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BisonRoadWarrior
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03-29-17 01:25 PM - Post#228306    

I have no insights on next year's schedule. Have any of you heard anything or know anything?
Bison137
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03-29-17 02:43 PM - Post#228308    

No insights whatsoever. It would appear that there should be at least three games that are continuations of series:

- Siena (home)
- Richmond (away)
- LaSalle (home?)

Other series that may continue might be:

- Princeton: played the last four years, incl Sojka most recently.
- Mount St. Mary's: played the last four years, incl Sojka most recently.
- Robert Morris: played the last two years, incl Sojka most recently.
- Fairfield: played the last four years, at Fairfield most recently.
- Manhattan: Played the last two years, incl Sojka most recently.


Other teams that have frequently been on the schedule in recent years are Wake, PSU, Albany, Marist, and Columbia.



Doktore K
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03-29-17 03:47 PM - Post#228310    

How about the Return of DP and playing George Mason in the next year or two?

Bison89
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03-29-17 04:54 PM - Post#228318    

IMO, Coach Paulsen has nothing to be gained by playing Bucknell. I would love to see the Bison in a high profile preseason tournament.
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03-31-17 12:25 PM - Post#228403    

  • Bison89 Said:
IMO, Coach Paulsen has nothing to be gained by playing Bucknell. I would love to see the Bison in a high profile preseason tournament.



Outside of teams like Wichita State, how often do non-major teams get invited to high profile tournaments?

I don't see it happening. At least not the main pool of a high profile tourney.

Outside of Wichita State, it's almost always teams from the power 6 conferences and teams from conferences like the A-10, WCC and AAC that get invited to those high profile tournaments. And Wichita State is on the verge of joining the AAC.
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A Western Bison
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03-31-17 01:52 PM - Post#228409    

One of those tournaments gave us the shot at Vandy and Butler this year. The same tourney brought us Norfolk State and Northern Colorado, two of our worst non-con RPI encounters. Previous years such tournaments have left us playing a D2 school for one leg. We might get guaranteed dates with P5 schools, but we may also have to dance with a few ugly ones. Still, that Vandy win came up a lot in the pre-tourney chatter. Perhaps an eye-catching upset is worth the drag, but it isn't like we have a ton of choice.
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03-31-17 04:54 PM - Post#228416    

Many of the preseason tournaments already have fields in place, including ones the Bison have played in before such as the Legends Classic and the 2K Classic. Here is a complete list.

But there are some spots available in the following events, most of which have two games at major college sites, followed by two neutral site games:

- Gulf Coast Showcase (Florida 11/20-22, 3 games).
- Vancouver Showcase (November TBD, 3 games).
- Lone Star Showcase (November TBD, 3 games)
- MGM Grand Main Event (November, 4 games, two on campus, two at Las Vegas).
- CBE Hall of Fame Classic (November, 4 games, 2 on campus, 2 at KC).
- Barclays Center Classic (November, 4 games, 2 on campus, 2 at Brooklyn).
- Savannah Invitational (November, 4 games, 2 on campus, 2 at Savannah).
- Global Sports Classic (November, 4 games, 2 on campus, 2 at Las Vegas).
- Continental Tire Las Vegas Classic (December, 4 games).


There are other tournaments that do take midmajors but are already full. Here is a list, showing the site of the later games plus midmajors already committed:

- Gildan Classic (Charleston) - Hofstra, ODU).
- 2K Classic (NYC) - Belmont, Detroit, Houston Baptist, Seattle.
- Virgin Islands Paradise Jam - Drexel, Liberty, Mercer, Quinnipiac.
- Hall of Fame Tip-Off (Mohegan Sun) - Maine, Sacred Heart, St. Peter's, South Alabama.
- Cayman Islands Classic - South Dakota State, LA Tech, Wyoming.
- Legends Classic (Brooklyn) - Montana, Oral Roberts, Pepperdine, UC Santa Barbara.
- Cancun Challenge - Binghamton, Montana State, Southeast Missouri, Cal State Northridge.
DirectTV Wooden Legacy - Cal State Fullerton, Harvard, St. Mary's, San Diego State.
Continental Tire Las Vegas Invitational - Hampton, Northern Arizona, Rider, UC Irvine.
- Emerald Coast Classic (Florida) - Jackson State, MD Eastern Shore, Omaha, TN Tech.

- - - - -

I wouldn't mind seeing the Bison in Cancun, Cayman Islands, Virgin Islands, or Mohegan Sun some year.













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03-31-17 05:41 PM - Post#228418    

Ohhh, Savannah Invitational sounds great to me!
Ray Bucknell!

Bison137
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03-31-17 06:14 PM - Post#228419    

  • atlantabison Said:
Ohhh, Savannah Invitational sounds great to me!




Probably doesn't sound as good for Nathan Davis however. It is a relatively new event that last year did not have any majors. The eight participants were Radford, Stetson, Air Force, Akron, East Carolina, Mercer, Georgia State, and Florida A&M.

It is a convenient way to get three games with "peers", but not a way to get games with any majors.



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04-01-17 08:47 AM - Post#228425    

There are also the two Hawaii Tournaments - the Maui Invitational or Diamond Head Classic

The Maui Invitational is usually all majors except Chaminade, so likely not an option.

The Diamond Head is a mix of majors / decent mid-majors, but I believe it is full for 2017 (Miami, USC, Davidson, Akron, Middle Tennessee, Utah St, New Mexico St, Hawaii)

The Maui Invitational
JDBison2010
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06-01-17 02:46 PM - Post#229779    

La Salle @ Bucknell on Friday 12/22

http://www.goexplorers.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbba...

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06-01-17 04:28 PM - Post#229780    

  • JDBison2010 Said:
La Salle @ Bucknell on Friday 12/22

http://www.goexplorers.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbba...




I know where I will be on 12/22.

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06-01-17 04:49 PM - Post#229781    

As we'd anticipated, a couple weeks ago, I heard filling the upcoming schedule is indeed proving exceptionally difficult this year.

That's what happens when you have your top seven players back from a team that went 26-9, beat Vandy on the road, won the league regular season crown outright, made it to the NCAA tournament and lost to a very tough West Virginia team by just two possessions.
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06-02-17 12:48 PM - Post#229797    

Chickens!!!
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06-04-17 10:21 AM - Post#229831    

This one should make some Bison fans happy.

"Saint Joseph's will host Bucknell as part of its 2017-18 non-conference schedule, per a source."


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/8 713364860...



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06-04-17 10:40 AM - Post#229832    

  • Bison137 Said:
This one should make some Bison fans happy.

"Saint Joseph's will host Bucknell as part of its 2017-18 non-conference schedule, per a source."


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/8 713364860...




St. Joes had a down year in 2016-17, but they return all of their top players. Also they presumably will get back their star, PG Shavar Newkirk, who averaged over 20 ppg. He tore his ACL in late December



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06-04-17 11:26 AM - Post#229833    

That's a pretty good get. As you point out, last year was pretty much a disaster for them but everyone is quietly optimistic about this year.

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06-04-17 12:47 PM - Post#229835    

  • Bison137 Said:
This one should make some Bison fans happy.

"Saint Joseph's will host Bucknell as part of its 2017-18 non-conference schedule, per a source."


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/8 713364860...

Ooooh...very happy! Let's hope it's a 2 for 2 or 2 for 1.
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06-05-17 11:02 AM - Post#229846    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
This one should make some Bison fans happy.

"Saint Joseph's will host Bucknell as part of its 2017-18 non-conference schedule, per a source."


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/8 713364860...

Ooooh...very happy! Let's hope it's a 2 for 2 or 2 for 1.



This is great. I can drive there in about 30-40 minutes. By far, St. Joe's, due to the size of their small but recently expanded stadium, has traditionally been the most difficult Big 5 team to purchase tickets to see. The last time that Bucknell played there, I had to contact a buddy who has season tickets and convince him that he really did not want to see Bucknell play.

GO BISON!!!
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06-05-17 04:11 PM - Post#229853    

  • Bison89 Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
This one should make some Bison fans happy.

"Saint Joseph's will host Bucknell as part of its 2017-18 non-conference schedule, per a source."


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/8 713364860...

Ooooh...very happy! Let's hope it's a 2 for 2 or 2 for 1.



This is great. I can drive there in about 30-40 minutes. By far, St. Joe's, due to the size of their small but recently expanded stadium, has traditionally been the most difficult Big 5 team to purchase tickets to see. The last time that Bucknell played there, I had to contact a buddy who has season tickets and convince him that he really did not want to see Bucknell play.

GO BISON!!!





The St. Joes' capacity back then - which I presume was the game in November 2006 - was 3200. Now it is 4200. Also that game was played on a Saturday when school was in session. We'll have to wait to see what the date is for this year's game. Might be easier to get tickets this time. Last year they didn't come close to a sell-out vs Columbia and Lafayette. Also didn't sell out A10 games vs GMU, Davidson, Richmond, and Bona.



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06-05-17 04:27 PM - Post#229854    

Good intelligence report, thanks 137.

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06-05-17 05:07 PM - Post#229856    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
This one should make some Bison fans happy.

"Saint Joseph's will host Bucknell as part of its 2017-18 non-conference schedule, per a source."


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/8 713364860...

Ooooh...very happy! Let's hope it's a 2 for 2 or 2 for 1.



This is great. I can drive there in about 30-40 minutes. By far, St. Joe's, due to the size of their small but recently expanded stadium, has traditionally been the most difficult Big 5 team to purchase tickets to see. The last time that Bucknell played there, I had to contact a buddy who has season tickets and convince him that he really did not want to see Bucknell play.

GO BISON!!!





The St. Joes' capacity back then - which I presume was the game in November 2006 - was 3200. Now it is 4200. Also that game was played on a Saturday when school was in session. We'll have to wait to see what the date is for this year's game. Might be easier to get tickets this time. Last year they didn't come close to a sell-out vs Columbia and Lafayette. Also didn't sell out A10 games vs GMU, Davidson, Richmond, and Bona.



I think that Bucknell travels the best out of all of the PL teams. A game in Philly could result in a large Bucknell contingent at the game. Also, with the Bison supposed to be very good this year, it would not surprise me to see a sell out.

I already contacted some buddies about putting together a pregame reunion once we know the schedule.

Now, let's hope for a Friday night or Saturday game.
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06-07-17 04:24 PM - Post#229902    

No date given, but this article confirms Bucknell at Richmond.
http://www.richmond.com/sports/november-trip- to-ca...

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06-26-17 05:01 PM - Post#230368    

Siena's board reports that they will play at Bucknell on Tuesday November 21st, which is during Thanksgiving break.



JDBison2010
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07-05-17 05:10 PM - Post#230535    

Princeton just released their schedule. Includes Lehigh and Lafayette but the series with Bucknell was not renewed
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07-05-17 07:27 PM - Post#230541    

That's too bad. I guess Princeton felt they needed some easy wins this year.



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07-08-17 11:38 AM - Post#230606    

I just got word that Bucknell's nonconference schedule includes UNC, Maryland & Arkansas. Can anyone confirm this?
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07-08-17 12:50 PM - Post#230608    

Interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing those three on the schedule.

It appears that none of these games could be part of a tournament, which seems to rule out Bucknell participating in any of the bigger multi-team events. Both UNC and Arkansas are booked into the huge Phil Knight event in Portland, and that tournament only has strong majors who are Nike affiliates. And Maryland is booked into the Emerald Coast Classic, whose 8 teams have already been announced.



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07-08-17 02:13 PM - Post#230611    

  • BisonFan4 Said:
I just got word that Bucknell's nonconference schedule includes UNC, Maryland & Arkansas. Can anyone confirm this?

If true, that's quite the scoop you've got there!

If false, my hasty research of things to do in Fayetteville is for naught.
Bison137
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07-08-17 02:48 PM - Post#230613    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • BisonFan4 Said:


If false, my hasty research of things to do in Fayetteville is for naught.




Maybe you can get some tips from those Razorback fans who briefly graced this board in March 2006. They probably still think their loss to the Bison was an upset.



BisonFan4
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07-08-17 07:36 PM - Post#230617    

It came from a parent of one of the players. I woke up this morning to a text saying "Bucknell's nonconference schedule includes UNC, Maryland, and Arkansas..."

I haven't been able to find any info online confirming that, nor have I heard anything back from them.
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07-08-17 07:54 PM - Post#230618    

A game against the defending national champions would be pretty cool.
Old Bison
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07-09-17 11:03 AM - Post#230624    

At Maryland is confirmed by an ex-UoM Trustee for Nov, 18th...a Saturday...not sure if a time has been selected...I would expect 2 p.m.
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07-09-17 08:40 PM - Post#230636    

I found a few UNC sites tracking their 17-18 schedule and there are definitely some big gaps in December in which they have room to schedule more games.

I would assume these are not guarantee games and we are paying our way (if true)?
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07-09-17 08:47 PM - Post#230637    

  • BUFan Said:


I would assume these are not guarantee games and we are paying our way (if true)?




I think all three are almost certainly guarantee games. Almost any game where there is no return game brings a payday. Games with teams at this level should generate $75,000+ per game. Could be closer to $100,000 for two of them.

For one example of how big the guarantees can be, Robert Morris got $140,000 to play at Kentucky back in 2014.



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07-12-17 12:03 PM - Post#230811    

Penn State released their non-conference schedule today and the bison were not on it. No reason why these two can't play each other every year.
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07-12-17 12:17 PM - Post#230812    

I agree. But I'm not sure that Pat Chambers does. His job is not very secure and losing to a local mid major would be a bit embarrassing. And he could realistically expect to lose close to half the time.

