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Sophomore
Posts 195
03-22-17 01:48 PM - Post#227907    

The site still lists Brandon Horvath and Najja Hunter. Does anyone know what is actually happening or (what happened) to either one?
Thanks
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3585
03-22-17 01:52 PM - Post#227909    

Both their twitter feeds show they are available/uncommitted as of March 20th.
nychoops
Junior
Posts 242
03-22-17 02:13 PM - Post#227913    

Spoke at length with Hunters coach a few weeks ago. Penn was literally in the gym at the time but looking at other kids abs had stopped recruiting him. He still had Cornell, Princeton interest but as of then he was actually leaning towards Amherst
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2470
03-23-17 12:34 PM - Post#227981    

The transfer list is already beginning to fill up with guys we were involved with to one degree or another.
Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts 1900
03-23-17 12:36 PM - Post#227983    

Pennhoops, what do you mean by that? Students from prior recruiting years are popping up on transfer lists?
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2470
03-23-17 12:57 PM - Post#227985    

Yes
Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts 3777
03-23-17 01:30 PM - Post#227990    

Well, that's interesting. Where would the uninitiated find these lists?

This past season notwithstanding, we've had pretty good luck with transfers in the past.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3585
03-23-17 03:02 PM - Post#228010    

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story/...
Carl0731
Sophomore
Posts 187
03-23-17 03:11 PM - Post#228015    

Didn't know we had Henry Caruso
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2470
03-23-17 03:19 PM - Post#228017    

The Verbal Commits list doesn't have those sorts of goof ups.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3585
03-23-17 03:38 PM - Post#228021    

Jeff Goodman's list, while missing on Caruso, is very informed and accurate, far better info on transfers than Verbal Commits.
Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts 3618
Mike Porter
03-23-17 07:38 PM - Post#228046    

Any particular past Penn targets that stand out?
NathanVC
Freshman
Posts 9
03-25-17 12:04 PM - Post#228109    

Hello, this is Nathan LeClair, CEO of Verbal Commits. I maintain the transfer list, among other things.

What can we do to improve the list? Would love to hear your feedback.
Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2814
03-25-17 12:24 PM - Post#228111    

Well, for one, let us know if Henry Caruso really has left Princeton to become a Penn quacker
NathanVC
Freshman
Posts 9
03-25-17 12:43 PM - Post#228113    

Lol I haven't heard anything regarding that at this time.
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2470
03-27-17 12:52 PM - Post#228201    

  • PennFan10 Said:
Jeff Goodman's list, while missing on Caruso, is very informed and accurate, far better info on transfers than Verbal Commits.



I'm not sure what you're basing that on but right now the lists aren't even close in terms of comprehensiveness. The VC list is about four times as long as ESPN's.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3585
03-27-17 04:11 PM - Post#228225    

Jeff Goodman has not posted the post season transfers for 2016-17 yet. He only lists the mid season transfers (those who announced during the season they would transfer)

VC actually references ESPN as a source for about 30% of their transfer list. ESPN usually puts out a full list after the FF.

Here is his list from last year:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story/...
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2470
03-27-17 04:43 PM - Post#228231    

Thirty percent seems pretty generous but their list was 811 names last year and I'm not going to do the math. You can work with ESPN, I'll take VC, and the beauty of capitalism will make us all winners.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3585
03-27-17 05:32 PM - Post#228237    

Well if you look at last years lists, of the sources VC cites (they only list a source for 370 of the 811) for the transfer 114 out of 370 were from ESPN, which is 31%.

ESPN lists 703 transfers for last year, VC lists 811. The lists, for whatever reason, are only the same on about 80% of the names. Having followed the ESPN list the last couple years, I have found it to be very reliable and accurate. Can't speak for the VC list.
NathanVC
Freshman
Posts 9
03-28-17 11:34 AM - Post#228252    

It's true we cite ESPN's list, but as mentioned above ESPN has not update its list since January 25th...I updated our five minutes ago and update it dozens of times every day. We typically have more names because ours is updated more frequently.

The transfers that are not sourced were either A) announced by the kid or B) we broke the news.

Besides daily updates, our list also has the ability to be sorted by height, weight, position, class and whether they are eligible immediately or not. ESPN's does not have this ability.

Going through last year's ESPN list, I can point out to you a number of incorrect/incomplete entries. There are guys with no new school beside their names on their list that are playing at another school right now.

I also know for a fact that their "full list" after the FF uses our list as reference except they don't cite anyone, which I can understand.
section110
Masters Student
Posts 847
03-28-17 12:46 PM - Post#228253    

You tell him Nathan. And keep up the good work.
Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts 1900
03-28-17 02:27 PM - Post#228268    

Are Chase Jeter or Nick King hoping to finish their college careers in the Ivy League?

NathanVC
Freshman
Posts 9
03-28-17 02:58 PM - Post#228273    

Lol you never know! I believe Chase Jeter is looking to play closer to home in California.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3585
03-28-17 03:50 PM - Post#228275    

Nathan,

That's good intel. Thanks for sharing it. I will reference VC list as well going forward.


NathanVC
Freshman
Posts 9
03-30-17 01:47 PM - Post#228340    

No problem! Thanks for hearing me out.
The Quad
Sophomore
Posts 137
03-30-17 03:14 PM - Post#228342    

Nathan---love your site and reference it all the time. Keep up the superb work!
Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts 3777
03-30-17 03:17 PM - Post#228343    

Agreed-- VC is an essential resource for the college basketball fan.

And anything you guys can do to nudge 4* recruits toward Penn will be greatly appreciated.
NathanVC
Freshman
Posts 9
04-01-17 07:08 PM - Post#228432    

Thank you! Appreciate your support.
NathanVC
Freshman
Posts 9
04-01-17 07:10 PM - Post#228433    

Thanks! Glad you think so.

Haha no promises...



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