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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
01-15-17 04:35 PM - Post#218418
Discuss. |
besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
01-15-17 04:37 PM - Post#218420
The evidence of what Mike is suggesting: https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/ 820730894... |
penn nation Professor Posts 21081 |
01-15-17 04:44 PM - Post#218422
That should make next year quite intriguing. |
91Quake PhD Student Posts 1123 |
01-15-17 04:47 PM - Post#218423
Yes! Just saw this as well. If you have followed his twitter feed while his recruiting has been going on, you will see that he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and a good heart. Those are the kinds of people that I want at my alma mater, so I am very glad he will be attending Penn. All the better that he is a promising basketball player, even better that he has the makings of a good person. Congratulations and welcome aboard. |
penn nation Professor Posts 21081 |
01-15-17 04:53 PM - Post#218424
Now let's wait and hear from the Princeton folks that they really didn't want him after all. |
besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
01-15-17 04:55 PM - Post#218425
Mike White Among other reasons, Jarrod Simmons said he chose Penn because "It's a program where I thought I could maybe play right away." |
penn nation Professor Posts 21081 |
01-15-17 05:11 PM - Post#218430
Mike White
Among other reasons, Jarrod Simmons said he chose Penn because "It's a program where I thought I could maybe play would start right away." |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
01-15-17 09:22 PM - Post#218442
Mike James - really bringing a pick me up to the Penn board a day after disaster. Well done sir! Yesterday was so disappointing that I think a bunch of people couldn't bring themselves to the board today to see it. Hell, we've had more than 7 posts on a day discussing Twitter conversations for Simmons... and that's all we've mustered so far. If this happened last week there would be 30 posts by now. Obviously awesome news and a real talent boost that is sorely needed! If very much like to see us play with two bigs on the floor next year as default. nychoops if you're out there reading, can you share what recent offers came in to Simmons from power 5 schools? |
SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1150 |
01-15-17 09:26 PM - Post#218443
I wasn't sure after last night but now I guess I'll just have to come back for (my) season # 51 next year. |
Jay O Masters Student Posts 547 |
01-15-17 09:53 PM - Post#218446
Mike White Among other reasons, Jarrod Simmons said he chose Penn because "It's a program where I thought I could maybe play right away." Whew, sounds like Friday night did end up being good for something |
Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
01-15-17 10:38 PM - Post#218449
Add Simmons and Woods (even without Howard) to this group and you have something worth buying tickets to see. |
penn nation Professor Posts 21081 |
01-15-17 10:55 PM - Post#218450
Well, we could still use a consistent shooter or two. Or three. |
Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
01-15-17 11:22 PM - Post#218452
I think Betley can be that guy |
Buckeye Quake PhD Student Posts 1601 |
01-15-17 11:49 PM - Post#218453
Scott and hopefully Williams. Simmons is an outstanding get for the program. |
Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
01-16-17 01:19 AM - Post#218459
I needed this news...badly. Good stuff. Congrats to all involved in helping to make it happen, especially to Jarrod. You don't always see kids go the extra mile to get a test score so he is to be commended. It shows his commitment and is really exciting. Now the question is who my son will pretend to be next year when we play basketball. Going to be tough to beat AJ at this point but I get a feeling Jarrod has a shot. PS It would be nice to see him announce it himself. |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
01-16-17 02:42 AM - Post#218461
What's great about this is a rotation of Brodeur, Rothschild and Simmons has the potential to be fantastic. Simmons has perimeter skills (sounds like he has range out to 3 point line) which is a perfect fit for this offense. Adding Scott (very athletic) and hopefully a healthy Williams (he looked really, really good before injury) adds a lot of size and athleticisim on the wing. Throw in Woods for two years and that sounds intriguing. 2017 class is now very good. Wonder if there is anyone else still on the board for us. |
Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
01-16-17 03:20 AM - Post#218463
Don't forget the 7-3 wildcard Mark Jackson. I wonder how much he plays on his mission. So as to not hijack an awesomely important thread, I wonder if Andy Toole did any recruiting for us when it became apparent he had no chance at getting him. He does work with Jarrod's dad, associate AD at RMU. |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
01-16-17 03:49 AM - Post#218465
Hope he comes in and becomes the next Jeff Foote, but honestly I don't believe in 7' Ivy Leaguers succeeding until I see it. Interestingly I think 2 years off after high school could actually be very positive. Hopefully he's added some weight. ;-) |
1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2260 |
01-16-17 08:00 AM - Post#218466
Don't forget the 7-3 wildcard Mark Jackson. I wonder how much he plays on his mission. From a site with the rules for the mission: Do not play full court basketball. Do not play basketball in leagues. Do not play basketball in tournaments. You may play half-court basketball. |
AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4350 |
01-16-17 08:54 AM - Post#218469
The Simmons news was nice to wake up to. Didn't watch either game this weekend but I'm off today and will try to watch the Brown game. Obviously something isn't working. This team is once again a poor shooting team. i don't get it. We recruit shooters and they can't put the ball in the basket once they put on the Penn uniform. |
QHoops Senior Posts 368 |
01-16-17 11:26 AM - Post#218472
Last Penn recruit with 3 ACC offers? Tony Price? |
nychoops Junior Posts 239 |
01-16-17 11:45 AM - Post#218473
Terrific get...hes young, very energetic with a high skill set. I wouldn't bet on Carmody but I did hear that Penn is working very hard with some really good players in the class of 18' who have legit interest |
mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
01-16-17 11:54 AM - Post#218474
I think the AI hike will dampen what sounds like it could be another ridiculous league-wide 2018 class, but I'm still hearing very bullish things about the 2018 pool. And when the pool is big, there can be lots of winners. |
nychoops Junior Posts 239 |
01-16-17 12:02 PM - Post#218475
Mrjames...I think i finally understand the AI but was unaware of the hike.,,if you can would you simply(I'm not Ivy bright!) explain what the hike entails.....thanks. |
mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
01-16-17 12:24 PM - Post#218479
From what I understand, the AI is going from 178 to 183 for the 2018 class. The move was made to recalibrate for the ACT producing what have been seen as inflated AI scores. At least that's what I remember the argument as. You can envision that as a couple point increase in the ACT or 50 point increase in the SAT. And while it will minorly hurt the league as a whole, it will have an outsized impact on those teams that could fish a lot at the floor and relative benefits for teams that were restricted in the numbers they could take at the floor. |
AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4350 |
01-16-17 01:11 PM - Post#218488
Mike Isn't the AI still a 3 part calculation with the option of counting the SAT twice instead of the subject tests. If so aren't we talking about the need for a 25 point bump in the SAT? |
Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
01-16-17 01:21 PM - Post#218490
I could not be more happy about this addition. |
Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
01-16-17 02:42 PM - Post#218499
I guess this means it's official? I'm still waiting on his twitter announcement. http://blogs.post-gazette.com/sports/varsity-blog/... I didn't realize he was born in Princeton. Makes it that much sweeter. |
besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
01-16-17 02:51 PM - Post#218501
I would think you should perceive multiple sources confirming this commitment as his official announcement. Edit: I will also point out that Joe Mihalich retweeted the announcement from Corey Evans of Simmons' commitment pursuant to the NCAA's new rules on social media/recruiting: http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/08/coaches... |
Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3765 |
01-16-17 03:03 PM - Post#218502
This team has been consistently inconsistent all season. They're still very inexperienced, so this should surprise nobody. |
besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
01-16-17 03:04 PM - Post#218503
I know it feels like we've been talking about him forever, so perhaps these videos have been shared, but here's an old one of Jarrod talking about his early recruiting interest (apparently VCU under Shaka was his first offer): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mu2c9w35Tc Also, he has a Hudl page which seems to include many of his games this year: http://www.hudl.com/profile/8529887/jarro d-simmons |
Bill Lewis Senior Posts 304 |
01-16-17 03:45 PM - Post#218513
Mr. James. Why would the league require a higher SAT score if the ACT is the culprit? Just curious. |
mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
01-16-17 04:11 PM - Post#218517
I believe (and I strongly emphasize believe, because as you know, getting a look at an official document that spells out these rules is a no go) that they use verbal + math + GPA as the 80/80/80, not SAT I Score + SAT I Score or SAT II Score + GPA. Either way, though, you'd still need 50 points. For instance. Let's say I'm at 590 Math, 590 Verbal and a GPA that translates to a 60. Under the math + verbal + GPA way, that would translate to a 178 (our current bar). Under the SAT I + SAT I + GPA way that would translate to 178 as well (1180/2/10 + 1180/2/10 + 60). Now, if I raise my Math by 50 points, I'm now at: 640 / 10 + 590 / 10 + 60 = 183 (new bar) Under the other calc, I'd be at: (1230 / 2) / 10 + (1230 / 2) / 10 + 60 = 183 (new bar) So I think you'd be looking at 50 points either way. |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
01-16-17 04:11 PM - Post#218518
A lot to like in those videos from this season - dunks, blocks, and rebounds are a given because he is playing smaller kids, but him hitting 3 pointers and pushing the ball up court is why we should really be excited. What I see in those videos reminds me of Koko Archibong. It will be great to have a player with that skill set again (fun to watch) and seems like a great compliment to Brodeur and Rothschild. |
mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
01-16-17 04:16 PM - Post#218520