We also might be back to a situation where Penn State will only play the Bison at home but BU wants a two-for-one., with every third game in Sojka. That impasse ended the long-time series in Charlie Woolum's early days.

We may get a better idea next year, when the Bison may look a,little more beatable to Chambers.



HuskyColonial
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07-13-17 02:58 PM - Post#230878    

Penn State can suck it. Quite honestly I'm over trying to schedule them. They are consistently one of the worst Big Conference programs every year and provide a poor measuring stick in the early OOC anyway.
Old Bison
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07-13-17 03:33 PM - Post#230880    

Unfortunately, except for the game that Kaspar ate them up there we seem to always find a way to under perform against them

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07-15-17 11:04 AM - Post#230931    

Wow, the UNC game would be great to see. And too bad about PSU...I def think Chambers doesn't care to chance losing to Bucknell. Maybe the Bison can schedule Pitt again one day.
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07-16-17 08:43 AM - Post#230942    

Sadly most of the major schools geographically near lewisburg don't want the loss. Sans Villanova.
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07-21-17 11:55 AM - Post#231145    

  • Bison137 Said:
Interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing those three on the schedule.

It appears that none of these games could be part of a tournament, which seems to rule out Bucknell participating in any of the bigger multi-team events. Both UNC and Arkansas are booked into the huge Phil Knight event in Portland, and that tournament only has strong majors who are Nike affiliates.




UNC released their schedule today. They will host the Bison on November 15th as a preliminary part of the Phil Knight Nike event that hadn't been announced before. I assume that is also what the game with Arkansas will be - which means it will be in November (or very early December) as well.

https://twitter.com/UNC_Basketball/status /88841929...



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07-21-17 02:09 PM - Post#231154    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
Interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing those three on the schedule.

It appears that none of these games could be part of a tournament, which seems to rule out Bucknell participating in any of the bigger multi-team events. Both UNC and Arkansas are booked into the huge Phil Knight event in Portland, and that tournament only has strong majors who are Nike affiliates.




UNC released their schedule today. They will host the Bison on November 15th as a preliminary part of the Phil Knight Nike event that hadn't been announced before. I assume that is also what the game with Arkansas will be - which means it will be in November (or very early December) as well.

https://twitter.com/UNC_Basketball/status /88841929...




Will the Tarheels be Bucknell's opening game?

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07-21-17 02:38 PM - Post#231157    

  • Bison89 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
Interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing those three on the schedule.

It appears that none of these games could be part of a tournament, which seems to rule out Bucknell participating in any of the bigger multi-team events. Both UNC and Arkansas are booked into the huge Phil Knight event in Portland, and that tournament only has strong majors who are Nike affiliates.




UNC released their schedule today. They will host the Bison on November 15th as a preliminary part of the Phil Knight Nike event that hadn't been announced before. I assume that is also what the game with Arkansas will be - which means it will be in November (or very early December) as well.

https://twitter.com/UNC_Basketball/status /88841929...




Will the Tarheels be Bucknell's opening game?







Very unlikely. First date that games can be played is Friday November 10th, and it is very likely the Bison will play a game that weekend. Might even play Friday and Sunday, especially if they are forced into scheduling a D2/D3 team to fill out the schedule.



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07-21-17 03:26 PM - Post#231158    

Just to confirm, this is a $$$ game, right?
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07-21-17 03:36 PM - Post#231159    

  • Bison89 Said:
Just to confirm, this is a $$$ game, right?





I am sure that it is.



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07-21-17 04:16 PM - Post#231160    

  • Bison89 Said:
Just to confirm, this is a $$$ game, right?

Were you hopeful that UNC was going to give us a game at Sojka in 2018-19?

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07-21-17 06:31 PM - Post#231163    

I like that Bucknell was not deemed noteworthy by this Raleigh sports writer.
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/un c...

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07-21-17 06:52 PM - Post#231164    

I've been a huge Tar Heel fan as long as I can remember but I really like this game. A senior-laden Bucknell squad is the type of team that gives the Heels fits. Without Tony Bradley, Nana will be able to hold his own. If the Bison aren't intimidated by Carolina or the Dean Dome and come out shooting, we'll give them a game. It sounds crazy given they are the defending champs but if Carolina is discombobulated and undisciplined, as they can be with "easy" competition early in the season, this game could be really fun!
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07-21-17 07:11 PM - Post#231165    

The Bison have never played UNC. Of the 15 ACC schools, there are two others who have never played Bucknell. Who can name them?


Btw, the Bison have won 11 games vs teams now in the ACC. It helps that they have 9 wins over Pitt.



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07-21-17 07:40 PM - Post#231167    

  • Bison137 Said:
The Bison have never played UNC. Of the 15 ACC schools, there are two others who have never played Bucknell. Who can name them?


Btw, the Bison have won 11 games vs teams now in the ACC. It helps that they have 9 wins over Pitt.



there are 9 schools i am confident we have played, and unc that we have not leaving me 5 candidates for the two spots. i'll guess Louisville and Florida State.

and i have Syracuse and Virginia as the other two wins.
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07-21-17 08:39 PM - Post#231168    

I seem to have a vague memory that we played Florida State. I like the Louisville guess and will add....hmmm...Miami.

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07-21-17 10:07 PM - Post#231169    

Miami hoops, right; not the football Orange Bowl

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07-22-17 12:03 AM - Post#231170    

So it appears my source was very good after all! Go Bison! I too have been a lifelong Tarheel fan, but for the first time in my life I will be routing against them Nov 15th!
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07-22-17 10:23 AM - Post#231171    

  • KenZ Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
The Bison have never played UNC. Of the 15 ACC schools, there are two others who have never played Bucknell. Who can name them?


Btw, the Bison have won 11 games vs teams now in the ACC. It helps that they have 9 wins over Pitt.



there are 9 schools i am confident we have played, and unc that we have not leaving me 5 candidates for the two spots. i'll guess Louisville and Florida State.

and i have Syracuse and Virginia as the other two wins.





You're correct on Louisville and correct on the other two wins, i.e. Syracuse and Virginia. But as BRW suggested, the Bison did play Florida State (in 1987). They also played at Miami in 1969 and 1970. But they have never played Georgia Tech.



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07-22-17 03:31 PM - Post#231176    

  • Bison137 Said:
UNC released their schedule today. They will host the Bison on November 15th as a preliminary part of the Phil Knight Nike event that hadn't been announced before. I assume that is also what the game with Arkansas will be - which means it will be in November (or very early December) as well.


UNC's release describes the Bucknell visit as "an early-round game."

Arkansas hosts Samford on Friday Nov 10, and Bucknell is said to be hosting Siena on Nov 21. If the rumored Arkansas game is also "early round" and the Maryland rumors are true, that could mean the Bison are lined up for an intense road swing:
Nov 12 or 13?: at Arkansas
Nov 15: at North Carolina
Nov 18: at Maryland
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07-22-17 04:34 PM - Post#231177    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
UNC released their schedule today. They will host the Bison on November 15th as a preliminary part of the Phil Knight Nike event that hadn't been announced before. I assume that is also what the game with Arkansas will be - which means it will be in November (or very early December) as well.


UNC's release describes the Bucknell visit as "an early-round game."

Arkansas hosts Samford on Friday Nov 10, and Bucknell is said to be hosting Siena on Nov 21. If the rumored Arkansas game is also "early round" and the Maryland rumors are true, that could mean the Bison are lined up for an intense road swing:
Nov 12 or 13?: at Arkansas
Nov 15: at North Carolina
Nov 18: at Maryland





I think Arkansas could very well slot in on the 12th or 13th, but it might be after UNC as well. The true PK80 tournament in Oregon starts November 23rd, so there is plenty of time to play Arkansas on the 18th, or even the 17th or 19th. Maryland is not part of the tournament, so - unless I am missing something - that game could be played at the end of November or in December.



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07-22-17 10:29 PM - Post#231180    

You may have missed earlier where it was reported that the Maryland game is supposed to be on the 18th.

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07-23-17 07:48 AM - Post#231182    

Considering the difficulties in getting teams to play Bison caliber, low major opponents, this is a robust schedule with three good opportunities at marquis win.

I agree UNC can be had. I was very impressed with the competitiveness we showed in the WVU game. I think we are going to be crazy good.
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07-23-17 08:42 AM - Post#231183    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
You may have missed earlier where it was reported that the Maryland game is supposed to be on the 18th.




Yes, I missed that - or forgot it. That definitely squeezes the dates for Arkansas.



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07-24-17 03:45 PM - Post#231206    

I just received information from a reliable source about the Phil Knight tournament (PK80) that the Bison will be involved with. It includes four games in total - two vs majors (UNC and Arkansas), who will then play in two simultaneous events in Portland, AND also two vs mid-majors. The latter two games reportedly will include one game in Sojka.

Assuming this is accurate - and I think it is - that increases the number of confirmed OOC games to nine - although the mid-major opponents are still a mystery.



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07-24-17 04:23 PM - Post#231207    

as participants in pk80, which is an exempt tourney, we qualify for two additioal ooc games. the other two mid-majors we play will have to be other 'unbracketed' pk80 participants. to date, New Hampshire, Northeastern, Ball State and Furman have also been identified as unbracketed teams. of those, only Ball State is playing a $ game against a school in the same bracket as the Bison, but i doubt this limits who we can play from the pool, although i confess to not knowing the rules about how this works. one of the oddest mte event structures there is.
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07-24-17 08:26 PM - Post#231214    

At Terps is confirmed for 11/18...VCU is confirmed as well from what I can gather
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07-24-17 10:49 PM - Post#231217    

  • Old Bison Said:
At Terps is confirmed for 11/18...VCU is confirmed as well from what I can gather




Wow, if that is true, this year's schedule looks like it will be the hardest schedule in Bison history. Also the toughest for a team in the PL. Hope there is a VCU return game.

As you will remember from this thread, there is a relationship between Nathan Davis and VCU's new coach Mike Rhoades. Donald Brown is also at VCU.



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07-25-17 07:39 AM - Post#231225    

Wow is right...I love a rough schedule but I hope it won't be too much.
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07-25-17 08:34 AM - Post#231228    

I like that we are going after these tough games. I understand the thinking, that way if we make it to the tourney we won't fear any of the major teams we may face.

But I also have to wonder, if we lose all those games if it lead us to fall into a losing streak. Last year I felt like the team really turned the corner when they went on an OOC winning streak. But on the plus side, if we get say two wins against these major teams...we're talking about looking at much a much higher seed then what we're used to if we get there.
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07-25-17 09:41 AM - Post#231232    

This team seems very confident and doesn't get down on themselves. They've shown they're capable of beating major conference teams. At this stage, they should be taking on tougher competition. Hopefully, they can win a few of those games and show they're a 10-12 seed team.
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07-25-17 09:59 AM - Post#231234    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • KenZ Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
The Bison have never played UNC. Of the 15 ACC schools, there are two others who have never played Bucknell. Who can name them?


Btw, the Bison have won 11 games vs teams now in the ACC. It helps that they have 9 wins over Pitt.



there are 9 schools i am confident we have played, and unc that we have not leaving me 5 candidates for the two spots. i'll guess Louisville and Florida State.

and i have Syracuse and Virginia as the other two wins.





You're correct on Louisville and correct on the other two wins, i.e. Syracuse and Virginia. But as BRW suggested, the Bison did play Florida State (in 1987). They also played at Miami in 1969 and 1970. But they have never played Georgia Tech.



We may never have played Georgia Tech, but if my memory serves me correctly we did play (practice) in their arena, during the 1987 NCAA appearance in Atlanta. I have vivid memories of taking shots in the "thrillerdome". Bobby Cremins was Tech's head coach in those days and I believe he and Charlie Woollum were friends.
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07-25-17 11:13 AM - Post#231240    

VCU is confirmed for Sat Dec 16

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07-25-17 11:34 AM - Post#231241    

1. Phil Knight Invitational

When: Nov. 23-24, 26

Where: Portland

Teams: North Carolina, Portland, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Georgetown, Michigan State, Oregon, Connecticut, Duke, Portland State, Florida, Gonzaga, Stanford, Ohio State, Butler, Texas

Brackets

The Maui Invitational and the Battle 4 Atlantis will both have to take a temporary backseat in 2017. The reason is the Phil Knight Invitational, a 16-team mega tournament created to celebrate the 80th birthday of Nike co-founder Phil Knight. The event will feature two eight-team tournaments, a set-up that made it possible to attract power teams from the same conference without there being a fear of them having to square off against one another.

Ten of the 16 teams involved in the tournament have won a national championship, and in total the group has amassed 23 national titles. The field features three of last season’s Final Four teams, including national finalists North Carolina and Gonzaga. Every game of the tournament will be broadcast on one of the ESPN family of networks, which means even less work than usual will be accomplished this Thanksgiving week.

Does anyone know who dropped out to allow us to get in or is there a "B" bracket that interacts with above?

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07-25-17 11:39 AM - Post#231244    

So awesome that they are playing at Maryland. That will be a must-attend for me. Great that it's on a Saturday as well.

Aggressive scheduling.
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07-25-17 11:40 AM - Post#231245    

  • Old Bison Said:
At Terps is confirmed for 11/18...VCU is confirmed as well from what I can gather



I know where I will be on 11/18.

Go Bison!!!
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07-25-17 11:45 AM - Post#231247    

  • Old Bison Said:
1. Phil Knight Invitational

When: Nov. 23-24, 26

Where: Portland

Teams: North Carolina, Portland, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Georgetown, Michigan State, Oregon, Connecticut, Duke, Portland State, Florida, Gonzaga, Stanford, Ohio State, Butler, Texas

Does anyone know who dropped out to allow us to get in or is there a "B" bracket that interacts with above?



