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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 
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03-13-17 10:21 AM - Post#226716
I figured that a new thread is probably needed. Here is a preview with lots of stats and videos. "Press Virginia" is not going to be easy, but they are beatable. I think that it will come down to handling the ball and three point shots. If the Bison can take care of these two items, it will be an exciting game. If not . . . https://campusinsiders.com/news/west-virginia-vs -b...
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pjm_hoops Sophomore Posts 151 |
03-13-17 10:42 AM - Post#226725
The author of the article isn't too impressed with the Bison. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 
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03-13-17 10:55 AM - Post#226731
Looking at WVU's OOC box scores, the press appeared to wreak havoc. 30 turnovers was a common theme for their mid-major opponents. Fortunately we are better than the teams they have destroyed, but we will still have our hands full. I'm sure they will get their share of turnovers, but if we keep it to 15-20, do not get frustrated when they get a steal, and hit threes, I think we can hang with them and pull the upset. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-13-17 11:13 AM - Post#226735
Just reading West Virginia's blog the press is extremely important to their success. They have the best turnover differential in the nation. I think they force about 9 more turnovers than they turn the ball over. From those turnovers they generate a lot of points. By the West Virignia's board's own admission their half court offense is stagnant. Additionally they are not a very good free throw shooter. Having said that the WVU board is already looking past us. They don't seem to be too intimidated, even though they lost in the first round last year. We will need to handle their press which is obviously an issue. But if we do we can definitely make this a game. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-13-17 11:40 AM - Post#226739
Last year, WVU was 26-8 and KemPom ranked #8 going into the Dance as a #3 seed. Stephen F Austin, who was a very good #14 seed, beat them 70-56. Here is video and post-game notes on the loss to SFA: http://www.wvusports.com/page.cfm?story=29895&... Here is something of interest about the game: "The Mountaineers shot just 30.8 percent from the floor, were unable to convert the numerous transition basket chances they had, turned the basketball over 22 times and were whistled for 27 fouls, including two technicals."
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BreakinBison Sophomore Posts 146 |
03-13-17 02:36 PM - Post#226771
Open Practice Times on Wednesday: Noon - 12:40 p.m.: No. 12 seed Princeton 12:45 - 1:25 p.m.: No. 13 seed Bucknell 1:30 - 2:10 p.m.: No. 5 seed Notre Dame 2:15 - 2:55 p.m.: No. 4 seed West Virginia 4:25 - 5:05 p.m.: No. 1 seed Villanova 5:10 - 5:50 p.m.: No. 8 seed Wisconsin 5:55 - 6:35 p.m.: No. 16 seed New Orleans/Mount St. Mary’s 6:40 - 7:20 p.m.: No. 9 seed Virginia Tech http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/13/heres-can- watch-... |
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BuffaloBison Junior Posts 223 |
03-13-17 02:52 PM - Post#226777
Article about traveling to Buffalo by teams and fans for the next few days: http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/13/major-wint er-sto... |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-13-17 02:56 PM - Post#226780
Surprised the article suggests we will wait to travel until Wednesday. I thought we would leave today like Nova. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 
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03-13-17 03:18 PM - Post#226793
Surprised the article suggests we will wait to travel until Wednesday. I thought we would leave today like Nova. If I'm looking at the same paragraph you are, they were referring to fans traveling. Last I heard, the team was going to be leaving around 3 PM today. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757 
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03-13-17 03:27 PM - Post#226795
Man, I'm bummed. As we were going to drive up ourselves but now my wife is nervous and doesn't want to risk bad roads/weather/getting stuck. Now I'm going to still take an afternoon off workcto make sure I can watch the game. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-13-17 03:40 PM - Post#226799
Mr. Phillie, I don't know if you can do this, but I scheduled a "Buffalo Meeting" at that time. I am cutting out of work to a local sports bar where I will YELL a lot! GO BISON!!!
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raybucknell12 Freshman Posts 54 |
03-13-17 04:48 PM - Post#226810
I was lucky enough to see WVU in person this year (vs. Texas A&M in Morgantown). Their press is quite impressive (the best I've ever seen), but really, outside of that, there's not a whole lot they do that is outstanding. It is definitely a one-dimensional team. As BUFan mentions, if we limit our turnovers to the 15-20 range, I think that we have a shot...a good one, in fact. We are not actually outmatched in size, like we would be against most other major conference schools. We've won games, and more importantly, we know how to win games in spite of turning the ball over a lot (our win vs. Navy in the PL semis, e.g.). Maybe that will help us. Looking forward to seeing/cheering on with whomever will be in Buffalo on Thursday! |
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Paulie777 PhD Student Posts 1767 |
03-13-17 05:30 PM - Post#226826
Here's a great article that has Bucknell upsetting West Virginia. Mentions Zach Thomas. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/20 17/03... I think they can do it. you have to think conceptually like Huggins then take them off their game. Limit rebounds by making baskets. Adjust the pace of play, etc. Once they are off their game, they won't have a clue to get back in it. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-13-17 05:45 PM - Post#226830
I'm drivIng to Bradenton on Thursday afternoon to catch some Pirates spring training ball this weekend. There will be a 2 hour pit stop. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-13-17 07:27 PM - Post#226848
Will we have a pep band? Bus Selinsgrove HS up or have Princeton pull a UNI? They have the right color... |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-13-17 09:47 PM - Post#226871
Sad. True but sad. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-13-17 10:35 PM - Post#226878
http://wvmetronews.com/video/?vid=031317791- 201703... Doug Birdsong have a WVU radio station a preview of the Bison... |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-13-17 11:17 PM - Post#226882
Is it ironic to anyone else that we play the team that is best at what we are worst? Meaning, we've struggled with sloppy passing all season and now we play a first round opponent who's game play is predicated on disruption. Brown, Toomer and Mackenzie have an enormous responsibility in this game. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-14-17 09:27 AM - Post#226902
Zach has to watch the careless pass too. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-14-17 10:17 AM - Post#226912
Zach has to watch the careless pass too. 63, I imagine that we were all thinking about Zack when the topic of sloppy passing was mentioned.
