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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 
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11-10-16 11:37 PM - Post#212927
How's this for an opening night for the Patriot League? Must be a record for top 25 opponents on the same day. Lafayette at #4 Villanova Army at #5 Oregon Lehigh at #7 Xavier Colgate at #19 Syracuse American at #25 Maryland Ohio State at Navy Manhattan at Bucknell Loyola-Maryland at Duquesne Boston U at Northeastern (Holy Cross opens at South Carolina on Sunday) |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-11-16 03:38 PM - Post#212992
IF we win tonight it we might be the only ones. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757 
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11-11-16 11:57 PM - Post#213078
Not sure where to post this, but JC Show got off to a great start leading Binghamton to a 68-62 win over Cornell. Show had 23 points and 6 rebounds. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800 
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11-12-16 01:24 AM - Post#213089
Probably, but Xavier only beat Lehigh by 3, and Maryland beat American by 6. The others were never in doubt. Army trails Oregon by 10 |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 
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11-15-16 10:20 PM - Post#213284
Ouch. Holy Cross goes down to Syracuse 90-46. This comes on top of a 81-49 loss at South Carolina the other day.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 
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11-16-16 12:51 PM - Post#213317
That hurts, but something tells me that HC will hit its stride just in time to play the Bison in the PL playoffs.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-17-16 05:16 PM - Post#213408
Pomeroy Rankings of the PL as of today. Overall ranking, followed by rank for offense, rank for defense, and rank for speed of play: 120 Lehigh . . 108 Offense . 151 Defense . 129 Pace of Play 175 Boston . . 116 Offense . 240 Defense . 118 Pace of Play 183 Bucknell . 161 Offense . 210 Defense . 162 Pace of Play 232 Colgate . . 242 Offense . 246 Defense . 292 Pace of Play 258 Holy Cross 231 Offense . 278 Defense . 349 Pace of Play 283 Navy . . . . 299 Offense . 248 Defense . 326 Pace of Play 292 Lafayette . 238 Offense . 321 Defense . 131 Pace of Play 294 Loyola . . . 307 Offense . 262 Defense . 336 Pace of Play 300 American . 321 Offense . 247 Defense . 346 Pace of Play 320 Army . . . . 313 Offense . 306 Defense . 31 Pace of Play The team immediately ahead of the Bison is DePaul. The team immediately behind them is George Mason.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-17-16 05:28 PM - Post#213410
Boston U plays their second game of the year tomorrow, hosting Northeastern. Their opening game was against . . . Northeastern. Makes it easy to do the scouting report. Travel budget pretty cheap too.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-17-16 09:22 PM - Post#213428
We'll see if Lehigh is for real tonight against Yale. Down 1 with 13:00 to play. Yale beat Washington 98-90 in their first game. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-17-16 10:06 PM - Post#213431
Lehigh & Yale to OT tied at 73. Lafayette & NJIT also going OT. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
11-17-16 11:13 PM - Post#213437
LU loses at Yale, while LC wins at home. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-18-16 12:28 AM - Post#213440
LU loses at Yale, while LC wins at home. Yale doing great so far. They lost preseason POY Macai Mason to a season-ending injury and still have two good wins to start the season.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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11-20-16 08:40 PM - Post#213652
Lehigh is 1-2 but has played well in every game against good competition. Lost to Xavier and Yale but defeated Princeton. Kempton averaging 26.5 per game. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548 
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11-20-16 08:59 PM - Post#213655
They won today without preseason all league guard Kahron Ross. His backup looked good, freshman named Cohen I think. Scary team. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-20-16 09:29 PM - Post#213658
They won today without preseason all league guard Kahron Ross. His backup looked good, freshman named Cohen I think. Scary team. Yes, LU looking very good. The PG is Jordan Cohen from California. Was also offered by the Bison shortly before he committed to Lehigh. Was not on the radar of most programs. Only other reported offer was from Army.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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11-23-16 06:57 AM - Post#213926
The Faithful at HC should be fired up after a win at Harvard: http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap/_/gameId/40 0918986
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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11-26-16 01:46 AM - Post#214097
Following Bucknell's lead, Lehigh gets its own win on an SEC court, beating Mississippi State by 14. Pomeroy had the Mountain Hawks ranked above the Bulldogs going into the game. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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11-26-16 11:37 AM - Post#214105
It is nice to see PL teams moving up the kenpom.com rankings. Hmmmm, winning will do that: #95 Lehigh #146 Bucknell #160 Boston U #220 HC #229 Colgate While I like seeing Lehigh in the top 100, I would LOVE to see the Bison break through the 100 barrier. It is going to be fun watching Bucknell, Boston U, and Lehigh play this season. Of course, HC will probably lurk on the outside and turn it on just in time for the PL tournament. GO Patriot League!
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-26-16 01:10 PM - Post#214107
Following Bucknell's lead, Lehigh gets its own win on an SEC court, beating Mississippi State by 14. Pomeroy had the Mountain Hawks ranked above the Bulldogs going into the game. It's been a good week for PL teams overall with Army beating Columbia, Loyola trouncing Fairfield, and Navy beating UMBC, in addition to the other wins already mentioned. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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11-26-16 01:30 PM - Post#214108
jkrun80, I could not agree more. Being a Philly hoops guy, it would be nice to see Navy beat UPenn in Annapolis today. For the life of me, I do not understand why there isn't a Philly Hoops channel on TV. They could show every game that involves a Big 5 team.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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11-26-16 03:59 PM - Post#214125
Nice day for PL hoops. All at half time: 1. Navy up 13 on UPenn 2. Army up 1 on Fairfield 3. Colgate down 16 to Columbia 4. American down 17 to St. Francis (PA) I would be happy if the PL can split these games. Loyola will probably get crushed by Creighton later on today.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-26-16 06:28 PM - Post#214148
Navy hung on to beat Penn 70-68. Army lost 75-74. Colgate came back to force OT, but lost 81-78. American also came back to lose by 7, 69-62. Loyola hanging with Creighton at the half 30-25. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
11-27-16 02:42 PM - Post#214183
Well Loyola was a no show in the 2nd half. Final 82-52 for Creighton. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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11-27-16 03:42 PM - Post#214185
If I told you that HC shot 55%, 58% behind the arch, and 90% from the line against Monmouth, you would probably guess that they won. Well . . . . they ended up losing by 3 (80-77). Monmouth had 7 more offensive rebounds and made 8 more freethrows. Tough loss.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-27-16 06:22 PM - Post#214191
If I told you Lehigh scored 89 pts at Arkansas St, with 30 from Kempton and 21 from Ross, you'd probably think they won big. Unfortunately, they lost by 8 after being down as much as 29 in the 2nd half. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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11-27-16 06:39 PM - Post#214192
Check this out: Holy Cross was up by 5 at home with 18 seconds to go, but Monmouth went on an 8-0 run to polish off the Crusaders 80-77. Here's how: --Old-fashioned three-point play by Monmouth --Five second violation by Holy Cross --Old-fashioned three-point play by Monmouth --Monmouth steals the ball, is fouled and hits both shots --Holy Cross misses three-pointer at the buzzer |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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11-27-16 06:52 PM - Post#214193
So they are 50% at game-tying 3 pointers in the final seconds in the past year. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-27-16 07:15 PM - Post#214194
Army suffered a similar fate yesterday. They were up 9 on Fairfield with under 2:00 to play and gave up 10 points to lose by 1. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gam etra... |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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11-28-16 01:47 PM - Post#214242
So they are 50% at game-tying 3 pointers in the final seconds in the past year. Ha...believe me, I couldn't type "Holy Cross" "three-pointer at the buzzer" without thinking of that shot! In a thinly-related observation, despite that fact that he was a junior, it wasn't until that fateful PL tourney game that I realized Malichi Alexander's first name is not pronounced like this. |
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11-28-16 01:59 PM - Post#214243
Wow, I wish I had those 32 seconds of my life back. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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11-28-16 02:03 PM - Post#214245
Aside from his iconic portrayal of the Fonz, it's a little known fact that Henry Winkler once held the scoring record at Central Methodist University in Missouri. Nah, just kidding, but I couldn't tie the Fonz to basketball. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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11-28-16 10:26 PM - Post#214283
Mr. Phillie, here is your hoops tie-in. Apparently Henry Winkler is a Wichita State Shockers fan: https://www.google.com/amp/thebiglead.com/2015/03/...
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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11-28-16 10:37 PM - Post#214286
Ha...nice! I recall Richie once was a short-lived basketball hero but really, Fonzie could've done whatever the heck he wanted. He was, after all, the Fonz. But back to Bucknell basketball, I can't wait to watch this improved team against Richmond. Win or lose, I just hope they play a really good game. Go Bison! |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
11-30-16 10:53 PM - Post#214521
Lehigh lost at LaSalle 89-81. Boston lost by 2 to UConn. Loyola beat Stony Brook 71-70 on a last second layup. Lafayette up 8 on Drexel with 10:00 to play. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
11-30-16 10:59 PM - Post#214524
Lehigh loses to Lasalle by 6, HC beats Albany, Army over FDU. LC leading Drexel. Shaping up as a good night for PL. Oh yes, Loyola wins too. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-02-16 10:05 PM - Post#214700
Colgate scored 101 points tonight vs the Citadel - and lost by seven! http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/boxsco...
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-03-16 12:31 AM - Post#214702
Colgate scored 101 points tonight vs the Citadel - and lost by seven! http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/boxsco... It must have been a hack-fest. Citadel scored 30 from the free throw line on 30 of 34 shooting.
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
12-03-16 12:08 PM - Post#214716
Sounds like "home court advantage." Colgate had 8 PT's via ft. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-06-16 10:01 PM - Post#215013
Navy was down 25 to Bryant a halftime, then scored 52 in the 2nd half to win by 2. WOW! Lehigh is down 1 to Stony Brook under a minute to play. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-06-16 10:11 PM - Post#215017
What is wrong with Lehigh? They lost by 5 to a team ranked #234 by kenpom.com. That is pathetic. Lehigh has to start representing the PL a whole lot better. They have too much talent to lose games like this.
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oldschoolbb54 Freshman Posts 44 |
12-07-16 08:41 PM - Post#215105
I'm watching Army vs Airforce, and they are giving it to AF. Army looks strong and running an up tempo offense. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-07-16 09:19 PM - Post#215109
I'm watching Army vs Airforce, and they are giving it to AF. Army looks strong and running an up tempo offense. I think Army is the PL's biggest surprise thus far. They list all five starters but don't appear to be a lot worse. They have two good frosh and a better coach.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-08-16 11:16 AM - Post#215175
The Lehigh board is talking about their school's plans to add 1,000 undergrads and 500-800 graduate students. Also, they indicated that Lafayette is looking to add 500 undergrads. Does Bucknell have any plans to grow in the 10-20% range? http://www.lehighsportsforum.com/forums/topic/lehi...