Those 16 bracketed teams play a fourth tournament game at home against a mid major. Those eight mid majors play at two of these (in our case unc & maryland) teams. They have two tournament games left, one at home and one on the road.
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07-25-17 12:05 PM - Post#231251    

  • atlantabison Said:
  • Old Bison Said:
1. Phil Knight Invitational

When: Nov. 23-24, 26

Where: Portland

Teams: North Carolina, Portland, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Georgetown, Michigan State, Oregon, Connecticut, Duke, Portland State, Florida, Gonzaga, Stanford, Ohio State, Butler, Texas

Does anyone know who dropped out to allow us to get in or is there a "B" bracket that interacts with above?



Those 16 bracketed teams play a fourth tournament game at home against a mid major. Those eight mid majors play at two of these (in our case unc & maryland) teams. They have two tournament games left, one at home and one on the road.





That is correct, but the two tournament opponents are UNC and Arkansas. Maryland is playing in the much weaker Emerald Coast Classic, but their game with the Bison is not part of that event.



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07-25-17 12:09 PM - Post#231253    

Tx AB...someone send on the 8 MM's if they come across

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07-25-17 12:12 PM - Post#231254    

VCU game date is Saturday 12/16, if it has not been mentioned yet.
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07-25-17 01:22 PM - Post#231265    

Holding out for the Bison coming west to play New Mexico State as part of the PKI...


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07-25-17 01:31 PM - Post#231266    

Guess that gives us 5 PKI MM's now

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07-25-17 02:37 PM - Post#231272    

The VCU game will be the first game out of finals break in all likelihood.
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07-25-17 03:00 PM - Post#231274    

To recap what we've assembled so far (corrections/additions welcome):

Nov 15 @UNC
Nov 18 @Maryland
Nov 21 Siena
Dec 16 @VCU
Dec 22 La Salle

Dates Unknown:
@Arkansas: maybe Nov 12 or 13?
@St Joe's
@Richmond

How many more slots does that leave?

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07-25-17 03:54 PM - Post#231277    

OK, I'll ask. What is a PKI?
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07-25-17 04:10 PM - Post#231278    

  • Bison89 Said:
OK, I'll ask. What is a PKI?

An encrypted reference to "Phil Knight Invitational," aka PK80.

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07-25-17 04:26 PM - Post#231280    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
To recap what we've assembled so far (corrections/additions welcome):

Nov 15 @UNC
Nov 18 @Maryland
Nov 21 Siena
Dec 16 @VCU
Dec 22 La Salle

Dates Unknown:
@Arkansas: maybe Nov 12 or 13?
@St Joe's
@Richmond

How many more slots does that leave?




Teams can play 27 games PLUS up to 4 games in a multi-team event. That would mean BU can play 13 OOC games in total, as they did last year - leaving room for 3 more games (plus the two midmajors that are part of PK80).

I am guessing (or hoping) that the Richmond game is Monday the 18th of December or the following day. With VCU also being in Richmond, that would work out well logistically.



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07-25-17 05:26 PM - Post#231284    

Bucknell's Patriot League Schedule

FRI DEC 29 American
TUE JAN 2 Boston University
FRI JAN 5 @Army
MON JAN 8 @Lafayette
THU JAN 11 Lehigh
SUN JAN 14 @Colgate
WED JAN 17 @Loyola
SAT JAN 20 Holy Cross
WED JAN 24 @Navy
SAT JAN 27 @Boston University
WED JAN 31 Army
SAT FEB 3 Lafayette
WED FEB 7 @Lehigh
SAT FEB 10 Colgate
WED FEB 14 Loyola
SAT FEB 17 at Holy Cross
WED FEB 21 Navy
SAT FEB 24 at American
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07-25-17 06:28 PM - Post#231286    

This PL schedule has four logistical changes from the past two years:

1. Lafayette is on a Saturday instead of a Wednesday. Except for a two year span in 2012 and 2013, LC has always been a weeknight game.
2. Navy is on a Wednesday instead of a weekend.
3. Army is on a Wednesday instead of a weekend.
4. American is now on a weekend instead of midweek.

Of course, one certainty is that four or five games are going to be moved to Sunday or Monday (or maybe Tuesday or Friday) for TV.


One thing I don't like is that both the Boston U and Lehigh home games are before students return to campus. With the momentum of the tournament home win and the big student turnout, it would have been nice to see those two games later on the calendar. The Bison have three away games prior to classes beginning - Army, Lafayette, and Colgate. I wish at least one of the long bus rides (i.e. Holy Cross and Boston U) was scheduled before classes begin.



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07-26-17 03:08 PM - Post#231321    

VCU just released their schedule. Confirms the Bucknell game at VCU on December 16th.


http://vcuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/r eleas...


VCU only has one true away game - at Seton Hall - plus a tournament in Hawaii. Nine home games prior to A10 play.



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07-26-17 03:46 PM - Post#231324    

  • Bison137 Said:
VCU just released their schedule. Confirms the Bucknell game at VCU on December 16th.


http://vcuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/r eleas...


VCU only has one true away game - at Seton Hall - plus a tournament in Hawaii. Nine home games prior to A10 play.



That's not going to endear themselves to the selection committee should they be scrapping for an at large bid come selection Sunday.
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07-26-17 07:43 PM - Post#231333    

  • pjm_hoops Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
VCU just released their schedule. Confirms the Bucknell game at VCU on December 16th.


http://vcuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/r eleas...


VCU only has one true away game - at Seton Hall - plus a tournament in Hawaii. Nine home games prior to A10 play.



That's not going to endear themselves to the selection committee should they be scrapping for an at large bid come selection Sunday.




Yes, they certainly won't like the lack of away games. But otoh, there are a lot of tough opponents on the schedule. Here are the main ones, with their Pomeroy rankings from this past year:

Virginia 12
Marquette 32
Wichita State (prob) 8
Michigan 20 OR Notre Dame 27
ODU 120
Texas 70
Seton Hall 51
Bucknell 76
Winthrop 113


For a young team with a new coach, that is a pretty challenging group of OOC opponents. I am sure a few will be worse this year - but Seton Hall, Texas, and hopefully Bucknell may be better.



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08-02-17 01:14 PM - Post#231502    

Fresh '17-'18 opener on tap (away). Very similar to our old opener but slightly different
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08-02-17 01:17 PM - Post#231503    

Do tell......
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08-02-17 02:30 PM - Post#231504    

one of those have to shoot you situations --- I have no idea what could be so secret so I can only assume not all the i's are dotted and t's crossed and as such it is probably the right protocol. If you break your word then rightfully you'll get nothing going forward. I can only assume it will hit publicly in a couple of days or so. It's a good opener and is TRi-State as well which is convenient.
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08-02-17 03:33 PM - Post#231509    

Old Bison, you are "game-tease". I would love either a Nova game or UPenn game.
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08-02-17 05:23 PM - Post#231519    

  • Bison89 Said:
Old Bison, you are "game-tease". I would love either a Nova game or UPenn game.




Assuming by "tri-state", he means the Philly area. Of course there is also a NYC tri-state area. Trying to tie in that clue to the reference to similarity to an old opener. Last year's opener, in Sojka, was Manhattan - and maybe there is a repeat but at an away location.


The Bison did play an opening game at Nova 7 years ago - and if they did play Nova this year, it would have to be at a different venue - since The Pavilion is being renovated for the entire year. But Nova's entire OOC schedule was supposedly already done - with all opponents known - three weeks ago. Could one have fallen through?

VU is playing most home games this year at the Wells Fargo Center, with one in Allentown and the possibility of one or more in the Palestra. Playing Nova in the Palestra would be attractive - but would also set up the Bison for the strongest OOC schedule in the nation.

I can't think of any others, since all other recent openers were against teams not in a tri-state area, I think. Maryland was an opening game in DP's first year - but not a tri-state area location.



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08-02-17 06:01 PM - Post#231523    

Not Philly - Tri-State means NY-NJ- CT (that said, its closer to Philly than it is to Hartford)
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08-02-17 06:41 PM - Post#231526    

  • Old Bison Said:
Not Philly - Tri-State means NY-NJ- CT (that said, its closer to Philly than it is to Hartford)




This gets trickier and trickier. The above seems to rule out Manhattan (and also Fordham and Columbia) according to my google maps. Doesn't rule out Wagner. But Wagner )and Fordham and Columbia) don't have any obvious similarities to a BU "old opener".

Of NJ schools, two were openers in the past - Rider and Princeton - but both have already released their OOC schedule. Maybe a change? Rutgers has also released their OOC schedule - probably the worst in the nation - and probably wouldn't dream of playing the Bison this year. (They open with CCNY.) And are those three considered to be in the tri-state area? Seton Hall? Monmouth? Saint Peter's? FDU? NJIT? But again, how would they be very similar to an old opener? Maybe Monmouth, who is similar to Manhattan by being in the MAAC? Are they tri-state? St. Peter's might fit - but they are already scheduled for a tournament game for their opener.

What am I missing?


Edit: I see Wagner and NJIT play each other in the opener - so both are out.



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08-02-17 07:50 PM - Post#231527    

  • Bison137 Said:
I just received information from a reliable source about the Phil Knight tournament (PK80) that the Bison will be involved with. It includes four games in total - two vs majors (UNC and Arkansas), who will then play in two simultaneous events in Portland, AND also two vs mid-majors. The latter two games reportedly will include one game in Sojka.

Assuming this is accurate - and I think it is - that increases the number of confirmed OOC games to nine - although the mid-major opponents are still a mystery.




The same source now tells me that PK80 has changed the way the games are being scheduled between the midmajor teams - at least for some of them. Instead of having one home and one away game, they are now going to have four teams at one site - with each team playing two of the three possible opponents. At least some of these round robins are over Thanksgiving weekend.



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08-02-17 07:58 PM - Post#231528    

I was going to guess St. John's, but that's out. I'll go with Seton Hall.
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08-02-17 08:12 PM - Post#231530    

Saint Francis (NY)? Similar to saint francis (PA)?
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08-02-17 08:31 PM - Post#231531    

If this happens, I know where I plan to roadtrip on Thanksgiving weekend.
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08-02-17 08:37 PM - Post#231532    

Not Saint Francis NY, thankfully. They open with Duquesne on the 11th. Old Bison said it was a good opener so I think we can rule out bottom half NEC/MAAC teams
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08-02-17 08:41 PM - Post#231533    

Was speaking to Slicer (asst coach) at SJU and Bison were to play St John's at MSG on Dec 16 and didn't pull the string. Iona took the slot
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08-02-17 08:46 PM - Post#231534    

  • Old Bison Said:
Was speaking to Slicer (asst coach) at SJU and Bison were to play St John's at MSG on Dec 16 and didn't pull the string. Iona took the slot



Funny you mention Iona. That was my guess for the opener you are teasing.

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08-02-17 08:56 PM - Post#231535    

Maybe it's not announced because like above it may not become official --- things sometimes fall down
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08-02-17 09:23 PM - Post#231536    

Is this exciting? Sorry.
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08-02-17 09:26 PM - Post#231537    

Huh?
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08-02-17 09:37 PM - Post#231538    

  • Old Bison Said:
Was speaking to Slicer (asst coach) at SJU and Bison were to play St John's at MSG on Dec 16 and didn't pull the string. Iona took the slot




This discussion must have been from back in the spring. The Iona-St. John's game in MSG on December 17th was announced back in Mid-May. It is the nightcap of the one-day Holiday Festival. Army plays Air Force in the first game.



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08-02-17 09:57 PM - Post#231539    

I was replying to jkrun confirming that SJU was in fact out (although that's a different story). What Army and AIr Force has to do with anything is irrelevant to me.

Let me restate - Huh?
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08-02-17 10:18 PM - Post#231540    

  • Old Bison Said:
I was replying to jkrun confirming that SJU was in fact out (although that's a different story). What Army and AIr Force has to do with anything is irrelevant to me.

Let me restate - Huh?





Not relevant to who Bucknell is playing. But I thought a number of Bison fans might be interested that another PL team is playing in MSG. If you're not, then no reason to think about it.



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08-03-17 01:05 AM - Post#231541    

When I checked in and saw 20 new posts on this thread, I thought, "Oh boy, the schedule is out, baby!"

No letdown, however, as I was greatly entertained by reading the intense scrutiny of Old Bison's cryptic clues (though things seemed to oddly get a little testy just above.)

Anyway, diving in myself...if it's in that other, imitation "tri-state area" said to comprise CT-NY-NJ, AND it's closer to Philly than Connecticut, wouldn't that have to place it in Jersey south of, say, Newark?

If so, however, the game would also be in the real tri-state area, comprising PA-NJ-DE, which means Old Bison needn't have quibbled over the term. Was his quibbling meant to defend his deeply flawed view that "tri-state" should be, by default, construed as descriptive of NY-CT-NJ, or was it part of his master plan to keep us befuddled? Only time will tell, Bison fans!
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08-03-17 01:25 AM - Post#231542    

I realize now that he said closer to Philly than Hartford, not Connecticut. That would seem to expand the search zone into the NYC area. Pardon my false start--I mean, um...let's see...lane violation?
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08-03-17 01:42 AM - Post#231543    

  • Old Bison Said:
Fresh '17-'18 opener on tap...Very similar to our old opener but slightly different

I'm particularly mystified by "our old opener," and specifically the use of a singular noun.

Not "one of our previous openers," but "our old opener."

It's as if Old Bison is referring to a single institution that, at some point in our history, the Bison opened with year after year.

How old is "old," keeping in mind the poster himself claims to be "old"?

