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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 05:16 PM - Post#222324
Am I really seeing this as a pickem?! A lot has changed in a few weeks...According to Mike on twitter, a win wouldn't have a huge impact as far as whether we would still need to win in NYC, but an unexpected loss by CU somewhere certainly would make a w over Yale even more meaningful. Not to mention what it would do for our confidence. The 1pm start time is a wildcard. I don't love that Yale finished last night so poorly. They may come out angry. Should be interesting. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-18-17 05:24 PM - Post#222325
Perceptive. Jones was not a happy man post-game. He talked about getting right back into action. They certainly can be beaten based on offensive limitations. |
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13otto Masters Student Posts 779 
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02-18-17 05:38 PM - Post#222328
Am I really seeing this as a pickem?! No way. It was a toss up in Philly (Penn opened as a slight favorite but by game time Yale was a one-point favorite), so Yale has to be favored by a touchdown in New Haven.
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
02-18-17 05:42 PM - Post#222329
Yale -5 open. |
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Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
02-18-17 05:49 PM - Post#222332
Television for Sunday: The ASN clearance report has several errors. Philadelphia: The Comcast Network (This is TCN, not CSN. CSN is televising Penn-Drexel wrestling.) New York: SNY Chicago: CSN Plus (The clearance report erroneously list the main CSN channel.) Northern California: CSN Bay Area (The clearance report erroneously lists CSN California.) Pacific Northwest: CSN Northwest Midwest and South: Various affiliates of Cox Sports TV New England: NESN Plus (The clearance report erroneously omits this broadcast.) To the extent the clearance report is accurate, the game may be seen on miscellaneous over the air and digital sub-channels, listed alphabetically by state. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 06:30 PM - Post#222336
I didn't think that could be right. Never go by ESPN. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4498 
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02-18-17 09:10 PM - Post#222349
Dartmouth leading Columbia 39-38 a couple minutes into the second half. A Big Green victory tonight and a Penn victory tomorrow would certainly affect the predicted playoff percentages... That being said, so would reverse outcomes... |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 09:14 PM - Post#222350
Boudreaux really getting stymied and bothered by Columbia's bigs, though. Does not look good out there tonight. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:46 PM - Post#222357
He's been on the bench in trouble for almost half the game. Going to have to hit a 3 down the stretch here. This pg is over his head. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:49 PM - Post#222358
Full on choke. Fleming is brutal. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 09:49 PM - Post#222359
Yes, but for the most part he hasn't done much even when in there up until his final spurt where he did have an impact until picking up foul #4. Columbia in the half court set is getting tons of easy looks down low. They should pull this one out, but you never know. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:52 PM - Post#222360
Another brutal call against Dartmouth. 3 point game. Dartmouth can't even get off a shot. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4498
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02-18-17 09:52 PM - Post#222361
Dartmouth 67, Columbia 63. A little over 3 to go... |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 09:54 PM - Post#222362
You're behind. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:55 PM - Post#222363
Evan needed to make that bunny. Smith mr clutch. Dartmouth brutal at the line. Another effing miss...0 for their last FOUR! CU going to grab lead now. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 09:56 PM - Post#222365
Missed throws first killed Columbia and now Dartmouth. And we think Penn has problems. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:56 PM - Post#222366
Phew. Petrasek missed. Dartmouth gets possession with 4.5 left in a tie game. Make a damn free throw. This drought is unreal. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 09:57 PM - Post#222367
Petrasek had missed 3 of 4--just awful down the stretch. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:58 PM - Post#222368
They hit a 3 but there's no way it's going to count I don't think. They could not have taken more time. Awful |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:58 PM - Post#222369
Nope. How in the world can that happen?! They literally wasted 1.5 seconds for no reason. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 09:58 PM - Post#222370
