Post#212776    

I'll ask my standard question on this -- does Yale make you leave school in order to preserve eligibility, or can you take five years to graduate? In other words, does Mason have to leave school in order to have two more years at Yale?

I understand that there are financial incentives to leaving school, and there are also reasons to stay in school, graduate on time, and save that fifth year for grad school (like Grant Mullins did). However, there are some Ivy schools where you MUST leave school in order to preserve the 4th year of eligibility (Princeton definitely has the rule). At other schools, my understanding is that the 4 in 5 rule allows you to stay in school if you like, take 5 years to graduate, and use your injury year as a 5th year senior.

Can't think of 5th year guys at Yale off the top, other than Dominick Martin, who was in school for 5 years, but transferred to Yale from Princeton and had to sit out a year.
mrjames
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11-09-16 02:38 PM - Post#212779    

I hope he does not do that, but you are right that it's a possibly attractive thing to do given his pro aspirations. I *think* the Ivy has enough exposure now, though, to make the known of being the star and focal point a good enough gig to make the unknown of leaving less attractive.

That being said, if former Ivy guys continue to have success at higher levels that is similar to their Ivy contributions, that could make the Big 5 transfer situation more palatable.

My gut says they figure out a way to get him 2 more years at Yale, but I don't know.
SomeGuy
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11-09-16 03:20 PM - Post#212789    

I would guess that Mason is more likely to have a Shonn Miller impact than an Alex Mitola impact as a grad student. If that guess is correct, then he could probably go the grad student route and play at a higher level without hurting his pro prospects (and perhaps enhance them).

Will be interesting to see what Mullins and Hicks do this year, too, as that may give some more evidence as to what a 1st team All-Ivy player could do on a bigger stage.
HARVARDDADGRAD
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11-09-16 04:03 PM - Post#212796    

My point was a bit different than whether it would be advisable to play his fifth/fourth year at Yale or at a Power basketball school. Mason applied for the draft this past spring. Based upon that, if he withdraws from Yale this year (which he had to do to preserve any Ivy eligibility) he would not graduate next year and thus if he wanted to go pro after graduation he would now be three (actually 2.5) years away. Given the fact that he has already shown his interest in the draft, I expect him to stay in school, play in 2017-18, and graduate from Yale in 2018. If he recovers and successfully returns he can enter the draft with a Yale degree. Or, he can take that degree and his additional year of eligibility elsewhere. The fact that Mason declared for the draft last spring is what makes his goals and priorities unique.
SomeGuy
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11-09-16 05:41 PM - Post#212811    

That's part of my question -- he doesn't have to leave school to maintain Ivy eligibility (unless the rule has changed). He can stay in school, get an injury waiver, and come back for a fifth year so long as he doesn't graduate. He may have to leave school in order to maintain eligibility to play at Yale, but that would be a Yale specific rule that says you can't take 5 years to graduate.
mrjames
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11-09-16 07:03 PM - Post#212828    

I believe, like Harvard, Yale has the eight-semester rule than mandates you cannot purposely delay graduation for athletic reasons. Not all Ivies have this rule, but Harvard definitely does, and I believe Yale does too.
bradley
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11-09-16 08:43 PM - Post#212833    

Heart breaking. His play against Baylor last Spring was crazy good, 31 points. A rare Ivy player that could get his shot off against larger, athletic defenders. Amazing competitive drive. Played great against the best guards in the Ivy League including Lo and others -- killer instinct.

Hope that he plays two more years at Yale.
bradley
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09-27-17 10:06 PM - Post#233284    

Apparently, Mason has committed to Baylor for his final year of eligibility and supposedly, big time programs were actively recruiting him including Duke. You would think that he has recovered from the foot injury but it may take some time to fully recover.

He has certainly demonstrated the ability to get off a good shot against big time competition, i.e. Baylor. In a one game IL Championship game, he could well be the difference maker as who is going to stop him, i.e. Myles Stephens type of defender -- quickness plus height???