In the 1940s, we opened with Elizabethtown four years in a row. Discuss.
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08-03-17 06:57 AM - Post#231544    

The only NJ team I recall us opening against was Rider when KB hit the huge game winning 3 in 2005-06. Did we ever open against FDU Madison (the D3 one)? I recall we used to play them. Sure hope it isn't that!
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08-03-17 09:09 AM - Post#231547    

Might have mislead unintentionally- should have said recent opener but you guys are relentless and quickly gonna put me in position of breaking my word. If you figure it out don't write a post. Just do a Vulcan mind meld and tell Scottie. BRW - You were sitting with the Willman's last time we played them. Are there imogees for a horse and a water trough? Shhhhhh!!!!
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08-03-17 09:29 AM - Post#231550    

Haha...mum's the word here, Old Bison!

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08-03-17 09:59 AM - Post#231553    

  • Old Bison Said:
Are there imogees for a horse and a water trough?

I'm 99% sure of the opening opponent, but now I'm left wondering what in the world this means.

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08-03-17 10:33 AM - Post#231557    

It means if you're 99% sure of the opponent then the horse has effectively been led to water and you bent down and took a drink! Let me make it 100...Joe was sitting with you also...Got it?

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08-03-17 10:49 AM - Post#231558    

  • BUFan Said:
The only NJ team I recall us opening against was Rider when KB hit the huge game winning 3 in 2005-06. Did we ever open against FDU Madison (the D3 one)? I recall we used to play them. Sure hope it isn't that!





Also opened the previous year vs Princeton (in the Carrier Dome). Don't think it can be any D2/D3 team since the first hint said it is an away game. The Bison under the right circumstances could open with a D3 (e.g. Shenandoah), but I don't think they'd go on the road to do it.



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08-03-17 11:03 AM - Post#231559    

I'm assuming BRW can circulate internally now. I don't know how to do. Apologies for the "I'd have to shoot you route" but it must be deemed sensitive still for some reason so trying to respect that. That said, I really appreciate how much passion you guys have for Bison Hoop and was trying to be helpful --- I know I'm always as curious as hell myself and appreciate when you guys take a lot of time to follow the recruiting trail etc. If this board's passion could be transmitted to the student body it would be a wonderful thing. Regards, the very old bison getting even older.
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08-03-17 11:32 AM - Post#231561    

Old Bison, you are a mystery man. This is all very interesting.

BTW, BU Fan, I remember Kevin Bettencourt hitting the game winner against Rider back in 2005 (?). That was HUGE! Rider has a very small, quaint gym that I would not mind visiting again. Also, it is only about 45 minutes from home which is nice.
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08-03-17 03:10 PM - Post#231581    

No mystery...somebody told me who the opener is with and asked me not to divulge... have pretty much divulged anyway however which I hope doesn't land me in the can't be trusted with info category in the future...can't be that much longer b4 the OOC sked hits the airwaves anyway...always read the Board but never posted even though a passionate fan for many years
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08-03-17 03:42 PM - Post#231586    

Old Bison, don't be shy. Post often. We are all passionate fans who just love to discuss Bucknell hoops!
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08-03-17 04:24 PM - Post#231590    

Tx brother
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08-03-17 07:17 PM - Post#231602    

So should I guess it would be an opener from the years before Willman enrolled? That would suggest UAlbany or Maryland, but UAlbany is closer to Hartford and Maryland is not the tri-state area. Maybe I am slow, but I am stumped
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08-03-17 07:52 PM - Post#231605    

  • BUFan Said:
So should I guess it would be an opener from the years before Willman enrolled?




I believe BRW was sitting with/near the Willman's at the Monmouth game. But that wasn't an opener - except for being an NIT opener.



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08-03-17 07:53 PM - Post#231606    

  • BUFan Said:
...and Maryland is not the tri-state area...



It is if you're talking about the Delmarva.

Or, strangely enough, if you're watching NCIS and they're talking about the Washington area. Annoyingly enough to me, locals are starting to call it the DMV but for some reason the NCIS writers refer to it as the "Tri-State Area". I suppose they're ex-DC residents longing for statehood.

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08-03-17 08:01 PM - Post#231607    

  • Old Bison Said:
It means if you're 99% sure of the opponent then the horse has effectively been led to water and you bent down and took a drink! Let me make it 100...Joe was sitting with you also...Got it?


My max "sure of" on any topic is usually 99%...you had me at "the Wilman's" but your latest hint pushes me up to 99.8%.

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08-03-17 08:02 PM - Post#231608    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • BUFan Said:
So should I guess it would be an opener from the years before Willman enrolled?




I believe BRW was sitting with/near the Willman's at the Monmouth game. But that wasn't an opener - except for being an NIT opener.


He didn't say we opened with this team, he said it was similar to a previous opener.

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08-03-17 09:11 PM - Post#231613    

Now I get it
HuskyColonial
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08-04-17 02:33 PM - Post#231635    

I am sorry I get snippy. I was anxious for some epic scoop that the Bison would be playing Bloomsburg wearing throwback uniforms!
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08-04-17 04:48 PM - Post#231637    

HC - we all have our oars in the water the same way. It's about helping the program. I'm equally as snippy but I can assure you over the long term I've got alligator skin. Apologies I'm responding to your response to BUF. Think everyone is the same in having our fingers crossed we stay healthy and get a great result again this year. Best regards. OB
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08-06-17 11:18 AM - Post#231643    

This could be a very special year. The level we played at in the WVU game still amazes me. This may be as athletically gifted a unit we have ever had.
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08-07-17 08:30 PM - Post#231673    

I think Old Bison's guessing game approach should be universally adopted by posters who get early scoop on non-conference opponents. Fine off-season entertainment.

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08-07-17 10:07 PM - Post#231675    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
I think Old Bison's guessing game approach should be universally adopted by posters who get early scoop on non-conference opponents. Fine off-season entertainment.


Maybe,just maybe, next seasons ooc schedule will feature a game in a state/city closer to Bison 137, than Lewisburg!
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08-09-17 08:05 PM - Post#231746    

Anyone know the dates for the PL playoffs this season? I'm supposed to go to a conference March 7-9 but just realized that might conflict with the championship game. Might have to rethink this conference.
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08-09-17 08:14 PM - Post#231747    

  • jkrun80 Said:
Anyone know the dates for the PL playoffs this season? I'm supposed to go to a conference March 7-9 but just realized that might conflict with the championship game. Might have to rethink this conference.





1st Round: Feb. 27 (Tue);
Quarters: March 1 (Thu);
Semis: March 4 (Sun);
Championship: March 7 (Wed)



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08-09-17 08:34 PM - Post#231750    

I was afraid of that. There are no guarantees we make the final or will host it, but I'll still need to factor that into my plans. Conference is in Baltimore, so it's conceivable I could drive back to Lewisburg Wed for the game and make it back to the conference Thu morning.
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08-09-17 11:42 PM - Post#231756    

I've done just that several times in the past....not really so bad, as it takes about 2 1/2 hours,

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08-10-17 12:12 PM - Post#231797    

Bucknell opens on November 10th at Monmouth

http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/ monmouth-u...

Good looking schedule for them
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08-10-17 01:24 PM - Post#231804    

Updating what we know so far:

Fri Nov 10 @Monmouth
Wed Nov 15 @UNC
Sat Nov 18 @Maryland
Tue Nov 21 Siena
Sat Dec 16 @VCU
Fri Dec 22 La Salle

Dates Unknown:
@Arkansas: maybe Nov 12 or 13?
@St Joe's
@Richmond
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08-10-17 01:45 PM - Post#231810    

Monmouth is a home and home

https://twitter.com/Joshua_Newman/status/ 895701611...

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08-10-17 01:58 PM - Post#231814    

  • Bison137 Said:
I just received information from a reliable source about the Phil Knight tournament (PK80) that the Bison will be involved with. It includes four games in total - two vs majors (UNC and Arkansas), who will then play in two simultaneous events in Portland, AND also two vs mid-majors. The latter two games reportedly will include one game in Sojka.

How many mid-majors are there in the Phil Knight tournament? There are 16 major teams; does that imply 8 mid-majors? So far, we know of Bucknell, Ball State, Furman, New Hampshire and Northeastern.
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08-10-17 02:49 PM - Post#231816    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
I just received information from a reliable source about the Phil Knight tournament (PK80) that the Bison will be involved with. It includes four games in total - two vs majors (UNC and Arkansas), who will then play in two simultaneous events in Portland, AND also two vs mid-majors. The latter two games reportedly will include one game in Sojka.

How many mid-majors are there in the Phil Knight tournament? There are 16 major teams; does that imply 8 mid-majors? So far, we know of Bucknell, Ball State, Furman, New Hampshire and Northeastern.





Based on everything I've read, it should be eight.



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08-10-17 04:00 PM - Post#231819    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
I just received information from a reliable source about the Phil Knight tournament (PK80) that the Bison will be involved with. It includes four games in total - two vs majors (UNC and Arkansas), who will then play in two simultaneous events in Portland, AND also two vs mid-majors. The latter two games reportedly will include one game in Sojka.

How many mid-majors are there in the Phil Knight tournament? There are 16 major teams; does that imply 8 mid-majors? So far, we know of Bucknell, Ball State, Furman, New Hampshire and Northeastern.



some speculation that Stony Brook is in PK80 and will play Bucknell

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08-10-17 04:21 PM - Post#231820    

  • KenZ Said:
some speculation that Stony Brook is in PK80 and will play Bucknell


http://sbufan.createaforum.com/stony-brook-basketb...

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08-10-17 05:51 PM - Post#231826    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Updating what we know so far:

Fri Nov 10 @Monmouth
Wed Nov 15 @UNC
Sat Nov 18 @Maryland
Tue Nov 21 Siena
Sat Dec 16 @VCU
Fri Dec 22 La Salle

Dates Unknown:
@Arkansas
@St Joe's
@Richmond



I'm in for Nov. 10 and 18 and possibly Dec 16. This is gonna be a fun season.
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08-10-17 06:07 PM - Post#231827    

  • KenZ Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
I just received information from a reliable source about the Phil Knight tournament (PK80) that the Bison will be involved with. It includes four games in total - two vs majors (UNC and Arkansas), who will then play in two simultaneous events in Portland, AND also two vs mid-majors. The latter two games reportedly will include one game in Sojka.

How many mid-majors are there in the Phil Knight tournament? There are 16 major teams; does that imply 8 mid-majors? So far, we know of Bucknell, Ball State, Furman, New Hampshire and Northeastern.



some speculation that Stony Brook is in PK80 and will play Bucknell






The Stony Brook AD blogged about their PK80 schedule a few weeks ago: "Of our four tournament games, three will be on the road. The one home game will feature a team that went to the NCAA Tournament last year."


Ball State, Furman, New Hampshire and Northeastern did not go to the NCAA Tournament last year - meaning their home opponent is either Bucknell or one of the three teams still to be identified..


Edit: The Stony Brook AD just tweeted that they share four common opponents with Monmouth. Two are Hofstra and Albany. He can't say yet who the other two are.



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08-11-17 07:45 AM - Post#231833    

That's one hell of an OOC!
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08-13-17 11:38 AM - Post#231908    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Updating what we know so far:

Fri Nov 10 @Monmouth
Wed Nov 15 @UNC
Sat Nov 18 @Maryland
Tue Nov 21 Siena
Sat Dec 16 @VCU
Fri Dec 22 La Salle

Dates Unknown:
@Arkansas: maybe Nov 12 or 13?
@St Joe's
@Richmond



Please remind me why we think that Bucknell is playing Arkansas. Their schedule shows only one TBD open date on 11/26 in Portland, OR:

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/sport/m-baskbl/s...
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08-13-17 12:29 PM - Post#231909    

We think the Bison play Arkansas based on a report much earlier in this thread. Note that the linked schedule only shows nine of Arkansas' OOC games, even though they likely will end up with 13 (the max under NCAA rules). Currently their schedule shows no games between November 10th and November 23rd, but they almost certainly will play a few in that time period.

One thing that is almost certain is that they will have one PK80 game at home vs a midmajor in the week before they go to Portland to participate in the main part of the tournament. That is the way that tournament is structured - (a) 16 majors who each play one midmajor plus three games in Portland; plus (b) eight midmajors who each play two away games vs the majors plus two more games vs each other. The Bison are still waiting for the announcement as to their second PK80 major game opponent, so a game at Arkansas makes sense. (UNC is the other PK80 game - plus two with midmajors.)



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08-13-17 01:49 PM - Post#231914    

Note the report of a game against Arkansas, which came from BisonFan4, also included UNC (announced) and Maryland (supported by a secondary report from an ex-Maryland trustee via Old Bison), so it has high credibility.
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08-13-17 04:26 PM - Post#231921    

Thanks, 137 and BRW.
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08-13-17 07:05 PM - Post#231927    

Yes, I believe the Arkansas game is a definite as my source was correct in not only the UNC & Maryland but also the opener vs Monmouth. I kept quiet about that one lol.
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08-13-17 09:22 PM - Post#231930    

Am I alone in thinking this is an ambitious schedule? Penn State would never schedule this.
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08-13-17 10:45 PM - Post#231932    

It is an ambitious schedule, not unlike the schedule Pat Flannery made in 2005-6 when virtually the whole team that beat KU was returning, or DP's schedule for Muscala, Willman's and Johnson's senior year. I think it tells us a lot about Nathan Davis' expectations for this team.
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08-13-17 10:56 PM - Post#231934    

  • HuskyColonial Said:
Am I alone in thinking this is an ambitious schedule? Penn State would never schedule this.



Husky, yes, it is. This is a special team that can make lots of noise. Just enjoy the ride. It's gonna be fun!!!
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08-14-17 08:17 AM - Post#231936    

It is definitely a "We want to give ourselves a shot at an at large bid" schedule. With the greater road game emphasis, win a few of those marquee road games and dominate the PL, and they will do just that.
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08-14-17 10:48 AM - Post#231949    

Maryland released their schedule today, confirming the game vs the Bison on Saturday November 18th.

http://www.umterps.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=...



