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Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2173
02-19-17 11:55 AM - Post#222449    

Time to begin planning for the two big games with Princeton and Penn next weekend whether the Lions are going to the Ivy Leagu Post-Season Tournament. Columbia has had some bad luck the last three games, but no one doubts that the Lions are a a very good basketball team and capable of defeating any Ivy League team including Princeton which we lost to by two points. Furthermore, despite the overtime loss last night, the Lions three best players--Petrasek, Smith and Hickman-- all appear to be peaking and are playing excellent basketball together. All three are terrific players. Furthermore, the Lion now have three more talented players--Tape, Coby and Voss- sharing the center position giving the Lions tremendous depth underneath the boards. Tape is an exciting player. Tape already plays the center position better than anyone Columbia has had in recent memory. Finally, Columbia now has another double digit scorer on the floor in Quinton Adlesh. When the combination of Smith, Hickman and Adlesh or Davis are on the floor Columbia can score points quickly. Hopefully, Meisner and Killingsworth will be healthy and ready to play next weekend.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32803
02-19-17 12:25 PM - Post#222451    

It was a surprise to me to see so many tickets available for these two games. Well, I'll be there on Saturday, for one....
Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2967
02-19-17 12:48 PM - Post#222453    

We are killing ourselves with missed layups and free throws. And we need to learn to close out games.

Columbia Alum
Junior
Posts 247
02-19-17 04:45 PM - Post#222560    

We must win 3 of the next 4 including penn. that means beating penn at home, brown away and either Yale away or princeton at home. Penn will beat us for a 6-8 tiebreaker. There is no room for error anymore, 4th place is Penn's to lose now, we gave it away last night and penn took it this morning. If we can't win 3/4 then I have to say our coaching staff and players really didn't deserve a tourney spot this year. We flopped and turned down the heat at crunch times.
internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3400
02-19-17 05:16 PM - Post#222567    

Time to face reality. Too many inconsistent performances,

There were excellent games, some promising player development but...
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Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2967
02-19-17 06:09 PM - Post#222579    

One interesting statistic is our record in failing to close out games. In league play our biggest loss was to Yale by 9 points, but that is a little misleading because we had to foul at the end. The rest of our losses were all one or two possession losses, usually punctuated by critical missed FTs or open looks, or blown layups. So we were tantalizingly close, and missing one more playmaker and one more glue guy. If we can sweep this coming weekend we can turn around the entire season.

SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6404
02-19-17 06:15 PM - Post#222581    

I'm not going to let you guys pull this reverse jinx after P38 did such a good job of doing it on the Penn board. You guys are still the favorites -- you control your own destiny, and you play us at home.
roarlionroar
Freshman
Posts 55
02-19-17 06:41 PM - Post#222583    

How do you figure that? With the way Penn is playing it's hard to imagine them losing to Cornell, and it is also likely that Columbia loses to Princeton. Even if Columbia beats Penn and ties it up in the standings the lions would most likely have to sweep yale and brown on the road to seal 4th place. That is assuming Penn takes down Dartmouth.

Both teams control their own destiny, but Penn has a one game handicap as of now.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1885
02-19-17 07:11 PM - Post#222587    

Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.
westphillywarrior
Sophomore
Posts 196
02-19-17 10:12 PM - Post#222601    

  • TigerFan Said:
Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.



Oh yeah, that's a great bet. He really had them ready last week. It was 42-14 at the half.

Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2814
02-19-17 10:35 PM - Post#222610    

If Penn plays anything like they did today, it won't matter what Cornell does.
Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2967
02-20-17 11:08 AM - Post#222642    

So the issue that continues to perplex me is why -- no matter the competition -- we always play close games and why we usually fail to close out these games. We seem to get to the same place whether we are playing Princeton or Dartmouth. Either way we always play around the same level as the competition. One constant seems to be the overall strong play of our freshman point guard, who basically keeps us in every game despite his sometimes erratic shooting.

mountainred
Masters Student
Posts 513
02-20-17 11:52 AM - Post#222645    

  • westphillywarrior Said:
  • TigerFan Said:
Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.



Oh yeah, that's a great bet. He really had them ready last week. It was 42-14 at the half.




Not saying Cornell beats Penn, but I doubt the Big Red plays that poorly again.
Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2814
02-20-17 12:25 PM - Post#222648    

Won't matter if the quackers play that well.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3584
02-20-17 12:29 PM - Post#222651    

  • mountainred Said:
  • westphillywarrior Said:
  • TigerFan Said:
Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.



Oh yeah, that's a great bet. He really had them ready last week. It was 42-14 at the half.




Not saying Cornell beats Penn, but I doubt the Big Red plays that poorly again.