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-08-16 11:42 AM - Post#215183
I have heard that Bucknell plans to gradually grow to 4000, but have not seen that officially.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-08-16 12:27 PM - Post#215194
Officially, Bucknell is planning to add 200 students over the next 5-8 years. Most of those will be in the College of Management. From Bravman's report on the spring Trustee meeting: "After much deliberation, the Board approved an incremental, 200-student increase in undergraduate enrollment. We expect the increase to be fully realized in five to eight years." |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-08-16 10:01 PM - Post#215260
Binghamton beat Colgate last night 73-64. JC Show led Binghamton with 14 pts. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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12-09-16 02:23 PM - Post#215304
There's a film being made about the 1947 Holy Cross championship team: http://www.midmajormadness.com/2016/12/9/13900112/... |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
12-09-16 04:07 PM - Post#215320
I daresay, at the time, the 1954 NIT was the bigger deal of the two. The NIT was the major postseason tournament, and most were not even aware of the NCAA tourney. MSG was the Mecca of college hoops, and hosted the complete NIT tourney. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-09-16 05:08 PM - Post#215327
As many of you know, The coach who led HC to the NCAA title was Doggie Julian, Bucknell Class of 1923. He was a 3-sport star as a Bison and an All-American in football. After coaching HC, he also coached the Celtics and then Dartmouth. http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&...
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-09-16 09:26 PM - Post#215348
Watching Columbia at Navy. Navy looks much improved. The Kiernan kid is really good. He's their version of Zach Thomas. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-09-16 09:48 PM - Post#215349
Watching Columbia at Navy. Navy looks much improved. The Kiernan kid is really good. He's their version of Zach Thomas. It's hard to even evaluate Kiernan's level,of improvement, as he played only five minutes last year. Don't think there was any injury, just not good enough to make their top 12. That's one advantage of being able to bring in as many as 8 recruits in a year, and having a JV to,give them playing time. You never know who will develop. Think,Patrick King.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-10-16 08:23 AM - Post#215366
Who does Navy's JV team play against?
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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12-10-16 01:42 PM - Post#215376
Boston is tied 29-29 at Syracuse with 4:29 to go in the first half. The game is on the YES network for those who might be interested. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-10-16 01:49 PM - Post#215377
Who does Navy's JV team play against? Not sure about Navy. Army's JV used to play various prep schools and juco's.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-10-16 01:50 PM - Post#215378
Boston is tied 29-29 at Syracuse with 4:29 to go in the first half. The game is on the YES network for those who might be interested. Boston has a lot of talent, although they have had a lot of behavioral issues with Fanning.
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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12-10-16 03:02 PM - Post#215381
Syracuse was 6 at the half and ended up pulling away and winning 99-77 |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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12-10-16 05:26 PM - Post#215405
Good game on now...Lehigh at Mount St. Mary's http://www.necfrontrow.com/webcast.php/MSM-3974/ |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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12-10-16 05:29 PM - Post#215406
Lehigh was out to a big lead, but the Mount Mayhem is turning the Mountain Hawks over and over...Mount by 1 in first half. |
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12-10-16 07:03 PM - Post#215411
Lehigh pulled away in the second half, and won 90-71. Kempton had 31 points and 18 rebounds. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-11-16 09:45 AM - Post#215434
Kempton is a beast. I wonder if he has what it takes to make it in the NBA.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-11-16 04:36 PM - Post#215453
Kempton is a beast. I wonder if he has what it takes to make it in the NBA. I would bet he gets some looks. It will depend on whether he can sustain this all season. The success of McCollum and Muscala in the league should make teams take the PL a little more seriously. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-11-16 04:52 PM - Post#215455
I don't think Kempton right now is as good as MM was as a senior. MM was better defensively and a better rebounder. Kempton may have better post moves - but he won't be able to plat the post very often against NBA-level payers. MM also is a significantly better ball-handler. Had an assist,rate twice that of TK and a turnover rate half that of TK.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
12-11-16 08:33 PM - Post#215461
Kempton has no NBA future. He's simply not skilled enough. Great college player especially at low major level. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
12-12-16 12:14 AM - Post#215474
Syracuse was 6 at the half and ended up pulling away and winning 99-77 It was way above 30 at one point until Hankerson went off. He ended with 10 3's a carrier dome record for a visitor.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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12-13-16 04:56 PM - Post#215735
As if Tim Kempton weren't enough to worry about, last night Lehigh freshman Pat Andree hit TEN three-pointers, including his first 8 attempts from deep, as Lehigh trounced St Francis (PA) 100-67 (Kempton and Austin Price each had 21 points.) |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-13-16 05:01 PM - Post#215736
When I first saw that on espn.com, I thought that it was a typo. 10 threes is a lot of threes!
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-13-16 07:24 PM - Post#215756
Hope the Bison are working on their perimeter defense. First Hankerson, now this kid. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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12-14-16 10:58 PM - Post#215929
Lafayette 7-footer Sam Dunkum transferring to Creighton https://twitter.com/samdunkum13/status/80 913157076... |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-14-16 11:21 PM - Post#215933
Lafayette 7-footer Sam Dunkum transferring to Creighton https://twitter.com/samdunkum13/status/80 913157076... Dunkum was a project who missed all of last year with a knee injury and hadn't played a minute this year. Going to Creighton as a walk-on. In the "small world" department, an article mentioned that he would take over a practice spot for injured Zach Hanson. Hanson was a Bison recruit at one point and is the first cousin of Mike Muscala.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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12-20-16 02:19 PM - Post#216292
Don't look now, but the Bison are moving up KenPom.com's rankings. #126 as of today. Also, Lehigh is back in the top 100 at #98. The Rest: Boston U: 172 HC: 188 Army: 231 Loyola: 257 Navy: 270 Colgate: 285 American: 317 Lafayette: 327 It would be nice to see American and Lafayette move up the list a bit so that they are in the 200s and not the 300s.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-21-16 01:29 PM - Post#216366
As we approach the Christmas break, here is what the current Pomeroy predictions are for the final PL win totals in league (out of 18 games): Lehigh . . 13.6 Bucknell . 12.6 Boston . . 11.0 Holy Cross 10.3 Army . . . . 9.0 Loyola . . . 8.1 Navy . . . . 7.6 Colgate . . 7.2 American . 5.9 Lafayette . 4.8 Looks reasonable in most cases, although I expect American to do better. They have the league's top freshman, PG Nelson, and a very good freshman center. Delante Jones has been in a bit of a slump, but I think they will do better in league play. Boston U might be a threat to surpass 11 wins also. Army has been a huge surprise thus far. Can they keep it up?
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-21-16 04:56 PM - Post#216375
American plays at Villanova tonight. If they lose by less than 20, I'll be shocked. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-21-16 05:06 PM - Post#216376
American plays at Villanova tonight. If they lose by less than 20, I'll be shocked. Pomeroy makes Villanova a 31-point favorite. Whether they cover may depend on how long Jay Wright leaves in his starters.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-21-16 09:36 PM - Post#216390
Pomeroy was wrong. Nova wins by 42, 90-48. That's embarrassing. HC, Boston, & Army all leading in their games. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-21-16 09:41 PM - Post#216391
Speaking of blowouts, Lafayette women lost to Drexel 81-39. HC getting doubled up at Arizona St. 58-29 with 4:00 to play. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-21-16 10:04 PM - Post#216392
Speaking of blowouts, Lafayette women lost to Drexel 81-39. HC getting doubled up at Arizona St. 58-29 with 4:00 to play. 1. it should be noted that that is the same Drexel team that lost to the Bison by 12. So far the Teresa Grentz era at Lafayette is not going well. I suspect it will not end well either, although we won't know for a few years. 2. HC led Arizona 11-8 after the first quarter. Ended up losing by 30.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-30-16 02:38 PM - Post#217004
A couple of interesting match-ups tonight with HC@Boston and Lehigh@Army. Lehigh plays @ Boston on Monday. |
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12-31-16 01:34 AM - Post#217070
Boston University didn't score a field goal in the last 11 minutes of the game but beat Holy Cross 61-55 anyway. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-31-16 09:56 AM - Post#217079
Sounds like ours wasn't the only ugly game. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-31-16 11:05 AM - Post#217088
Boston University didn't score a field goal in the last 11 minutes of the game but beat Holy Cross 61-55 anyway. Amazingly for an 8-minute span, from 11:01 until 3 minutes remained, both teams only scored 3 points apiece.
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01-02-17 12:49 PM - Post#217184
FYI, Lehigh at Boston U is a 2pm tip, for those who'd like to see the clash of the pre-season #1 and #2. Latest Pomeroy Rankings 89 Lehigh 120 Bucknell 177 Boston University 192 Holy Cross 214 Army 242 Loyola 275 Navy 284 Colgate 318 American 334 Lafayette |
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01-02-17 01:06 PM - Post#217187
Always a little unsettling when other league teams have freshmen post phenomenal performances. You'll recall a couple weeks ago, Lehigh frosh Pat Andree hit on 10 of 12 three-pointers against St. Francis. And in case you missed it, on Friday, Colgate freshman forward Will Rayman scored 34 at Lafayette. |
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01-02-17 01:35 PM - Post#217188
Always a little unsettling when other league teams have freshmen post phenomenal performances. You'll recall a couple weeks ago, Lehigh frosh Pat Andree hit on 10 of 12 three-pointers against St. Francis. And in case you missed it, on Friday, Colgate freshman forward Will Rayman scored 34 at Lafayette. Rayman has had a couple of big games. Not sure about his all-around game, but he can really shoot it. Should be a shoo-in for the all-rookie team, although AU's Sa'ed Nelson looks like the ROY. Rayman had no offers when he completed his four years of HS. Opted to do a post-grad year, did well in summer AAU, and got a summer offer from CU for the following year.