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08-14-17 11:50 AM - Post#231962    

Siena released its schedule: Saints at Bucknell on Monday Nov 20. (I'd previously had it on the 21st, per rumor mill.)
http://www.sienasaints.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched /s...

Bucknell's Schedule So Far
Fri Nov 10 @Monmouth
Wed Nov 15 @UNC
Sat Nov 18 @Maryland
Mon Nov 20 Siena
Sat Dec 16 @VCU
Fri Dec 22 La Salle

Dates Unknown:
@Arkansas: maybe Nov 12 or 13?
@St Joe's
@Richmond
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08-14-17 06:23 PM - Post#231989    

I like the ambitious schedule. Several benefits of the schedule include having the guys see high quality completion which will help them get better and build confidence as well as potentially helping with an at-large bid. For the latter to occur, the Bison will need to secure several victories in those games, imo. After all, this would be a first for the PL.
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08-14-17 06:45 PM - Post#231990    

Doesn't an at-large bid mean that they lose in the PL tournament? It would be nice to get one if that unfortunate event does happen, but isn't the more important goal to get the highest seed possible? Which means winning some of these OOC road tests and winning the league RS and tournament.

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08-14-17 06:47 PM - Post#231991    

  • MrPhillie Said:
I like the ambitious schedule. Several benefits of the schedule include having the guys see high quality completion which will help them get better and build confidence as well as potentially helping with an at-large bid. For the latter to occur, the Bison will need to secure several victories in those games, imo. After all, this would be a first for the PL.





Yes, it would be a first for the PL - although the 2005-06 team almost certainly would have received a bid had they lost in the finals. That team had an OOC RPI in the twenties.

The issue with having a really hard schedule is the possibility of taking a lot of losses and losing confidence. I think it will be critical to win a few of the games in the "tough but winnable" category, e.g the A-10 games and Monmouth. Winning three or more of those five games would be nice.



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08-14-17 10:22 PM - Post#231998    

True however I think this club has the ability to win some of those games. As Jay Bilas is fond of blovating, "who have you beaten not who did you lose to" is what the committee examines.


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08-15-17 06:39 AM - Post#232004    

the other way to look at this is not that the Bison are trying to upgrade their schedule but that the teams on the schedule are the only teams willing to oppose the Bison! Sometimes you are a little too good to schedule games with the teams you would normally play. Best example of this was Penn State dropping the yearly game in 2006 (or so).
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08-15-17 01:38 PM - Post#232015    

Ball State rumored to be our other pk80 opponent
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08-15-17 01:50 PM - Post#232016    

  • KenZ Said:
Ball State rumored to be our other pk80 opponent

Which, IF we're playing a game at Stony Brook, would mean Ball State would be at Sojka?

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08-15-17 01:55 PM - Post#232017    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • KenZ Said:
Ball State rumored to be our other pk80 opponent

Which, IF we're playing a game at Stony Brook, would mean Ball State would be at Sojka?




yes, unless the restructuring B137 posted about occurs and affects us.
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08-15-17 02:40 PM - Post#232018    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • KenZ Said:
Ball State rumored to be our other pk80 opponent

Which, IF we're playing a game at Stony Brook, would mean Ball State would be at Sojka?




Comment on the Ball State message board seems to imply the Bucknell game would be on the road

"I care more about home schedule, can't get word on that."

http://overthepylon.boards.net/thread/1450/schedul...
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08-15-17 02:57 PM - Post#232019    

Another tough opponent. Ball State won 20 regular season games last year, and went 11-7 in the MAC. They return seven of their nine rotation players, plus they add a transfer guard who started for two years at Incarnate Word before sitting out last year. They also have what appears to be a good group of frosh, including two who had offers from P6 conferences.



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08-15-17 03:38 PM - Post#232023    

  • JDBison2010 Said:
Comment on the Ball State message board seems to imply the Bucknell game would be on the road

"I care more about home schedule, can't get word on that."

http://overthepylon.boards.net/thread/1450/schedul...

I'm not sure that's the proper interpretation of that person's comment, since he wasn't the one who said Bucknell would be on the schedule. It seems like a general statement that he's most interested in learning about the home schedule.
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08-15-17 04:18 PM - Post#232027    

  • KenZ Said:
Ball State rumored to be our other pk80 opponent



21-13 last season. Looks like another interesting game.

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08-15-17 04:29 PM - Post#232028    

137, how does this year's OOC strength of schedule compare to 2005-2006? I'm wondering if this is potentially the toughest schedule that Bucknell has ever had.
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08-15-17 04:59 PM - Post#232032    

  • Bison89 Said:
137, how does this year's OOC strength of schedule compare to 2005-2006? I'm wondering if this is potentially the toughest schedule that Bucknell has ever had.





I am going to post a comparison once the full schedule is known. The 2005-06 was tougher at the top with Duke, Villanova, and Syracuse - but I think this year's opponents will be tougher overall. One thing to remember if you look at Pomeroy or RPI for 2005-06 is that those rankings ignore the Haverford game. Adding in that game as being equivalent to the worst D1 team (or worse) brings down the overall SOS somewhat.



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08-16-17 01:15 PM - Post#232070    

  • Bison89 Said:
137, how does this year's OOC strength of schedule compare to 2005-2006? I'm wondering if this is potentially the toughest schedule that Bucknell has ever had.





While we wait for this year's complete schedule, here are the schedules from 2005-06 and 2012-13, with each team's Pomeroy ranking:


2005-06:
2 Duke
5 Villanova
30 Northern Iowa
42 Saint Joseph's
50 Syracuse
90 DePaul
160 Santa Clara
182 Niagara
203 Boston University
228 Rider
233 Cornell
258 Yale
360 Haverford

141.8 Mean
160.0 Median
25.8 Top 5
46.0 Top Half


2012-13:

25 Missouri
50 La Salle
74 Purdue
87 Princeton
88 New Mexico St.
121 Kent St.
124 Loyola MD
133 George Mason
139 Niagara
161 Penn St.
196 Columbia
238 Marist
261 Cornell
275 Dartmouth
330 St. Francis PA
350 West Alabama

165.8 Mean
136.0 Median
64.8 Top 5
87.8 Top Half

Note: There are no Pomeroy rankings, so I put in a number. West Alabama was better than Haverford.


One amazing thing is the quality of the 2005-06 top five - an average ranking of 25. Looking at the RPI, the average of the top five was about 17, with Duke and Villanova being ranked 1st and 2nd that year. The 2012-13 schedule didn't have nearly that kind of quality at the top - but it was a lot deeper with nine teams in the top 140 and ten in the top 161.




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08-16-17 04:12 PM - Post#232088    

To have St. Joe's and Nova both come to Sojka was amazing in 2005-2006. The stadium was full to well beyond capacity both times with Sojka being absolutely packed for the Nova game.

I would love to see 4,000+ people again for a couple of games this year, but I do not see any teams that would attract that kind of crowd.
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08-16-17 04:28 PM - Post#232091    

The official attendance for Villanova was 4433 - but the actual attendance was much higher than that. Many students couldn't get tickets but were able to sneak in. One of many examples: I had six tickets and got 11 people in with those six tickets.

St. Joes was played during Christmas break. Still had an official attendance of 4252, but I don't think that game had nearly as many off-the-book-attendees since students weren't around.



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08-16-17 05:09 PM - Post#232093    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
I just received information from a reliable source about the Phil Knight tournament (PK80) that the Bison will be involved with. It includes four games in total - two vs majors (UNC and Arkansas), who will then play in two simultaneous events in Portland, AND also two vs mid-majors. The latter two games reportedly will include one game in Sojka.

Assuming this is accurate - and I think it is - that increases the number of confirmed OOC games to nine - although the mid-major opponents are still a mystery.




The same source now tells me that PK80 has changed the way the games are being scheduled between the midmajor teams - at least for some of them. Instead of having one home and one away game, they are now going to have four teams at one site - with each team playing two of the three possible opponents. At least some of these round robins are over Thanksgiving weekend.






What this source said has been confirmed, at least for some of the second tier teams in PK80. UNH, instead of a home and road game against other midmajors, will instead play two neutral court games in Nashville vs Furman and Utah State over Thanksgiving weekend. No word as to whether there are three teams playing a round robin or four teams playing crossover double-headers two straight days. Given that both Furman and Utah State are located nowhere near Nashville, my guess would be that there is a fourth team involved (maybe Lipscomb). Hopefully that isn't the format Bucknell will be playing.

One other piece of news that might not be good. DePaul was a late addition into PK80 when Georgetown backed out. They released their schedule today, and there are no midmajors on it who are readily identifiable as PK80 opponents. It might be possible that DePaul's schedule was largely done and they couldn't accomodate the midmajors just prior to Thanksgiving. Don't know if that would affect how many available games there are for other midmajors when they match up against each other.



UNH Schedule: http://unhwildcats.com/news/2017/8/16/mens-b asketb...
DePaul Schedule: http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sp...



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08-16-17 05:28 PM - Post#232095    

  • Bison137 Said:
Hopefully that isn't the format Bucknell will be playing.

Do you say that out of a desire for a home game instead?

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08-16-17 06:44 PM - Post#232101    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
Hopefully that isn't the format Bucknell will be playing.

Do you say that out of a desire for a home game instead?





Yes. There will be too few home games as it is. To lose an expected one wouldn't be good.



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08-16-17 07:18 PM - Post#232103    

3 thoughts:

1. Losing the projected home game is conjecture
2. A lost expected game might be offset by a non-expected game
3. The conjected lost game may not be manifest and could in fact still be supplemented by a non-expected game --- thereby resulting in an embarrassment of riches!
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08-16-17 07:29 PM - Post#232104    

I like the optimism, and I hope you're right. But I'm not so optimistic right now. I would be happy if they can find four D1 home games plus a D3. Anything more than that and I would be ecstatic. Have heard several times how much trouble they have had finding teams willing to play them, esp in Sojka.



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08-17-17 11:26 AM - Post#232114    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
137, how does this year's OOC strength of schedule compare to 2005-2006? I'm wondering if this is potentially the toughest schedule that Bucknell has ever had.



While we wait for this year's complete schedule, here are the schedules from 2005-06 and 2012-13, with each team's Pomeroy ranking:


2005-06:
2 Duke
5 Villanova
30 Northern Iowa
42 Saint Joseph's
50 Syracuse
90 DePaul
160 Santa Clara
182 Niagara
203 Boston University
228 Rider
233 Cornell
258 Yale
360 Haverford

141.8 Mean
160.0 Median
25.8 Top 5
46.0 Top Half


2012-13:

25 Missouri
50 La Salle
74 Purdue
87 Princeton
88 New Mexico St.
121 Kent St.
124 Loyola MD
133 George Mason
139 Niagara
161 Penn St.
196 Columbia
238 Marist
261 Cornell
275 Dartmouth
330 St. Francis PA
350 West Alabama

165.8 Mean
136.0 Median
64.8 Top 5
87.8 Top Half

Note: There are no Pomeroy rankings, so I put in a number. West Alabama was better than Haverford.


One amazing thing is the quality of the 2005-06 top five - an average ranking of 25. Looking at the RPI, the average of the top five was about 17, with Duke and Villanova being ranked 1st and 2nd that year. The 2012-13 schedule didn't have nearly that kind of quality at the top - but it was a lot deeper with nine teams in the top 140 and ten in the top 161.



Once the 2017-2018 schedule is confirmed, it would be interesting to compare it to the 2016-2017 schedule.

Here is last year's schedule:
http://www.bucknellbison.com/SportSelect.dbml?&...

So far, it looks like this year's schedule is SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult.
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08-17-17 01:00 PM - Post#232119    

  • Bison89 Said:
Once the 2017-2018 schedule is confirmed, it would be interesting to compare it to the 2016-2017 schedule.

And after you've done that, Bison137, don't forget to pick up Bison89's clothes from the cleaners.
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08-17-17 01:28 PM - Post#232121    

Not sure what "soon" means, but...
https://twitter.com/bucknell_mbb/status/8 982112014...
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08-17-17 02:51 PM - Post#232128    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
Once the 2017-2018 schedule is confirmed, it would be interesting to compare it to the 2016-2017 schedule.

And after you've done that, Bison137, don't forget to pick up Bison89's clothes from the cleaners.



I have a pair of shoes downstairs in my office building that is being shined and . . . .

BTW, I think that 137 loves crunching numbers and comparing teams!
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08-17-17 03:01 PM - Post#232129    

  • Bison89 Said:

BTW, I think that 137 loves crunching numbers and comparing teams!



so really, you were doing him a favor by making the request, and now he owes you
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08-17-17 05:35 PM - Post#232138    

http://stonybrookathletic s.com/news/2017/8/17/toge...

Game @ Stony Brook confirmed by the AD. Stony Brook plays at Ball State which likely means Bucknell will get Ball State at home
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08-17-17 06:36 PM - Post#232143    

  • JDBison2010 Said:
http://stonybrookathletic s.com/news/2017/8/17/toge...

Game @ Stony Brook confirmed by the AD. Stony Brook plays at Ball State which likely means Bucknell will get Ball State at home

From watching Stony Brook games online and on TV over the last few years, I've been wanting to see a game there. It looks like they have a great gym and gameday atmosphere.
http://stonybrookathletic s.com/sports/2016/8/25/fa...

But first, we must await the announcement of the date!
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08-17-17 07:27 PM - Post#232144    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • JDBison2010 Said:
http://stonybrookathletic s.com/news/2017/8/17/toge...