It appears that Yale's non-conference schedule is not as strong as prior years so they may have to win the IL Tournament to get a berth. I am sure that Harvard and others will do their best to negate him.
rbg
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09-29-17 09:19 AM - Post#233355    

In June, the New Haven Register reported that "Mason isn’t 100-percent participating in full basketball activities just yet, but he’s getting close."

The same article noted that sophomore forward Jordan Bruner had knee surgery in April to repair his meniscus but is expected to be ready for the beginning of the regular season in November.

Looking at Bart Torvik's rankings for the end of 2015-2016 and 2016-2017, as well as the preseason for 2017-218, Yale can make the argument that its upcoming non-conference schedule (including TCU, Wisconsin, Creighton, Georgia Tech, St. Bonaventure, Vermont, Albany, Iona and Monmouth) is as strong, if not stronger, than its last two seasons.

http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-yal e-mens...

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

Opp Ranking # of Games Against
1- 20 '15-'16 (2) '16-'17 (1) '17-'18 (1)
21-50 '15-'16 (1) '16-'17 (0) '17-'18 (1)
51-100 '15-'16 (0) '16-'17 (2) '17-'18 (4)
101-150 '15-'16 (2) '16-'17 (4) '17-'18 (3)
151-200 '15-'16 (2) '16-'17 (0) '17-'18 (0)
201-250 '15-'16 (2) '16-'17 (0) '17-'18 (1)
251-351 '15-'16 (4) '16-'17 (5) '17-'18 (5)

Yale, Harvard and Princeton all are around the Top 100 and have strong non-conference schedules. If they can win some of these marquee games, hopefully that will help the league's chances of gettting a second bid. If not, then any of these teams are going to need to win the Ivy Tournament to get the one bid.

For those top IL teams that miss out on the NCAA Tournament, the recent inclusion of former Princeton AD Gary Walters on the NIT Committee can hopefully improve the Ivy League's chances of getting 1 or more teams into that tournament.
Silver Maple
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09-29-17 11:18 PM - Post#233373    

I'm pretty sure that there's only one Ivy institution for which Gary Walters would put his thumb on the scale.
rbg
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10-24-17 08:56 AM - Post#234455    

Jon Rothstein reports that Mason has been fully cleared to resume all basketball activities.

https://www.fanragsports.com/rothstein-makai-mason ...
PennFan10
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10-26-17 10:50 PM - Post#234709    

Jones said on the media call this week that Mason has a back issue and hasn’t practiced much but that he expects him back in a week
rbg
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01-16-18 09:55 AM - Post#243680    

According to Jon Rothstein at FanRag Sports, Coach Jones has stated that Makai Mason will return within the next 3 weeks.

https://www.fanragsports.com/rothstein-makai-mason ...

For the next 3 weeks, Yale is at Brown on Friday the 19th, home against Harvard and Dartmouth on the 26th & 27th, followed by away games at Princeton and Penn. The week after that, they have home games with Columbia and Cornell.

After watching Yale almost give Friday's game away to Brown, a healthy Mason will help give the Bulldogs are more stable and disciplined point guard. With a deep group of guards and a front court that only has three players averaging double digit minutes (Reynolds, Atkinson and Yates), Yale could certainly use more experienced help in the front court.
Silver Maple
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01-16-18 10:56 AM - Post#243684    

Perhaps, but it could take him a few games or more to re-acclimate himself to the game. It will be interesting to see how that process goes. From my perspective (in contrast to the dozens of Yale fans on this board), I hope it goes poorly. All that said, I'm genuinely happy that he's able to play again. It must have been frustrating for him to sit and watch for all these weeks.
SomeGuy
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01-17-18 08:31 PM - Post#243854    

Good news for Yale. I'd been worried that he might figure two years as a grad transfer is better than one, particularly when this will just be a small fraction of a season.
Old Bear
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01-17-18 09:05 PM - Post#243861    

