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internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3399
02-28-17 05:07 PM - Post#224042    

ESPN3 site says it will cover it.
http://www.espn.com/watchespn/index/_/cha nnel/espn...
west coast fan

cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2201
03-03-17 01:44 PM - Post#224426    

Win this one, and we force Penn to defeat Harvard. Interestingly, KP has both Brown against us, and P vs. H as one point favorites. But I think Penn will be hard pressed to beat Harvard, and if we can beat Brown, it would greatly reduce my complexity fatigue from trying to figure the other paths for getting into the tournament.
Columbia Alum
Junior
Posts 247
03-03-17 08:56 PM - Post#224513    

Unless Dartmouth beats penn, it's looking a lot like the end of our tourney run. Down 23 at the half, don't think we're coming back from this one. If Penn wins tonight too many things have to go one way for us to have a reasonable shot.
cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2201
03-03-17 09:58 PM - Post#224567    

The pendulum swings the other way, and we play terribly--outrebounded by 25, and lose by 20. But Penn loses to Dartmouth, so we're still in this thing.
Columbia Alum
Junior
Posts 247
03-03-17 10:37 PM - Post#224584    

Time to forget this game, prep for Yale, try to beat them, hope that Princeton beats D and Brown beats Cornell, and Harvard beats Penn.
cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2201
03-03-17 10:42 PM - Post#224588    

Yes, that's not a very dignified way to make the tournament, but since it's our only option, I guess we'll have to take it.
Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2958
03-03-17 10:56 PM - Post#224595    

Why didn't our coaches have this team ready to play? Disgraceful performance which makes me wonder if JE has what it takes.

Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3988
03-03-17 11:07 PM - Post#224602    

Give Brown a little credit.
Columbia Alum
Junior
Posts 247
03-03-17 11:18 PM - Post#224607    

Brown shot well from 3 and rebounded very well. Columbia gave up 50% of defensive boards to Brown. This was a disgrace, our defense was disgraceful, Chet is right on this one.
Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2163
03-03-17 11:28 PM - Post#224609    

Confusing, but it seems to me that Columbia still gets into the tournament unless Penn defeats Harvard tomorrow night and we lose to Yale in which case Penn would be 6-8 and we would be 5-9. If both Columbia and Penn lose tomorrow night, Columbia would take fourth place unless Dartmouth upsets Princeton in which event Dartmouth would finish in a three-way with Columbia and Penn and also win the tie-breaker. I'm not sure I understand what happens in the event Cornell defeats Brown or vice-versa. if Cornell defeats Brown, Cornell would still finish 4-10, which would be one game behind Columbia and Penn, whereas if Brown wins it would finish in a three-way tie with Columbia and Penn. In that case, I'm uncertain who gets the 4th place spot, although it might be Columbia.
whitakk
Masters Student
Posts 523
03-03-17 11:35 PM - Post#224612    

Columbia wins any tie at 5-9 that does not include Dartmouth.

Full list of scenarios (I think) here:

http://www.nycbuckets.com/2017/03/updated-ivy-l eag...
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3578
03-04-17 02:02 AM - Post#224638    

  • Columbia 37P6 Said:
Confusing, but it seems to me that Columbia still gets into the tournament unless Penn defeats Harvard tomorrow night and we lose to Yale in which case Penn would be 6-8 and we would be 5-9. If both Columbia and Penn lose tomorrow night, Columbia would take fourth place unless Dartmouth upsets Princeton in which event Dartmouth would finish in a three-way with Columbia and Penn and also win the tie-breaker. I'm not sure I understand what happens in the event Cornell defeats Brown or vice-versa. if Cornell defeats Brown, Cornell would still finish 4-10, which would be one game behind Columbia and Penn, whereas if Brown wins it would finish in a three-way tie with Columbia and Penn. In that case, I'm uncertain who gets the 4th place spot, although it might be Columbia.



The Brown v Cornell result only matters if both C and Penn win.
LionFan
Senior
Posts 398
03-04-17 04:44 AM - Post#224645    

Columbia doesn't deserve post season play. It's that simple. And I wouldn't blame the coaches. Engels has proved he can coach, but he can't play the game for the guys. At this level, each player is responsible for bringing his game, and the guys just didn't. CU lost this one on the boards. Rebounding is about desire as much as coaching, so that speaks volumes. One hopes this is a learning phase for a young team. Must be frustrating for the seniors.
Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2958
03-04-17 06:53 AM - Post#224647    

No apparent motivation on our part. It felt to me as if our seniors ended their season last Saturday night by winning the Penn game. By and large we have been a bad team the second time through the league.

Charlie Fog
Masters Student
Posts 586
03-04-17 08:46 AM - Post#224652    

Penn doesn't either,

Signed,

Penn Fan
Murph
Masters Student
Posts 626
03-04-17 12:03 PM - Post#224685    

Wow. Another stinker. I really don't understand how this team can be so good one night and so bad the next.

As other have pointed out, the biggest disaster seems to be rebounding. Not to disparage Brown, but to get out-rebounded by more than 2:1 is pathetic.

It really makes one appreciate Cohen, Rosenberg and Lo, and the work they did on the glass...especially Cohen. Intellectually, I was always aware of what a great rebounder (and interior defender) Cohen was. But it's still shocking to see how bad we are on the boards in his absence.

We've now lost 6 out of the last 7.
SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6391
03-04-17 02:04 PM - Post#224720    

Maybe next year they should add a rule where no more than 4 teams qualify for the tournament, but you have to go .500 to get in.

Then give Princeton a bye if the season breaks down like this year.

For this year, hopefully somebody out of Columbia, Penn, and Dartmouth wins tonight against a playoff team. That will at least make it feel like they did something to get in (and maybe change our perspectives that we don't deserve it). Columbia backing in at 5-9 if everybody loses will certainly seem pretty weak.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1871
03-04-17 03:23 PM - Post#224726    

LionFan said:

  • Quote:
Columbia doesn't deserve post season play. It's that simple.



Well Penn really doesn't deserve home court advantage so the Lions sneaking in as #4 would be the lesser of two stinkers in my book. Hope you guys shock Yale tonight.

Go Tigers!
Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts 3614
Mike Porter
03-04-17 06:32 PM - Post#224757    

Yeah don't feel bad Columbia fans... another Penn fan here who thinks if we can't beat Dartmouth, we don't derserve to be in the playoffs. If we somehow surprise and beat Harvard tonight and manage to get in, I'll feel a little better about it, but I think it's a real long shot.

If Columbia and Penn both lose tonight, I hope Dartmouth shocks the world and beats Princeton and then at least somebody actually won a game to make it.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 4894
03-04-17 07:50 PM - Post#224775    

PU with a 52-22 halftime lead, so the world will really be shocked if Dartmouth pulls this one out.
Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts 3614
Mike Porter
03-04-17 07:53 PM - Post#224777    

Haha impressive by your Tigers for sure. All the more reason Penn's loss was so terrible.
Columbia Alum
Junior
Posts 247
03-04-17 08:00 PM - Post#224782    

Dartmouth isn't coming back from 30 down. So if Brown loses today, we have nothing to play for against Yale, we win and penn wins we out, we lose and penn loses we in. We'll be at the mercy of the penn game if brown loses.



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