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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-16-17 10:23 PM - Post#222049
Line is Penn -2. Over/Under is 150. Game is at 8pm |
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SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1150 |
02-17-17 12:50 AM - Post#222053
Don't forget - the women's game is at 5:30. Let's root those Quakers on to maintaining their undefeated Ivy season. I plan to be there for both games. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-17-17 09:36 AM - Post#222063
Season on the line tonight. This is a game Penn, because of its prior loss to Brown, must win to have a shot. The difference is that we are playing with a very different team than a month ago. In that game, Betley did not play, Goodman played 4 minutes and Rothschild 9 minutes. Betley and Goodman, in particular, have given this team a completely different look and have improved the quickness, shooting and, together with Rothschild, the rebounding. So Let's Go Quakers! |
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10Q Professor Posts 23200 |
02-17-17 09:52 AM - Post#222069
Woohoo!! |
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SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1150 |
02-17-17 11:07 AM - Post#222078
Good to see you so upbeat, P38! I'll be there (looking to see you Old Bear) rooting both the women's and mens' teams on. GO QuAKERS! |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4350 |
02-17-17 11:24 AM - Post#222079
Definitely a different look. Would be great if Jackson Donahue could finally find his shot. He's taken the most 3's on the team and is hitting just .276 of them. The kid can shoot. I don't know what the issue is. Sophomore slump? Trying too hard? Just relax and put the ball in the basket a few times If we get a little more from Donahue and Dev Goodman avoids the unnecessary offensive fouls, this team should perform better than the team that Brown whipped a few weeks ago. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3765 |
02-17-17 12:29 PM - Post#222087
Another change-- Sam Jones is now officially a part of the rotation, and seems to be playing solid ball. Regarding Donahue, the other Donahue seems to have decided that the only way to help Jackson work out his shooting woes is to put him in and leave him in. My guess is that Jackson is working his butt off and shooting the lights out in practice, thus earning this opportunity. Eventually, if the shooting % doesn't improve, the coach's patience is probably going to wear out, but it looks like he's giving the kid every chance to earn a spot in the rotation. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-17-17 12:31 PM - Post#222089
Spoiler Alert: Penn wins tonight by 6. Caleb Wood actual sees some time on the floor and plays well. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-17-17 12:37 PM - Post#222090
I would be surprised to see Caleb Wood get substantial time tonight, even were there to be a garbage time. |
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QHoops Senior Posts 368 |
02-17-17 12:40 PM - Post#222091
Speaking of people who can shoot... |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 01:21 PM - Post#222092
The thing about Jackson's missing is that almost every single shot is WIDE OPEN. You can't move the ball that well and have it result in success only 27% of the time. You just can't. If he gets his shooting form back it changes the entire season, but I'm not overly optimistic. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2801 |
02-17-17 01:25 PM - Post#222094
Sam Jones. Killer three point shot. He actually looked like he was having fun on court against Princeton. But, can he play defense? |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-17-17 01:31 PM - Post#222095
I would be surprised to see Caleb Wood get substantial time tonight, even were there to be a garbage time. Just relaying to everyone what was told to me last night by Chuck Daly. Penn will enjoy a comfortable lead throughout (if there is such a thing as a comfortable lead for this team), and my guess is SD is trying to keep some fresh(er) legs for Sunday. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 01:49 PM - Post#222099
If we see Wood and MacDonald at all, I expect it will be on Sunday. If JD misses open 3's (and FTs for that matter), Jones needs to get his minutes. We can use Betley and Hamilton to compensate defensively if Spieth starts going off. They killed us shooting over the 1-3-1 last time. They certainly will try that again so we need to mix up the defenses. A stable rotation likely helps witrh that. They will double AJ relentlessly forcing others to step up. Another double-double from Howard is a big part of the recipe for success. Martin knows this and I'll be looking hard at how they defend him and try to keep him off the boards. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1878 |
02-17-17 02:00 PM - Post#222100
I have only watched a few games this season, but in the ones I saw I was surprised that Donahue had a Steph Curry type of shot selection. He seemed to have the green light to jack a shot off the dribble from 24 feet if his defender was giving him a few inches. I was wondering why, as I didn't think he is a good enough shooter for that. I prefer Donahue as a shooter off of a set play. Jones has earned the right. Donahue, not so much.