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bowie Freshman Posts 28 |
03-14-17 11:01 AM - Post#226922
My money is on the BISONS!!!! They are pumped! What better motivation than to be listed as the under dogs! They may be nervous and start slow, but they fight and fight!!!! GO BISONS!!!! |
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Paulie777 PhD Student Posts 1767 |
03-14-17 11:15 AM - Post#226930
Bucknell has to disrupt the disruptors. There's no point in trying to handle the ball better thats exactly what they want us to do. Its their game to disrupt us by creating turnovers we would be better off just GIVING THEM THE BALL. That creates a disruption in their game plan. Now we certainly are not going to just give them the ball but we have to disrupt their disruption and create our game and the underdog becomes the favorite because they will not be able to catch up. More baskets lead to less rebounds for them, Think outside the box on the aggressive presses they will have. Change the game around. Don't play into Huggins plans, the emperor really has no clothes. Disrupt their disruption the game becomes easy after that as they will not be able to respond. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800 
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03-14-17 11:41 AM - Post#226939
Mount St. Mary's Mayhem? |
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BuffaloBison Junior Posts 223 |
03-14-17 11:53 AM - Post#226943
Presumably anyone go the game saw the notice that there's a pre-game Bucknell reception,but just in case, this is copied from the email (the email also has a link to register): *** When Thursday, March 16, 2017 Pre-Game Reception Time: 11:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. Where Pre-Game Reception Location: Buffalo Marriott HARBORCENTER 95 Main Street Buffalo, N.Y. 14203 *The reception is about one block away from the arena. Price $15.00 *The reception will include a brunch buffet, assorted drinks and a cash bar. *** Actually, the venue -- HarborCenter -- is more than close to the arena, it's connected. |
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
03-14-17 12:01 PM - Post#226944
Some trivia about Bucknell and the other schools courtesy of the Buffalo News: http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/14/fun-facts- schools-heading-buffalo-n caa-tournament/ Even includes the Orange Bowl victory over the U. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-14-17 01:02 PM - Post#226957
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/b... |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-14-17 01:05 PM - Post#226959
I like it. A leopard cannot change its spots and we are going to turn the ball over. We turned it over all year long and often looked sloppy doing it. Thomas could have 12 turnovers this game by himself! However we can and must do things to rattle them. I think free throws will be huge. Pressure generates fouls and fouls free trips to the line. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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03-14-17 01:53 PM - Post#226971
Some trivia about Bucknell and the other schools courtesy of the Buffalo News: http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/14/fun-facts- schools-heading-buffalo-n caa-tournament/ Even includes the Orange Bowl victory over the U. How many of you remember about 20 years or so ago when live bison roamed the sidelines at football games? A local farmer would bring one to the stadium and parade it around the field. The live Bucky was transported in a pickup truck, IIRC, and the truck could barely handle the shifting weight. This happened several times over a couple of years, but the practice was abandoned. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-14-17 02:19 PM - Post#226977
I wish Ben wouldn't have said that West Virginia should be scared. That wasn't the best thing to say even if it were true. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-14-17 02:26 PM - Post#226982
No love from Lunardi http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=1889803 1 |
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BreakinBison Sophomore Posts 146 |
03-14-17 03:11 PM - Post#226989
Press Virginia...just keep attacking (and hit your shots): "Whatever variation of the press West Virginia runs, opposing coaches say the key to beating it is to attack in transition when you cross mid-court with numbers in your favor. Quick shots can accelerate the pace and feed into the Mountaineers’ hands when they misfire, but otherwise there’s no penalty for employing full-court pressure." http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-west-virgini as-pr... |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-14-17 03:47 PM - Post#226998
A shot from the team's practice today https://mobile.twitter.com/bucknell_mbb/status/8 41... |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-14-17 04:50 PM - Post#227005
There are some similarities to Kansas here. WVU like KU staggered home this season. Both were very highly ranked during the year. (Kansas had been #1, though they were around 20 at tourney time.) It is an everything to gain, nothing to lose game for ND and the Bison. The fact that the Mountaineers lost in round 1 last year is not helpful imo, in fact quite the opposite. Fwiw the Bison tourney wins were both on Friday, another bad sign. 86, and 88 were blowouts, and figured to be even before we knew who we were playing. 2011 was more of the same. Lots of pundits picked us for the upset in that one. Shows what they know. This one we are virtually nobodies pick, and it would appear rightfully so. Our worst loss this year was to Butler. Who did we play that most resembles WVU, Butler. Oops! Maybe we learned something, and hopefully we are better now than we were then. Some of us used to believe that Flannery's system took advantage of our players greater intelligence. Somewhat elitist, but nonetheless true. ND was there for the Flannery tourney wins (as was John Griffin), and while it is not the same slowdown system, featuring the matchup, maybe Davis' and Griffin's mere presence will play a roll. We just may be able to outsmart our opponent again. Our "smarts" will correlate directly with our shooting %. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-14-17 04:58 PM - Post#227007
I expect the Bison to play deliberate other than when they easily break the press. At those times, they should attack. GO BISON!
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-14-17 05:47 PM - Post#227020
I am optimistic that Coaches Davis and Griffin have something up their sleeves to deal with the press, limit turnovers, and score some easy transition buckets. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-14-17 06:23 PM - Post#227025
Nice article on Ben Oberfeld. http://www.dailyitem.com/sports/men-s-basketba ll-o... |
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newbisonfan Freshman Posts 39 |
03-14-17 10:28 PM - Post#227037
Well deserved, the kid has been through a lot. |
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HoleinOne Masters Student Posts 596 |
03-15-17 09:53 AM - Post#227062
Less concerned about WVU press as I am about Bison defense. In first half of both the Navy and Leigh games, their guards seemed to be able to drive by us at will. WVU guards faster, quicker, and more athletic. Davis was Flannery's Defensive Coach so hoping he has some stops up his sleeve. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-15-17 09:57 AM - Post#227065
I am definitely concerned about the WVU press and our committing turnovers in general. But I agree that we have allowed far too much penetration by opposing guards. Even Stephen Brown has looked overmatched in that area. So yeah, it would be nice to throw in an effective zone to help limit those drives and to give our guys a small modicum of rest. |
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
03-15-17 10:23 AM - Post#227074
I agree with you Phillie on the turnover issues. I am also concerned about the slip screen at the top of the key and giving up layups! Navy really exploited that as did Lehigh part of the game. I thought Bruce did a better job on defending that as he had better spacing. I am sure Huggins watched a fair amount of video on the team lets hope it was not the last navy game. |
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BuffaloBison Junior Posts 223 |
03-15-17 03:32 PM - Post#227143
Two new articles in Buffalo News, one on Kimbal Mackenzie (sort of a local kid), http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/15/bucknells- kimbal... and one on Zach Thomas, http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/15/amid-oppor tuniti... |
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
03-15-17 03:58 PM - Post#227147
How'd you miss this one? http://www.theindependent.com/sports/colleges/g-i-n ative-in-ncaa-tournament- with-bucknell/article_e6e af7a0-0926-11e7-a6d9-37b0 cfc37bf8.html |
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BuffaloBison Junior Posts 223 |
03-15-17 04:04 PM - Post#227149
Maybe because that's about Grand Island, Nebraska, not Grand Island, NY? |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-15-17 04:35 PM - Post#227152
Two new articles in Buffalo News, one on Kimbal Mackenzie (sort of a local kid), http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/15/bucknells- kimbal... and one on Zach Thomas, http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/15/amid-oppor tuniti... Kimball link isn't working for me and I couldn't find the story on my own. |