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01-02-17 01:39 PM - Post#217189
Two items of note: - Holy Cross's top freshman, Tyrone Cohen, was expelled. No reason has been given, but he was not on the bench for most if the season. - Boston U suspended three players a couple of weeks ago: SG Cheddi Mosely, freshman forward Destin Barnes, who was off to a good start, and 7-0 center Blaise Mbargorba. No word on the reason or for how long.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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01-02-17 03:03 PM - Post#217192
This is not the thread for this post, but saw that CJ McCollum dropped a career high 43 in a win over Minnesota yesterday. He's averaging about 28 per game in Lillard's absence. So impressive the career he is having in the NBA. And he continues to seem like a super young man as well. |
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01-02-17 04:13 PM - Post#217201
Boston U leads 50-33 5 minutes into the second half |
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01-02-17 05:13 PM - Post#217208
Lehigh started a comeback with a 17-5 run, but falls short. Kempton was his usual self, scoring 16 I believe all in the first half. And complaining to the refs every chance he got. American beats Colgate in OT before a packed house at Cottrell (LOL) |
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01-02-17 05:53 PM - Post#217210
American missed SO many free throws to help Colgate force OT and almost win in the extra session. The Eagles hit just 13 of 31 attempts from the line. Colgate wasn't great from the stripe either, hitting 15 of 26. |
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01-02-17 06:02 PM - Post#217211
In case you watch a Colgate home game and wonder why there's a big number 13 in the keys: https://www.colgate.edu/about/colgates-origin s/tra... |
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01-02-17 06:45 PM - Post#217215
American missed SO many free throws to help Colgate force OT and almost win in the extra session. The Eagles hit just 13 of 31 attempts from the line. Colgate wasn't great from the stripe either, hitting 15 of 26. American is hitting 56.8% on FTs this year, dead last in the nation. Also barely above 28% on threes, which is 338th.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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01-02-17 06:52 PM - Post#217217
So what you're saying is, American should be a win. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-02-17 11:09 PM - Post#217233
So what you're saying is, American should be a win. I don't think that's what he's saying. And the game at American last season should have been a win and wasn't. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-03-17 09:05 PM - Post#217286
So what you're saying is, American should be a win. We "should" win every PL game. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-03-17 09:21 PM - Post#217287
So what you're saying is, American should be a win. I don't think that's what he's saying. And the game at American last season should have been a win and wasn't. Yes, definitely not what I'm saying. American has been underperforming and their shooting has been much worse than it should be, but they do have some talent and are capable of playing a lot better. Since Brennan has been their coach, they have always gotten better as the season went along. I certainly wouldn't take a road win there for granted. Last year, for example, AU began the season 2–15. From that point on they went 9-3, and then won their first round tournament game.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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01-03-17 09:47 PM - Post#217292
Yes, I was being a little facetious with my comment. However, if an opponent does shoot the ball that poorly, you should be able to get a win. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-05-17 08:58 AM - Post#217346
Yes, Lehigh, that is Bucknell in your review mirror. Kenpom.com: #100 Lehigh #115 Bucknell
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-05-17 12:01 PM - Post#217351
Yes, Lehigh, that is Bucknell in your review mirror. Kenpom.com: #100 Lehigh #115 Bucknell This is the highest the Bison have been since December 20, 2014. That was the year when they had close losses at Stanford and St. John's, plus good road wins at Penn State and Albany. However they collapsed in late December and much of January, and fell below #175.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-05-17 10:08 PM - Post#217420
Holy crap! Loyola was down double digits most of the game and came back to beat Lehigh by 1. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-05-17 10:36 PM - Post#217426
Holy crap! Loyola was down double digits most of the game and came back to beat Lehigh by 1. Trailed by nine with about 1:50 left. LU didn't make a FG for the last 3:30. Andre Walker hit a game-winning three with one second left.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-05-17 10:38 PM - Post#217427
Boston U crushed Navy at Annapolis. Had 19 steals. Right now Boston looks like the best team in the league, even with three players still suspended. It apparently was serious, as they have not been on the bench for a few weeks.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-05-17 10:41 PM - Post#217429
I was just thinking the same thing . . .
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-05-17 11:16 PM - Post#217431
By the way, the Bison have just resurfaced in Lunardi's bracketology. They are viewed as a 14 seed, playing Florida State at Orlando in the first round. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/bracke...
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-06-17 12:00 AM - Post#217440
As we approach the Christmas break, here is what the current Pomeroy predictions are for the final PL win totals in league (out of 18 games): Lehigh . . 13.6 Bucknell . 12.6 Boston . . 11.0 Holy Cross 10.3 Army . . . . 9.0 Loyola . . . 8.1 Navy . . . . 7.6 Colgate . . 7.2 American . 5.9 Lafayette . 4.8 Looks reasonable in most cases, although I expect American to do better. They have the league's top freshman, PG Nelson, and a very good freshman center. Delante Jones has been in a bit of a slump, but I think they will do better in league play. Boston U might be a threat to surpass 11 wins also. Army has been a huge surprise thus far. Can they keep it up? Latest Pomeroy projection for the PL standings: Bucknell . 14-4 Boston . . 13-5 Lehigh . . 12-6 Holy Cross 10-8 Loyola . . 9-9 Army . . . . 8-10 Colgate . 6-12 Navy . . . . 6-12 American 6-12 Lafayette 6-12
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
01-06-17 01:06 PM - Post#217464
RPI forecast has Bucknell 14-4 Lehigh 14-4 Boston 12-6 Army 10-8 Holy C. 9-9 Loyola 7-11 Navy 7-11 Colgate 6-12 American 6-12 Lafayette 4-14 for comparison.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-06-17 01:27 PM - Post#217467
Btw, RPIforecast.com uses Sagarin's predictor model for their W-L forecasts. It has not been updated for last nights games, so expect to see some movement especially with Lehigh and Army moving down and Lafayette moving up.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-06-17 10:16 PM - Post#217520
Boston U women came from behind to take the lead vs Navy, but couldn't finish. Their loss leaves the Bison alone in first. Six teams are tied at 2-1. Boston has already tied their league win total from last year. Their looking more like a mid-pack team than a doormat this year. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-06-17 10:20 PM - Post#217521
My mistake. Boston won 3 league games last year and 3 overall. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-07-17 01:23 AM - Post#217530
Boston U women came from behind to take the lead vs Navy, but couldn't finish. Their loss leaves the Bison alone in first. Six teams are tied at 2-1. Boston has already tied their league win total from last year. Their looking more like a mid-pack team than a doormat this year. There are several reasons for their improvement: 1 their coach is now in her third year and seems to be doing a good job. Their previous coach was a nightmare and was fired for cause. 2 They have a 6'5" transfer from Monmouth who is playing really well. That is the biggest difference. 3 They have a senior guard who missed much of last year with a knee injury, but has returned and is playing well. 4 Also have a sophomore forward who is greatly improved and a freshman forward who is playing well.
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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01-08-17 05:01 PM - Post#217759
After today's results: 4-0 Bucknell 4-0 Boston 2-2 Lehigh 2-2 Holy Cross 2-2 Lafayette 2-2 Loyola 1-3 American 1-3 Army 1-3 Colgate 1-3 Navy |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-08-17 05:59 PM - Post#217761
Kempton had a career-high 36 points in Lehigh's 6-point win over American at Stabler. The Mountain Hawks led by as many as 14 and it was starting to look like they might blow another one down the stretch. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-08-17 06:05 PM - Post#217763
Lehigh is a strange team. Going into the season, they really looked like the favorite to win it all. I still think that they have the talent to defeat any PL team especially if they stop relying on Kempton so much.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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01-08-17 06:07 PM - Post#217764
This isn't PL play, but did you catch the 14-point comeback by Nevada in the final minute? https://twitter.com/madness2017/status/81 814952747... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-08-17 06:59 PM - Post#217770
This isn't PL play, but did you catch the 14-point comeback by Nevada in the final minute? https://twitter.com/madness2017/status/81 814952747... More amazing that they scored 18 points in just over a minute because NM managed to score 4. The two banked 3's are just too much. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-08-17 07:47 PM - Post#217772
Pomeroy: 97 Bucknell 118 Lehigh |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-08-17 09:02 PM - Post#217781
Kempton had a career-high 36 points in Lehigh's 6-point win over American at Stabler. The Mountain Hawks led by as many as 14 and it was starting to look like they might blow another one down the stretch. Gasparini, American's freshman center, only played 10 minutes and fouled out. It's no wonder Kempton had a field day. He shot 18 FTs and made 14, plus went 11-17 from the field. Lehigh has been a menace at Sojka the past few years. Hope the boys are ready for this one. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-08-17 09:13 PM - Post#217782
BTW, Lehigh's bench only score 3 points against American. We certainly have the advantage in depth. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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01-08-17 09:32 PM - Post#217784
Matt Klinewski had another great game today for Lafayette with 34 points, 12/17 from the floor and 7 rebounds. He's quietly the leagues leading scorer in league play so far and is shooting 62.5% and averaging 25.5 points and 7 rebounds. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-08-17 10:06 PM - Post#217786
Pomeroy: 97 Bucknell 118 Lehigh I have always considered teams that are ranked #100 or better to be good and #50 or better to be very good. So, the Bison are good. When was the last time that the Bison were ranked better than #100?
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-08-17 10:45 PM - Post#217789
When was the last time that the Bison were ranked better than #100? They were ranked #90 on December 20th 2013, just prior to a bad loss to Marist that dropped them to 117. Early that year they had close road losses at Stanford and St John's, plus impressive road wins at PSU and Albany that got them as high as 63rd. However then they started a long run of mediocre play and fell to 184th after a bad loss at HC. They played better down the stretch and ended up 159th.
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
01-09-17 07:22 AM - Post#217792
I think BU, Bucknell, and Lehigh may break off like an iceberg, and then 4-10 will be decided by teams who steal road wins.. Loyola's win over Lehigh could be huge benefit to them down the road.. Great to finally get a password that works to chat with you guys again.. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-09-17 11:58 AM - Post#217804
Navy, please keep the info and thoughts coming. The more people who post the better!
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-09-17 12:49 PM - Post#217810
I think BU, Bucknell, and Lehigh may break off like an iceberg, and then 4-10 will be decided by teams who steal road wins.. Loyola's win over Lehigh could be huge benefit to them down the road.. Great to finally get a password that works to chat with you guys again.. Ahoy there, and welcome back. It does feel that way about the top three. Our Wednesday game versus Lehigh is huge; with Boston U having already beaten them and then handling Navy more easily than we, the Terriers seemingly have the claim to being top team in the league for the moment. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
01-09-17 12:58 PM - Post#217812
Boston's body of work in OOC is far less impressive than Bucknell's. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-09-17 03:05 PM - Post#217832
Boston's body of work in OOC is far less impressive than Bucknell's. Husky, I have heard this, but according to Kenpom.com, the Bison's strength of schedule is 160 and Boston U's 205. So, they really do not seem to be that far apart. According to realtimerpi.com, Bucknell's RPI strength of schedule is only 223 and Boston U's is 173. http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_patr_Men.html 137, please help interpret these numbers.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-09-17 05:03 PM - Post#217849
Boston's body of work in OOC is far less impressive than Bucknell's. Husky, I have heard this, but according to Kenpom.com, the Bison's strength of schedule is 160 and Boston U's 205. So, they really do not seem to be that far apart. According to realtimerpi.com, Bucknell's RPI strength of schedule is only 223 and Boston U's is 173. http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_patr_Men.html 137, please help interpret these numbers. Two comments: 1. Both Pomeroy and RPI ignore games with D2/D3 teams. When you add in Boston's game with Western New England, their ranking drop significantly. 2. RPI is very inaccurate for a number of reasons, one of them being that it ignores margin of victory in the calculation. Pomroy is much more accurate. Also note that if you are looking at Lehigh's strength of schedule, they would rank much lower if their game with Cabrini was factored in.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-09-17 05:07 PM - Post#217850
One other comment on the above. It is true that Bucknell's strength of schedule ranking is 160. But that ranking has been significantly reduced by playing four mediocre league opponents. If you look strictly at their out of conference schedule, i.e. the schedule that they had control over, their ranking is 105th.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-09-17 08:14 PM - Post#217869
One other comment on the above. It is true that Bucknell's strength of schedule ranking is 160. But that ranking has been significantly reduced by playing four mediocre league opponents. If you look strictly at their out of conference schedule, i.e. the schedule that they had control over, their ranking is 105th. Now, that is good info. 105 is pretty good. Do you happen to know Lehigh and Boston U's OOC strength of schedule rankings?