Definitely a different look. Would be great if Jackson Donahue could finally find his shot. He's taken the most 3's on the team and is hitting just .276 of them. The kid can shoot. I don't know what the issue is. Sophomore slump? Trying too hard? Just relax and put the ball in the basket a few times
If we get a little more from Donahue and Dev Goodman avoids the unnecessary offensive fouls, this team should perform better than the team that Brown whipped a few weeks ago. |
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Old Bear Postdoc Posts 3988 |
02-17-17 02:30 PM - Post#222101
I'm looking forward! |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4350 |
02-17-17 04:57 PM - Post#222113
True but Penn has better movement lately. He's been getting some very good looks. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-17-17 09:02 PM - Post#222119
Must Win. Let's Go Quakers! |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-17-17 09:02 PM - Post#222120
True but Penn has better movement lately. He's been getting some very good looks. He has usually had open looks when he chucks his best bricks. The proof is in the pudding and also his foul shots. He is, simply, not a polished shooter! |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:06 PM - Post#222121
Okolie sick...Not sure if he'll play. Need to stop Spieth. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:13 PM - Post#222123
When you're running hot why the need to bring in Max again early? |
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91Quake PhD Student Posts 1124 |
02-17-17 09:18 PM - Post#222124
Is every screen set by Brown a moving pick? Are the refs going to call any the whole night? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:19 PM - Post#222125
The refs have already missed two calls that resulted in Brown getting possession and this time it resulted in a Spieth 3. Betley strong so far again with 8. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:19 PM - Post#222126
The announcer may call him Bentley but Betley has ten now. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:21 PM - Post#222127
Spieth killing us and now a phantom foul on AJ gives them a 3 point play. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:22 PM - Post#222129
The announcer may call him Bentley but Betley has ten now. He's also mispronounced Ursinus and Max, so he's consistent. |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-17-17 09:24 PM - Post#222130
The announcer may call him Bentley but Betley has ten now. With his usual strong defensive rebounding. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:25 PM - Post#222131
Now the PBP guy gives us the dreaded "U-Penn." |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:25 PM - Post#222132
Blackmon with his third. Huge. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:27 PM - Post#222133
Well, Jackson certainly isn't afraid to shoot...at least he has made two. I guess. Chucking up two in 5 seconds isnt so smart. |
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91Quake PhD Student Posts 1124 |
02-17-17 09:27 PM - Post#222134
Can someone stop Jackson? He takes shots Steph Curry would pass up.. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:28 PM - Post#222135
The color guy is matching his partner by being completely ignorant of anything that isn't on the stat sheet in front of him. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:28 PM - Post#222136
It feels like we should be up more than 7 with all these brown turnovers. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:29 PM - Post#222137
Again with the free throws... |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-17-17 09:29 PM - Post#222138
Whatsup with JD. Shoots a 3 off the backboard and then..... shoots another. Clank. |
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91Quake PhD Student Posts 1124 |
02-17-17 09:29 PM - Post#222139
Do we even practice free throws? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:30 PM - Post#222140
And it's down to two. So bad. |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-17-17 09:31 PM - Post#222141
Howard,horrible pass att.to AJ. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:32 PM - Post#222142
A Jackson turnover and missed walk/charge (take your pick) and we're tied. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:32 PM - Post#222143
The sheer awfulness of the unforced turnovers Penn commits is exemplified by the one Howard just committed, with a ridiculously aimed bounce pass into the three Brown defenders between he and Brodeur. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 09:33 PM - Post#222144
JD needs to sit... now |
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91Quake PhD Student Posts 1124 |
02-17-17 09:35 PM - Post#222145
Goodman really needs to turn it down a bit and pick his spots. He frequently gets himself in trouble by driving or committing before he has any goal or plan. The moves don't end well: trapped in the corner, up in the air without anyone to pass to, etc. He will learn we can hope. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:37 PM - Post#222146