It's the same reason why we saw the jump from 171 to 176 when only the class rank to GPA move was to blame. You could have argued that it would have been more "correct" to keep the bar at 171 for those using class rank and raise it to 176 for those using GPA. In this iteration, they could have calibrated down the ACT score as it translates to an AI score, but they didn't, they decided to adjust the floor. I think it might just be cleaner and easier to do it that way. I don't have a lot of clarity into the "why," sadly. |
pennsive Junior Posts 200 |
01-16-17 05:52 PM - Post#218532
Welcome to our family, Jarrod. We are all passionate about Penn basketball and its tradition of outstanding players. Everyone is thrilled and looking forward to your playing for Penn. You made the right choice. Penn is a wonderful university, and not just because of its basketball team. We all wish you every success on and off the court. |
TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
01-16-17 06:28 PM - Post#218533
This is great news. Simmons has been lighting it up for Moon HS this season so happy this is now a done deal. |
AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4350 |
01-16-17 09:13 PM - Post#218545
Mike Not the way I understand it to be and not the way others have documented in through the years. Sat 1 math plus verbal divided by two (drop the last digit) eg 70 plus 60 diviflded by two. 65 Highest Sat 2 plus second highest SAT 2 divided by two again dropping last digit eg 750. And 700. 72 Plus GPA adjusted for curriculum difficulty Option to use part 1 twice in lieu of using part two |
AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4350 |
01-16-17 09:14 PM - Post#218546
jarrod just announced on Twitter |
mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
01-16-17 11:09 PM - Post#218558
That's the way I always understood the AI too. Just had heard recently that they don't use the section tests anymore. Functionally the calc is the same. Math + Verbal as pieces 1 and 2 or doubling the total for pieces 1 and 2 is the same outcome. Still need 50 pts. |
Buckeye Quake PhD Student Posts 1601 |
01-18-17 02:55 PM - Post#218658
If NYCHOOPS is around I'm wondering if Dwayne Cohill is one those players you were referring to that we're involved with? I've heard he has legitimate interest. |
TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
01-18-17 03:40 PM - Post#218671
[furiously googles Dwayne Cohill] Yeah, that'll do. If we have a chance. |
Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
01-18-17 03:48 PM - Post#218675
look, i simply don't have the time/sanity to follow another 17 year old's twitter. I'm opting out of this one. Feel free to run with it "TheLine". |
TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
01-18-17 04:08 PM - Post#218679
He's 16. Also looks like he's being pursued by multiple majors. Will wait for those in the know to clue us in. |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
02-24-17 03:52 PM - Post#223260
Jarrod Simmons' playoff game available for viewing Friday, February 24 at 8:00 pm at this site. |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
02-24-17 11:14 PM - Post#223457
FYI looks like Simmons team won and he scored 21. Didn't watch but also seems to be available to watch VOD now. |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
02-25-17 12:11 AM - Post#223464
If the announcers were accurate, Jarrod had 21 points, 20 rebounds and 4 blocked shots. I will try to post the link for his team's next round playoff game. |
Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-25-17 12:24 AM - Post#223466
He had two blocks in the first quarter alone and then I stopped watching. He certainly has mastered the explosive high school drive to the hoop. Next year is certainly going to be interesting. |
Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1877 |
02-25-17 02:08 AM - Post#223476
Thanks to Stuart Suss for forwarding the game link. I just watched it. I sort of advanced quickly through it to skip timeouts and slow play - and missed some of the action. My observations are that Simmons is a very athletic big. He reminds me very much of Koko Archibong as a Freshman or Sophomore. He has quickness, can run the floor, and has some pretty good skills. He scored on drives from the top of the key, made some post moves, and had a steal which he drove down the court for a slam. The area where I thought he was much stronger in than I expected was his passing. His passes were crisp and he had good vision. The main concern I have for Simmons is that he didn't really show himself as a physical presence. He was 2-3 inches taller than anyone on the floor, and he picked his spots as to when to impose himself on the game. He didn't have a constant motor, didn't seek contact on rebounds, and didn't box out that well. At 6'8 or so, he won't be the tallest guy on the floor in the ivies, and I'm not sure if he'll be ready to fill that starting slot. My suggestions for him would be 1) always have his hands up on defense. It makes an amazing difference in clogging up the passing lanes, stopping penetration, and creating position on rebounds. Even when resting, just keep those hands up! 2) Gain a lot of glute and upper body strength. Simmons is not physical enough yet to be a starter in the Ivies. He had a ton of rebounds in the game, but he would not be a rebounding force in the ivies right now. AJ is going to kill him in practice unless he gets way more physical and active. 3) Be a lot more aggressive. He was a star of the game, but he showed skills and athleticism to be even more of a force. Simmons has great potential. I hope he has a growth curve and work ethic like Koko. While he doesn't look like an ivy starter today, he seems ahead of where Koko was as a Freshman. Simmons could be a bigger star if he works hard enough on his game. |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