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BreakinBison Sophomore Posts 146 |
03-15-17 05:38 PM - Post#227156
Here you go BRW: http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/15/bucknells- kimbal... Was that you in the background at shootaround today? |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-15-17 06:32 PM - Post#227163
I was there...good eye! |
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
03-15-17 07:23 PM - Post#227167
Maybe because that's about Grand Island, Nebraska, not Grand Island, NY? Possibly. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-15-17 09:00 PM - Post#227175
Tournament preview - the guys sound confident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixP0ynoxX8g |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-15-17 10:34 PM - Post#227183
Well, I guess Obama has faith... https://twitter.com/bucknell_bison/status /84212825... |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-15-17 10:35 PM - Post#227184
Just hope it goes better than his last endorsement 
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-16-17 09:41 AM - Post#227200
Have no fear fellow Bucknell fans. I am wearing the same gray Bucknell Bison Basketball shirt that I wore when the Bison knocked off Bill Self and his Kansas Jayhawks. The mojo is in play today. Also, I booked the conference room at work starting at 2:40 for a "Buffalo Meeting". GO BISON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 10:27 AM - Post#227208
I do like the attitude of the coaching staff and team. They know WVU is a tough opponent with all that they do defensively but you cannot go into a game like this timid or afraid. And I think the Bison have a better skill set in some areas than the Mountaineers. Hopefully those skills can be on display and the guys can play well early and gain even more confidence. Not the best draw for them but I'm glad they are embracing the opportunity and going out to compete and hopefully get a win. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 10:39 AM - Post#227210
Gregg Doyel, precious of CBS now of Indy Star, is also picking us. https://twitter.com/greggdoyelstar/status /84221607... |
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BreakinBison Sophomore Posts 146 |
03-16-17 11:27 AM - Post#227213
Open Practice Highlights from yesterday in Buffalo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnv_V1747m4 Go Bison! |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-16-17 01:42 PM - Post#227266
Watching Princeton/Notre Dame, rooting for ND. Do not believe we will see 2 upsets back to back in the same venue, so l am holding out for us. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-16-17 02:33 PM - Post#227316
Let's get er done! |
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dirtynine Sophomore Posts 127 |
03-16-17 03:03 PM - Post#227325
Good start. WVU doesn't have that "scary" look. Reminds me of Arkansas in fact. BU doesn't seem intimidated by the stage. Let's go! |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 03:03 PM - Post#227326
Good start for Bucknell except for giving up offensive boards. Some are long rebounds but still, have to get a handle on that. Nana getting it done so far on offense. C'mon Bison!! |
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dirtynine Sophomore Posts 127 |
03-16-17 03:06 PM - Post#227327
Love the home run heart attack press break! |
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dirtynine Sophomore Posts 127 |
03-16-17 03:11 PM - Post#227329
Not a good few minutes. Gotta stop the momentum here. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 03:13 PM - Post#227330
Too much inside scoring for WVU and now their hitting threes. We've missed numerous layups and putbacks and we just can't do that. Kimbal having a rough first half. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-16-17 03:14 PM - Post#227331
Without Nana on the court we have been whooped. Bruce missing layups. Thomas can't get going. Good game by Brown and Toomer |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-16-17 03:14 PM - Post#227332
They look like deer caught in the headlights...missing easy layups, allowing easy looks. Need a massive regroup |
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dirtynine Sophomore Posts 127 |
03-16-17 03:23 PM - Post#227338
I have faith. They took the run and hung in. Gonna be close down the stretch. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 03:29 PM - Post#227340
Doing a good job overall against the press but Adrian is killing us. Making him look like an All-American. |
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pjm_hoops Sophomore Posts 151 |
03-16-17 03:36 PM - Post#227342
These guys are a handful. We weathered the storm so far. Just need to hang around and keep it close for the rest of the half. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-16-17 03:42 PM - Post#227345
Zach's defense is....lacking....actually his whole game so far today is |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 03:45 PM - Post#227346
We def can hang with this team. On offense it seems we are picking up the dribble and holding it near mid-court and getting in trouble. Actually we are doing that all over the floor and Zach is a big offender. Other than a few nice passes against the press, Zach hasn't played very well. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-16-17 03:49 PM - Post#227347
Like there is no other way to put it...Zach has been horrible. Not guarding Adrian well, picking up his dribble constantly, and turning it over on the press. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-16-17 03:51 PM - Post#227348
Had to hold for last shot there. Big mistake. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-16-17 03:54 PM - Post#227349
We can play with these guys. Just need something out of Thomas. |
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BreakinBison Sophomore Posts 146 |
03-16-17 03:55 PM - Post#227350
Agreed..that wasn't a smart play. Love Nate in there for D and length but he needs to slow it down on offense. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-16-17 03:57 PM - Post#227351
I think part of the problem is that WVU has been disrupting our half court offense so much, they took the opportunity to shoot an open shot. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-16-17 04:32 PM - Post#227358
Hanging around |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-16-17 04:36 PM - Post#227359
Good to see Zach being aggressive. Bring Nana back. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-16-17 04:46 PM - Post#227360
We need to remember how to break a 1-3-1 defense |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 04:48 PM - Post#227361
Somehow have to stop offensive rebounds and hit some shots. We can def win this! |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-16-17 04:54 PM - Post#227363
Layups Kimbal |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 04:58 PM - Post#227364
Unfortunately we missed our fair share of close shots today...Zach, Bruce, Kimbal.... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-16-17 04:59 PM - Post#227366
I believe. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-16-17 05:07 PM - Post#227368
Nate Jones. Why? |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 05:10 PM - Post#227369
Overall gave a great showing today...just too many offensive rebounds allowed and bench scoring was non-existent (although Davis did not play his bench at all like he did during the season.) Offense was falling into the traps too many times as well. But we hit shots in the second half. An awesome season, nonetheless. Proud to be a Bison fan! |
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dirtynine Sophomore Posts 127 |
03-16-17 05:14 PM - Post#227370
Proud of this team. They have the taste. Sweet 16 next year. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548 
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03-16-17 05:15 PM - Post#227371
Great effort, great season, next season can't come soon enough |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-16-17 05:24 PM - Post#227374
I'm proud too. We were not outclassed at all. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 05:32 PM - Post#227376
Definitely have disappointment because I never felt that WVU was far superior to us. When we played UConn and lost big that disappointment was tempered by the fact UConn was simply a much better team. The Butler loss was disappointing but it was clear they were better...but we weren't too far behind. This year, I don't think any of that was true. We can hang with them, period. |
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HoleinOne Masters Student Posts 596 |
03-16-17 05:35 PM - Post#227377
Maybe this will demonstrate to some of the old guard at Holy Cross that they don't need to leave the Patriot League to find good talent. Sorry-living near Worchester, couldn't resist. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-16-17 05:52 PM - Post#227384
One hell of a game. Tremendous heart and effort. They showed great poise in the face of the press. Very proud of the team. Thank you to the seniors, and very excited for the core we have returning next year. Kimball has shown awesome stuff in big spots. |