Complete bailout call for Triplett obvious on the replay. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:39 PM - Post#222148
Goodman with a big 3 and steps in front of the screen to take a charge. Great look from ryan. AJ turns galore. But no calls either. |
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91Quake PhD Student Posts 1124 |
02-17-17 09:39 PM - Post#222149
And they call the moving pick! |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:41 PM - Post#222150
7-0 run after Brown tied it at 25. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:41 PM - Post#222151
Beautiful look out of the double team from AJ and Betley has FIFTEEN. Wow. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:42 PM - Post#222152
Now 10-0 on another Betley 3. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:43 PM - Post#222153
Oh this is fun. AJ with 4 blocks. Betley with 18. Nice run. Columbia though... |
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91Quake PhD Student Posts 1124 |
02-17-17 09:44 PM - Post#222154
Chip, an update please. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:44 PM - Post#222155
15-0. And the frosh shall lead us ... |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:44 PM - Post#222156
40-25. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 09:45 PM - Post#222157
rebound margin 20-8 |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:48 PM - Post#222159
Brown misses a 3 and a rebound foul puts a Goodman at the line for a 1-and-1. Makes both, 42-25. Brown finally gets on the board on a floor foul 1-and-1 at the other end. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 09:48 PM - Post#222160
JD sits. Big run |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:48 PM - Post#222161
Another stupid, stupid turnover by the senior Howard. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 09:49 PM - Post#222162
just as I type that, he hits a 3. He now has 3 |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:51 PM - Post#222163
The Donahue 3 and 2 Brodeur FTs pushes lead to 47-27. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:52 PM - Post#222164
Brodeur feeds a cutting Betley on the baseline for a backdoor layup. 49-27. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:53 PM - Post#222165
Now 7+ minute FG drought for Bears. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:54 PM - Post#222166
Betley 3 at shot clock buzzer makes the halftime lead 52-27. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 09:54 PM - Post#222168
wow: a 52-spot in the first half. Betley with 23 of them. 11-14 FTs and 9-17 from 3 Who are these guys in the Penn unis? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 09:54 PM - Post#222169
Best half of the season...no doubt. And Jackson's confidence is growing... Harvard might just hold on. Remember when the CU fans were rooting for Penn last week vs Cornell? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-17-17 09:55 PM - Post#222170
WOO-HOO! |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 09:57 PM - Post#222173
Harvard 78 Columbia 72 |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 09:57 PM - Post#222174
Not sure how this is happening given the well-documented ginormous athletic advantage Brown has. Must be because Okolie is sick and ineffective. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:10 PM - Post#222176
Ended up 8:14 without a FG for Brown to end the half. 0-9 FGs and 4 TOS. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:13 PM - Post#222179
Of course Penn starts with 2 turnovers on offense. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:15 PM - Post#222181
7-0 Brown run. And Brodeur blows an easy layup. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:16 PM - Post#222182
9-0 Brown run now, after Foreman and Brodeur yanked for Goodman and Rothschild. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:18 PM - Post#222183
Betley 3 and Max postup against the tiny Anderson after a defensive switch make the lead comfortable again. |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-17-17 10:19 PM - Post#222184
Nice left hand finish from Max. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 10:22 PM - Post#222185
Just a complete and total block party out there from our bigs. Max was huge to stop that run. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:23 PM - Post#222186
Donahue with the awful entry feed attempt to Brodeur. |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-17-17 10:24 PM - Post#222188
Mark my prior evaluation on Bradley, excuse me, Betley. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:24 PM - Post#222189
Betley threads the needle on a bsckdoor bounce pass to Howard for the hoop and Blackmon's 4th foul. Misses the FT of course. |
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Penn7277 PhD Student Posts 1365 |
02-17-17 10:25 PM - Post#222190
Howard makes up for it with a three. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:27 PM - Post#222192
11:55 left, 68-48 Penn after Spieth 3 and Brown timeout. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:30 PM - Post#222194