02-26-17 07:13 PM - Post#223802
Friday's game is still available for viewing at this site. Jarrod's next playoff game is Tuesday at 8:00 pm. It is expected to be available for internet viewing. I will post the link when I have it. |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
02-28-17 04:59 PM - Post#224041
As of now, it only appears that there is only audio, not video of Jarrod Simmons' game tonight. But, check this web site closer to the 8:00 pm tip off to see if any video link appears. |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
03-01-17 01:07 AM - Post#224091
Big game for Jarrod Simmons in a win that puts them in the area final on Friday: 31 points, 19 rebounds and six blocked shots! He was 3 inches taller that any opposing player but those are still big numbers. |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
03-02-17 12:17 AM - Post#224230
Jarrod Simmons and his Moon team will play in the WPIAL final on Friday night at 9:00 pm. Once I find a link to the broadcast, I will post it here. Moon will play Hampton who upset Robby Carmody's Mars team. However, regardless of the results of these games, both Moon and Mars will be playing in the statewide PIAA tournament. |
Charlie Fog Masters Student Posts 586 |
03-02-17 08:13 AM - Post#224235
Too bad about the upset, I was really looking forward to the war of the worlds. |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
03-03-17 06:29 PM - Post#224476
Here is the link to tonight's Moon game. As of now, it looks like audio only as I do not see a link for any video. The Post-Gazette preview article focuses on Jarrod. The game tips off at 9:00 pm, so check the site after the Penn - Dartmouth game ends. |
TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
03-03-17 06:44 PM - Post#224479
That's Robby Carmody next to Simmons in the Post-Gazette picture, right? I liked what I saw in the few minutes I viewed of the last game. Agree with Penndemonium's assessment. |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
03-04-17 04:26 AM - Post#224644
Some positive news to offset tonight's very disappointing result - Jarrod Simmons led his team to WPIAL championship tonight. Despite being focus of opposing team still had a heck of a stat line: 22 points, 21 rebounds, 8 blocks, 3 assists, 2 steals. |
section110 Masters Student Posts 847 |
03-04-17 09:51 AM - Post#224665
AQ: It is the 5A championship, so they were playing some real competition. |
91Quake PhD Student Posts 1123 |
03-04-17 10:54 AM - Post#224674
The review: http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/high-school-ba s... |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
03-04-17 11:40 AM - Post#224682
Post-game interview with Jarrod about the game and about his decision to attend Penn. |
Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
03-04-17 11:50 AM - Post#224683
this thread title is a source of comfort. I have a hard time believing he won't average 20 minutes a game next year and be starting by Ivy sched. |
PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3578 |
03-04-17 12:28 PM - Post#224690
Well, we'll see. The level of competition is significantly better. Sometimes it translates, sometimes it doesn't. I suspect you may be right but.... |
Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
03-04-17 03:48 PM - Post#224734
I have to think the level of competition he faced prior to the playoffs had something to do with what appeared to some "quiet" games. Seeing what he did in the big games sure is encouraging. |
Ancient Quaker Masters Student Posts 647 |
03-04-17 03:58 PM - Post#224736
Yep. Thanks, Phil. |
Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3614 |
03-04-17 04:04 PM - Post#224737
Looks like Simmons averaged 17 points and 15 rebounds during regular season, but stepped up his game quite a bit in playoffs. I also watched a few of his games this year, and it seemed to me he was very unselfish (and honestly I was really impressed with his passing and court vision for a big). However, in a few of the games I saw I thought he should actually been more selfish - seems like he was in the playoffs and it paid off. |
Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
03-10-17 11:44 PM - Post#226184
Jarrod Simmons and his Moon Tigers were upset in the first round of the PIAA playoffs, bringing an end to Jarrod's high school career. Beaver Times article about the game (with quotes from Jarrod) |
besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
03-26-17 05:58 PM - Post#228173
Nice honor for Simmons: http://www.timesonline.com/sports/high_school/ba sk... |
Bryan Junior Posts 231 |
04-02-17 09:37 AM - Post#228442
Another award for Simmons, along with a short interview. http://triblive.com/sports/hssports/baske tball/121... |
mbaprof Senior Posts 342 |
04-04-17 08:23 AM - Post#228507
here is the best quote in the article What led you to Penn? "Penn was just a place that had a family atmosphere. I felt comfortable with the coaches. It was also somewhere that mom was OK with. Sometime mom would say a place was too far or she didn't get the right feelings. Penn was the right fit." Never underestimate the power of a MOM! |
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