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
03-16-17 05:54 PM - Post#227385
Proud of this team. They have the taste. Sweet 16 next year. Perhaps a stretch, but not a great one. What is it, top nine in minutes played coming back? Who knows how things will play out, but this team certainly could be a top 50 team next year -- and maybe a mid-range top 50. 2005-2006 all over again? |
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mcapodee Sophomore Posts 156 |
03-16-17 06:03 PM - Post#227389
Foulland found another gear maybe a third of the way through this season and has been dominating ever since. No high majors are going to want to schedule us next year if they watched this game. It will be really tough to get the RPI up to high-40s, low-50s to avoid a 13/14 seed if no one is willing to play us. Maybe Coach Wright's postgame visit to the locker room was to offer a game next year because he was so proud of his alma mater. |
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
03-16-17 06:11 PM - Post#227393
I agree we got crushed on the offensive glass. We need more length and to be able to box out better. But no one coaches that anymore. I thought they played pretty well. Kimbal looks like the next 2 years will be special for him and the team overall next year should be a bit better. I was a bit disappointed that Davis again did not call time at the 8 second mark to dump the bench. The game was over at that point. I really do not like that. |
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Bison7882 Junior Posts 253 
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03-16-17 06:16 PM - Post#227394
I'm disappointed only because we have such high expectations! We didn't play our best today but hung with a team that beat Baylor (when #1) and Kansas. Next year should be special. I hope that an uncommitted HS big who has really progressed this season was impressed and signs with Bucknell this spring. And I agree with HoleinOne: There's no reason a PL team can't play with the big boys! |
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oldschoolbb54 Freshman Posts 44 |
03-16-17 06:22 PM - Post#227396
Could not agree more, about letting Matt and Ben get into the books. |
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MangyOne Freshman Posts 96 
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03-16-17 06:41 PM - Post#227398
No question that I'm proud of the Bison today. True, the offensive boards hurt us, as did the press, and, not complaining, but Zach wasn't himself today. But he did seem to rally near the end, which speaks volume about his character. However, that being said, look at the result. We hung tough all day, came back after that mid-first half slump, and made it a game. Kimball and Nana played a GREAT game, as did Brown. Kimball and Nana have progressed so far since the season started, I can't help but be very excited about next year. 2005 again  No matter what the experts thought, as soon as WVU started pulling away, the Bison would roar back and we kept it close. Remember, for us to keep it close with so little bench help shows how great the guys did - they had to be running on empty near the end, but they kept coming back. Truly a sign of the class and talent of the team and Coach Davis. It was enjoyable near the end when Huggins appeared to start sweating and losing it a few times. Contrast that to the class of Nathan. To the entire team - hold your head high - you made all of us proud. GO BISON - can't wait for next season |
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
03-16-17 07:03 PM - Post#227401
Zach has a head cold that may have effected his performance. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-16-17 07:33 PM - Post#227405
I'm not upset with his performance. I thought they played well and the game was competitive. |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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03-16-17 07:52 PM - Post#227410
Zach was battling on breaking the press and did a great job there. That helped in ways that didn't show in the stats. Also, except for Nana's foul problem (especially the lousy 4th) Nana, Zach Kimbal and Stephen all played a lot of minutes and left nothing in the tank. Thanks for a great, exciting season to the whole team. And thanks for the great four years to John, DJ and Ben O. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-16-17 07:53 PM - Post#227411
It was a very good showing, something to be proud of. We all know what the issues were in this game. But we should be even better next year so there is a lot to take out of this loss. At the very least they won't be intimidated next year if we get to the tourney. I think that there was a stretch in the first half where they were a bit intimidated. Next year they will go into any game with a power conference team that they're good enough to compete and win. I hope they take today as a morivating factor, work hard in the offseason and really be dominant next year. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-16-17 08:30 PM - Post#227412
It's shame Zach wasn't 100% today. May have prevented a few more offensive RBs. A couple of made 3's would have shaken up the dynamic of this game. Also, wish the freshmen had stepped up a little more, especially Bruce. But a great team effort overall. Stephen with only one turnover! Nana was great inside and handled the ball well against the pressure. Was scared when Kimbal almost air-balled his first 3, but not to fear. By far the best NCAA game by a PL team since 2013 - maybe 2012. Congrats to the coaching staff and the guys for preparing so well for a tough, big, athletic opponent. |
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Paulie777 PhD Student Posts 1767 |
03-16-17 09:00 PM - Post#227414
The Bison showed a lot of poise today. A lot to look forward to next year. A solid first round contender next year and possible sweet 16. Wow. |
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HoleinOne Masters Student Posts 596 |
03-16-17 09:47 PM - Post#227417
Not sure why so much negative press for Zack. Brought the ball up, rebounded ok, etc. He gave away 4 inches and 40 pounds. Nana may have been a better defensive match up. My only issue was more coaching-he could have been more aggressive shooting. Would love this same opportunity next year=Thomas would get 20+ points based on 15 ft. shots. |
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BreakinBison Sophomore Posts 146 |
03-16-17 09:51 PM - Post#227419
I think Zach was gassed..he was battling Adrian on the defensive side of the ball for pretty much the entire game. |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-16-17 10:16 PM - Post#227420
Which WVU player is 6'11" 270? |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-16-17 10:24 PM - Post#227421
From 10-10 to down 15 in about 2.3 seconds, that was a character demonstrating comeback. WVU was just too much off the offensive boards. But our guys did themselves proud. This was a far better team than the Butler team we lost to in 2013, and while we led that game momentarily, I thought we competed better today. I'd say this was our best losing performance in the dance to date. Now let's find the winning formula again. Sweet 16 sounds nice. Congrats to the guys and the staff! |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-17-17 12:43 AM - Post#227425
C'mon to say that Zach had a good game is ridiculous. First of all Adrian is 2 inches taller than him and about equally as athletic. There is no doubt that if you watched the game he had a bigger impact on the game than Zach did. Zach was a black hole on offense, constantly picking up his dribble (in the half court offense and in the press) and creating nothing offensively. He is also playing our four. We were so badly outrebounded and him being our 4 he has to take a large part of the blame. Especially when you consider how we got dominated when Nana was out. You want to say I'm being harsh, maybe it's true. All I know was after the game West Va players and huggins were gushing about Nana and Kimball. No one even mentioned Zach. Going into this season I think we all thought that Zach would be our best player. It hasn't worked out that way...Nana is, but that has more to do with Nana than Zach, because Zach has been great. But Zach wasn't great today, not at all. Hopefully this game motivates him for next year. We need to dominate the PL next year |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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03-17-17 08:00 AM - Post#227435
Its not fair to put this on Zach. The matchup was difficult, and this is not a PL team we were playing. Just maybe, the fact that we used our other bigs much less contributed (Nate S, Bruce); and maybe some more help on defense would have made a difference. Maybe not. Zach seemed to be handling the ball more in the press than the 3 was, and that spot could have been used more. Offensive rebounds were the real killer here, some of which is luck and some of which was the simple size advantage. And some was fatigue. More minutes played by the starters than usual, and I thought that showed late in the game. (Someone said Zach wasn't 100% with a cold). In many of our games lately we had second half surges against teams that used less bench (think Lehigh). That was reversed last night. |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-17-17 08:36 AM - Post#227440