Triplett seems to specialize in generating bailout calls. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:37 PM - Post#222197
76-56 at the under 8:00 timeout. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 10:37 PM - Post#222198
This is really and truly night and day since the Princeton game. The offense could not have looked any worse than it did that night and they couldn't look too much better than they do right now. I'd say a set rotation helps but who could have predicted this drastic of a turn around? Kind of tells us that 0-6 was indeed as unacceptable as we all thought, but let's just keep it rolling. Yale off a loss won't be great but the start time could equalize things. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:40 PM - Post#222200
Hitting your open 3s makes any offense look better. It's not like there haven't been open 3s. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 10:41 PM - Post#222201
Not against Princeton there weren't, but yes, they were there in the others, especially for Jackson. I think I'll shut up with the look ahead talk now. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 10:42 PM - Post#222202
Jackson with what should be the dagger from the corner to go up 19. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:42 PM - Post#222203
Down to 16 because of stupid freshmen mistakes - Betley fouling Spieth on a 3 and Goodman with ridiculous travel. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 10:43 PM - Post#222204
And then he talks trash and picks up a T. Lol. Nice Jackson. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:43 PM - Post#222205
... until that Donahue 3. But of course he has the idiotic T after hitting it. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 10:43 PM - Post#222206
You not watching on espn3 Chip? I'll let you take over with the PBP since I'm ahead. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:45 PM - Post#222207
JD up to 15 now after another 3. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:46 PM - Post#222208
You not watching on espn3 Chip? I'll let you take over with the PBP since I'm ahead. I am, but on Time-Warner Spectrum's crappy service. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 10:46 PM - Post#222209
That 3 from Jackson was VERY confident........Very confident..... And wow with the savy from Goodman around the rim. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:49 PM - Post#222211
(Switching to Verizon FIOS as soon as they finish install in our new neighborhood.) |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 10:50 PM - Post#222212
Anyone know where to get cheesesteaks in Providence? |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:52 PM - Post#222214
Funny to see Donahue on this perimeter hot streak after hearing the Brown announcers in the first half incredulous that he would even be shooting them given his 28% from beyond the arc. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 6997 |
02-17-17 10:54 PM - Post#222218
No cheesesteaks for you! |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-17-17 10:54 PM - Post#222219
spoke too soon |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
02-17-17 11:17 PM - Post#222227
The team is entirely different now that Ryan and Dev are rotation regulars. Was about to question why Jackson is still getting so many minutes and then he finds his stroke. Darnell was masterful in how he controlled the tempo. Maybe it wasn't so apparent from the box score - I don't think he scored that many points and some of his assists were secondary - but it was from watching the game. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-17-17 11:52 PM - Post#222234
The offense is immeasurably better when Darnell doesn't have to do too much and can concentrate on what he does well. This was so fun I may just watch it again. At least the run. I love not having to play tomorrow and maybe we can even get lucky in Hanover. |
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penn62 PhD Student Posts 1053 |
02-18-17 12:05 AM - Post#222236
Betley letting the game come to him. Goodman's speed. Good ball movement. |
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gopenngo Masters Student Posts 487 |
02-18-17 12:12 AM - Post#222238
Delirium has set in. Almost haiku and Q-03 heading to Hanover to get lucky before the game in New Haven. Yes, indeed, all will be right with the world in just a few weeks! |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-18-17 12:36 AM - Post#222241
I'm not sure we can replicate this on a regular basis, but this is the "pick your poison" Penn offense... You wanna double team AJ every time he touches the ball? Well then that leaves us open for three pointers (Betley 6-10; JD 6-11). Based on tonight, do you think Yale will constantly double team AJ on Sunday? Anyone predict Betley to be this good? |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-18-17 12:44 AM - Post#222242
One more thing... I'd like to go back through all of the previous posts on this board about how much better athletically Brown is than Penn... Anyone out there who wants to retract his/her opinion? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-18-17 02:02 AM - Post#222245