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
01-09-17 08:37 PM - Post#217873
I was actually just givIng the OOC's the eyeball test but that stats are great. A road win at Vandy and home over Richmond are better wins than any other team in the PL has in the OOC. Question becomes, who has Boston beat? |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-10-17 12:16 PM - Post#217902
This is probably a 2017-2018 topic, but I noticed that the HC board is talking about HC and Manhattan among other teams traveling to North Ireland for a December 2017 basketball tournament: http://wwlp.com/2017/01/05/american-c ollege-basket... http://www.bbc.com/sport/basketball/3762 1815 I have heard of tournaments in the Bahamas and Puerto Rico in December, but Northern Ireland is new to me. I would love to see Bucknell play in a tournament overseas sometime. I am fairly certain that it would not be difficult to convince Mrs. Bison89 to take a trip out of the country and see a little hoops while traveling.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-10-17 01:00 PM - Post#217909
Wow, that is indeed quite the change from the typical holiday tourney destination. My daydream for that is a Bucknell appearance in the Virgin Islands Paradise Jam, which this year included mid-majors Montana, Oral Roberts and Loyola-Chicago. However, I've never heard any buzz about the Bison seeking to participate in any of those destination tournaments. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-10-17 07:06 PM - Post#217942
If it ever happens, count me in!
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
01-10-17 08:25 PM - Post#217952
I would say their win over Lehigh is a better win than ours over Richmond, the Northeastern win is up there too.
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
01-12-17 08:17 AM - Post#218067
Navy wins third straight at Reitz Arena, 75-62. Navy Point-guard play improving, Ed Alade becoming a contributor in pivot, Shawn Anderson getting back to what he does best driving and dishing. Defense terrific in 2nd half holding Hounds to 34% |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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01-16-17 10:27 AM - Post#218471
Boston plays at Loyola tonight at 7:00 on CBS Sports network. Boston has a couple long road trips this week with this Loyola trip and their trip to Bucknell for Saturday's game. |
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DrBison Junior Posts 244 |
01-16-17 12:18 PM - Post#218478
Long trips indeed but I do understand they fly from Boston to games at Loyola, American, and Navy. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-16-17 08:38 PM - Post#218543
Great crowd at Loyola as hounds taking it o Boston in the early going. 30-16 with 7:13 in first. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-16-17 09:10 PM - Post#218544
Loyola up 12 at the half. Knock yourselves out hounds. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-16-17 09:47 PM - Post#218549
After leading by 17, Loyola goes scoreless for four minutes. Lead is down to 9. They're lucky it's not closer. |
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01-16-17 09:56 PM - Post#218550
Walker and Gregory are playing really well for Loyola! I hope they get it out of their system before playing the Bison. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-16-17 10:08 PM - Post#218551
Hounds using up most of that 19 point lead. BU had cut it to 4. Now 6. 35.6 to go. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-16-17 10:19 PM - Post#218552
Hounds hang on. They are now 3-3, with wins over BU and LU. Our best win to date is HC. This is a BIG week for us. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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01-16-17 10:31 PM - Post#218553
Wow, kind of surprising win for Loyola...but maybe not, they have some good players. Will be tough on Wednesday...maybe they'll be tired. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-16-17 10:33 PM - Post#218554
Boston U might've played better, but three point shooting decided the game. Boston was 1-18 from beyond the arc, while Loyola was 9-17. (Andre Walker was 9-12.). That's a 25-point difference simply from 3-point accuracy.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-16-17 10:38 PM - Post#218555
Boston continues to have three players suspended: freshman Destin Barnes, junior Cheddi Mosely, and senior Blaise Mgbargorba. They have not been on the bench for a month. Must be pretty serious.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-17-17 01:16 AM - Post#218562
KenPom after Monday games: 91 Lehigh 102 Bucknell 142 Boston University 199 Army 206 Holy Cross 229 Navy 249 Loyola 299 Colgate 308 American 339 Lafayette |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-17-17 01:46 AM - Post#218563
RPI ranks for Lehigh and Bucknell are close, which could be a league tourney seeding factor with a regular season tie between the two. As of now, RPIForecast projects the season will end with Lehigh ranked 92.1, Bucknell at 93.9 (and Boston University at 133.8). Of course, there are other tie-breakers before RPI, and other teams in the chase for the regular season crown. |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
01-19-17 09:01 AM - Post#218725
Another interesting night around the league...Monday -Wednesday turn around just brutal to Loyola and BU last night.. Navy's bench scores 40 and HC posts 85!!! As always, when you think you know, you figure out we just don't know... Conference Play |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-19-17 11:22 AM - Post#218742
Another interesting night around the league...Monday -Wednesday turn around just brutal to Loyola and BU last night.. Navy's bench scores 40 and HC posts 85!!! What is even more amazing is the way the 3 underdogs won: 1. Colgate fell behind on the road 15-2 early, and at that point had a 3% chance of winning (Pomeroy). But they ended up winning by a good margin. 2. Navy trailed Lehigh 54-43 with 13 minutes left. Had a 7% win probability at that point. 3. HC trailed Army on the road 56-39 early in the second half. At that point, they had a 3% chance to win. But they ended up winning by a wide margin.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-19-17 11:45 AM - Post#218754
Women's games were equally strange. Lehigh came back from 18 down in the 1st half. Had a 1 point lead and the ball with 2.2 seconds left and lost. Boston came back from 12 down at the start of the 4th quarter to force OT. Eventually lost in 2OT to Colgate 96-87. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-19-17 12:09 PM - Post#218758
RPI ranks for Lehigh and Bucknell are close, which could be a league tourney seeding factor with a regular season tie between the two. As of now, RPIForecast projects the season will end with Lehigh ranked 92.1, Bucknell at 93.9 (and Boston University at 133.8). Of course, there are other tie-breakers before RPI, and other teams in the chase for the regular season crown. Kenpom.com rankings are just as close with Lehigh at #95 and Bucknell at #98. It is a fun but strange PL this year.
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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01-19-17 01:19 PM - Post#218764
ESPN released their first BPI rankings this morning: 103 Lehigh 118 Bucknell 143 Boston 205 Holy Cross 212 Navy 246 Army 265 Loyola 278 Colgate 281 American 336 Lafayette |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-21-17 06:17 PM - Post#218958
Navy started league play 0-3, but has won five straight to vault into the second-place tie (which, if Lehigh beats Lafayette tonight and Holy Cross beats American Monday, will be a four-way tie). Mids were down at Army, but went to OT and outscored Army in the extra session 21-5. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-21-17 06:40 PM - Post#218963
Mids were down at Army, but went to OT and outscored Army in the extra session 21-5. Army actually trailed by 10 points with 1:15 left in regulation before miraculously rallying to tie it. With the crowd at Cristl going nuts, Navy then proceeded to blow them out.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-21-17 07:11 PM - Post#218964
Thanks for the clarification...I had seen where Army was up 7 at the half. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-21-17 08:12 PM - Post#218974
DEVELOPING STORY: Kempton lets his bun down for Lafayette game which is now underway. https://campusinsiders.com/network/patriot-leagu e-... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-21-17 10:02 PM - Post#219025
Navy started league play 0-3, but has won five straight to vault into the second-place tie (which, if Lehigh beats Lafayette tonight and Holy Cross beats American Monday, will be a four-way tie). Mids were down at Army, but went to OT and outscored Army in the extra session 21-5. When I saw that the final score was 96-80 in OT, I thought that it was typo. Unbelievable.
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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01-21-17 10:05 PM - Post#219030
Lehigh ekes out win over Lafayette. Lindner was deadly |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
01-23-17 11:53 AM - Post#219132
Early in the season we did not have a lot of guys for practice and outside of 8 who had the flu and did not go Thursday or Friday before the Army game, we finally have a full compliment and getting scoring more consistently now. Our margin for error is never great,but, our kids are playing hard, Dulin had 21-17 Saturday. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-23-17 05:40 PM - Post#219156
Navy is a scary team this year VONS. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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01-23-17 07:04 PM - Post#219170
CBS Sports tonight: American at Holy Cross at 7 |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
01-25-17 12:36 PM - Post#219292
Not sure how scary we are, we just play hard and do attempt to defend. Some schools now in NCAA, defense is optional. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-25-17 10:04 PM - Post#219442
Army and Boston to OT. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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01-26-17 12:20 AM - Post#219465
With the losses by American and Holy Cross today, teams that play in the Monday TV game are now 0-4 in their next game on Wednesday. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-26-17 02:01 AM - Post#219470
Army and Boston to OT. Boston managed to win in OT despite one of the stupidest fouls in the history of basketball by loose cannon Eric Fanning. Army, trailing by two, got a rebound off a missed Boston FT with a couple of seconds left. Passed out near half court right on the sideline to Jacob Kessler who had to catch and shoot without a dribble. Fanning, with no chance to block the shot - and with no reason to try - crashed into Kessler from the side after he had released the shot (heave). That sent Mammel to the line for three shots, needing two to tie it and three to win. He made the first but unfortunately missed the next two. Pressure. Highlights: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=drZQqMNHJjE
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
01-26-17 10:09 AM - Post#219487
Conference play, you just never know. Navy trailed for :32 seconds at AU where they had not won in 9 years.. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-26-17 01:52 PM - Post#219522
Both Bucknell (94) and Lehigh (100) are in the Kenpom.com top 100. I don't think that this happened earlier this season. So, when was the last time that the PL had two teams in the top 100?
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-26-17 02:13 PM - Post#219527
Both Bucknell (94) and Lehigh (100) are in the Kenpom.com top 100. I don't think that this happened earlier this season. So, when was the last time that the PL had two teams in the top 100? My guess is 2011-12. Maybe early in 2012-13 before McCollum got hurt. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-26-17 09:07 PM - Post#219587
In no way taking away from your point that it has been quite some time since two PL teams were in the top 100, I do believe that briefly within the past few weeks that LU was ranked 96 and BU (us) was ranked 98. Might've been 95 and 97, but we were right on their tail and we were both high 90s. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-27-17 08:45 AM - Post#219604
63, you might be right. I was not trying to make a point that it was MANY YEARS ago. I was just stating that it has been a while. It was common in the 2005-2008 range for both Bucknell and HC to be ranked in the top 100. Does anybody remember the final RPI for both teams the year that they both finished with 1 loss in the PL and HC edged out Bucknell based on RPI?
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
01-27-17 09:11 AM - Post#219605
Im not sure the TV exposure of a "Monday" game when your going up against Big Monday on ESPN, you're mainly attracting friends and family. Sunday, sure, maybe you pick up a few more, plus kids can can still get to class Monday, Monday means you travel Tuesday, miss classes at least two days in a row.... |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-27-17 12:02 PM - Post#219618
Im not sure the TV exposure of a "Monday" game when your going up against Big Monday on ESPN, you're mainly attracting friends and family. Sunday, sure, maybe you pick up a few more, plus kids can can still get to class Monday, Monday means you travel Tuesday, miss classes at least two days in a row.... Yes, I doubt ratings are very high. As for missed classes, I don't know how Navy handles it, but Bucknell players only miss one day of class for any PL road game. For a Wednesday game, they leave campus late afternoon Tuesday and return immediately after the game. Etc.