I'm hearing he may play against Harvard.
rbg
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01-18-18 05:18 PM - Post#243913    

Mason is not on the roster in Yale's Game Notes for tomorrow's contest at Brown.

http://www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2017- 1...
rbg
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01-25-18 05:58 PM - Post#244671    

Mason is not listed in Yale's Game Notes for the upcoming games vs Harvard and Dartmouth.

http://www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2017- 1...
HARVARDDADGRAD
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01-26-18 04:20 PM - Post#244713    

Just pulled up Yale roster on Yale's website and Mason is on roster. Is that a change?
rbg
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01-26-18 06:18 PM - Post#244720    

If you're talking about Mason being listed on the Yale Men's Basketball team roster, he has been there all along. Since he stayed in school last year, he was listed on their 2016-2017 roster, as well.

I just checked the Game Notes for this weekend's games vs Harvard and Dartmouth and cannot find him on "The Probable Lineup" section of Page 2, which includes "Starters" and "Off The Bench" groups. At his personal information area on Page 4, the first item notes he is out with an injury.

Maybe there's some update information, though.
Tiger69
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01-27-18 04:41 PM - Post#244781    

They looked pretty good without him yesterday. At some point getting him back on the court may be counter productive as he will be a little rusty with the current lineup and he might lose a year of eligibility.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
01-27-18 06:01 PM - Post#244788    

Huh? They lost to Harvard with a limited Aiken... at Home. They started the game going down 5-20. How is that looking pretty good?
mrjames
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01-27-18 06:02 PM - Post#244789    

I’d be beyond stunned if he didn’t play this season.
SRP
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01-27-18 08:52 PM - Post#244833    

Feet can be finicky.
Silver Maple
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01-27-18 10:20 PM - Post#244908    

Great to see so much activity here on the Yale board. All those Bulldog fans chatting about their team. The level of fan engagement is truly inspiring.
Tiger69
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01-30-18 04:51 PM - Post#245174    

I came in when it was 5-20 and h was 5 for 6 on 3s. From then on it was a different game. If I were a Penn fan, I wouldn't be taking y too lightly this weekend -- even with Penn's recent two big wins(?) over the Cs. Come to think of it, don't worry about them -- Penn will blow them away.
palestra38
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01-30-18 05:16 PM - Post#245178    

Worry about yourself, big guy.
Tiger69
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01-31-18 02:34 AM - Post#245206    

I always worry about Yale. I was referring to Mike Porter's post.
palestra38
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01-31-18 10:56 AM - Post#245222    

I worry about every game. Nothing is a sure thing in this league, and when you play 6 (Princeton) or 7 (Penn) of the last 9 on the road, you must hold serve on the home games before you hit the road.
mbaprof
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01-31-18 02:00 PM - Post#245242    

I'd be surprised, he has to be looking at two years of eligibility at Baylor. Anyone know what sort of a program he is enrolling in? Most are two years programs and most players leave school before getting degree (per ncaa study)

mbaprof
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01-31-18 02:00 PM - Post#245243    

I'd be surprised, he has to be looking at two years of eligibility at Baylor. Anyone know what sort of a program he is enrolling in? Most are two years programs and most players leave school before getting degree (per ncaa study)

mrjames
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01-31-18 02:34 PM - Post#245247    

He's already a post grad year and redshirt year in. He's gonna be 23 in May. He wants to have a pro career.

I don't think he's looking for another year of college eligibility. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
01-31-18 05:13 PM - Post#245266    

  • Tiger69 Said:
I came in when it was 5-20 and h was 5 for 6 on 3s. From then on it was a different game. If I were a Penn fan, I wouldn't be taking y too lightly this weekend -- even with Penn's recent two big wins(?) over the Cs. Come to think of it, don't worry about them -- Penn will blow them away.



