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dperry
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dperry
03-18-17 09:07 PM - Post#227587    

The threes are raining: two from Chambers and one from Nwokedi, plus a couple of nice moves to the hole by Stip. 15-6 Penn, 3:30 to go in the 1st. Keep shooting, all!
David Perry
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penn nation
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03-18-17 09:12 PM - Post#227588    

Nice shot of the Penn Band. How did so many manage to make the trip?
rbg
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03-18-17 09:12 PM - Post#227589    

Stip is 3-4 for 6 and Nwokedi with 9. They are also frustrating the Aggies defensively.

Great start!
dperry
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dperry
03-18-17 09:14 PM - Post#227590    

  • penn nation Said:
Nice shot of the Penn Band. How did so many manage to make the trip?



Sounds like the team, band, and cheerleaders all went on the same charter.
David Perry
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03-18-17 09:15 PM - Post#227591    

All right, two fouls on Nwokedi. Here's where Princess has to come through. A&M getting a lot of offensive boards, as predicted.
David Perry
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03-18-17 09:17 PM - Post#227592    

On the other hand, now two fouls on the Aggie center and shooting guard each.
David Perry
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03-18-17 09:19 PM - Post#227593    

21-13 after 1. Aggies got to run at the end of the half and got a cheap basket, darn it.
David Perry
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rbg
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03-18-17 09:22 PM - Post#227594    

21-13 at end of 1st.

My mistake, Nwokedi has 6. Stipanovich with 8 (4-6) and Chambers with 6.

Great job shooting 8-13 overall and 4-5 from three.

Offensive boards are not going Penn's way (1 vs 6). Also, Aggies have FT advantage (7-10 vs 1-2).

Stip and Nwokedi with 2 fouls each. Agreed, Princess had to come up big.




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03-18-17 09:24 PM - Post#227595    

Ross knocks down another 3 and makes a beautiful drive, and Stip hot on the jumper. Time out, Aggies, 8:10 in the 2nd, 28-13 Penn.
David Perry
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rbg
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03-18-17 09:26 PM - Post#227596    

28-13 and Aggies take a TO with 8:10 to go in the half!

Ross with a quick 5 points to ignite a 7-0 run.
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dperry
03-18-17 09:31 PM - Post#227597    

Penn takes a time out with TAM back within 10, 5:26 to go in the half.
David Perry
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03-18-17 09:39 PM - Post#227598    

All right, 36-24 at half, and the big ladies avoided picking up any more fouls. Well done; now get ready for the adjustment from the Aggies!
David Perry
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rbg
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03-18-17 09:49 PM - Post#227599    

Really good half!

Stipanovich with 14 points (7-14). They are giving her the 15 foot jump shot.

Ross added 8 (7 in 2nd Qtr). Nwokedi and Chambers with 6 each (0 in 2nd Qtr).

Quakers shooting 58% overall and 56% from three. They are holding the Aggies to 25% overall and 20% from three. Aggies have 7-10 FT, but none in the 2nd Quarter.

A&M have 21-16 rebounding advantage, and 11-1 on the offensive side. With their poor shooting, the offensive boards are keeping them in the game.

Hillsman has 10 pts and 6 rebounds, while Howard has 8 rebounds. Knox, though, only has 3 assists and has 2 turnovers.

Penn has dictated the pace and frustrated the Aggies. If they can keep A&M in half court sets and the bigs avoid foul trouble, they can hold off the Aggies.

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03-18-17 10:02 PM - Post#227600    

Brzozowski makes a couple of more threes, and Nwokedi with a nice medium jumper and a great board and rebound, and we're now up 16 with just over 4 to go at the TV time out!
David Perry
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TheLine
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03-18-17 10:02 PM - Post#227601    

After a shaky start Penn goes on a run. 3's rain. 46-30.

dperry
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dperry
03-18-17 10:02 PM - Post#227602    

3rd quarter, that is.
David Perry
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penn nation
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03-18-17 10:03 PM - Post#227603    

If you didn't know any better, you'd think Penn was the 5 seed and A&M the 12.
penn nation
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03-18-17 10:11 PM - Post#227605    