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01-27-17 12:55 PM - Post#219624
It was common in the 2005-2008 range for both Bucknell and HC to be ranked in the top 100. Does anybody remember the final RPI for both teams the year that they both finished with 1 loss in the PL and HC edged out Bucknell based on RPI? For the 3-year period ending in 2007, here was the final RPI (after the PL tournament) for both Bucknell and HC: 2005 - BU 63, HC 66 2006 - BU 44, HC 111 2007 - HC 63, HC 79 Prior to the 2007 tournament, the RPI, used as the tiebreaker, was HC 67, BU 84. Those who haven't been fortunate enough to erase it from their memory bank will recall that the Bison destroyed their RPI with a loss to a weak Central Arkansas team just after Christmas. Had the Bison won that game and then beat Marist in the tournament final, they would've ended up with a better RPI than HC and hosted the championship game 10 weeks later. At that point, Buchnell had won 35 consecutive PL games in Sojka, so they would have been a clear favorite to win it. Btw, the loss to Cental Arkansas dropped the BU RPI from 98 to 144 in one day! The PL class that was seniors in 2007 probably still ranks as the #1 recruiting class ever - even though Army and Navy were weak; Colgate and Lafayette were still non-scholarship; and the league was only eight teams. Included in that class were McNaughton, Badmus, Donald Brown, Keith Simmons, Tory Thomas, Andre Ingram, Jose Olivero, Kendall Chones, Jon Simon, Matt Bell, and others. Four of the five who made the all-rookie team were also 1st team All-PL as seniors - the only time that has happened - and those four all were 1st team at least twice.
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nitlion Masters Student Posts 413 |
01-27-17 01:01 PM - Post#219625
Lehigh and Lafayette games on a Wed, Men and Women teams travel the afternoon of the game. |
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mcapodee Sophomore Posts 156 |
01-27-17 02:20 PM - Post#219637
Had the Bison won that game and then beat Marist in the tournament final, they would've ended up with a better RPI than HC and hosted the championship game 10 weeks later. At that point, Buchnell had won 35 consecutive PL games in Sojka, so they would have been a clear favorite to win it. Does anyone else remember the D-Brown put-back dunk with about 10 minutes left in that game? It either pulled it even or made it a one possession game after being down double digits the whole game. The HC fans looked stunned. One of the indelible memories from the mid-2000s run. Shame we ran out of steam after the comeback. |
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01-27-17 02:55 PM - Post#219639
Prior to the 2007 tournament, the RPI, used as the tiebreaker, was HC 67, BU 84. Those who haven't been fortunate enough to erase it from their memory bank will recall that the Bison destroyed their RPI with a loss to a weak Central Arkansas team just after Christmas. Had the Bison won that game and then beat Marist in the tournament final, they would've ended up with a better RPI than HC and hosted the championship game 10 weeks later. At that point, Buchnell had won 35 consecutive PL games in Sojka, so they would have been a clear favorite to win it. Btw, the loss to Cental Arkansas dropped the BU RPI from 98 to 144 in one day! The Bison89 family was at the Central Arkansas debacle. It was the 1st game of the Marist Pepsi Christmas Tournament. At that time, it was the biggest win in the history of Central Arkansas which IIRC, was either just transitioning to D1 or had recently done so. The beers that night did not taste anywhere near as good as they should have.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-27-17 05:23 PM - Post#219660
Had the Bison won that game and then beat Marist in the tournament final, they would've ended up with a better RPI than HC and hosted the championship game 10 weeks later. At that point, Buchnell had won 35 consecutive PL games in Sojka, so they would have been a clear favorite to win it. Does anyone else remember the D-Brown put-back dunk with about 10 minutes left in that game? It either pulled it even or made it a one possession game after being down double digits the whole game. The HC fans looked stunned. One of the indelible memories from the mid-2000s run. Shame we ran out of steam after the comeback. I remember it well. Just checked the game article and box score and see that it came with 8:04 left and pulled the Bison to within 51-49. They trailed 46-27 early in the second half, before going on a 13-0 run to close to within six. Then after dropping behind by nine, they out scored HC 7-0, culminated by the DB dunk. Then tied it at 53-53 a couple of minutes later, before the play I think decided the game. Badmus stole the ball from Simmons and was on his way to a breakaway layup that would have given the Bison their first lead and major momentum. but Thomas stepped on the back of Abe's foot. He was clearly hurting and missed both FT's. Then was limping on defense, committed a foul, and was subbed out for awhile. HC went on a 7-0 run and the game was effectively over. For those who weren't there, it was an incredible turnout of Bison fans, occupying 1/3 of the seats in the Hart - the only time in PL history where a visiting team used their entire allotment, despite the distance from Lewisburg.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-28-17 07:44 PM - Post#219739
Bizarre game in Easton today. - Loyola jumps out to a 22-4 lead after 9 minutes. - Loyola then out-scores LC 15-5 over the next 5 minutes for a 37-9 lead. At that point, LC had gone 3-17 from the floor and committed 6 turnovers. - For the final six minutes of the half, LC out-scores Loyola 21-4 to close the halftime gap to 41-30. - LC then starts the second half with a 27-7 run to close the gap to 48-47 after 10 minutes of the second half. At that point, they had out scored Loyola 38-11 for a 16 minute span. - Loyola then goes on a 17-5 run to lead by 13. - LC closes to within 5 points late, but ultimately loses 70-62. Onetime Bison recruit Cam Gregory had what must be his best statistical game ever - 21 points and 14 rebounds. Andre Walker's shooting slump continued, as he shot 1-13. Loyola is now tied with Holy Cross at 5-5. HC lost badly at Navy.
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01-29-17 08:14 PM - Post#219844
In the next four days, two huge match-ups among the second-place contenders: BU at Lehigh tomorrow night on CBS Sports, and Navy at BU on Thursday on Patriot League Network. Churn, baby, churn. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-30-17 08:15 PM - Post#219964
Boston is stinking up Stabler. 0-5, 4 TOs at the first media timeout. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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01-30-17 08:22 PM - Post#219967
Pat Andre left with a shoulder injury, would be a big loss for them if he misses time. He real good in the pick and pop game with his ability to shoot the 3 |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-30-17 08:23 PM - Post#219968
Then a 12-0 run to go up by 4 and Lehigh struggling. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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01-30-17 08:28 PM - Post#219969
Pat Andre left with a shoulder injury, would be a big loss for them if he misses time. He real good in the pick and pop game with his ability to shoot the 3 And he's back, didn't look good when it happened |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-30-17 08:33 PM - Post#219970
Now a 22-3 run and another Lehigh turnover. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-30-17 08:54 PM - Post#219972
Very mediocre crowd at Stabler, especially for a TV game. Boston U up by 9 at the half. Fanning and Hankerson 3-13 from the field - with many of them open looks - or it could be all but over.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-30-17 09:42 PM - Post#219981
Can we call this a rout yet? Don't see Lehigh making up 22 points in 8 minutes. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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01-30-17 09:43 PM - Post#219982
Man, watching a little Lehigh-Boston....Lehigh looks horrible... |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-30-17 09:44 PM - Post#219983
LU really laying an egg at home. Down by 22 with under 8 to go. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-30-17 09:52 PM - Post#219984
Lehigh has now dropped into fourth place. They are not the team I would want to face in the semi finals. They have underachieved, and are not well coached, but they have a great amount of talent that can come to the fore in any one game setting.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-30-17 09:59 PM - Post#219985
Lehigh has now dropped into fourth place. They are not the team I would want to face in the semi finals. They have underachieved, and are not well coached, but they have a great amount of talent that can come to the forebin any one game setting. Too early to worry about that. We need to beat them whenever or wherever we play. |
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DrBison Junior Posts 244 |
01-30-17 10:45 PM - Post#219988
Sure didn't show a great amount of talent tonight. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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01-30-17 10:58 PM - Post#219989
Sure didn't show a great amount of talent tonight. No - but they did when they played the Bison. With ND coaching LU, they might well be 9-1 in league. Reed is not very good - and LU's underperformance this year may prevent him from moving up. Very good recruiter though.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
01-30-17 11:27 PM - Post#219994
Dr. Reed is a good recruiter but X's and O's elude the good Dr. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
01-30-17 11:50 PM - Post#219996
Brett Reed sounds a lot more professorial than Joe Jones, but Jones took him to school tonight...again. If we should come up against LU in the playoffs, we may want to ask that the game be played at Stabler. We dominate at Sojka, except against LU. Mountain Hawks plummeted to 116 in Pomeroy as a result of tonight's loss. Boston rose to 155. We are holding at 89. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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01-31-17 11:29 AM - Post#220009
Lehigh has now dropped into fourth place. They are not the team I would want to face in the semi finals. They have underachieved, and are not well coached, but they have a great amount of talent that can come to the fore in any one game setting. 137, I could not agree more. Even with their poor performance as of late, they are the PL team that scares me the most. They have too much talent to take lightly. On any given night, they have the potential to be the best team in the PL (other than Bucknell!).
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-01-17 07:27 PM - Post#220085
Lehigh plays @ Loyola tonight on a short 2-day turnaround. Loyola came from behind to win by 1 at Stabler. A loss drops Lehigh to 5th behind Loyola since they would have swept the series. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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02-01-17 10:37 PM - Post#220102
Down goes Lehigh. Teams that play in the TV game Monday are now 0-5 on Wednesday |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-01-17 10:42 PM - Post#220106
Down goes Lehigh. Teams that play in the TV game Monday are now 0-5 on Wednesday And we get our chance the next two weeks in a row. Hope the guys are ready. HC on Monday, @ Lehigh on Wednesday. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-01-17 10:42 PM - Post#220107
Boston and Navy play tomorrow for sole possession of 2nd. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-01-17 11:35 PM - Post#220113
Lehigh, with a 6-5 record, is now tied for 4th, 5th, and 6th. Would love to see them end up as the 6 seed- biur I doubt it will happen.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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02-01-17 11:55 PM - Post#220114
At least Lehigh losing so often should be a kick to Kempton's ego. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-02-17 12:04 AM - Post#220115
At least Lehigh losing so often should be a kick to Kempton's ego. At the moment, he is probably alternating between whining and blaming his teammates.