I’m absolutely worried about this weekend’s games, and always am for every game. My comment has nothing to do with that. Instead I was just pointing out your post made no sense as Yale has been on a pretty steady downward trend, and the Harvard game at home is one they’d hope to win. That’s not “playing pretty well”. They’d love to get Mason back ASAP. I’m worried about the game as is so with Mason, even more so.
Silver Maple
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01-31-18 06:27 PM - Post#245280    

This game worries me as well. However, even if Mason plays, I think it's likely he's going to be rusty. As great a player as he is, it's possible that he won't be a major factor this weekend. Give him a couple of weeks to re-acclimate.

And again-- really great to see the Yale fans having such a lively conversation on their discussion board!
mrjames
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01-31-18 08:16 PM - Post#245292    

I’d be way more worried about Brown than Yale. Tough matchup for Penn - when they go BA, Cambridge, Choh, Okolie plus one that’s gonna be a tough man matchup. Frankly might be best served to go back to the 1-3-1. Zone really frustrated the Bears versus Dartmouth. But that’s obviously not Penn’s identity this year. A tightly called game could spell real problems.
palestra38
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01-31-18 10:35 PM - Post#245321    

Maybe, but we have the athletic advantage. I don't think Brown will be able to get its shots like it does against teams like Dartmouth. But no game is easy in this league these days.
mrjames
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01-31-18 10:53 PM - Post#245324    

Don’t know how athletic you think Harvard is, but Brown got downhill on Harvard at will during that game. Think you might be underestimating what Brown can put on the floor at times.
Mike Porter
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02-01-18 01:21 AM - Post#245337    

Yeah I’ve seen Brown play a few times and they have plenty of athleticism. Cambridge and Choh both have had multiple alley oops or close attempts in games and Anderson is super quick at PG. Both are concerning games but I worry about them all.

I think Penn needs to shoot much better this weekend to get results we hope for...
palestra38
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02-01-18 06:37 AM - Post#245340    

We're taller and stronger. Yes, they have a bunch of 6'4 and under guys running around who can score. Our guards can cover them. What you saw against Temple and St Joe's should beat Brown at home.

But there is no question that we can shoot ourselves out of a "W". I take nothing for granted.
SomeGuy
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02-01-18 09:21 AM - Post#245345    

Is this really true? In KenPom, Brown is the #267 offense in the country. 7th best in the league. Yes, the game scares me in the sense that every game scares me, etc. and Cambridge and Anderson can go off any game. But this doesn’t look like a game where there would be any need to show up with a new defense. That seems like a good recipe for reducing our chances.

On the individual matchups, where do you see the issue? Is it Betley guarding Cambridge? I’m pretty confident in our bigs’ ability to keep up with Choh — I don’t see a matchup issue for us there.

We do show 1-3-1 some late in close games. Frankly, i’d Like to see less of it (against Columbia in particular it was a disaster).
rbg
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02-01-18 10:46 AM - Post#245353    

Coach Martin was discussing Penn on his weekly show last night (which can be found on the ILN).

He feels that Penn has physical and mental toughness. He felt that Penn had a good offense, which is due to their ball movement and ability to spread the floor. He was impressed by Betley and Brodeur, specifically.

He was more impressed with their defense. Where Harvard gets in your face, tries to deny passes and attempts to disrupt a team's offense, Penn succeeds by strong gap defense and protecting the paint. They move teams away from the 3 point line and the rim, forcing opponents into a high number of unassisted two point jumpers.

FYI - Here are some numbers from last year's games.