They're dominating this team, plain and simple. Very impressed.
TheLine
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03-18-17 10:12 PM - Post#227606    

Excellent quarter. One more to go.


dperry
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03-18-17 10:13 PM - Post#227607    

Well, cheesy foul on Ross as the A&M point guard pump-faked her at the end of the quarter and then made the shot, but she missed the FT. 52-35 after 3 full. Come on, just keep scoring!
David Perry
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section110
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03-18-17 10:15 PM - Post#227608    

Don't go to a delay. Play D & run the offense.
rbg
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03-18-17 10:16 PM - Post#227609    

Penn up 52-35 at the end of 3!

Nwokedi with 8 points that quarter (14 total). Brzozowski with 2 big threes.

No one with more than 2 fouls (Stip, Nwokedi, Ross).

Aggies still have 13-5 offensive rebounding advantage, but Penn had 4-2 lead in the 3rd Qtr.

A&M is still shooting poorly - 28% overall and 29% from three. Penn is shooting 50% overall and 41% from three.

10 minutes to go!
TheLine
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03-18-17 10:17 PM - Post#227610    

Up 21.

dperry
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03-18-17 10:23 PM - Post#227611    

Well, Hillman, the center for the Aggies, starting to draw fouls and make the shots. Lead down to 13 with about 7 to go.
David Perry
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penn nation
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03-18-17 10:24 PM - Post#227612    

Now they're starting to pound Penn. The final score will likely be in single digits, hopefully with Penn still on top.
rbg
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03-18-17 10:24 PM - Post#227613    

Pressure defense from the Aggies seems to be working out for them, as well.

Hopefully, this TO calms the Quakers down.
penn nation
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03-18-17 10:28 PM - Post#227615    

Well it didn't--at least not based on the inbounds play
penn nation
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03-18-17 10:29 PM - Post#227616    

Or the next inbounds play after that
dperry
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03-18-17 10:32 PM - Post#227617    

Still up 10 with under four to go. Someone's gotta want it from outside, because they're not going to give us much inside at all. Nwokedi with four fouls.
David Perry
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TheLine
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03-18-17 10:32 PM - Post#227618    

Offense is out of sync. Not getting many good shots. And when they do, they miss.

Someone needs to step up.

rbg
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03-18-17 10:33 PM - Post#227619    

Lead down to 10 with 3:47 left.

Fortunately for Penn, the Aggies shooting is still poor. They need to avoid the turnovers, get some points and keep the Aggies off the free throw line.
penn nation
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03-18-17 10:33 PM - Post#227620    

Thought it was a good possession when they got fouled, had another possession and worked the shot clock down to a layup--but the layup was missed.

Pace and pressure are getting to them.
TheLine
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03-18-17 10:36 PM - Post#227621    

Team is playing way too passive.

penn nation
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03-18-17 10:40 PM - Post#227622    

By design. They are clearly trying to milk the clock. I don't blame them--that pressure is too intense.
TheLine
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03-18-17 10:42 PM - Post#227623    

Another bunny missed.

rbg
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03-18-17 10:44 PM - Post#227624    

Ugghhh!

Without a bucket for 7+ minutes.
penn nation
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03-18-17 10:44 PM - Post#227625    

Penn has scored 1 point in like, what, 8 minutes?
rbg
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03-18-17 10:46 PM - Post#227627    

Yes. Aggies on an 18-1 run over the last 8+ minutes.


rbg
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03-18-17 10:49 PM - Post#227628    

Thankfully (and surprisingly), the Aggies went for a long three and missed.