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A Western Bison Sophomore Posts 179 |
02-02-17 02:02 AM - Post#220119
Playing the 11/12 man rotation may help with those Monday/ Wednesday swings. Is it better to have both of those Monday games as they are, in Lewisburg? |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-02-17 11:23 AM - Post#220128
Zach hit some key shots to re-establish our dominance the couple of times AU got within 10. He was, as he has been before, key in the clutch. That said, I am more and more seeing Kimbal Mac emerge as a key, if not yet THE key player on this team. Right now Nana, Zach and Mac are the big 3, with a strong cast of supporting partners. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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02-02-17 04:24 PM - Post#220153
Methinks you neglect #2. Mr. Brown got us rolling last night and made some key defensive plays as well. |
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02-02-17 05:22 PM - Post#220156
I'm curious to see how tonight's second-place, Navy at Boston University showdown goes (7pm, Patriot League Network). In their first meeting, BU won at Navy 71-53, and Navy hasn't lost since. Loser will be in sole possession of third place. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-02-17 05:34 PM - Post#220160
Methinks you neglect #2. Mr. Brown got us rolling last night and made some key defensive plays as well. Good point! |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-02-17 08:53 PM - Post#220177
BU rallies from 9 down to take a 2 point lead, then commits a flagrant foul and gives up a 3 in the last 2.5 seconds to go into the half down 3. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-02-17 10:08 PM - Post#220180
Who has the longest winning streak in the PL? Hint: it is not Bucknell. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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02-02-17 11:40 PM - Post#220191
That'd be Navy, with a 70-61 win tonight, at 8 games |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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02-02-17 11:45 PM - Post#220192
Navy has the longest winning streak in the PL. Navy 70 BU 61.
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A Western Bison Sophomore Posts 179 |
02-03-17 01:23 AM - Post#220198
And the Monday night curse continues. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-03-17 12:35 PM - Post#220233
Time for that streak to end! |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
02-03-17 06:54 PM - Post#220294
In fairness, they did get an extra day! Both teams were chippy and physical. Navy playing with great togetherness, and simply making shots and defending their rear ends off. Key to this game though, was essentially Big East/A-10 officiating crew. Tim Kelly, Jeff Clark, and Paul Faia, shut down the chippy stuff each time it started up. Never let it get out of control. You get that playing on a Thursday night. Not getting that crew on Wednesday or Saturday. Lot of hoop still to go. On to Hamilton for Navy tomorrow. |
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Bison7882 Junior Posts 253
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02-04-17 04:46 PM - Post#220416
'Gate holds on to beat Navy, 55-52. A good result for the Bison! |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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02-04-17 04:58 PM - Post#220417
With the Navy loss, teams playing with one day of rest are 0-6 now in league play. 2.5 game lead with for Bucknell with 7 games to go, things are looking good for the Bison. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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02-05-17 12:57 PM - Post#220594
Well, the big Sunday is finally here: Lafayette at BU tips at noon on CBS Sports. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-05-17 01:03 PM - Post#220595
Boston not only continues to have three players suspended - getting close to 8 weeks now - but now Nick Havener, a solid PF/C was benched for disciplinary reasons as well. Sounds like Havener won't be out as long.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-05-17 02:54 PM - Post#220608
Lafayette led Boston 41 to 40 at the half, and I thought there might be a chance for the bison to get some help. Unfortunately Lafayette then went scoreless for the first 8:45 of the second half. The game is not over, but Lafayette now trails by 20. With time winding down, LC has scored 12 points in the second half. Btw, Havener is still not playing - nor are the other three suspended players.
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
02-06-17 07:48 AM - Post#220642
Max Mahoney is better than Havener and was a hot commodity with PL schools. Tough 41-hour turnaround for Navy. Had nothing early in the game, and yet still had chance to win down 1 with under :30 left. Loyola is still the dark horse here. Walker is really good, when he is going, they are tough. Bucknell, still, the class of the group right now. |
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02-06-17 10:55 AM - Post#220648
Max Mahoney is better than Havener and was a hot commodity with PL schools. Mahoney was a hot PL commodity, and he will ultimately be better than Havener. However I don't think he is as good now, nor does Joe Jones. In PL games, Havener averages about 19 mpg, while Mahoney gets closer to 11 mpg. And Havener almost always plays ahead of Mahoney. The difference is at the defensive end. Havener plays pretty good defense and is Boston's leading shot blocker. Mahoney is weak at the defensive end and commits an incredible 8 fouls per 40 minutes. He also almost never blocks a shot. Havener is also shooting almost 65% for the year.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-06-17 04:43 PM - Post#220705
Caught a few minutes of the American-Lehigh game on Saturday. The commentators were discussing the fact that the Lehigh players don't talk to each other on the floor - no communication at all. And people think our team has a chemistry issue? Is it any wonder they are under performing? |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-06-17 07:04 PM - Post#220717
Might be because they can't out-elocute Dr Reid. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-07-17 08:34 PM - Post#220869
Only 2 games separate 2nd and 7th. It's going to be an interesting 3 weeks. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-08-17 10:30 PM - Post#221076
Navy and Boston both win close ones. Back within 2 games. Those are going to be big games for the Bison. |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
02-09-17 11:06 AM - Post#221099
Navy has now swept Loyola 3 years in a row. Loyola actually stayed in Annapolis and shot around yesterday morning at Navy. Was as physical and as much energy we have seen Loyola in any of the match ups. Jones is so good, they don't use him enough IMO. Leading scorer for the Mids last night was on watch from 2-5am.. Service Academy life.. |
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02-10-17 01:43 AM - Post#221188
The Sunday, Feb 19 Bucknell at BU game has been selected to air on CBS Sports Network. http://www.patriotleague.org/news/2017/2/9/MBB_020 ... |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-10-17 11:09 AM - Post#221200
The Sunday, Feb 19 Bucknell at BU game has been selected to air on CBS Sports Network. http://www.patriotleague.org/news/2017/2/9/MBB_020 ... Hopefully they also pick up the Bison home game the following Saturday against Navy. That is by far the best game that day. The only other decent game is Boston playing at holy cross, and that clearly is not nearly as interesting a game.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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02-10-17 11:31 AM - Post#221202
The Sunday, Feb 19 Bucknell at BU game has been selected to air on CBS Sports Network. http://www.patriotleague.org/news/2017/2/9/MBB_020 ... That is great, but Mrs. Bison89 just booked a ski trip for our family that weekend. I will have to find an excuse to hang out in the lodge for a couple of hours on Sunday.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-12-17 01:59 PM - Post#221512
Holy Cross up 3 on Lehigh at the half. |
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
02-12-17 02:27 PM - Post#221521
Lehigh rattled by holy cross zone D! Kempton got a T for jawing with the officials. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-12-17 02:41 PM - Post#221531
Kempton is at his worst behavior-wise - whining, and blaming teammate's and officials. HC up 12 with 8 left Once again Lehigh seems baffled by a zone.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-12-17 02:51 PM - Post#221535
HC now up 19 with 4:00 to play 56-37. Lehigh shooting 28%, 22% from 3. |
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02-12-17 03:15 PM - Post#221546
Wow, Kempton looked positively miserable sitting on that bench with the towel around his head for an extended duration near the end. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-12-17 03:25 PM - Post#221553
The T on Kempton was clearly the turning point. That got HC energized and put Lehigh into a funk. This makes Wednesday's game with Navy all the more interesting. |
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02-12-17 03:31 PM - Post#221555
More cracks formed today in the prospects for Kempton earning player of the year honors. On a Sunday game, were all the league coaches watching Kempton's performance and observing his demeanor and interaction with teammates? |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-12-17 04:32 PM - Post#221580
More cracks formed today in the prospects for Kempton earning player of the year honors. On a Sunday game, were all the league coaches watching Kempton's performance and observing his demeanor and interaction with teammates? If the award is based solely on the numbers, Kempton wins hands down. If it is based on who contributes the most to their team's success, Zach or Nana are more deserving. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-12-17 04:41 PM - Post#221584
More cracks formed today in the prospects for Kempton earning player of the year honors. On a Sunday game, were all the league coaches watching Kempton's performance and observing his demeanor and interaction with teammates? If the award is based solely on the numbers, Kempton wins hands down. If it is based on who contributes the most to their team's success, Zach or Nana are more deserving. Yes. But only if the Bison hold on for 1st.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-12-17 04:43 PM - Post#221586
The Lehigh fans are not happy with the coaching of Doctor Reed, nor with the passion of their players. http://www.lehighsportsforum.com/forums/topic/holy...
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-12-17 06:05 PM - Post#221594
More cracks formed today in the prospects for Kempton earning player of the year honors. On a Sunday game, were all the league coaches watching Kempton's performance and observing his demeanor and interaction with teammates? There are five players who have won multiple POY awards. These are the five and what they did in the tournament: 1 Adonal Foyle - CU won two titles. 2. Brian Ehlers - LC won two titles. 3. CJ McCollum - LU won two titles. 4. Mike Muscala - BU won two titles. 5. Tim Kempton - last chance for one.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-12-17 06:44 PM - Post#221601
Keep in mind, Lehigh was a near unanimous pick to win the league. And here they are mired in 4th with 4 games to play. Great players make the players around them better. Kempton does not. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
02-12-17 06:55 PM - Post#221603
Well said |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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02-12-17 07:26 PM - Post#221606
Keep in mind, Lehigh was a near unanimous pick to win the league. And here they are mired in 4th with 4 games to play. Great players make the players around them better. Kempton does not. For those who have forgotten, Lehigh was one vote short of being a unanimous pick. This is what the poll results looked like: 2016-17 Patriot League Preseason Poll Points 1. Lehigh (17 first place votes) 161 2. Boston University (3) 139 3. Bucknell 132 4. Holy Cross 115 5. American 86 6. Colgate 83 7. Loyola Maryland 69 8. Navy 49 9. Lafayette 43 10. Army West Point 23 The biggest underachievers, based on the poll, are Lehigh and American, although American has a bit of an excuse having lost a big man to injury. Navy is clearly the biggest overachiever, with the Bison being second in that category.
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02-12-17 09:28 PM - Post#221623
Lehigh scored only 45 points! That is crazy. Whatever HC did, I hope that Coach Davis studies and learns from the game film.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
02-12-17 09:57 PM - Post#221629
We have the ability to play a strong zone. I'm not sure what the thinking is but I'm not a Division I basketball coach either. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-12-17 10:11 PM - Post#221632
Lehigh scored only 45 points! That is crazy. Whatever HC did, I hope that Coach Davis studies and learns from the game film. They were down 61-39 until both coaches cleared the bench with 1:30 to play. They were stuck on 35 for more than 5 minutes from 10:28 to 5:10. I don't know if it was the HC defense, but Lehigh's shooting was terrible. |
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02-12-17 10:42 PM - Post#221637
Lehigh scored only 45 points! That is crazy. Whatever HC did, I hope that Coach Davis studies and learns from the game film. They were down 61-39 until both coaches cleared the bench with 1:30 to play. They were stuck on 35 for more than 5 minutes from 10:28 to 5:10. I don't know if it was the HC defense, but Lehigh's shooting was terrible. I think a lot of it was the HC zone. Every Lehigh loss in league play this year has been against a team that used primarily zone. They don't seem to have any idea how to attack one.