Saturday 1/14/17
Brown 82 at Penn 70

Brown:
2 Pt 20-36 (56%)
3 Pt 6-17 (35%)
FT 24-26 (92%)
Rebounds 32 (10 O & 22 D)
TO 14
Points - Anderson 21, Speith 20, Okolie 14, Blackmon 12, Howard 4

Penn:
2 Pt 21-36 (58%)
3 Pt 4-19 (21%)
FT 16-19 (84%)
Rebounds 29 (10 O & 19 D)
TO 16
Points - Howard 20, Foreman 19, Brodeur 12, Donahue 8, MacDonald 0

Friday 2/17/17
Penn 96 at Brown 72

Brown:
2 Pt 11-25 (44%)
3 Pt 12-32 (38%)
FT 14-19 (74%)
Rebounds 23 (5 O & 18 D)
TO 15
Points - Speith 26, Howard 10, Anderson 9, Blackmon 9, Daugherty 5, Okolie 0

Penn:
2 Pt 20-30 (67%)
3 Pt 14-29 (48%)
FT 14-19 (74%)
Rebounds 43 (10 O & 33 D)
TO 18
Points - Betley 28, Donahue 20, Howard 11, Brodeur 10, Foreman 6
mrjames
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02-01-18 10:47 AM - Post#245354    

The difference between 267 and national average isn't that large (~5pts per 100 poss or about 3.5 pts per game). So, they're not bad enough offensively where even if they really exploit their strengths, they'd still be a mediocre offense.

What's important is how they get to that number. They consistently bully their way to the free throw line (six of 16 games above 50% FT Rate, which is elite, and all but one of its games above the AVERAGE FT Rate for three Ivy teams). Between its gaudy free throw rate and its strong free throw shooting percentage, it's getting the fifth-highest percent of its points from the line in the nation. In Ivy play thus far, it's only increased those numbers (50% FT Rate average and 28% of points from the line). The only team that's had any success keeping Brown off the line was Dartmouth (which, though maligned previously, had the best defensive performance against Brown) due to it switching to zone.

Where Brown struggles is 1) if you can turn it into a jump shooting team or 2) if you have a credible shot blocker and turn the pressure up on the perimeter for steals. Harvard did both of those successfully with Chris Lewis on the floor and ran up big margins on Brown. But Lewis was in foul trouble (see above) and only played 15 mins - fortunately for Harvard, that was enough to provide a margin it couldn't squander.

Penn will be a 10-ish point favorite in both games, so my comments here are in the context of "worry relative to being a substantial favorite." I can just see a scenario where Penn can't keep Brown in front of it to force it to shoot jump shots, lets Brown get downhill where it doesn't have a credible shot blocker and has to foul, exposing its frontcourt depth issues. It's possible that even in that disaster scenario, Penn will have built up enough of an advantage (like Harvard did) to win regardless. From a personnel perspective, though, it's an interesting matchup, especially given the fact that Penn is 8-0 when holding opponents to a free throw rate under 30% and 4-6 over that mark.
palestra38
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02-01-18 11:00 AM - Post#245356    

That's where the athleticism comes in. I don't see them getting past Foreman and Woods to get those fouls on our bigs. Our highest PF average is Max at 3.1--we're 324th in the nation in committing fouls. We don't allow assists, either, which is key to preventing fouls.

We've been a very very good defensive team and should be too much for Brown. Our Achilles heel is shooting, and that is the only thing that could keep it close.
HARVARDDADGRAD
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02-01-18 11:48 AM - Post#245367    

I wouldn't underestimate Brown's offense. I posted earlier that although Harvard held Brown to 10 points in 10.5 minutes, Brown scored 77 points. Only St. Mary's and Kentucky have scored more points against Harvard's defense. Certainly, Chris Lewis' foul trouble limiting him to 15 minutes significantly impacted Harvard's defense, but Anderson, Cambridge and Okolie keep coming at you and Hunsaker can shoot 3's. Will all due respect to what has been posted, these 3 guards are built to drive and shoot athletically to an extent I don't see on any other Ivy team.