If that was the "play" that was drawn up...there was little sense of urgency bringing it up. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 09:59 PM - Post#222371
This is not going to end well for us. Oh well. It was certainly there. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 10:01 PM - Post#222373
Either way, we are going to have to beat Columbia. And then hope that Princeton takes down the Lions as well--that's really what it's about. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:01 PM - Post#222374
This same official has made every single close call against Dartmouth the last 8 minutes. Petrasek gets every one. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:02 PM - Post#222375
I'm not even going to cover the number now. This could be a double digit loss. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 10:05 PM - Post#222376
You're betting on a 5-17 team? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:09 PM - Post#222377
Yup. Saw them keeping this close. 27.7 left and a 2 point game. Dartmouth will have to foul. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:12 PM - Post#222378
Smith hits both and they're back up 4. That's about that. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:13 PM - Post#222379
Evan hits a step back 3 to cut it to 1 with 12.5 left. Still breathing. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:16 PM - Post#222381
OH MYYYYYYYYYY. They miss both and Johnson this time scores before the buzzer. Oh my goodness. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 10:17 PM - Post#222382
Mumbling, bumbling and stumbling all the way to the hoop. Unreal. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:17 PM - Post#222383
The Columbia fans will whine that the foul call to send Aldesh to the line was late and they would have been able to kill more time but it could have been even earlier. CU will have 1 second left. I cannot believe what I just watched. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:19 PM - Post#222384
Ball game.....Lol. Well, it certainly helps provide some breathing room in case they win one they're not supposed to. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 10:19 PM - Post#222385
They won't whine because there were so many opportunities for both teams to hit FTs. Nineteen combined misses, many down the stretch in 0-2 fashion. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 10:20 PM - Post#222387
Dartmouth also now becomes a dark horse. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:21 PM - Post#222388
They won't whine Wanna bet? |
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10Q Professor Posts 23451 |
02-18-17 10:22 PM - Post#222389
And I shut the game off. Wow |
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QHoops Senior Posts 369 |
02-18-17 10:23 PM - Post#222392
OK, raise your hand if you have ever tuned into a Columbia at Dartmouth game before ... me neither. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4498
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02-18-17 10:25 PM - Post#222396
Say what you will regarding your opinion of an Ivy League tourney, are any of us watching a Dartmouth v Columbia game last year? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-18-17 10:25 PM - Post#222397
Yeah...It does indeed prove that the tourney ads value where there wasn't any, unless you're a top team at the end of the year. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 10:34 PM - Post#222398
Incredible for a team starting out 0-6 that if we win our last 4 games (no matter what happens Sunday at Yale), we are in the tourney. |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-18-17 10:35 PM - Post#222399
They won't whine Wanna bet? Methinks you overestimate the Lion fan base. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6415 |
02-18-17 10:50 PM - Post#222401
And I didn't just watch -- I yelled so loud on Johnson's final shot that my wife and kids came running to see if I was ok. I think this is fun. Princeton and Harvard clinched today, right? Yale, Columbia, Penn, and Dartmouth all control their own destiny, it appears. All will make it if they win out if I'm adding and tiebreaking correctly. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-18-17 10:59 PM - Post#222404
Dartmouth would need some help but certainly Yale, Penn, and Columbia have complete control of their destiny. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6415 |
02-18-17 11:16 PM - Post#222407
Correct. Turns out I was not adding and tiebreaking correctly. |
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hoops123 Freshman Posts 97 |
02-19-17 12:04 AM - Post#222415
He got into foul trouble. Finished with a double double and a game winning 3 with 20 seconds left before taylor made a full court layup. 12th double double of the season. Most bigs in the league would love to get "shut down" like that.... |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 12:19 AM - Post#222416
As the game got into the much later stages he certainly stepped up. But for a good chunk of the night he simply was not much of a factor. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 12:44 AM - Post#222419