Game @ Stony Brook confirmed by the AD. Stony Brook plays at Ball State which likely means Bucknell will get Ball State at home

From watching Stony Brook games online and on TV over the last few years, I've been wanting to see a game there. It looks like they have a great gym and gameday atmosphere.
http://stonybrookathletic s.com/sports/2016/8/25/fa...

But first, we must await the announcement of the date!




The Stony Brook arena is about exactly the same size as Sojka, and was totally redone - at a cost of over $21 Million - a couple of years ago.

SB's athletics have benefited significantly from the influence of their local State Senator, who has served over 40 years - many of them as head of NY's Higher Education Committee and, earlier, the Education Committee. In addition to the money for the basketball arena, he was responsible for directing a huge amount of money to Stony Brook around 2000 to build a very nice football stadium, which now bears his name.



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08-17-17 08:21 PM - Post#232146    

Bucknell Schedule So Far

Fri Nov 10 @Monmouth
Wed Nov 15 @UNC
Sat Nov 18 @Maryland
Tue Nov 21 Siena
Sat Dec 16 @VCU
Fri Dec 22 La Salle

Dates Unknown:
@Arkansas
@Stony Brook
@St Joe's
@Richmond

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08-17-17 08:33 PM - Post#232147    

  • KenZ Said:
  • Bison89 Said:

BTW, I think that 137 loves crunching numbers and comparing teams!



so really, you were doing him a favor by making the request, and now he owes you



Hmmm, some might think so.
New season, new team, new dream . . .

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08-17-17 10:42 PM - Post#232149    

Am still trying to decipher the PK80 matchups. The more I look, the more I am unsure as to the Bison playing Ball State. There were supposed to be eight midmajors. Seven have been identified: UNH, Furman, Utah State, Bucknell, Stony Brook, Ball State, and Northeastern. Assuming nothing has changed, that leaves one mystery team.

There is reportedly a four-team two day matchup in Nashville: UNH, Furman, Utah State - plus either Northeastern or mystery team. Then there is the Bucknell group: Bucknell, Stony Brook, Ball State, and maybe a fourth team. Assuming Bucknell plays Stony Brook and also Ball State, that would leave either Northeastern or the mystery team with no-one to play. Also playing a three-team round robin stretches out the time required to get in the games, since three dates are required plus offdays. Much easier to have four teams exchange opponents - just requires two dates.

So, assuming no midmajor has dropped out, it seems plausible that Bucknell won't play Ball State but rather Northeastern or the mystery team. Hopefully we will find out shortly - and there have been no dropouts.

Btw, here are the PK80 matchups of the "elite" teams and the midmajors:

UNC - Bucknell
Arkansas - Bucknell
Connecticut - Stony Brook
Michigan State - Stony Brook
Oklahoma - Ball State
Oregon - Ball State
Ohio State - Northeastern
Stanford - Northeastern
Butler - Furman
Duke - Furman
Texas - UNH
Florida - UNH
DePaul - ? (schedule released but has room for one more game)
Gonzaga - ? (maybe Utah State)
Portland - ? (maybe Utah State)
Portland State - ? (maybe Utah State)




JDBison2010
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08-18-17 09:03 AM - Post#232152    

Won't have to guess much longer. Schedule comes out today at noon according to the Bucknell Athletics Twitter account
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08-18-17 09:20 AM - Post#232153    

  • JDBison2010 Said:
Won't have to guess much longer. Schedule comes out today at noon according to the Bucknell Athletics Twitter account



i'll still go ahead and guess that it will be Ball State despite B137s observations.

my gut on pk80 overall is that the two brackets are being managed as individual mte 'tournaments'. therefore, i conclude:
Motion Bracket:
- Utah State plays Gonzaga and Portland State
- Northeastern is fourth team to Nashville
Victory Bracket:
- only 3 D1 nonbracketed teams with late Depaul substitution
=> Ball Sate at Bucknell completes the triangle
- if Portland State and Depaul want 31st game they will get a non d1 team to be deemed a tournament participant and ise that as their fourth game (similar to what i am assuming Navy is doing with thei mte event to get the extra game).

the biggest driver in this conclusion is giving credence to the original Ball State / Bucknell game rumor as some level of credibility was earned as the source also pre announced the Ball State at Oregon matchup

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08-18-17 09:20 AM - Post#232154    

You guys are the Sherlock Holmes of of College BB --- don't think you have much wrong. Think the projection of Ball State holds up and Bison 137 will be slightly happier!
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08-18-17 09:44 AM - Post#232155    

I do like to see a strong schedule and Bucknell playing some high profile schools. However, as a season ticket holder it doesn't make me happy to have fewer home games against fewer interesting schools and perhaps one of those games against a D-3 school.
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08-18-17 10:25 AM - Post#232157    

  • KenZ Said:


my gut on pk80 overall is that the two brackets are being managed as individual mte 'tournaments'. therefore, i conclude:
Motion Bracket:
- Utah State plays Gonzaga and Portland State
- Northeastern is fourth team to Nashville
Victory Bracket:
- only 3 D1 nonbracketed teams with late Depaul substitution
=> Ball Sate at Bucknell completes the triangle
- if Portland State and Depaul want 31st game they will get a non d1 team to be deemed a tournament participant and ise that as their fourth game (similar to what i am assuming Navy is doing with thei mte event to get the extra game).






It occurred to me that another possibility - similar to your suggestion - is that there were never 8 non-bracketed teams at all. The tournament has 16 "elite" teams on paper, but the reality is that there are only 14 - since Portland and Portland State are weak mid-majors who got an invitation solely due to their location. It would be unappealing for any tournament mid-major to be told one of their road games, which they assumed would be against an opponent like UNC or Duke, is actually against a weak mid-major, i.e. Portland or Portland State.

So maybe Portland and Portland State have been destined all along to play only the three bracket games in Portland and not a fourth one. That would mean only 7 mid-majors (similar to the situation you suggest). Of course with Georgetown dropping out and DePaul being added, that added some confusion - but DePaul actually now has room on its schedule for one more game. So it could still add a home game vs a tournament mid-major, as long as they can make the two schedules work.



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08-18-17 10:27 AM - Post#232158    

Clues pouring in from Bucknell's social media accounts:

"Our OOC opponents combined for a 284-156 (.645) overall record and 155-79 (.662) conference record last season."
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08-18-17 10:31 AM - Post#232159    

Big 10, too?! Oh my!

"Conference breakdown: we will play 4 games vs. A-10; 2 vs. MAAC and America East; 1 each vs. ACC, SEC, Big 10, MAC, CAA."
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08-18-17 10:33 AM - Post#232160    

If only Bison137 had sufficient time, he could probably cross-reference the winning percentages and conference IDs and...voila!
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08-18-17 10:35 AM - Post#232161    

I see 2 games that we don't have info for. America East and CAA

They also came out with a tweet earlier saying we have 5 NCAA teams on the schedule. We know 4 which means that the 5th will either be Vermont or UNCW. Since UNCW already came out with their schedule this leaves us with Vermont.

If true, this schedule just got even more difficult
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08-18-17 10:37 AM - Post#232162    

WOW!!!

all D1, lets just hope those two adds are both at home.
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08-18-17 10:41 AM - Post#232163    

"The average 2016-17 final RPI of our OOC opponents is 95.2. 11 of the 13 teams finished .500 or better and 8 won 20+ games."
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08-18-17 10:48 AM - Post#232164    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Big 10, too?! Oh my!

"Conference breakdown: we will play 4 games vs. A-10; 2 vs. MAAC and America East; 1 each vs. ACC, SEC, Big 10, MAC, CAA."




Big 10 is Maryland.



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08-18-17 10:57 AM - Post#232165    

  • JDBison2010 Said:
I see 2 games that we don't have info for. America East and CAA

They also came out with a tweet earlier saying we have 5 NCAA teams on the schedule. We know 4 which means that the 5th will either be Vermont or UNCW. Since UNCW already came out with their schedule this leaves us with Vermont.

If true, this schedule just got even more difficult





Yes, looks like Vermont. As for the CAA team, there are three that haven't announced yet - Elon, JMU, and Northeastern. A couple others might be able to squeeze in one more game however.



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08-18-17 10:58 AM - Post#232166    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Big 10, too?! Oh my!

"Conference breakdown: we will play 4 games vs. A-10; 2 vs. MAAC and America East; 1 each vs. ACC, SEC, Big 10, MAC, CAA."




Big 10 is Maryland.

That cracks me up...over and over, my brain just REFUSES to adjust to Maryland being a Big 10 team.
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08-18-17 11:00 AM - Post#232167    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Big 10, too?! Oh my!

"Conference breakdown: we will play 4 games vs. A-10; 2 vs. MAAC and America East; 1 each vs. ACC, SEC, Big 10, MAC, CAA."




Big 10 is Maryland.

That cracks me up...over and over, my brain just REFUSES to adjust to Maryland being a Big 10 team.





Wait until someone tells you Rutgers is a Big 10 team!



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08-18-17 11:09 AM - Post#232168    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
"The average 2016-17 final RPI of our OOC opponents is 95.2. 11 of the 13 teams finished .500 or better and 8 won 20+ games."




Doing a little more deduction, we know only one opponent who finished worse than .500, i.e. St. Joseph's. If we assume the AE team is Vermont, that leaves the final unknown team (assuming Ball State is correct) to be a CAA team that finished below .500.

Northeastern and JMU fit that profile. Also Hofstra, Delaware, and Drexel - but their schedules are out. Hofstra might be able to squeeze in another game however.



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08-18-17 11:10 AM - Post#232169    

Northeastern
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08-18-17 11:17 AM - Post#232170    

  • KenZ Said:
Northeastern




Yes, that would be my bet as well. JMU is coming off a bad first year under a new coach. Not sure he would want to take on this year's Bison team at this point.



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08-18-17 11:20 AM - Post#232171    

that was fun

deduced Northeastern based on records

if UVM and Northeastern are both at Sojka, that is a very attractive home slate of opponents.


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08-18-17 11:25 AM - Post#232172    

We go very north NEXT year
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08-18-17 11:35 AM - Post#232173    

  • Old Bison Said:
We go very north NEXT year



uggh, so we've screwed this all up and are actually starting home and homes with Maine and Nova Scotia. i could have at least understood that when Mastro and Bryson were on the team, but now
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08-18-17 11:37 AM - Post#232174    

  • Bison137 Said:
Am still trying to decipher the PK80 matchups. The more I look, the more I am unsure as to the Bison playing Ball State. There were supposed to be eight midmajors. Seven have been identified: UNH, Furman, Utah State, Bucknell, Stony Brook, Ball State, and Northeastern. Assuming nothing has changed, that leaves one mystery team.

There is reportedly a four-team two day matchup in Nashville: UNH, Furman, Utah State - plus either Northeastern or mystery team. Then there is the Bucknell group: Bucknell, Stony Brook, Ball State, and maybe a fourth team. Assuming Bucknell plays Stony Brook and also Ball State, that would leave either Northeastern or the mystery team with no-one to play. Also playing a three-team round robin stretches out the time required to get in the games, since three dates are required plus offdays. Much easier to have four teams exchange opponents - just requires two dates.

So, assuming no midmajor has dropped out, it seems plausible that Bucknell won't play Ball State but rather Northeastern or the mystery team. Hopefully we will find out shortly - and there have been no dropouts.

Btw, here are the PK80 matchups of the "elite" teams and the midmajors:

UNC - Bucknell
Arkansas - Bucknell
Connecticut - Stony Brook
Michigan State - Stony Brook
Oklahoma - Ball State
Oregon - Ball State
Ohio State - Northeastern
Stanford - Northeastern
Butler - Furman
Duke - Furman
Texas - UNH
Florida - UNH
DePaul - ? (schedule released but has room for one more game)
Gonzaga - ? (maybe Utah State)
Portland - ? (maybe Utah State)
Portland State - ? (maybe Utah State)





Darn! Given my new west coast environs, I would have loved a Stanford - Bucknell matchup!

Gmoney89 (In the shadow of St Marys College)
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08-18-17 11:37 AM - Post#232175    

but we don't have to go to Maine or NS THIS year so 137 is happy!
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08-18-17 11:40 AM - Post#232176    

  • Old Bison Said:
We go very north NEXT year

AHA! I KNEW OldBison was holding out on more info!!
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08-18-17 11:43 AM - Post#232177    

Yes, he has been intentionally tipping his hand with his last several posts.

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08-18-17 11:44 AM - Post#232178    

Mount Mansfield and Lake Champlain --- I think we're talking latitude as opposed to longitude but I never took Peterec
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08-18-17 11:55 AM - Post#232179    

since they have bot indicated otherwise, i assume the yannouncement will be through posting a story on The athletics website. anyone know for sure?
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08-18-17 12:02 PM - Post#232180    

It's 12:01...they're late!

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08-18-17 12:05 PM - Post#232182    

KA-BOOM!
http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_O...

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08-18-17 12:07 PM - Post#232183    

Correct on Vermont and Northeastern. vermont home, Northeastern away.

Arkansas on November 12th.