I'm not someone who said it but to make that comparison is incorrect. Betley (0) and Goodman played 4 minutes in that first game when the comments were made. They played 61 tonight. |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3615 |
02-18-17 02:08 AM - Post#222247
This thread is a great reminder of why I'm glad I've decided not to post during games. After a game like this the in-game complaints read to be very silly (and I know I'd be doing the same if I did post!). Considering how frustrating it was to start the Ivy season it's great to see this 3 game streak, and love how the team keeps fighting. Still a LOOOONG way to go, but let's see what these kids can do. Obviously hitting shots make everything look better, but think critical thing is that Donahue has found a good rotation (just wish it didn't take so long). Clearly learning for everyone, but one has to ask how Betley got a DNP in first Brown game? Also think that two things have made a big difference: 1) AJ is handling the double teams better and 2) the guards are doing a better job getting themselves open when he gets doubled. P38 - I imagine you'd like some of those posts about Brown back? ;-) |
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Charlie Fog Masters Student Posts 586 |
02-18-17 03:26 AM - Post#222253
JD needs to sit... now Let him sit on Monday. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1878 |
02-18-17 05:22 AM - Post#222254
I've mentioned that there has been quite a few games since the last I've seen. My observations: - Goodman and Betley really change the profile of the team in terms of ball handling and shooting. Goodman has freakishly long and fast steps for a 6' guard. He can get to the hoop. I agree with the points that he doesn't seem to always know what to do with the ball - would like to see him keep the handle and not get into the air as much. He could become our first strong ball possession guard for a while. Betley brings a good combination of rebounding, shooting, length, and self-control. - Even though JD lit up the stats, most of it was in garbage time. I saw him make plenty of turnovers, get burned on D, and take and miss a lot of 3's. I liked the look of Silpe more, but perhaps Silpe will need to have JD's alleged shooting ability to move up in the order. - Rothschild looked great out there. He has gotten much stronger and was incredibly active out there. He looks like Brodeur has rubbed off on him. It's nice to have two big men who are always moving and jostling for position - and are always boxing out. - Ivy basketball is so much better than in the Schneider and Dunphy years. I was surprised at the pace of ball movement. I don't think the bottom half Ivy teams in the in the 90's had personnel athletic enough to move the ball and penetrate like these teams were doing. - I can see why our lineups with Foreman and Donahue as our primary ball handlers were more stagnant. Foreman doesn't move the ball around as quickly as Goodman, and Donahue isn't really a direct threat with the ball in his hands. It slows down AJ and Howard when the ball isn't moving. - AJ doesn't get much time to do his one-on-one moves or even make his backdoor passes. The Ivy teams will collapse on him quickly. Great win! |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-18-17 07:01 AM - Post#222255
Ah, to wake up to see myself getting slammed for my comments after that ugly Brown game here at the Palestra. While I will readily acknowledge that I was down after a terrible loss and also state for the record that I would be happy to be wrong (something I said then) about Penn, here is the comment that most of you are harping on: "I don't understand how you guys don't see this. Both Yale and Brown were light years quicker than we were and stronger too. They beat us not with long outside shots but by driving by us and if they missed, they followed and scored. Yale outrebounded us 42-31 and their guards outrebounded our guards 21-16 (and that includes Howard, who really played forward for us). Their freshman big guard Oni killed us both driving and rebounding....total mismatch as to which we had no answer. The only reason is was relatively close for a while (although we never threatened to actually win) was that we only had 9 turnovers. Against Brown, the Brown guards scored 56 of their 82 points, and repeatedly drove by us as if we were encased in lead. As I noted earlier, they managed an amazing 20 FTs from the guard position while shooting 27 FG attempts....so that is an efficiency that makes it impossible for us to win. Meanwhile, anyone not named Brodeur, Foreman or Howard looked like JV. That was the most discouraging game I have attended in years (not the worst loss, since Jerome had one of those almost every week), but we were supposed to be better and we're not. I see no way we make the playoffs. Brown is not as good as Columbia or Cornell, which has guards who will throw up 50 against us." OK, I said that anyone not named Brodeur, Foreman or Howard looked like JV. I said we lost because of our guards. I said in another post that we had no one to make a team pay for doubling Brodeur. So what happened? Not that the guys playing that day turned from Nerdlucks into MonStars----we put Betley and Goodman out there as the major players in the backcourt and the transfers moved to the bench. So all of you guys are correct that my statement that we had no chance was wrong---but who among us at that time foresaw the insertion of Goodman and Betley? So I rest my case. And again, I'm happy to serve my time if they make the playoff (and I have tickets for the Columbia game). |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8141 |