Its not fair to put this on Zach. The matchup was difficult, and this is not a PL team we were playing. Just maybe, the fact that we used our other bigs much less contributed (Nate S, Bruce); and maybe some more help on defense would have made a difference. Maybe not. Zach seemed to be handling the ball more in the press than the 3 was, and that spot could have been used more. Offensive rebounds were the real killer here, some of which is luck and some of which was the simple size advantage. And some was fatigue. More minutes played by the starters than usual, and I thought that showed late in the game. (Someone said Zach wasn't 100% with a cold). In many of our games lately we had second half surges against teams that used less bench (think Lehigh). That was reversed last night. I'm not trying to put it all on Zach...the difference in the game for me was in two places. One was the 6-0 run in the last minute of the first half that made the lead 9 instead of 3 and us getting killed on the boards. But I was disappointed in Zach because out of all the starters he didn't play up to his potential or what he was capable of. He had a bad game, he wasn't the reason we lost but it left something to be desired. I hope it motivates him for next year and burns a fire within him. In regards to the bench I thought that we should have played Moore more. His size and athleticism would have helped on the defensive side and rebounding alone...something we really needed. Inwas surprised how much Nate Jones played, considering how little of an impact he seemed to have. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-17-17 08:56 AM - Post#227442
Moore played poorly for the few minutes he was in. If he'd been playing better, I agree he could have helped with rebounding. Cut Zach a break. He's had a great year, but clearly wasn't himself yesterday. |
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vic42 Freshman Posts 68 |
03-17-17 09:00 AM - Post#227443
Overall, this was a great effort. Foulland, Brown & Mackenzie had great games. If he was calling the game, Raftery would have complimented them as having "onions"! Thomas didn't cost us the game. He did have a subpar outing, but, I can't accept a head cold as the reason. I think the main reason is he cannot play an effective 4 against the power conference teams. I also think he is not interested in mixing it up too much with these big boys. Again, great effort & certainly a great sign for next year. Here, also, I must caution about over exuberance. Let's win one game before we start thinking about the sweet 16........... |
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Shot Clock Masters Student Posts 883 |
03-17-17 09:14 AM - Post#227444
Proud of the team. Showed that they can compete with a top team. Just could not quite over the hump. Looking forward to next year.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-17-17 09:17 AM - Post#227445
Moore and Toomer looked like freshmen today but I thought the Nate Jones minutes were head scratching. |
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03-17-17 09:41 AM - Post#227446
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Overall, this was a great effort. Foulland, Brown & Mackenzie had great games. If he was calling the game, Raftery would have complimented them as having "onions"! Thomas didn't cost us the game. He did have a subpar outing, but, I can't accept a head cold as the reason. I think the main reason is he cannot play an effective 4 against the power conference teams. I also think he is not interested in mixing it up too much with these big boys. Again, great effort & certainly a great sign for next year. Here, also, I must caution about over exuberance. Let's win one game before we start thinking about the sweet 16........... I don't think Zach had a particularly bad game. Yes, his shooting was off a bit but he did produce 13 points on 9 shots. Also six rebounds against a host of much bigger, much stronger, and more rested big men. More importantly, he was charged with an almost impossible job: being the facilitator against what may have been the fiercest press a Bison team has ever faced. In general, he did that job really well.
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raymondbucknell Junior Posts 295 |
03-17-17 11:03 AM - Post#227455
Proud of the whole team, Zach included. Every time it looked like the game might get away from them they came roaring back. There was no quit in these guys. They were well prepared and played with grit. Watch out for us next year. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-17-17 11:06 AM - Post#227456
As I see it, we competed in a game we figured to lose badly. We did not lose because we shot poorly, we shot ok despite missing some bunnies. We did not lose because we mishandled the ball against the WVU press, for the most part we handled it well. We did not lose because Zach picked up his dribble. We lost, just barely, because they owned the offensive boards and killed us with second chance points. To say that that shortcoming was in someway Zach's fault does not compute here. Size matters! Bigger is better! |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-17-17 12:32 PM - Post#227467
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C'mon to say that Zach had a good game is ridiculous. First of all Adrian is 2 inches taller than him and about equally as athletic. There is no doubt that if you watched the game he had a bigger impact on the game than Zach did. Zach was a black hole on offense, constantly picking up his dribble (in the half court offense and in the press) and creating nothing offensively. He is also playing our four. We were so badly outrebounded and him being our 4 he has to take a large part of the blame. Especially when you consider how we got dominated when Nana was out. You want to say I'm being harsh, maybe it's true. All I know was after the game West Va players and huggins were gushing about Nana and Kimball. No one even mentioned Zach. Going into this season I think we all thought that Zach would be our best player. It hasn't worked out that way...Nana is, but that has more to do with Nana than Zach, because Zach has been great. But Zach wasn't great today, not at all. Hopefully this game motivates him for next year. We need to dominate the PL next year I disagree 100% about Zach. It wasn't his best game, but he did a great job facilitating the press break. Also was giving up a huge amount of size to Adrian and got virtually no rest during the game.
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Biggest fan of 5 Freshman Posts 17 |
03-17-17 05:04 PM - Post#227509
I too wonder why Nate Jones played so much after seldom playing during the season and playoffs. Also, why not work the bench more? They got us points all season and it would have been fresh legs too. I personally think Zach is selfish in passing the ball the majority of the time. If you can't get in to get a bucket kick the damn ball out. |
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
03-17-17 08:44 PM - Post#227512
#5 I am not sure that you look at stats. Zach had a great year dishing the ball off to teammates. 137 can help me a bit here but I think he lead the team in assists. I think most posters on this board are glad he is a bison! Let's also not forget he gave up shots the last 2 years to Hass. In finishing my little rant. I would like to say. I have personally talked to not only Zach but to every player on this team and he and his teammates are all very humble kids. We should be glad we have him as a bison. I feel it's time people to put this trash talking to rest and be proud of these fine young men. Looking forward to November! Go Bison! |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-18-17 07:10 AM - Post#227527
That works for me.! Meanwhile, so long to John, DJ and Ben. Thanks for the memories you gave us, and I know you got plenty of them in return. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-18-17 07:44 AM - Post#227528
Wow, I have enjoyed watching hoops the last few days. My wife is telling her friend that she is a hoops widow. Going into the game, we knew that WV has the best press in the country. We knew that the Bison would turn the ball over. The only question was how many turn overs will the Bison have? In general, the Bison could have done much worse against the press. Other than 2 or 3 short stretches, the Bison handled the press fairly well. Some members of this board might think that I am wrong, but to a certain extent, I feel that Zach played like Zach has all season when facing a pressing defense. If you look back at the first Navy game when he committed turn overs on 3-4 straight plays against the press, he really has not progressed when it comes to handling the ball and being smart with passes. I do not think that the coaches should have had him handle the ball so much when it is not his strength. (I am not criticizing Zack. I think that he is a great player. I am just commenting on what I have seen.) As for the Team, I could not be more proud. They played very hard against a much bigger team. They showed that a good PL team can play with anybody. Next season will be interesting. With Nova losing 3 starters and probably having a down season next year, I would be shocked if they want the Bison anywhere near Nova Nation. As for the rest of D-1, I think that the Bison should be willing to play anybody anywhere anytime. It will be lots of fun. Thank you, Seniors!!!