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08-18-17 12:16 PM - Post#232184    

What a brutal 8 day span to start the season. I'd say "poor students" looking at this schedule, considering they may only be around for 2 of the 4 home games, but I don't have much faith in our student body to give them the support they deserve anyway
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08-18-17 12:18 PM - Post#232185    

2017-18 Bucknell Non-Conference Schedule:

Nov. 10 at Monmouth

Nov. 12 at Arkansas^

Nov. 15 at North Carolina^

Nov. 18 at Maryland

Nov. 20 SIENA

Nov. 22 BALL STATE^

Nov. 26 at Stony Brook^

Nov. 29 at Saint Joseph’s

Dec. 2 VERMONT

Dec. 5 at Northeastern

Dec. 16 at VCU

Dec. 19 at Richmond

Dec. 22 LA SALLE


- - - - -

Extremely challenging schedule, but maybe too challenging when it comes to travel the first few weeks. Up until Thanksgiving, it looks like this:

Nov. 10 at Monmouth
Nov. 12 at Arkansas^
Nov. 15 at North Carolina^
Nov. 18 at Maryland
Nov. 20 SIENA
Nov. 22 BALL STATE^


Two questions:

1. Are they going to be away from campus for over a week while school is in session? From Monmouth, they obviously fly to Arkansas. From Arkansas, it would make little sense not to fly to UNC directly. If they returned to Lewisburg, it would be for one day of class. And once they are at UNC on a Wednesday, does it make sense to return to Lewisburg for one day and then turn around and bus back to Maryland?

2. Are they going to have time for any practices at all the first few weeks?



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08-18-17 12:19 PM - Post#232186    

  • JDBison2010 Said:
. I'd say "poor students" looking at this schedule, considering they may only be around for 2 of the 4 home games, but I don't have much faith in our student body to give them the support they deserve anyway




I think only one home game while students are there. Remember that Thanksgiving break now encompasses the entire week.



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08-18-17 12:19 PM - Post#232187    

Tip-off Classic starts at McCloone's (on the boardwalk)in Long Branch - 11/10 @ 5 p.m.

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08-18-17 12:23 PM - Post#232188    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • JDBison2010 Said:
. I'd say "poor students" looking at this schedule, considering they may only be around for 2 of the 4 home games, but I don't have much faith in our student body to give them the support they deserve anyway




I think only one home game while students are there. Remember that Thanksgiving break now encompasses the entire week.




Ah I did not realize it's a full week now. Well hopefully they show up for the Vermont game then

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08-18-17 01:40 PM - Post#232193    

Top OOC schedules for teams not in P6 conference - based on Pomeroy rankings from last year:


1 Monmouth 96.75
2 Bucknell 108.769
3 La Salle
4 Middle TN
5 Siena
6 Princeton
7 Mississippi Valley
8 Dayton
9 Prairie View A&M
10 Oakland 147.461

https://twitter.com/Fieldof68Freak/status /89859517...


Also with almost 80% of the 75 P6 teams having released OOC schedules, only two (Kentucky and Alabama) have tougher schedules than the Bison. So in total, BU has the 4th toughest OOC schedule in the nation at this point. Might get tougher, since I expect Ball State, Stony Brook, La Salle, and especially St. Joes to be significantly better than last year.



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08-18-17 01:43 PM - Post#232194    

Bucknell’s non-league opponents produced an average final RPI ranking of 95.2 and an average Pomeroy rating of 108.7...based on the numbers I recall from a previous post for the 05'-06' & the 12'-13' ooc's, this is a much tougher schedule than those. Is this in fact the strongest ooc ever for the Bison?
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08-18-17 01:44 PM - Post#232195    

Btw, here is Monmouth's schedule that nosed out Bucknell for toughest non-P6 ooc schedule:

Bucknell
Seton Hall
Lehigh
Virginia
UNC Asheville
Penn
Albany
UConn
Hofstra
Kentucky
Princeton
Yale



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08-18-17 01:52 PM - Post#232198    

  • BisonFan4 Said:
Bucknell’s non-league opponents produced an average final RPI ranking of 95.2 and an average Pomeroy rating of 108.7...based on the numbers I recall from a previous post for the 05'-06' & the 12'-13' ooc's, this is a much tougher schedule than those. Is this in fact the strongest ooc ever for the Bison?





Yes, definitely the toughest overall ooc schedule ever - based on last year's rankings. I just posted a comparison on a new thread.



res
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08-18-17 02:00 PM - Post#232200    

  • Bison137 Said:
Also with almost 80% of the 75 P6 teams having released OOC schedules, only two (Kentucky and Alabama) have tougher schedules than the Bison.



I wonder. When you factor in where the games are played, Bucknell's nine true road games might make this a tougher schedule than those two who are bound to have more home and neutral games. Admittedly, I haven't checked.

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08-18-17 02:06 PM - Post#232201    

First schedule without an Ivy opponent since 1986-87.

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08-18-17 02:39 PM - Post#232204    

I Lovermont!
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08-18-17 02:42 PM - Post#232205    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:


Wow, I went out to lunch and came back to this! What a great schedule. The Bison will definitely be ready to compete in the PL.

GO BISON!!!
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08-18-17 02:45 PM - Post#232206    

  • Old Bison Said:
Tip-off Classic starts at McCloone's (on the boardwalk)in Long Branch - 11/10 @ 5 p.m.




Looks like I will have to take a 1/2 day on 11/10. Count me in!
New season, new team, new dream . . .

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08-18-17 02:51 PM - Post#232207    

I'll be there @ 5 sharp. Whoever shows with an orange shirt is on my tab...no joking...how much can you lunatics drink in an hour and a half. I'll get Flannery there to stifle any serious attempt to defund me.
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08-18-17 02:54 PM - Post#232208    

Wow, how I love that they managed to put VCU and Richmond back to back!

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08-18-17 03:13 PM - Post#232209    

  • Old Bison Said:
I'll be there @ 5 sharp. Whoever shows with an orange shirt is on my tab...no joking...how much can you lunatics drink in an hour and a half. I'll get Flannery there to stifle any serious attempt to defund me.



Old Bison, in the modern days of Uber, I can drink a lot in 90 minutes! Not having to drive make a HUGE difference.
New season, new team, new dream . . .

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08-18-17 03:40 PM - Post#232210    

GOOD - hopefully that will make you a more vociferous fan than usual. Tab will be under Old Bison at 5 sharp. Only requirement for service is orange shirt or jumper. Tim S, Gerry C and Jeff R are the invited "guests of honor" - they just don't know it yet but they will be so advised on 8/25
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08-18-17 03:50 PM - Post#232211    

They're probably not gonna like that with respect to the "official" reception but you'll have to discern whether cocktails on the ocean with a bunch of Halloween costumed loonies is more your style. Opening night game given the next 3 (and appropriately supportive crowd) will be important --- road games always tough and opening night rust and jitters unfortunately levels the playing field for the underdog. Think Manhattan cut the score to 4 late last year before we took command
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08-18-17 03:57 PM - Post#232212    

Further...no 25 year old Jameson's or bottles of Opus One. Just normal martini's and craft beers
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08-18-17 04:02 PM - Post#232213    

I didn't realize the Big 10 had a "D" division

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08-18-17 04:12 PM - Post#232215    

  • Bison54 Said:
I didn't realize the Big 10 had a "D" division



They certainly have an "R" division.
New season, new team, new dream . . .

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08-18-17 04:13 PM - Post#232216    

  • Old Bison Said:
Further...no 25 year old Jameson's or bottles of Opus One. Just normal martini's and craft beers



OB, I am a steady beer drinker. My gut shows it!
New season, new team, new dream . . .

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08-18-17 04:42 PM - Post#232219    

Great schedule, or suicide schedule? Guess we will find out.
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08-18-17 05:37 PM - Post#232220    

  • bison63 Said:
Great schedule, or suicide schedule? Guess we will find out.

A great schedule. One possession at a time, baby.

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08-18-17 07:04 PM - Post#232221    

We will win more of these games than we lose. This team is that good.
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08-18-17 08:28 PM - Post#232222    

  • Old Bison Said:
I'll be there @ 5 sharp. Whoever shows with an orange shirt is on my tab...no joking...how much can you lunatics drink in an hour and a half. I'll get Flannery there to stifle any serious attempt to defund me.




You may have more on the line than you realize. Monmouth has a doubleheader that evening, with the men's game second. Rumors are that it won't start earlier than 8:30 PM.



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08-18-17 09:19 PM - Post#232223    

  • Old Bison Said:
I'll be there @ 5 sharp. Whoever shows with an orange shirt is on my tab...no joking...how much can you lunatics drink in an hour and a half. I'll get Flannery there to stifle any serious attempt to defund me.



Thats a pretty big carrot you're dangling. I like beer and the Bison. Lots of away games this year and tough ones too. Are the Bison tough enough to handle this? I don't know.



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08-18-17 11:21 PM - Post#232226    

Come Bucknell Warriors

Come Bucknell warriors,
Hopes are on you!
We're here to aid you
With a spirit true!
Rah, rah, rah
Give them a cheer boys,
Yell after yell!
Then we'll bring victory
To old Bucknell

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BisonFan4
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08-18-17 11:37 PM - Post#232227    

I believe this Bison team is more than equipped to handle such a strong schedule. This is a very talented team & we are in for a very special season this year! Go Bison!
Old Bison
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08-19-17 06:09 AM - Post#232228    

Dressed in orange shirt you're on me. If you wear orange pants as well than you're on the special tab with the 25 year old Jameson!☘️🇮🇪
Old Bison
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08-19-17 06:10 AM - Post#232229    

That's ok - Flannery will keep you in line
Old Bison
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08-19-17 06:23 AM - Post#232230    

Btw - I wasn't aware of the twin bill. If that means a lot more people may be spending the night the 3 best hotels are the Ocean Place Hilton in LB and the Oyster Point and Molly Pitcher Inn (both next to each other in Red Bank). Red Bank would still be active post an 8:30 start. I will be in bed at that stage as I am an Old Bison
HuskyColonial
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08-19-17 07:04 AM - Post#232231    

WOW! That's how you get ready for League play. I think we should start the season 4-0. Think we'd get anyone's attention?
Bison89
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08-19-17 09:40 AM - Post#232232    

Husky, I LOVE the idea of a 4-0 start, but I just don't see it. That being said, I hope that the Bison prove me wrong. I would be very happy with a 2-2 start with single digit losses.
New season, new team, new dream . . .

Gmoney89
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08-21-17 12:09 AM - Post#232246    

  • Old Bison Said:
I'll be there @ 5 sharp. Whoever shows with an orange shirt is on my tab...no joking...how much can you lunatics drink in an hour and a half. I'll get Flannery there to stifle any serious attempt to defund me.


You really tempt me to fly back east for this one!!
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08-21-17 03:08 PM - Post#232254    

The Daily Item has a boring almost direct copy of Bucknell's press release:

http://www.dailyitem.com/sports/men-s-basketba ll-t...
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BisonRoadWarrior
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08-21-17 03:12 PM - Post#232255    

  • Bison89 Said:
The Daily Item has a boring almost direct copy of Bucknell's press release:

And yet you choose to present it to us...

Bison137
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08-21-17 04:14 PM - Post#232258    

You might be slightly harsh. At least they have a lot of Ben Robertson quotes that weren't in the Bison release. Fwiw, the Daily Item seems like they may be devoting more effort to covering Bison sports this year - presumably because they recently became a sponsor.

Recent football article: http://www.dailyitem.com/sports/team-comes-fir st-a...

Recent soccer article: https://twitter.com/MTrudnak



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08-21-17 04:51 PM - Post#232261    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
The Daily Item has a boring almost direct copy of Bucknell's press release:

And yet you choose to present it to us...




Yes, you are right. I should not have posted it, but misery loves company.
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08-22-17 12:08 PM - Post#232285    

Bucknell is the headline opponent in this Arkansas news report on the Razorbacks' schedule:
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017/aug/22/ua-...

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08-22-17 01:19 PM - Post#232290    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Bucknell is the headline opponent in this Arkansas news report on the Razorbacks' schedule:
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017/aug/22/ua-...



Bucknell is mentioned several times. I guess with Bucknell having knocked Arkansas out of the Dance many years ago in the only game that the two teams have played, this is a high profile game for them.

BTW, here is a box score from the 2006 game:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/200...

I never realized that McNaughton had only 6 points. I can't remember. Was he in foul trouble for most of the game?

Also, for those younger people who follow this board, 2006 was during the Pat Flannery era. He stressed DEFENSE, DEFENSE, and more DEFENSE. It was not uncommon for Bucknell to hold teams under 50 points.
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Bison137
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08-22-17 01:50 PM - Post#232292    

  • Bison89 Said:

I never realized that McNaughton had only 6 points. I can't remember. Was he in foul trouble for most of the game?






Not in foul trouble for most of the game. Although he ended up with four fouls, three of them were in the final minutes of play. I think the Arkansas defense collapsed on him a lot, making it hard to get shots.

Here is the game article and box score from the BU site: http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSI...



One funny thing is that if you look at the Arkansas basketball forum, a number of their fans delusionally think that the Bucknell win was a big upset. Arkansas would have won easily were it not for bad coaching.




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08-22-17 02:15 PM - Post#232293    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bison89 Said:

I never realized that McNaughton had only 6 points. I can't remember. Was he in foul trouble for most of the game?






Not in foul trouble for most of the game. Although he ended up with four fouls, three of them were in the final minutes of play. I think the Arkansas defense collapsed on him a lot, making it hard to get shots.

Here is the game article and box score from the BU site: http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSI...



One funny thing is that if you look at the Arkansas basketball forum, a number of their fans delusionally think that the Bucknell win was a big upset. Arkansas would have won easily were it not for bad coaching.





Personally, I always thought of Bucknell as the favorite even though they were the lower seed. From checking Kenpom.com 2006, Arkansas was ranked #19 and Bucknell #56. Looking at those numbers, I can see why the Arkansas faithful thought that they would easily win.