02-18-17 09:31 AM - Post#222261
JD needs to sit... now Let him sit on Monday. Yeah, that was right after a particularly bad sequence bricking a 3 and a turnover. He must have heard me since he started to go off (in more ways than one - he mouthed off and got a T) right after that. He was getting great looks, importantly from the spots on the floor that he likes. Not sure why they had him on Spieth though. His line says it all - Betley numbers. All those who did not see Begley, I mean Betley, coming: search the board. We have been talking him up for a while now. One thing about being able to attend the games in person again is that I have a good look at the progress of both Betley and Goodman. A lot of what they do is off the ball and their impact was the big difference between this and the first Brown game. We can't expect the shots to fall like that all the time, especially the FTs, but we can expect the defense to be better as a result of the set rotation and mixing the looks. We have crushed opponents off the boards in this streak (almost doubled Brown up last night, and not the result of missed shots.) We do that on Sunday and I like our chances. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6391 |
02-18-17 09:40 AM - Post#222262
Well, the insertion of Betley was predictable -- it was a bit of a mystery why he didn't play in the first game, since he had been starting or playing substantial minutes off the bench every game leading up to it (and the same has been true every game since). He did have a very tough game on both ends the night before against Yale, and it would have been his first time playing a back-to-back. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was hurt or sick, since the minutes really look like an outlier. Anyway, I think we all got the result we wanted, regardless of expectation. Nice to see us get some of the variance that seemed to consistently go against us for a while there turn our way the last two games. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-18-17 11:25 AM - Post#222275
22 assists on 34 field goals. Pretty good, yes? |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3615 |
02-18-17 12:43 PM - Post#222280
P38 - please don't take my comment seriously, as mine was meant tongue in cheek. I was right where you were after the Dartmouth game so I get it. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-18-17 01:00 PM - Post#222282
Betley did have a very tough game on both ends the night before against Yale... Well, then I guess he's got some making up to do for us on Sunday... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-18-17 01:08 PM - Post#222283
That's OK--- I am happy to be wrong about this...even though with Betley and Goodman playing starter's minutes they are a different team. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-18-17 03:22 PM - Post#222301
P38 There are a few qualifying posts that sort of let you off the hook but you were wrong. You said their guards were too athletic. We got more athletic with Goodman and Betley but they didn't get less athletic. We still played a lot of Howard, Jackson, Jones, AJ. Your assessment of Brown's talent was wrong. They played well last time and we played poorly. This time it was reversed. You said things like "it will take two more recruiting classes", "Brown is just better, I was there and saw it...". The game at the Palestra was an anomaly. We are more talented that Brown. Own it. You were wrong. We move on. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-18-17 03:48 PM - Post#222307
Well, I don't know if I was wrong, but you clearly were right predicting a Penn win by 10. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6391 |
02-18-17 03:52 PM - Post#222308
In regard to Donahue guarding Spieth, it was interesting and surprising. Not sure it didn't work though. Most of Spieth's points when the game was in doubt came off Betley when Donahue was sitting, and Brown's little run from down 7 to tie the game at 23 actually came with Spieth off the floor. So overall the way they defended seemed to result in Spieth getting his and nobody else doing much. Seemed to work, although everything seems to work when you hit your 3s and score 96. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-18-17 05:46 PM - Post#222331
Well, I don't know if I was wrong, but you clearly were right predicting a Penn win by 10. Oh I was just as wrong. No way I had an idea we would do that last night. |
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