That's a good bet since it would be pretty hard to play any worse than Cornell played at The Palestra.

I fully expect a close game on Friday night in Ithaca. the Quakers have accomplished NOTHING yet. They have only come out of a coma and gotten off life support. Still in the ICU.

TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1885
02-20-17 01:44 PM - Post#222667    

Penn can go ahead and look past Cornell if it makes you feel better but Earl has full week to prep for Penn this time and the incentive of sneaking into a tie for the 4th spot. They were leading Princeton down the stretch the last time they played a P on a Friday. Just saying...
Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts 3770
02-20-17 02:23 PM - Post#222673    

A team that started conference play 0-6 and that can barely afford to lose any more games shouldn't be looking past anybody.
Columbia Alum
Junior
Posts 247
02-20-17 03:48 PM - Post#222685    

Penn has the tiebreakers on Cornell and Columbia, only way for either team to get through is to beat penn. Penn are the favorites for 4th and the favorites to win Friday and Saturday, especially given their form over the last 4 games. It's an uphill task for Columbia, if we don't get to 7-7 while beating penn, I would count the tourney out.
Mike Porter
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Posts 3618
Mike Porter
02-20-17 04:37 PM - Post#222697    

This is one Penn fan that thinks next weekend will be a full on battle both nights. Cornell has shown it can play close to just about any Ivy team on any given night and this is at home for them. All Penn has done is come back from being dead in the water to being back in the playoff mix. We started 0-6 and equally have shown we can lose to anyone... it's far from over.
yoyo
Senior
Posts 363
02-20-17 04:52 PM - Post#222701    

Penn has no chance. Columbia has this in the bag
Columbia Alum
Junior
Posts 247
02-20-17 05:22 PM - Post#222708    

Nice yoyo, I guess Princeton isn't making the tourney either and Dartmounth's a shoe in?
Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2814
02-20-17 07:24 PM - Post#222736    

Hey YoYo,
Love yo bravado.
Everyone shufflin' they feet,
While YOU got the mojo!
LionFan
Senior
Posts 398
02-20-17 07:52 PM - Post#222743    

Chet, I remember under Smith there were one or two similar seasons of close losses and playing down to the competition before the team finally got over the hump. They seem to need a certain toughness that they're near having (except for Smith who looks like he's got it). But I think they'll get there. The recent comebacks bode well. If they get it right away, there's a chance for the playoffs. If not, then maybe next year if the bigs develop quickly or the year after if they don't.
internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3400
02-22-17 07:37 PM - Post#223055    

A tweet from MBB has Voss as a starter, perhaps Killingsworth.
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internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3400
02-22-17 08:02 PM - Post#223058    

AD site has Coby and Hunter.
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internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3400
02-24-17 10:06 PM - Post#223435    

Pr 64-45; it wasn't that close. Smith outstanding in the first half, not the 2nd!
Penn beat Cor 69-66.
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Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2173
02-24-17 10:45 PM - Post#223450    

Columbia needs to defeat Penn tomorrow night to stay in the race.
Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2967
02-24-17 10:53 PM - Post#223452    

What a flop from the senior class on senior weekend. One chance for redemption.

cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2203
02-24-17 11:08 PM - Post#223456    

We were pretty much shut down tonight. Wherever there is a vulnerability, whether it is Smith's height or our defense against three point shooting, Princeton exploited it. The only positive signs were Smith's first half and a few plays by Tape that hint at his potential,


Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2814
02-24-17 11:38 PM - Post#223458    

I was very impressed by Tape. Has huge upside. Both teams failed to take advantage of the other offensively in first half. I kept thinking that we should have had the game put away. But there were probably many Lion fans who felt the same way about us. Good defense. Not so good ball movement.
cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2203
02-24-17 11:49 PM - Post#223459    

Yes he does. But it probably won't be realized until next year when he plays alongside Faulds.
Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2173
02-25-17 12:11 AM - Post#223463    

Our two best players tonight were freshmen--Mike Smith and Patrick Tape. They scored nearly all of Columbia's points in the first half to keep us in the game after the team's miserable start. Our outside shooting was awful and except for Tape our big men were ineffective. Princeton took care of business early in the second half by shooting successfully over our zone defense. Obviously this team misses Meisner greatly.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 4910
02-25-17 12:38 AM - Post#223468    

Tape's hook shot got my attention. It looked pretty pure and he got it off very quickly. If that thing is repeatable, look out.
cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2203
02-25-17 11:38 AM - Post#223504    

True. During a game in which we looked pretty enfeebled, a couple of Smith's drives and Tape's hook shot were the only displays of real artistry.
internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3400
02-25-17 05:28 PM - Post#223558    

Isaac Cohen back for Penn game.
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