Penn is a better team because of its bigs and its defense, but Penn better be able to score because Brown will. Here would be my concerns:
- Brown shoots more FT's than any other squad by far
- the 4 guards shoot 85% from the line
- Brown will drive the lane and draw fouls
- Brown can make 3's in bunches, but is not a high % shooting team
- Penn's most athletic defenders aren't its best shooters

I think palestra38 called it correctly. If Penn shoots well, it should win. If it doesn't, it could be close and, if it comes down to FT's, the odds may shift to Brown.
mrjames
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02-01-18 12:20 PM - Post#245370    

Not sure where you're getting the fouls number. On a per game basis Penn's committing about 18 which is roughly national average (167th) and on an FT Rate basis, Penn opponents are at 34%, which is 197th nationally.

I think maybe you're just looking at total number of fouls, which is helped by the fact that Penn (and other Ivies) have played the fewest games in the nation.

Max is committing 5.3 fouls per 40 mins, which is the 4th-highest mark among 48 Ivy regulars. The reason why his average is 3.1 is because he's only playing 60% of team minutes, in large part due to foul trouble.

There's a weak positive correlation between assist rate allowed and FT Rate allowed, but it's very weak (R^2 of 0.02).
Old Bear
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02-01-18 03:51 PM - Post#245403    

'38, I'm not sure I agree with your superior athleticism argument, you may be surprised by Brown. Why is this discussion on the Yale Board? More room here?
palestra38
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02-01-18 04:10 PM - Post#245407    

Yes, you can stretch out and really relax in here.

Last year, the difference between the two games was night and day as Donahue moved towards a new lineup. Penn is playing far better defense this year and is a completely different matchup than when we started Jackson Donahue and Matt McDonald last year. Make no mistake--I am worried about every game, this one included. But it will take Brown playing well while Penn plays poorly, in my opinion, for Penn to lose this one.
SomeGuy
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02-01-18 05:08 PM - Post#245415    

This is the one place where there aren’t any home fans to complain about uninvited Penn posters dominating the conversation.
SomeGuy
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02-01-18 05:10 PM - Post#245416    

Well, the neat thing about Max getting in foul trouble is that it may solve the shot blocker problem by putting AJ in the middle. I think this is a game where we can play with Betley at the 4 for stretches.
Silver Maple
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02-01-18 05:33 PM - Post#245421    

  • SomeGuy Said:
This is the one place where there aren’t any home fans to complain about uninvited Penn posters dominating the conversation.



Honestly-- does Yale have any fans at all? What kinds of crowds do they get at PW?
PennFan10
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02-01-18 05:49 PM - Post#245424    

I fear Brown. I have watched them play. Their offense is quite potent and this is a better Brown team than any in recent years. Provy to OT, Northwestern was 6 pt game late, split with Yale. This is not going to be a game in the 60’s. 70s or 80’s more likely. Penn can score and has a more balanced offense than Harvard IMO. Cambridge is a problem.
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02-01-18 06:00 PM - Post#245426    

Cambridge is really, really good for a frosh. Athletic and can shoot. Old Bear, how did Brown get him?!? It doesn’t look like he even had that many offers.

Excited to see how we do this weekend but concerned as always, haha.
Mike Porter
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02-01-18 06:23 PM - Post#245430    

P.S. love that fans from Penn, Princeton, Harvard and Brown are chatting it up on the Yale board.
SRP
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02-01-18 07:05 PM - Post#245435    

I was never that nuts about the split into separate boards in the first place.
mrjames
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02-01-18 07:59 PM - Post#245437    

For Yale news, Mason not playing this weekend.
SomeGuy
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02-01-18 08:16 PM - Post#245440    

Don’t believe him SRP. It’s obviously a Harvard trick toconfuse the Ps.
SRP
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02-01-18 08:33 PM - Post#245442    

I'm starting to feel pretty bad for Mason at this point. This slow recovery cannot be fun.
Old Bear
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02-01-18 09:14 PM - Post#245451    

Mike, I believe Brown was on him early, He was in P'ton's and Penn's backyard at the Hun School, they must have seen him. You could say the same of Anderson, Choh and Okolie. MM, and staff are pretty good recruiters, and getting better at picking there spots.
HARVARDDADGRAD
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02-01-18 10:23 PM - Post#245462    