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02-12-17 10:54 PM - Post#221638
Every Lehigh loss in league play this year has been against a team that used primarily zone. They don't seem to have any idea how to attack one. Meanwhile, at this very moment in Bethlehem, Dr Reed is typing "how to beat a zone defense" into a Google search box. |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
02-13-17 07:30 AM - Post#221648
Holy Cross at times in that 1-3-1 can put great length on the floor to make it hard to shoot over. You must breakdown the top of the defense and attack the 1-3-1 to the short corners. That man must be willing passer so he can attack or pass out of the short corner to opposite side. Once you fall behind against HC, you are in trouble since they are one of the slowest playing teams in the country. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
02-13-17 07:31 AM - Post#221649
Hahahahahahahahahaha! The good Dr. knows all. |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
02-13-17 10:21 AM - Post#221666
Updated RPI as of this morning.. Bucknell 85 Lehigh 116 navy 185 BU 188 |
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02-13-17 11:05 AM - Post#221681
RPI is fun to follow. It is a fairly good indication of overall league strength and where each individual team stands. As always, it is all going to come down to the PL Tournament. The NIT is nice, but I really want to dance this year. Go Bison!
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
02-13-17 07:57 PM - Post#221754
One point iof clarification however. If you were a PL team and had a choice of Thomas or Foulland on your roster, who picks Thomas? IMHO no one. Foulland is the alternative MVP of the PL. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-14-17 09:58 AM - Post#221784
Yes! Taking nothing away from Zach, big strong centers are a precious commodity in the PL. |
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02-14-17 05:47 PM - Post#221818
Remaining games for top contenders: BUCKNELL (12-2): @Loyola, @BostonU, Lafayette, Navy BOSTON (10-4): @Colgate, Bucknell, @Army, @Holy Cross NAVY (10-4): @Lehigh, Army, American, @Bucknell LEHIGH (8-6): Navy, @Lafayette, Colgate, Army |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
02-14-17 07:17 PM - Post#221824
Neither Zach or Nana have a good handle though. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-14-17 09:50 PM - Post#221837
Neither Zach or Nana have a good handle though. I would agree that Zach has a lot of turnovers for his position at 82. Looking at comparable players, Jarred Jones has 66 for example. Zach has far more than last year as well. I disagree about Nana though. He has 58 compared to 80 for Kempton. Given the amount he touches the ball and the number of double-teams, he does all right. |
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02-14-17 10:14 PM - Post#221841
I think these comments are a bit unfair to Zach. He is asked to make a lot of tough entry passes to Nana, passes that no other PF in the league is asked to attempt, and he does a good job of it. In fact he is 11th in the PL in assists and only one non-PG has more assists than him. To put his assists in some perspective, he is averaging twice as many assists as any other Bison power forward who has played in the decade. Also more assists than any Bison PF going back 20'years.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-14-17 10:29 PM - Post#221843
I wasn't bashing Zach by any means. He is probably the most versatile player in the league. You make a good point 137 about his assists. His TO numbers don't look good, but when you consider what he's expected to do it's understandable. |
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02-14-17 11:10 PM - Post#221852
You make a good point 137 about his assists. His TO numbers don't look good, but when you consider what he's expected to do it's understandable. Agree. To put it in perspective, Zach is one of only five players in the league, other than PG's, to have a higher assist rate than turnover rate (Pomeroy stats). No other Bison, other than Stephen Brown, can claim this honor.
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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02-15-17 04:16 PM - Post#221925
If we want Lehigh to be on the other side of the bracket, I think tonight is a must win for them vs Navy. Given how easy Lehigh's remaining schedule appears to be on paper, I think they have a better chance to move up to the 3 seed than fall back to the 6. In all likelyhood they won't be able to pass Bucknell or Boston so getting ahead of Navy is only way that they can get to the 3. It's possible that with the way the schedule sets up, that Bucknell could possibly be playing a meaningless game vs Navy in the last regular season game, with the fate of Lehigh's seed potentially in their control. However Lehigh plays a night game for their last game so they could potentially be in a situation where if they win they get the 3 and could possibly play Boston in the second round, who owns them. Or they could lose and be the 4 seed and possibly play Bucknell in the second round, whom Lehigh owns. Would be interesting to see that scenario play out. All this thinking makes my head hurt, maybe I should just watch the games and let the pieces fall how they may. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-15-17 05:12 PM - Post#221938
It doesn't matter to me when or if we play Lehigh again. It wouldn't be any less painful losing to them in the final vs. the semi if it comes to that. So, yes, watch the games and don't worry about who we play in the tournament. |
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02-15-17 05:21 PM - Post#221940
Rumor has it that Sam Hinkie has been seen in Bethlehem. Trust the Process might be their new saying in order to be guaranteed a favorable match up in the 2nd round of PL tournament. 
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
02-15-17 06:42 PM - Post#221951
How about we play the tough zone we are a capable of playing and end this conversation? Holy Cross is not anywhere near as good as we are and they handled them like they were playing Williams. |
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A Western Bison Sophomore Posts 179 |
02-15-17 06:46 PM - Post#221953
I would like to win the quarterfinal game this year. |
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02-15-17 08:00 PM - Post#221962
I would like to win the quarterfinal game this year. You can say that again!
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02-15-17 11:33 PM - Post#222005
BUCKNELL (12-3): @BostonU, Lafayette, Navy BOSTON (11-4): Bucknell, @Army, @Holy Cross NAVY (10-5): Army, American, @Bucknell LEHIGH (9-6): @Lafayette, Colgate, Army LOYOLA (8-6): Colgate, @Holy Cross, American Sunday's Bucknell game at BU is HUUUUUUGE. If we ended up tied with them, Terriers could be in strong tiebreaker shape where records against next highest seed are compared. Especially since our last game is against Navy and we'd be trying to give them one more loss, which could have the effect of elevating Lehigh to the 3rd seed and thus giving BU the tiebreaker. (Feel free to point out scenario nuances I'm missing!) |
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02-16-17 01:42 PM - Post#222027
The Sunday, Feb 19 Bucknell at BU game has been selected to air on CBS Sports Network. http://www.patriotleague.org/news/2017/2/9/MBB_020 ... Hopefully they also pick up the Bison home game the following Saturday against Navy. That is by far the best game that day. The only other decent game is Boston playing at holy cross, and that clearly is not nearly as interesting a game. Your hopes have become reality: Navy at Bucknell season finale will also be on CBS Sports http://www.patriotleague.org/news/2017/2/16/MBB_02 ... |
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 02-16-17 09:36 PM - Post#222045
How about we play the tough zone we are a capable of playing and end this conversation? Holy Cross is not anywhere near as good as we are and they handled them like they were playing Williams. Umm, that was not the best analogy... Williams Stuns Div. 1 Holy Cross |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
02-17-17 06:58 AM - Post#222056
Oh snap! |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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02-17-17 10:26 PM - Post#222191
Yo, the league is slacking...shouldn't we be seeing league seeding scenarios on these updates by now? http://www.patriotleague.org/news/2017/2/17/MBB_02 ... |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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02-18-17 04:49 PM - Post#222317
Army was down by about 25 with 12 minutes to go at Navy and just came back to win, unbelievable. Now a Bison win tomorrow wins them the regular season title. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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02-18-17 05:01 PM - Post#222321
Army was down by about 25 with 12 minutes to go at Navy and just came back to win, unbelievable. Now a Bison win tomorrow wins them the regular season title. I believe it was a 42-14 run by Army to finish the game. A Bucknell win won't give them the outright regular season title yet but it would give them the one seed in the tourney. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-18-17 08:34 PM - Post#222345
I can't believe Army pulled that game out. Lehigh could easily pass Navy for 3rd now. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-18-17 09:36 PM - Post#222352
Highlights of Army's comeback. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2IfF0_tyrs |
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Shot Clock Masters Student Posts 883 |
02-23-17 12:53 PM - Post#223115
Has Lehigh clinched no lower than 3rd? I know they split with Boston and Navy...is the next tiebreaker - "wins vs. Bucknell as the top-seed?"
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02-23-17 02:06 PM - Post#223118
Has Lehigh clinched no lower than 3rd? I know they split with Boston and Navy...is the next tiebreaker - "wins vs. Bucknell as the top-seed?" Yes.
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02-23-17 02:18 PM - Post#223119
Wouldn't Lehigh get the 4 seed if they and Boston lose and Navy wins? All would be tied and Lehigh would have the worst group head to head. |
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Shot Clock Masters Student Posts 883 |
02-23-17 02:59 PM - Post#223124
Wouldn't Lehigh get the 4 seed if they and Boston lose and Navy wins? All would be tied and Lehigh would have the worst group head to head. They are all 2-2 against each other.
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02-23-17 03:12 PM - Post#223127
Wouldn't Lehigh get the 4 seed if they and Boston lose and Navy wins? All would be tied and Lehigh would have the worst group head to head. They are all 2-2 against each other. Boston 3-1 (swept Lehigh, split Navy) Navy 2-2 (split both) Lehigh 1-3 (swept by Boston, split Navy) |
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Shot Clock Masters Student Posts 883 |
02-23-17 03:32 PM - Post#223131
Wouldn't Lehigh get the 4 seed if they and Boston lose and Navy wins? All would be tied and Lehigh would have the worst group head to head. They are all 2-2 against each other. Boston 3-1 (swept Lehigh, split Navy) Navy 2-2 (split both) Lehigh 1-3 (swept by Boston, split Navy) Oooops. I miscounted. Then yeah, I suppose Lehigh would be 4th in that scenario.
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02-23-17 03:37 PM - Post#223133
Wouldn't Lehigh get the 4 seed if they and Boston lose and Navy wins? All would be tied and Lehigh would have the worst group head to head. They are all 2-2 against each other. Boston 3-1 (swept Lehigh, split Navy) Navy 2-2 (split both) Lehigh 1-3 (swept by Boston, split Navy) Oooops. I miscounted. Then yeah, I suppose Lehigh would be 4th in that scenario. Yes, that's correct. Mentally I hadn't even thought of the possibility of Lehigh losing at home to Army
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-23-17 04:42 PM - Post#223140
Army has beaten Navy and Boston in it's last 2 games. I would not right them off vs. Lehigh just yet. They could be a tough out for the Bison in the QF if they keep playing this way. |
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
02-24-17 10:54 AM - Post#223182
Whacky Stuff see you in Lewisburg tomorrow.. |
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02-24-17 02:24 PM - Post#223243
Not to get ahead of myself but when do you guys think the earliest release date is for the semifinal tickets? |
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03-15-17 10:04 PM - Post#227179
2016 patriot league freshman of the year Delante Jones is transferring from American |
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03-15-17 10:57 PM - Post#227185
2016 patriot league freshman of the year Delante Jones is transferring from American Jones was also a preseason All-PL pick - ahead of Zach Thomas - but had a so-so season. Very talented, however, and a big loss to AU. Apppears they will be picked in the bottom three next preseason.