Uggh, they just switched the call and gave possession back to A&M with 40+ seconds left.
rbg
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03-18-17 10:50 PM - Post#227630    

No way! Williams nails a long three to make it a 1 point game.
penn nation
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03-18-17 10:50 PM - Post#227631    

And hit a long 3
Jay O
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03-18-17 10:50 PM - Post#227632    

Can't believe A&M made that Jackson Donahue 3
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03-18-17 10:52 PM - Post#227633    

The reversal of that out-of-bounds call was the most hilarious example of poor officiating you could ever see.

rbg
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03-18-17 10:54 PM - Post#227634    

Ball given to Aggies, again. Ridiculous!
rbg
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03-18-17 10:55 PM - Post#227635    

Aggies up 1 with 19 seconds left. Hopefully, the Quakers can get something going to avoid an epic collapse.
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03-18-17 10:55 PM - Post#227636    

This might be the most amazing example of official bias for a power conference team ever.

rbg
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03-18-17 10:57 PM - Post#227637    

You may be right, but only scoring 1 point over the last 8-9 minutes is not the refs fault.
penn nation
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03-18-17 10:57 PM - Post#227638    

Not really. Penn's consistent inability to get the ball inbounds has killed them here.
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03-18-17 10:57 PM - Post#227639    

Penn didn't get a single call in their favor in the final quarter.

Silver Maple
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03-18-17 10:57 PM - Post#227640    

Well, they got screwed repeatedly by the officials, but they also just fell apart over the last 8 minutes. This was one they should have held onto.
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03-18-17 10:59 PM - Post#227641    

  • penn nation Said:
Not really. Penn's consistent inability to get the ball inbounds has killed them here.



Sure. But doesn't excuse what the officials did with either of the OOB calls. Or what they did, for example, on the Nwokedi drive where an A&M defender ran through her with no call.

penn nation
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03-18-17 11:02 PM - Post#227642    

I actually don't have a problem with either OOB call. And on the 2nd instance, Penn could have easily taken control of the ball instead of letting it go OOB.
besnoah
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03-18-17 11:03 PM - Post#227643    

Not having a problem with either OOB call is odd since they were both obviously wrong and officiated against Penn.
penn nation
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03-18-17 11:05 PM - Post#227645    

Stepping back--that's an awful tough way for Stipanovich to finish her career.
rbg
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03-18-17 11:06 PM - Post#227647    

The largest comeback in Women's NCAA basketball history.

That is going to be one long flight back to Philly...
dperry
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dperry
03-18-17 11:12 PM - Post#227650    

Actually, both of those calls looked right to me, but the point on the second one is, she still could have easily gotten to the ball; you can't depend on the ref to make the call in your favor. Furthermore, she would have been easily in the front court and broken the press. Even if you get the call there, you've still got to inbound again. That was just a poor decision.
David Perry
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03-18-17 11:12 PM - Post#227651    

7 turnovers in the final 8 minutes.
dperry
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dperry
03-18-17 11:16 PM - Post#227652    

  • penn nation Said:
Stepping back--that's an awful tough way for Stipanovich to finish her career.



Yeah, and after she had such a wonderful game after she had struggled from the second half of the league season. She was the most intense I've ever seen her. Wasted that performance something awful.
David Perry
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Go Green
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03-18-17 11:19 PM - Post#227654    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
The reversal of that out-of-bounds call was the most hilarious example of poor officiating you could ever see.



Don't tell that to Chris Collins.
dperry
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03-18-17 11:20 PM - Post#227655    

  • penn nation Said:
7 turnovers in the final 8 minutes.



Yeah, I don't know why they didn't spread the floor more on some of those inbounds plays, particularly when Nwokedi was inbounding; she's tall enough to throw over people and strong enough to throw it a ways. We made it a little too easy for them there.
David Perry
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03-18-17 11:21 PM - Post#227656    

  • Go Green Said:
  • Chip Bayers Said:
The reversal of that out-of-bounds call was the most hilarious example of poor officiating you could ever see.



Don't tell that to Chris Collins.



You beat me to it..The NCAA already said those officials messed up.
penn nation
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03-18-17 11:24 PM - Post#227657    

  • penn nation Said:
7 turnovers in the final 8 minutes.



At times down the stretch I was thinking about that Northern Iowa NCAA game where they just couldn't get the ball in without turning it over. At some point you have to switch it up by maybe running the baseline, or having a second person also behind the baseline--something to take A&M out of its defensive groove by changing it up.