Gotta believe Harvard knew about Okolie before any other team did.
penn nation
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02-01-18 11:06 PM - Post#245464    

Cambridge had a rejection in that Providence game that was unreal.
whitakk
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02-02-18 12:30 AM - Post#245474    

  • penn nation Said:
Cambridge had a rejection in that Providence game that was unreal.



https://twitter.com/whitakk/status/938587 861565280...
rbg
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02-02-18 01:20 PM - Post#245568    

Jon Rothstein confirmed Mason's absence from this weekend's games. No information on a return for next weekend.

https://www.fanragsports.com/rothstein-yales-makai ...

While Yale fans are certainly not pleased with this, Baylor fans are starting to get a bit worried for next year.

https://247sports.com/college/baylor/Articl e/The-W...
PennFan10
PhD Student
Posts 1730
02-02-18 03:22 PM - Post#245605    

I’ll be surprised if Mason plays again at Yale.
mrjames
Professor
Posts 5236
02-02-18 04:04 PM - Post#245613    

This is the first time that I’ve begun to feel that way too. Too many stops and starts here. The number of times the likely return date has moved back is concerning.

What is important is that I do not believe there is any appetite for a sixth year, so what doesn’t seem to be at play here is any attempt to save eligibility.
HARVARDDADGRAD
PhD Student
Posts 1096
02-02-18 04:18 PM - Post#245616    

This presupposes that he is healthy and has a good year at Baylor. If he is injured or, well, out of sync there, he's out of mulligans.

A broken foot is precarious. Some in this league have tried to play after recovery only to quickly re-injure.

Of course, Mason's best option is to work himself back into playing share at Yale, help the Eli's make the tournament, and solidify his game going into next year.
Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts 2393
Mike Porter
02-03-18 01:26 AM - Post#245765    

  • Old Bear Said:
Mike, I believe Brown was on him early, He was in P'ton's and Penn's backyard at the Hun School, they must have seen him. You could say the same of Anderson, Choh and Okolie. MM, and staff are pretty good recruiters, and getting better at picking there spots.



Um... yeah so I wish Penn had recruited Cambridge, lol.

Want to trade him for future first round draft picks and a player to be named later?!
Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2255
02-03-18 10:36 AM - Post#245794    

Until Oni fouled out last night, yale did just fine without Mason.
rbg
Masters Student
Posts 761
02-08-18 04:52 PM - Post#246921    

In the weekly Mason watch, he is not listed on the roster in the Yale Game Notes for Columbia and Cornell.

http://www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2017- 1...

On Tuesday, a Yale Daily News article had some information about him.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/02/06/mens- bas...

- But this fall, as Yale fans know all too well, Mason suffered a setback and has yet to return to the court. Last Friday against Princeton, the guard was in shorts and peddling on the stationary bike during warm-ups but did not dress for the game.

Jones said that Mason was “getting closer,” and that “at some point, he’ll be on the court.” Although Mason has been doing the majority of his rehabilitation on his own, he recently has “started to blend into our practices,” Jones said.

An additional factor of uncertainty is Mason’s comfort as he resumes more regular basketball activities.

“It depends on how healthy he is,” Jones said. “Are you going to be nursing the foot, or is he 100 percent free to rock-and-roll? I have no idea. I’ll know that when he starts practicing every day and when he starts playing games … [But] if he’s healthy, and he can play to the level that he’s capable of, you’ll see him often and early.”

HARVARDDADGRAD
PhD Student
Posts 1096
02-13-18 06:53 PM - Post#247757    

Could Mason return this weekend?

His teammates have kept Yale in the race for the top 4 spots, but there are only 19 days and 6 games left.
PennFan10
PhD Student
Posts 1730
02-13-18 10:31 PM - Post#247781    

That seems like a lot of games over 19 days!
HARVARDDADGRAD
PhD Student
Posts 1096
02-14-18 12:24 AM - Post#247791    

Touche



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