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-18-17 11:07 AM - Post#227538
Again, it was a fantastic season with many great memories. My favorite winter activity is Bison basketball and the coaches and players did a fabulous job all year. I hope it was fun for them. Yes, I am critical at times but I never do not have respect for their abilities on the court and in the classroom. I wish the seniors all the best and thank them for their contribution to Bucknell basketball. As for the game, I think we handled the press fairly well. Seems we had more trouble with the pressure trapping once they got past half court and into their offense. And I do think that picking up the dribble and not having a clear plan as to what to do with the ball in those situations hurt the offense and caused turnovers. But it seems allowing a ton of offensive rebounds and second chance points was the biggest killer. Stephen, Nana and Kimbal obviously had fantastic games. I'd say Zach had an okay game overall. Avi struggled a little but was fine overall. Our bench was not what it typically is but also, they were not in there very often. At the end of the day the guys should be proud of the effort and the result...maybe not happy with the result because just a few things here and there could have the Bison playing ND today. Cannot wait for next season! |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-18-17 01:12 PM - Post#227549
Notre Dame trails West Virginia by seven at the half. If West Virginia hadnt missed a lot of fairly easy shots, the margin could be much larger. ND is having more trouble against the press then the bison did and they are struggling to stay with the West Virginia players when they are in man-to-man.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-18-17 01:34 PM - Post#227550
I really thought that if we could somehow get by WVU that we could have a decent opportunity to hang with and defeat ND. Colson would've been a lot to handle but I think if we were shooting well we could've taken them. Lol, I was already thinking Sweet 16 when Bucknell got to within 63-60 of WVU. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-18-17 03:45 PM - Post#227561
I didn't watch the game, but had a eye on the score. Sounds like we gave WVU a tougher time than ND. It takes luck along with everything else to win in this tournament. Just seemed like WVU got more of the lucky bounces than us. The guys should certainly be proud of their accomplishments. This ought to make them hungry for next year. |
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Biggest fan of 5 Freshman Posts 17 |
03-18-17 07:14 PM - Post#227577
I look at stats and watch every game of the Bison. Some things don't show in stats like an attitude or personality. The bench should have played more and would have made an impact in the second half. Each time Zach has an off game it is said that he has the flu or now a head cold. Just chalk it up to we all have bad days. No excuses needed. I too talk to the players as well. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-18-17 07:53 PM - Post#227578
I look at stats and watch every game of the Bison. Some things don't show in stats like an attitude or personality. The bench should have played more and would have made an impact in the second half. Each time Zach has an off game it is said that he has the flu or now a head cold. Just chalk it up to we all have bad days. No excuses needed. I too talk to the players as well. Disagree. And given the strength of the opposition and the role he was asked to play, I thought Zach played well. Watching the game near court side,,it was clear that WVU was the most talented, most athletic, and most physical team the Bison have played in a number of years.
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936
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03-18-17 08:58 PM - Post#227585
Bucknell played way better against WVU than Notre Dame. The experts said WVU was in trouble against ND because they don't turn it over, but ND looked way more flustered by the press than Bucknell was. Gotta give Coach Davis a ton of credit for coming up with a good game plan. |
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Raymond Bucknell Sophomore Posts 179 
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03-18-17 10:09 PM - Post#227604
I look at stats and watch every game of the Bison. Some things don't show in stats like an attitude or personality. The bench should have played more and would have made an impact in the second half. Each time Zach has an off game it is said that he has the flu or now a head cold. Just chalk it up to we all have bad days. No excuses needed. I too talk to the players as well. I'm a fan of 5, too. Not the biggest, clearly. He will be missed. Your apparent anger toward Zach is misappropriated. Guy is as talented as he is selfless. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-18-17 10:44 PM - Post#227626
I will forever be haunted by one particularly lousy foul call on Nana. It may have been foul #3, but he was in a nice, stationary, straight up, arms-over-head defensive posture and they whistled him for a foul. Upon replay, a big portion of the general crowd expressed its dismay. He had such a great game on both ends of the court; having to sit him definitely came with a price. In other news, a Bucknell fan and message board reader asked me if I was Bison89. I can only imagine the crushing disappointment she felt when I said I was merely BisonRoadWarrior. It was a long week in Buffalo. Concerned about flight cancellations, I got there Monday night just as the storm began. Likewise concerned, the MacLeay family drove all the way from San Antonio! |
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Biggest fan of 5 Freshman Posts 17 |
03-18-17 11:03 PM - Post#227644
No anger, must be your feeling as it is not mine. |
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Raymond Bucknell Sophomore Posts 179
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03-18-17 11:05 PM - Post#227646
'ray |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-19-17 12:05 AM - Post#227660
No anger, must be your feeling as it is not mine. If this refers to the Bison89 thing, please know that I was being silly, elevating Bison89 to superstar status. (I have an aversion to emoticons that would have made it clear I was being silly.) |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-19-17 07:03 AM - Post#227662
I think you were quite clear BRW. I believe that the "anger" reference is related to the post prior to yours. |
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
03-19-17 10:25 AM - Post#227670
In other news, a Bucknell fan and message board reader asked me if I was Bison89. How in the world can anyone mistake this guy: http://galleries.buffalonews.com/default.aspx?id=8000#/30 |
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Gmoney89 Masters Student Posts 505 |
03-19-17 11:59 AM - Post#227683
In other news, a Bucknell fan and message board reader asked me if I was Bison89. How in the world can anyone mistake this guy: http://galleries.buffalonews.com/default.aspx?id=8000#/30 What a great picture! Every sinew of every muscle is in tension in that shot! Go BRW
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bowie Freshman Posts 28 |
03-19-17 01:17 PM - Post#227691
I think Bisons played a GREAT game! They handled the press well and never gave up! I also wondered why some players did not get more play time. I think sestina was in for a minute and just getting warmed up before he was out. coach doesn't make good use of him. This team will be back next year and I cant wait!! |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-19-17 01:50 PM - Post#227704
In other news, a Bucknell fan and message board reader asked me if I was Bison89. How in the world can anyone mistake this guy: http://galleries.buffalonews.com/default.aspx?id=8000#/30 |
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HoleinOne Masters Student Posts 596 |
03-19-17 03:57 PM - Post#227726