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03-19-17 12:01 AM - Post#227659    

In fairness, part of the reason we were ahead so much is that A&M shot absolutely horribly for the first 3 quarters by their standards, and while we had something to do with that, they also just missed a bunch of outright open shots. In normal circumstances, we'd have been up 5 or 6 at the end of the third and they would have roared by us with five or so to go. Nevertheless, when you're up by 21 with 12 or 13 to go or whatever it was, you've got to get the job done, and I don't care what the refs did. One thing is that when Hillsman got two fouls early, they should have started attacking her more; she was keeping the Aggies in it early on, and by having Nwokedi and Stip and Ross go to the hole more, they could have either given her more fouls and gotten her out of the game, or else got some easier buckets if she held back on D to avoid fouls.
Again, overall, I'm glad that McLaughlin was willing to take the chance on Chambers, because she has really stabilized the backcourt the last couple of years, she's allowed Ross to move to the 2 where she improved mightily (this, probably more than anything, got them over the hump last year), and she's been a great leader and provided a lot of energy. However, against higher level competition, she has just not been good enough, and the backcourt in general has not responded like they needed to. Again, in the last few minutes of that game, you could just see them freezing up, and not being able to create any opportunities for themselves, as has happened too many times in the past few years against teams like this. Obviously, they've got the defense down pat now; if they want to get to the next level, they've got to start taking up the offense a notch. While they don't literally play the old-style Princeton offense (this game, I wish they did; they would probably have gotten a couple more back doors and won this thing), they take the same approach, which is slow the game down, limit the opportunities for both teams, and hope that you get luckier than they do. As we found with the men all those years, that only works every once in a while. To really get good, you have to get to the point where you can actually take on the other teams physically, as the men's teams that have made the tournament for the Ivies the past few years have shown. The hopeful thing is that, as far as I can tell from the limited history I've been able to find about Holy Family online, McLaughin did figure out how to do that there eventually. I'm hopeful that the players he's bringing in next year will begin a new phase of evolution in the history of the program, but we'll see.

Well, in 20 minutes we went from having a huge success to show future recruits to something that may potentially be actually detrimental to the program, now that we've got the biggest choke in the history of the tournament branded all over us. I normally save the video of Penn's appearances in the tournament, win or lose, but I just can't do it with this one; it hurts too much. I'm really sorry that Sydney and Kasey had to go out this way. I have to go to bed now, since I've got church in the morning and I'm going to have enough trouble sleeping as it is, but I'll give a wrapup and look ahead to next year sometime in the next couple of days.
David Perry
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Mike Porter
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03-19-17 03:58 AM - Post#227661    

Well, in person those first 3 quarters were as fun as the 4th quarter was brutal. In fact, I bet from the floor that 4th quarter was even more brutal in person. Just needed to get 1 basket in 8 mins and we win...

Ah well, still a heck of a year and still a hell of a performance for a 12 seed to even get up 21 in 4th quarter against a 5 seed. For just that reason, I definitely don't see this as something hurting recruiting at all for Penn. Yes it was a letdown for the record books, but we were supposed to lose and for 3 quarters we made an SEC team look silly. That's easily made a positive on recruiting trail.
SecS3
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03-19-17 11:38 AM - Post#227678    

Well said. You have my condolences.
penn nation
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03-19-17 11:44 AM - Post#227679    

I suppose it's also worth noting that the opponent in both of these games was....you guessed it, A&M.

  • penn nation Said:
  • penn nation Said:
7 turnovers in the final 8 minutes.



At times down the stretch I was thinking about that Northern Iowa NCAA game where they just couldn't get the ball in without turning it over. At some point you have to switch it up by maybe running the baseline, or having a second person also behind the baseline--something to take A&M out of its defensive groove by changing it up.




Tiger69
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03-19-17 01:59 PM - Post#227708    

What a hell of a way to end a season! My sincere sympathy to the Penn seniors. But, you had an extraordinary four years, as my Tigers would have to testify.
penn nation
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03-20-17 10:41 PM - Post#227839    

So far tonight, UCLA is crushing them. They have two bigs on A&M's big and have rendered her completely useless. Kyle Korver's cousin Kari has hit five 3s in the first half, scoring as many points to date as the entire A&M team.



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