Game winning 3? His shot cut it to 1. |
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hoops123 Freshman Posts 97 |
02-19-17 01:00 AM - Post#222420
He had foul trouble. Tough to make an impact from the bench. |
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hoops123 Freshman Posts 97 |
02-19-17 01:42 AM - Post#222423
He knocked down a three pointer with 12.5 seconds on clock. No three pointer, no game winner from Johnson. Technically he didn't score the last basket. Fun fact: He AVERAGED 26.5 points and 10.5 rebs a game last season against Penn. His first game this year against Penn was a double double with 18 pts and 11 rebs. 3 double doubles (AVG 23.7 PPG 10.67 rpg) in 3 games played (out of his 22 career double doubles so far). Guess what? Penn hasn't been able stop Boudreaux. So has your standard for Boudreaux gotten so high that his 22nd double double of his career tonight of 12 pts 11 rebs is not contributing? Clearly not up to his Penn Standards....but did enough to help his team beat Columbia. Oh and PS, not that I would expect anyone to go this deep, but when teams double Boudreaux, we have open shooters. He passes out and we get shots. So the double teams slow Boudreaux's production, but they open up the rest of the team for open shots... |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 07:51 AM - Post#222426
Someone got a little hurt for no reason at all. You're not going to find too much criticism of Evan on this board so you should probably relax on the completely innocuous and in fact correct comment that he was not having a strong game at that point. Foul trouble is a part of ones game is it not? |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 11:45 AM - Post#222447
I admire Boudreaux. That is why I was commenting during the game that he was getting shut down for a good portion of it--not easy to do for most Ivy teams, and especially that D was managing to overcome this. It wasn't simply a matter of being in foul trouble--he was ineffective for much of the game until late. Their second half spurt came while Boudreaux was on the bench. His overall stat line is nothing to write home about, other than the rebounding. Yes, in 31 minutes he put up 12 points....but he also needed 12 shots and 3 FT attempts to accomplish this. Dartmouth won this game by tremendous passing and guard play. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2818 |
02-19-17 01:46 PM - Post#222457
It is becoming even more evident with Dartmouth and Penn's recent emergence that there is much more talent top to bottom as well as much less distance in the Ivies than ever before. Even with my Tigers' great play, they could easily have 2-4 losses now with slight changes at critical times. Although I refuse to credit the tourney for any of this elevation I believe that we shall see a lot more great play in the coming years. |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-19-17 02:20 PM - Post#222465
Where is the Ivy feed? |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
02-19-17 02:22 PM - Post#222468
Man, Penn looks like a totally different team over the early part of the first half. Much more confident at both ends. They're more patient in running the offense. Brodeur is passing out of double teams in a way he wasn't at the start of the season. Goodman is a blur. Betley looks pretty sharp so far. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6415 |
02-19-17 02:32 PM - Post#222476
I can't get it on ILDN either. Just audio. Very frustrated, as I've missed a lot of the game trying to figure it out. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 02:35 PM - Post#222479
Anyone feel like scoring?! |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3619 
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02-19-17 02:39 PM - Post#222485
Ugh yeah SG keep getting an error on all devices and I can't get it on TV so I've been listening. Has anyone sent an email to complain? |
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tguru Masters Student Posts 409 |
02-19-17 02:42 PM - Post#222489
Game now up or hit F5. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32859 |
02-19-17 02:43 PM - Post#222491
Watching it on glorious HD here in Philly. |
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Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
02-19-17 02:47 PM - Post#222493
Mike Porter, you need the SportsPak for DirecTV. Do you have a local channel package that includes the KHIZ digital subchannels? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 02:48 PM - Post#222494
When you go 7 mins without scoring and still lead at half you can't be too upset. Calls felt a little one sided to me. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32859 |
02-19-17 02:49 PM - Post#222496
Yes. No. Fouls are about even--don't recall any noticeable bad call |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2818 |
02-19-17 02:50 PM - Post#222497
Glad we got Penn out of the way early. 