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VoiceofNavySports Freshman Posts 67 |
03-16-17 05:41 AM - Post#227194
His game didn't fit into their game.. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-16-17 01:31 PM - Post#227258
His game didn't fit into their game.. Also seemed to have lost all interest in playing the Princeton Offense. Went backwards from last year to this year
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
03-23-17 09:37 AM - Post#227957
The fallout continues at American as now 4 players are transferring. |
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03-23-17 12:23 PM - Post#227978
The fallout continues at American as now 4 players are transferring. Holy mackerel! |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-23-17 12:30 PM - Post#227980
The fallout continues at American as now 4 players are transferring. The complete list (although it may not be final): 1. Delante Jones - sophomore wing who played 79% of the minutes. Started every game and averaged 11.5 ppg. 2. Lonnie Rivera - sophomore PF who averaged 17.5 mpg but missed some games. Played 30.5% of total minutes. Started 9 PL games and averaged 5 ppg. 3. Alex Paquin - junior guard from Montreal who averaged 14 mpg in PL play. Had a run of good minutes in PL games but then hardly played down the stretch. Averaged about 4 ppg in PL games. Played 22% of all minutes. Reportedly will graduate from AU this spring/summer and then play immediately for McGill. 4. Andrija Matic - sophomore PF/C from Serbia. Played a lot in PL games as a frosh, averaging over 15 mpg, but rarely played this year. Played about 10% of total minutes. In total, AU loses guys who played almost 57 mpg. At the moment, they look destined for a fight for the bottom three spots next season, but a lot will depend on how the four available scholarships are used. Under Jones, AU wss very active in soliciting transfers, but that hasn't been the case with Brennan. Since they need players who are available immediately, they may seek jucos and/or players who graduate in May but have another year of eligibility. They may opt for more HS recruits, but there aren't many still available who have the ability to come in and play right away.
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03-23-17 12:35 PM - Post#227982
None of the players or coaches have commented on the exact reasons for the transfers, but there are possibly a few reasons: 1. Brennan is a tough coach to play for, both in temperament and in the way he uses bench players, giving them a lot of minutes one day and then nothing a week later. 2. Although every recruit knows going in that AU uses the Princeton Offense, some may find that it doesn't suit their game due to its slow tempo or style of play. 3. Lack of minutes for the most recent two transfers - opportunity to play more somewhere else. It is interesting that Bucknell in the entire scholarship era - about 14 years - has had exactly two transfers. AU in the last 10 days just doubled that figure.
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03-23-17 01:11 PM - Post#227987
It is interesting that Bucknell in the entire scholarship era - about 14 years - has had exactly two transfers. AU in the last 10 days just doubled that figure. When Jeff Jones was the head coach at AU, didn't they have quite a few players transfer into their program?
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03-23-17 02:35 PM - Post#228001
It is interesting that Bucknell in the entire scholarship era - about 14 years - has had exactly two transfers. AU in the last 10 days just doubled that figure. When Jeff Jones was the head coach at AU, didn't they have quite a few players transfer into their program? Yes, many. Off the top of my head: Andres Rodriguez (Louisville) Paulius Joneliunas (South Carolina) Cornelion Guibunda (Georgetown) Bryce Simon (juco) Frank Borden (juco) Constantin Motni (juco) - thrown off team for assault. Frane Markusovic (juco) Vlad Moldeveanu (GMU) Troy Brewer (Georgia) Charles Hinkle (Vandy) Austin Carroll (Rutgers) Pee Wee Gardner (SF Austin) Also maybe Kevin Panzer (Nevada), who I believe made the transfer decision just about the time Jones left to coach ODU. I believe Panzer had a connection with Wroblicky.
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03-23-17 04:22 PM - Post#228025
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03-25-17 04:47 PM - Post#228125
Two more transfers: 1. Brandon Alston, Lehigh 6-5 wing who had two years of eligibility left due to missing a year to a torn ACL. He is graduating in May and plans to go somewhere as a grad student. This is a significant loss to LU, as he played the most minutes this year of any non-starter. Would have been a likely starter in place of Price next season. 2. Dylan Gollihar, 7-0 205 lb freshman center, who didn't play this year. He was a major project but might have contributed at some point down the road.
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03-25-17 04:54 PM - Post#228126
I remember Vlad and Pee Wee being All-American candidates in HC70's mind. Certainly not All-Americans but both very good PL players, who both made 1st team All-PL. Gardner (along with Wroblicky) did lead his team to one PL title. Vlad never did. One of my fondest PL memories is of Bryan Cohen guarding Vlad in 2011 and 2012. Bryan gave up 3+ inches to the 6-9 Vlad, who was one of the league's top three players - one who could play inside and out, post up or shoot the three or anything in between. But Bryan stuck with Vlad constantly, harassed him, and constantly denied him position. The first time the Bison met Vlad, he had a good game, often with Cohen not guarding him, but BC shut him down completely on the last possession, where Vlad ended up forcing a bad shot that could have won the game. After that game, the two teams met three more times over the next 1+ years. Cohen guarded Vlad most of the time, and he held him to 6-27 shooting, 18 points in 87 minutes, 6 ppg. In all other games over those two seasons, Vlad averaged about 20 ppg. Bryan is the only player to win the PL DPOY award three times. Imo he is clearly the best defensive player in league history who wasn't a center. It's hard to compare centers defensively to wings and guards, but I would say that Foyle was likely the only more valuable defender than Cohen. Muscala might be in the conversation, although BC was the league DPOY in 2011 and 2012. Hopefully Nana will be in that conversation by next year.
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Doktore K Masters Student Posts 473 |
03-26-17 11:04 AM - Post#228142
Two questions about Lehigh and the post by B137: is Dylan Gollihar also a transfer from LU, or somewhere else? Who are the players that Lehigh is losing to graduation or other reasons? I know about Kempton but who else? |
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03-26-17 11:33 AM - Post#228146
Two questions about Lehigh and the post by B137: is Dylan Gollihar also a transfer from LU, or somewhere else? Who are the players that Lehigh is losing to graduation or other reasons? I know about Kempton but who else? 1. I forgot to note that Gollihar was at Loyola. 2. Lehigh loses Kempton, starting SG Austin Price, and Alston. Also guard Devon Carter, a 5th year senior, who did not see much playing time but was also a scholarship player. In addition to adding a couple of incoming freshmen, Lehigh will also gain Lance Tejada, a transfer PG from East Carolina; Caleb Sedore, a soph center who has sat out both years due to injures; and Jack Lieb, a freshman center who sat out this year due to injury. The latter two big men may end up playing extra seasons via injury redshirts. Lehigh may look to add another incoming freshman since at the moment they will only have 10 scholarship players next year.
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A Western Bison Sophomore Posts 179 |
03-28-17 11:53 PM - Post#228284
A discussion of changes on-the-court at Lehigh, post-Kempton: http://thebrownandwhite.com/2017/03/26/lehigh-men s... |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
04-01-17 06:20 PM - Post#228430
Gonzaga is a fun team to watch. Well coached and a quintessential college team in their approach |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
04-02-17 12:18 AM - Post#228438
Gonzaga is a fun team to watch. Well coached and a quintessential college team in their approach And man the big guy in the middle is quite a load of human being.
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04-02-17 08:30 AM - Post#228439
AB, I agree that Karnowski is a massive man. He looks like a Viking with that beard. Also, Collins looks like the real deal. If he sticks around for a few more years, the Zags should continue to be one of the best college teams. IMO, Mark Few should never leave Gonzaga. Sure, he could get paid more, but overall quality of life and job security will never get any better. BTW, the same holds true for Jay Wright at Nova.
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04-02-17 02:22 PM - Post#228448
Karnowski looks like he's 30, lol. And yes, he is big. His vertical jump isn't impressive but he is what, 300 lbs. I agree that Gonzaga is a great college team. Play as a team, maybe will not have the can't-miss NBA player but will continue to get very solid recruits. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
04-02-17 05:47 PM - Post#228455
That big bearded dude has some touch to his game. His height, size and soft hands can be useful at the next level. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-02-17 05:47 PM - Post#228456
Karnowski is listed at 7-1 & 300 lbs. I'd say he's every bit of both. Could definitely see him in the NBA. |
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04-10-17 08:51 PM - Post#228670
Kempton played in an All Star game on CBS Sports Network. He lead the game in scoring (21) against what looks like some decent competition, but there probably was not a whole lot of D played: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/special_eve ...
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04-11-17 01:19 PM - Post#228674
I saw CBS had Kempton ranked in the high 60's in this year's draft. Unfortunately for him, there are only 60 draft picks. |
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04-11-17 02:27 PM - Post#228677
I saw CBS had Kempton ranked in the high 60's in this year's draft. Unfortunately for him, there are only 60 draft picks. CBS has Kempton at # 69. But the CBS list only includes four international players. Last year there were 16 international players who were taken in the draft. If you included all of the ones who are likely to be picked this year, he drops to 80th or worse. Some lists do not have him in their their top 100.
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04-11-17 03:44 PM - Post#228680
I saw CBS had Kempton ranked in the high 60's in this year's draft. Unfortunately for him, there are only 60 draft picks. If you are going to get drafted in the 2nd round which is not guaranteed money, isn't it almost better to not get drafted at all? That way, you can try to sign with the team that needs for your specific skill set.
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04-11-17 05:36 PM - Post#228681
I saw CBS had Kempton ranked in the high 60's in this year's draft. Unfortunately for him, there are only 60 draft picks. If you are going to get drafted in the 2nd round which is not guaranteed money, isn't it almost better to not get drafted at all? That way, you can try to sign with the team that needs for your specific skill set. Yes, it may be better - especially for those taken in the second half of the second round. Americans taken in the first half usually end up,with guaranteed money. But it is all over the lot for later picks, with all kind of deals involving stashing the players in the D-League or Europe. Here is an interesting article about all of the ramifications of the second round: https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-sec ond-r...
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Doktore K Masters Student Posts 473 |
04-12-17 08:05 AM - Post#228696
Karnowski will be playing over in Europe, not in the NBA. He would lead the NBA in getting HIS shots blocked if he made a team. He'll find a lucrative spot on a Euro League team. Collins will be a lottery pick in the NBA draft. He has declared for the draft after an impressive freshman year. Lot of talent and upside there. The Zags will need to re-load but they always seem to do that and win! |
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04-13-17 01:24 PM - Post#228720
The Lehigh board is reporting that PF Matt Holba is transferring. He is a sophomore who would have had three years of eligibility remaining. Started about half the games this year. Coming on top of the transfer of SF Brandon Alston, who likely would have started next year, this is a huge loss. Brett Reed is a great recruiter, but not very good once the players get there.
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04-13-17 02:34 PM - Post#228722
Brett Reed is a great recruiter, but not very good once the players get there. 137, how do you really feel? 
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04-13-17 03:18 PM - Post#228726
Brett Reed is a great recruiter, but not very good once the players get there. 137, how do you really feel? I don't think many would dispute that - even Lehigh fans.
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04-13-17 06:32 PM - Post#228729
Yes, it may be better - especially for those taken in the second half of the second round. Americans taken in the first half usually end up,with guaranteed money. But it is all over the lot for later picks, with all kind of deals involving stashing the players in the D-League or Europe. Here is an interesting article about all of the ramifications of the second round: https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-sec ond-r... This article shows how very fortunate Mike was to get a shot at the NBA, let alone be as successful has he has. Hopefully, he has a good post-season and gets a good offer from the Hawks. |
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