137 and 42-similar thoughts. Some seem to forget results in part due to coaching decisions and the trade offs made. Davis did a fine job of countering WVU's many strengths-just too many to overcome. Thomas didn't have a great game but many seem to forget his multiple responsibilities this game: -Brought ball up - seemed gassed at end of game. Understandable since he was working hard the entire length of court. -Charged with rebounding against physically bigger team. Since Bison had 3 guards, two small who didn't do great job of boxing out most of game, another tough challenge. -Much of the offense went through him for large part of game. Doubled often. -Few seem to remember he sprained his ankle about 2 weeks ago. Drove well at times, at times appeared mechanical. Nothing really to defend for Thomas or Bison. Proud of their effort. Likely another strong year to come. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-19-17 05:37 PM - Post#227741
I'm not going to pile on Thomas. I find it strange the people who pile on him thought Hass was awesome. You can't have it both ways. And for the record Thomas is a more complete player. Foulland looked like a guy who could be playing major conference basketball. He stood out on the court. Brown also single handedly showed me why he is in the upper tier of our PG's for all time. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-19-17 07:01 PM - Post#227744
137 and 42-similar thoughts. Some seem to forget results in part due to coaching decisions and the trade offs made. Davis did a fine job of countering WVU's many strengths-just too many to overcome. Nathan Davis probably hasn't received enough credit for the job he did all year. Last year's team ranked 173rd in the nation (Pomeroy) and the Bison lost three starters from that team: Chris Hass, 1st-team All-PL; Ryan Frazier, a solid guard who made All-PL defensive team; and Dom Hoffman, a strong rebounder and good defender. Also lost Ben Oberfeld. That's a combined 40% of the 2015-16 minutes lost. Due to those significant losses, the Bison were picked for 3rd in the PL preseason poll, and were picked for 4th on many sites. Despite those losses, BU jumped from 173rd last year to 76th in the 2016-17 rankings, and they won the PL championship in a league that was better than last year. Also Foulland improved significantly, Thomas improved significantly, Mackenzie improved significantly, and Brown improved. That is as much improvement among key players as Bucknell as seen in a long time. Also two freshmen were able to step in and see major minutes, with both playing really well on defense. Kudos to the coaches and the players.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-19-17 07:21 PM - Post#227745
In other news, a Bucknell fan and message board reader asked me if I was Bison89. I can only imagine the crushing disappointment she felt when I said I was merely BisonRoadWarrior. (Please read very sarcastically.) BRW, I know that we have been mistaken for each other many times. We look soooooo similar. I'm 6'-5" 240# with brown hair, and . . . . . you look like a Bison Road Warrior!  I hope that you educated the young lady.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-19-17 07:24 PM - Post#227747
I look at stats and watch every game of the Bison. Some things don't show in stats like an attitude or personality. The bench should have played more and would have made an impact in the second half. Each time Zach has an off game it is said that he has the flu or now a head cold. Just chalk it up to we all have bad days. No excuses needed. I too talk to the players as well. I'm a fan of 5, too. Not the biggest, clearly. He will be missed. Your apparent anger toward Zach is misappropriated. Guy is as talented as he is selfless. Raymond, I don't think that Biggest has any anger toward Zach. At least, I didn't read any. I think that he is just calling it like he sees it. Honesty is not a bad thing.
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03-19-17 07:33 PM - Post#227748
Nathan Davis probably hasn't received enough credit for the job he did all year. Last year's team ranked 173rd in the nation (Pomeroy) and the Bison lost three starters from that team: Chris Hass, 1st-team All-PL; Ryan Frazier, a solid guard who made All-PL defensive team; and Dom Hoffman, a strong rebounder and good defender. Also lost Ben Oberfeld. That's a combined 40% of the 2015-16 minutes lost. Due to those significant losses, the Bison were picked for 3rd in the PL preseason poll, and were picked for 4th on many sites. Despite those losses, BU jumped from 173rd last year to 76th in the 2016-17 rankings, and they won the PL championship in a league that was better than last year. Also Foulland improved significantly, Thomas improved significantly, Mackenzie improved significantly, and Brown improved. That is as much improvement among key players as Bucknell as seen in a long time. Also two freshmen were able to step in and see major minutes, with both playing really well on defense. Kudos to the coaches and the players. Yep, yep, and yep. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-19-17 08:16 PM - Post#227752
And all the Lord's people said "Amen". I think this is a perfect t summary of the season and it paints a wonderful picture of what next can be: Special. Very special. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-19-17 11:39 PM - Post#227765
(Please read very sarcastically.) BRW, I know that we have been mistaken for each other many times. We look soooooo similar. I'm 6'-5" 240# with brown hair, and . . . . . you look like a Bison Road Warrior! I told her that, to her credit, we did have the same Bucknell class year.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-20-17 08:30 PM - Post#227835
Kimbal named Bison Athlete of the Week, for good reason. In case you didn't get enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSreCf1G8N8 |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-21-17 08:59 PM - Post#227865
Post-game press conference - Bucknell part starts about 18:30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm4-NguJ7Vo |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-21-17 09:43 PM - Post#227869
Our guys represent themselves really well in any setting. I loved Coach Davis' answers and attitude of he and his players. Finally, Coach Davis gives far better answers and carries himself much better than Coach Huggins...just my opinion. Bucknell won the press conference, lol. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
03-21-17 09:51 PM - Post#227870
I have to say, as much as I liked Dane Fisher, we got the right man for the job. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-22-17 01:28 PM - Post#227903
It's worth noting he is winning NOW in his system with another coaches recruits too. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-22-17 01:55 PM - Post#227910
It's worth noting he is winning NOW in his system with another coaches recruits too. Somebody please remind me which group of players was Coach Davis' first recruiting class.
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
03-22-17 01:55 PM - Post#227911
Also note that he is not really winning with "his system" as he adjusted to play man-to-man because that better fit his personnel. I believe if he had his personal preference we would have played a lot more of the match-up. Yet he was willing to adjust to the people he had and do what fit them best. A trait we all seemed to call for with the past leadership, that is nice to see now.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-22-17 01:57 PM - Post#227912
Also note that he is not really winning with "his system" as he adjusted to play man-to-man because that better fit his personnel. I believe if he had his personal preference we would have played a lot more of the match-up. Yet he was willing to adjust to the people he had and do what fit them best. A trait we all seemed to call for with the past leadership, that is nice to see now. AB, I am a big fan of the match-up zone, but it seems to be something that takes years working as a group to perfect. I wonder if and when we will see Coach Davis introduce this. In the past, it has been a great equalizer against bigger schools.