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Streamers Professor Posts 8290 
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02-19-17 02:51 PM - Post#222499
Don't have the rebounding advantage or the hot 3 point shooting today, but a pretty decent half nonetheless. Only 5 TOS, but only 7 assts. |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3619
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02-19-17 02:58 PM - Post#222503
Thanks Stu - don't have that sports package but will check it out. Now have it on ILDN. Despite drought a good result in first half I think. Let's hope for a good second half. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:16 PM - Post#222512
Well that was a nice start. It all starts with defense and they sure came to defend today. Is it just me or time and time again do we see an off the ball official make a call from much farther out than the guy right on top of the ball? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:18 PM - Post#222514
Max can't get a call down low and our best players all have 2 or 3. Devin was fouled driving twice to no call. There have been more. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:20 PM - Post#222515
Darnell turns into such an asset now. It's night and day. What used to work for AJ no longer does and again and again these officials get fooled. Killer bad travel call. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:22 PM - Post#222516
52-35......just keep playing defense boys. It's truly incredible how different this team is one week later. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
02-19-17 03:23 PM - Post#222518
Foreman has had a solid game so far. He's shooting better, not forcing his way to the basket and setting things up for his teammates. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8290
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02-19-17 03:24 PM - Post#222519
I was fooled on that travel as well live but the replay told a different story. Yale turning it over with regularity now. We are. In their heads, especially Goodman. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2818 |
02-19-17 03:24 PM - Post#222520
I would definitely prefer to play Yale rather than Penn in the opener of the silly Tourney. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:24 PM - Post#222521
That's because he's not being asked to do too much. Devin changes everything. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:25 PM - Post#222523
Goodman is just so quick. Incredible d sets up great help block from AJ. Again they hit a 3 as the clock expires. The whistling from coach is really bad today. Move that mic. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
02-19-17 03:26 PM - Post#222524
And Goodman goes to the basket and gets called for a charge. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:27 PM - Post#222525
Many unforced turns from Yale. D helps for sure but I wonder about the start time. Mini run here for Yale. It's important to score. Good timeout. I thought Devin stopped short on that last charge. Never got a replay. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:29 PM - Post#222527
We finally get a break on a call and they immediately give it back saying Betley stepped out. Coach was right there. Disagrees. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
02-19-17 03:29 PM - Post#222528
How was Betley out of bounds on that catch? He looked as if he was at least a foot inside the sideline, if not more. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:30 PM - Post#222530
Fouls this half 5-0. But Yale isn't a physical team or anything. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2818 |
02-19-17 03:31 PM - Post#222534
Penn hustling defense not allowing Yale any 3s or chance to get back into game. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:31 PM - Post#222535
Oh was that take HUGE from Ryan. And the foul. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2818 |
02-19-17 03:32 PM - Post#222537
Penn hustling defense not allowing Yale any 3s or chance to get back into game. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
02-19-17 03:32 PM - Post#222538
Now he's gotta make the FT. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:34 PM - Post#222539
AJ grabbing man boards and we're up twenty. My god. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 03:34 PM - Post#222540
We are blowing them out in their own building where, until Friday, they were as good as gold. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:36 PM - Post#222543
Another ridiculous foul call from the guy away from the play. Come on with that. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:38 PM - Post#222544
4th charge takes away a dagger 3. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 03:39 PM - Post#222545
Darnell DAGGER. This is real guys. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
02-19-17 03:40 PM - Post#222546
Where was this team in December and early January? |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8290
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02-19-17 03:41 PM - Post#222547
I hated that 3 from Foreman until it went in |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 03:41 PM - Post#222548
At this point, we do need to have some guys in there that can shoot FTs. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 03:45 PM - Post#222549
5 Quakers now in double figures, 3 of them freshmen. |
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02-19-17 04:02 PM - Post#222555
Where was this team in December and early January? Betley had a broken hand and Goodman wasn't ready, or at least that's what we have to infer. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 04:04 PM - Post#222556
We are rooting for you next weekend. If the Ps sweep Columbia cannot catch Penn |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
02-19-17 04:11 PM - Post#222557
No chance they have ANY interest in seeing us at the Palestra. If these games were the final weekend and mattered I think we really might have seen Princeton go easy but can they really do that with 4 to play trying for an undefeated league season? |
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Old Bear Postdoc Posts 4002 |
02-19-17 04:46 PM - Post#222561
Momentum and confidence are wonderful things, great weekend for the Quakers. Congrats. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 04:54 PM - Post#222563
The Ken Pom ratings are now in full tilt. Penn is now ahead of Yale. A month ago, I'm guessing we were separated by more than 100 points. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2818 |
02-19-17 10:06 PM - Post#222600
With the stupid tourney, an undefeated regular league record wouldn't mean squat for us now. Maybe we should rest up our starters Friday for the Cornell game Saturday 
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penn nation Professor Posts 21247 |
02-19-17 10:18 PM - Post#222604
With the stupid tourney, an undefeated regular league record wouldn't mean squat for us now. Maybe we should rest up our starters Friday for the Cornell game Saturday That would do wonders for your RPI. Probably knocks you down 1 or 2 seeds in the NCAA tourney, for those of you who think you'll still beat Penn a 3rd time this year. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2818 |
02-19-17 11:14 PM - Post#222620
PN, you're like the battery bunny that just keeps coming. 
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