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KenZ Postdoc Posts 2777 
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03-23-17 01:47 PM - Post#227991
Somebody please remind me which group of players was Coach Davis' first recruiting class. this year's freshmen was his first recruiting class although he did add O'Reilly last year to relace Show and had to reassure the incoming frosh at the time to stay committed. |
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KenZ Postdoc Posts 2777
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03-23-17 01:59 PM - Post#227993
Also note that he is not really winning with "his system" as he adjusted to play man-to-man because that better fit his personnel. I believe if he had his personal preference we would have played a lot more of the match-up. Yet he was willing to adjust to the people he had and do what fit them best. not sure quite how i would look at this. how much do you really look at skill sets you recruit to fit defensive scheme rather than your preferred offensive scheme? in any case, i think it is interesting to observe that a significant aspect of our ability to perform better this year in man to man was in fact the players Davis recruited. Toomer and Moore gave us much greater capability to cover the quicker wing players which we struggled to defend in prior years. (no intent here to diminish the importance of the defense of anyone else, particularly Brown and Foulland who are all league defensive players). |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-23-17 02:03 PM - Post#227994
Following up on the defense theme, I don't think the Bison played anything other than M2M in any of the 21 PL games. The match-up made a reappearance on a few possessions against WVU, and its use may have been a reason for Nate Jones getting more playing time. That's a tough defense for frosh to learn to play well.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-23-17 03:36 PM - Post#228020
I have a question about our defense in general, and I am being sincere. Is there an aspect to our defense that wants to allow dribble penetration from the top and from the wings? Seems to me you would want to limit that but it seemed to happen quite a bit. And often when it did, people said the permitter defense did pretty well. I respect all of our players and especially Stephen's ability to play defense, but even he allowed significant penetration during various games. So I go back to my question regarding penetration and perhaps it was part of a plan to allow penetration from different angles. It was also my assumption that a zone of some kind could help limit such penetration. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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03-23-17 04:21 PM - Post#228024
I can't speak for Nathan Davis, but I don't think there is any plan to allow dribble penetration. I think one reason it happens is that the defensive scheme appears to be one that is reluctant to switch or double team - actions that can create a mismatch or an open three. With Nana in the lane, they are perhaps more willing to allow some dribble penetration to stop the other things. As for a zone, it definitely can cut down on dribble penetration. But there is a tradeoff. The zone may allow more open threes, and it definitely makes it harder to box out on defensive rebounds. Last year the Bison played a fair amount of match-up zone, and they played it some the first part of this year. Then they went to 100% M2M by mid-December. That may have been due, in part, to having two freshmen assume key roles. One good thing is that the Bison defense ranked 84th nationally this year, compared to 202nd last year and 257th in 2015. There are only three years since 2000 that the defense ranked better than 84th: 2005, 2006, and 2013. Those were pretty good years.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757
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03-23-17 04:43 PM - Post#228027
Thanks for your thoughts, 137. As I said, I didn't think there was a viable reason for purposefully allowing penetration but then again, I'm not an expert. It just goes to show how difficult m2m defense really is. Stephen is a darn good defender, 1st Team All-PL, and I watched guys get by him with relative ease at times. Especially when a team spreads you out. Help defense and switching have to work seamlessly. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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07-09-17 04:40 PM - Post#230626
I just happened to stumble across these articles from a Canadian paper on Kimbal Mackenzie just prior to the West Virginia game. Has some interesting items on him. Canadian guard creating his own madness for upset-minded Bucknell Oakville's Mackenzie marches into the madness with Bucknell
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800
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07-09-17 07:01 PM - Post#230630
Good quote from "Joe" Griffin too about Kimball's leadership |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-09-17 07:29 PM - Post#230631
Good articles. Kimbal has come a long way in just the past year. Still needs to work on his D, but very solid otherwise. And he's really a clutch player. You can't teach that. I'm anxious to see how far this team can go. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
07-10-17 01:58 PM - Post#230674
It says here, fwiw, that Kimbal will be THE STAR for the next two years. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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07-10-17 02:29 PM - Post#230676
I would love to see Kimbal be the star. That means that the Bison will have at least 3 stars.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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07-10-17 02:47 PM - Post#230678
I would love to see Kimbal be the star. That means that the Bison will have at least 3 stars. If KM becomes a star, I'd say that would make at least four. Stephen Brown has been All-PL each of the last two years and has also made the All-PL defensive team both years. I'd say that puts him in the star category.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-10-17 03:38 PM - Post#230682
Kimbal has 557 career points after scoring 415 last season. If he steps up his scoring a bit, he could reach 1000 by the end of the season. Stephen is almost certain to be over 1000 by mid-season. That would give us four 1000 point scorers. The last time (only time?) that happened was Muscala, Johnson, Willman, & Ayers. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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07-10-17 04:24 PM - Post#230686
That would give us four 1000 point scorers. The last time (only time?) that happened was Muscala, Johnson, Willman, & Ayers. Yes, definitely the only time. There have been a few other combos of three at a time with 1000. I can think of these: - 1980: Leslie, Barry, Sigl - 1987: Seneca, Atkinson, Alsteadt - 1992: Bright, King, Courtney - 2006: Lee, McNaughton, Bettencourt - 2012: Cohen, Muscala, Johnson The 1987 team was unique in that all three eclipsed the 1000 point barrier in the final few games of that year. I believe the 1989 team just missed as Butts and Aceto passed 1000 but Joseph came up just short in his second year as a regular. Went over 1000 early the next year.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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07-10-17 04:34 PM - Post#230687
I would love to see Kimbal be the star. That means that the Bison will have at least 3 stars. If KM becomes a star, I'd say that would make at least four. Stephen Brown has been All-PL each of the last two years and has also made the All-PL defensive team both years. I'd say that puts him in the star category. Btw, the Bison career record for assists is held by Mike Joseph with 565. Brown currently has 374, leaving him 192 assists short of the record. To break it, he will need to average about 5.8 assists per game. Difficult but not impossible. (He averaged 5.3 apg as a soph.) The top four in career assists at present are Joseph (565), followed by Seneca (553), Flannery (505), and Shazier (498). Then there is a big gap between #4 and #5. Without looking it up, who knows (or can guess) who is 5th? One impressive thing about Joseph and Seneca is that both basically set their records in three years. Joseph had only 29 assists as a freshman, and Seneca had no assists as a frosh, seeing only mop-up duty in one game.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
07-10-17 06:26 PM - Post#230689
The top four in career assists at present are Joseph (565), followed by Seneca (553), Flannery (505), and Shazier (498). Then there is a big gap between #4 and #5. Without looking it up, who knows (or can guess) who is 5th? I would guess Kaspar. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
07-12-17 02:07 PM - Post#230813
Badmas?
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DoCtoR62 Masters Student Posts 463 |
07-12-17 05:14 PM - Post#230838
One impressive thing about Joseph and Seneca is that both basically set their records in three years. Joseph had only 29 assists as a freshman, and Seneca had no assists as a frosh, seeing only mop-up duty in one game. Joseph still played in most games as a freshman. Seneca did not. He played on the JV team. Yes, the second all-time leader in assists played JV as a freshman. His assists per game far outpaces anyone else on the list. Cal Puriefoy, who was the starting PG Seneca's freshman year, followed the same path, playing JV his freshman year. I don't know where he ranks on the overall list, but I'm willing to wager Puriefoy is in the top 2-3 in assists per game. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
07-13-17 02:56 PM - Post#230877
Blankenship? |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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07-13-17 03:10 PM - Post#230879
One impressive thing about Joseph and Seneca is that both basically set their records in three years. Joseph had only 29 assists as a freshman, and Seneca had no assists as a frosh, seeing only mop-up duty in one game. Joseph still played in most games as a freshman. Seneca did not. He played on the JV team. Yes, the second all-time leader in assists played JV as a freshman. His assists per game far outpaces anyone else on the list. Cal Puriefoy, who was the starting PG Seneca's freshman year, followed the same path, playing JV his freshman year. I don't know where he ranks on the overall list, but I'm willing to wager Puriefoy is in the top 2-3 in assists per game. The Breakin' Bison were lots of fun to watch. You did not see a whole lot of 59-58 games.
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