Kenpom.com 2006: https://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2006
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08-22-17 02:38 PM - Post#232296    

In terms of appreciating Bucknell as having a substantial chance of winning that 2006 tournament game, one need only consider the fact that it was an 8 vs 9 game.
bison63
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08-22-17 04:49 PM - Post#232303    

I remember the Ark fans pointing out on this board that playing in Dallas was like a home game for the Hogs. Oops!
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08-22-17 04:59 PM - Post#232305    

  • Bison89 Said:

Personally, I always thought of Bucknell as the favorite even though they were the lower seed. From checking Kenpom.com 2006, Arkansas was ranked #19 and Bucknell #56. Looking at those numbers, I can see why the Arkansas faithful thought that they would easily win.

Kenpom.com 2006: https://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2006





I think Bucknell's 56 ranking signicantly understates the quality of that team. You may recall after the wins over Syracuse, DePaul, and St. Joes, and a few other good performances, they were ranked much higher. However I had the feeling they were kind of bored when PL play started - and their ranking dropped during those two months.

When playing American, Lafayette, Colgate, Navy, and Army, they had to win by 25-37 points simply to keep from dropping in the rankings. And they had to beat Lehigh by 15+ points. I don't think they had the killer instinct to try to crush those league opponents, and Pat had no desire to run up the score. How many points could they have beaten Colgate or Army by had they played with the same intensity as when they played Syracuse or avillanova?



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08-22-17 07:00 PM - Post#232310    

Sad news out of Ball State. One of their players has passed away.

https://www.hustlebelt.com/platform/amp/2017/8/2 2/...
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08-22-17 10:11 PM - Post#232314    

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Sad news out of Ball State. One of their players has passed away.

https://www.hustlebelt.com/platform/amp/2017/8/2 2/...



It is always sad to hear when one who is just starting their life passes away. My condolences to his family and teammates.
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08-23-17 11:25 AM - Post#232321    

Vermont released its schedule, and posted a 7pm tip time for the Saturday, Dec 2 game at Bucknell.
http://uvmathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

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08-23-17 11:52 AM - Post#232322    

Vermont has 15 OOC games - and only two D1 home games (Siena and Quinnipiac). Apparently they were in the same boat as the Bison in terms of finding opponents who wanted to play them at home. Schedule is not quite as hard as that of Bucknell, but it is a good one, featuring games at Kentucky and at Marquette. They also play three games in Nassau (Bahamas) in a mid-major tournament where the best opponents are Iona and Northern Kentucky. They will have a reasonable chance to win that one.

Vermont returns most of their team that went 29-6 last year, including a 21-game winning streak prior to a loss in the NCAA tournament.



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08-23-17 02:35 PM - Post#232327    

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Sad news out of Ball State. One of their players has passed away.

https://www.hustlebelt.com/platform/amp/2017/8/2 2/...


An especially harsh way to lose a teammate:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/...
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08-23-17 03:51 PM - Post#232331    

  • Bison137 Said:
Vermont has 15 OOC games - and only two D1 home games (Siena and Quinnipiac). Apparently they were in the same boat as the Bison in terms of finding opponents who wanted to play them at home. Schedule is not quite as hard as that of Bucknell, but it is a good one, featuring games at Kentucky and at Marquette. They also play three games in Nassau (Bahamas) in a mid-major tournament where the best opponents are Iona and Northern Kentucky. They will have a reasonable chance to win that one.

Vermont returns most of their team that went 29-6 last year, including a 21-game winning streak prior to a loss in the NCAA tournament.


I saw them play in January and they are a talented team. Gave Purdue a tough time in the 1st round. I'm really looking forward to this game. Might have to take a road trip to Burlington next year.
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08-23-17 05:05 PM - Post#232333    

  • jkrun80 Said:
Might have to take a road trip to Burlington next year.

Yes, I'm hoping that one falls on a favorable date. Great opponent, appealing destination, and I haven't seen the Bison play in that state yet.
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08-23-17 05:46 PM - Post#232335    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • jkrun80 Said:
Might have to take a road trip to Burlington next year.

Yes, I'm hoping that one falls on a favorable date. Great opponent, appealing destination, and I haven't seen the Bison play in that state yet.





I don't think anyone has seen the Bison play in that state yet. I believe BU has never played a game in Vermont.



jkrun80
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08-23-17 07:57 PM - Post#232339    

Even though Bucknell has never played Vermont, there is a connection of sorts between the two teams. Anyone care to guess?
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08-23-17 08:18 PM - Post#232340    

  • jkrun80 Said:
Even though Bucknell has never played Vermont, there is a connection of sorts between the two teams. Anyone care to guess?




No idea, other than one of their players having been a HS teammate of Ryan Frazier. Just to clarify, the Bison have actually played Vermont twice - but both games were in Lewisburg.



jkrun80
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08-23-17 08:21 PM - Post#232341    

Hint: relates to the NCAA tournament.
Bucknellbisonfan21
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08-23-17 08:22 PM - Post#232342    

  • jkrun80 Said:
Even though Bucknell has never played Vermont, there is a connection of sorts between the two teams. Anyone care to guess?


Is it that both Bucknell and Vermont biggest wins in school history came on the same night when Vermont beat Syracuse and Bucknell beat Kansas?
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08-23-17 08:23 PM - Post#232343    

  • Bison137 Said:
No idea, other than one of their players having been a HS teammate of Ryan Frazier. Just to clarify, the Bison have actually played Vermont twice - but both games were in Lewisburg.



You're right, but I think both were neutral site games.

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08-23-17 08:38 PM - Post#232344    

  • jkrun80 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
No idea, other than one of their players having been a HS teammate of Ryan Frazier. Just to clarify, the Bison have actually played Vermont twice - but both games were in Lewisburg.



You're right, but I think both were neutral site games.





Yes my mistake. Played them at Marist and at Mohegan Sun tournament.



bison63
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08-23-17 08:47 PM - Post#232345    

That has to be it. VT A 13 seed iirc, beat Uconn earlier that evening. Our win (14 vs. 3) actually may have taken some of the spotlight from them.
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08-23-17 08:48 PM - Post#232346    

And since Vermont came earlier in the evening, they got disproportionate media attention.
jkrun80
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08-23-17 08:56 PM - Post#232347    

  • bison63 Said:
That has to be it. VT A 13 seed iirc, beat Uconn earlier that evening. Our win (14 vs. 3) actually may have taken some of the spotlight from them.



Bingo, though it was vs. Syracuse. Vermont won in OT 60-57 for their first and only tournament win. Made two 3's in the last couple minutes to take the lead. Syracuse missed a last second 3 to tie. Another coincidence, the game was played in Worcester and Holy Cross was the official host.
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08-23-17 09:05 PM - Post#232348    

  • jkrun80 Said:
  • bison63 Said:
That has to be it. VT A 13 seed iirc, beat Uconn earlier that evening. Our win (14 vs. 3) actually may have taken some of the spotlight from them.



Bingo, though it was vs. Syracuse. Vermont won in OT 60-57 for their first and only tournament win. Made two 3's in the last couple minutes to take the lead. Syracuse missed a last second 3 to tie. Another coincidence, the game was played in Worcester and Holy Cross was the official host.




"...Sorrentine hit that one from the parking lot!" (Gus Johnson, 1:12 left in OT) Stuff of legends.
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08-23-17 10:29 PM - Post#232350    

  • Raymond Bucknell Said:

"...Sorrentine hit that one from the parking lot!" (Gus Johnson, 1:12 left in OT) Stuff of legends.


https://youtu.be/cbFNFHsNo3w?t=13s

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08-25-17 09:56 PM - Post#232425    

Vermont coach: “For our fans, and our players, I wish we had more home games for sure. It’s really disappointing, but there is nothing I could do,” Becker said. “No one wants to play here at all. I apologize to our fans. We really tried."

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/sports/co...

JDBison2010
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08-26-17 08:11 AM - Post#232427    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Vermont coach: “For our fans, and our players, I wish we had more home games for sure. It’s really disappointing, but there is nothing I could do,” Becker said. “No one wants to play here at all. I apologize to our fans. We really tried."

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/sports/co...




Article also notes that our series is a 3 year deal. Bucknell gets another home game in 2019

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08-26-17 10:00 AM - Post#232430    

Wow, it that's accurate, it's a real coup for the Bison.



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08-28-17 10:01 AM - Post#232449    

CBS Sports basketball analyst Jon Rothstein on Bucknell's schedule:

"Bucknell should be one of the top mid-major teams next season, but Bison head coach Nathan Davis might have gone overboard with his non-conference schedule. Before Patriot League play, Bucknell will travel to North Carolina, Arkansas, Maryland, VCU, Saint Joseph’s, Richmond, and Monmouth while hosting La Salle and America East favorite Vermont. Crazy!"

https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothstein-files-k ...
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08-28-17 11:42 AM - Post#232451    

As tough as the Bison OOC schedule is - and it is one of the top few in the nation - it won't be #1 in that category. Here is the newly-released Texas Southern OOC schedule:


at Gonzaga

at Washington State

at Ohio State

at Syracuse

at Kansas

at Clemson

at Oakland

at Toledo

at Oregon

at Baylor

at Wyoming

at TCU

at BYU



atlantabison
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08-28-17 02:11 PM - Post#232452    

No home games, are they trying to fund their entire athletic program??
Ray Bucknell!

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08-28-17 03:08 PM - Post#232453    

  • atlantabison Said:
No home games, are they trying to fund their entire athletic program??




Yes. A number of the HBCU schools do this to some extent - but rarely at this level. Texas Southern last year also played all,13 OOC games on the road, but it was not as strong a schedule as this year.

Btw, their head coach is Mike Davis- who has been working his way down in the world. He was the successor at Indiana to Bobby Knight when Knight was fired. Then Davis went to UAB after being fired at Indiana. Then went to TX Southern after UAB fired him.



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08-28-17 03:24 PM - Post#232454    

Following up on the above, the ten teams in the SWAC had a grand total of 9 D1 OOC home games last year.



HuskyColonial
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08-28-17 03:28 PM - Post#232455    

That's a sad way to finance athletics for students. We've really lost our way in higher education funding. Sorry, I'm editorializing.
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09-02-17 04:11 PM - Post#232576    

reports that Demetrius Henry has left LaSalle's team to pursue professional opportunities. was likely their starter at center.
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09-02-17 07:22 PM - Post#232584    

  • KenZ Said:
reports that Demetrius Henry has left LaSalle's team to pursue professional opportunities. was likely their starter at center.



I wonder if either 1. He really needs money, or 2. He was having academic issues.
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09-03-17 09:21 AM - Post#232598    

  • Bison89 Said:
  • KenZ Said:
reports that Demetrius Henry has left LaSalle's team to pursue professional opportunities. was likely their starter at center.



I wonder if either 1. He really needs money, or 2. He was having academic issues.



apparently neither.. here is his version of situation, assume a Giannini interview might sound a bit different:

http://www.a10talk.com/demetrius-henry-expla ins-de...
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09-03-17 09:54 AM - Post#232600    

Henry explained the basis for his opinion and actions very well. Personally, I am very torn over how and when student-athletes should or should not take a social stand. It would be interesting to hear Coach Giannini's side of the story.

This era seems to have a lot of similarities to the late-60s/early-70s except coaches back then did not have social media to deal with. Not that it has ever been easy to be a head coach, but being one now must be difficult.
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09-14-17 01:09 PM - Post#232835    

The game at Notheastern December 5th is at 7:00 according to Northeastern's schedule. No surprise for a Tuesday game.
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09-19-17 04:19 PM - Post#232985    

CBS Sports Network games have been announced:
Mon, Jan 15: Bucknell at Colgate
Sun, Jan 28: Bucknell at Boston University
Mon, Feb 5: Bucknell at Lehigh
Mon, Feb 12: Colgate at Bucknell

Plus a chance at being picked during the Feb 17 and Feb 24 "flex" dates, when we are at Holy Cross and at American.

Note only one of the six is at the Patriot League's most telegenic venue.

Details and other league games that were picked:
http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_O...
A Western Bison
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09-19-17 04:39 PM - Post#232987    

Well, there could semi a semi and a final in that favored venue.

I am not in the weeds of the rosters and stats, but I remember Colgate as having some potential for at least scaring the upper echelon. Am I daft?
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09-19-17 07:41 PM - Post#233000    

  • A Western Bison Said:
Well, there could semi a semi and a final in that favored venue.

I am not in the weeds of the rosters and stats, but I remember Colgate as having some potential for at least scaring the upper echelon. Am I daft?


Based on Bison137's analysis on another thread, Bucknell and Boston look the strongest, with Navy likely 3rd. American, Lehigh, and HC seem to be very weak. The four spots in the middle are up for grabs. Army and Lafayette will be much improved, but how much? So, yes, Colgate has a realistic shot to be top 5, along with Loyola IMHO.
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09-19-17 09:15 PM - Post#233003    

The posted schedule now includes the league games, and tip times have been added for several of the non-conference ones:
http://www.bucknellbison.com/SportSelect.dbml?&...

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09-21-17 07:29 AM - Post#233081    

Any idea why the Monmouth game is an 8:30pm start? Is it on TV?

BtW, I'm not complaining. That gives Old Bison more time to buy drinks for everybody in orange!
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09-21-17 07:39 AM - Post#233082    

This will be the best traveling Bison contingent since Columbia a few years ok. Face paint gets premium brand access!!
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09-21-17 09:09 AM - Post#233086    

  • Bison89 Said:
Any idea why the Monmouth game is an 8:30pm start? Is it on TV?

BtW, I'm not complaining. That gives Old Bison more time to buy drinks for everybody in orange!



Monmouth women play Sacred Heart at 7 so I think our game will tip later than the scheduled 8:30
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09-21-17 10:29 AM - Post#233098    

I think the Monmouth game will be on ESPN3 and MAAC.tv.

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09-25-17 11:36 AM - Post#233208    

The decision of going to the Monmouth game is a tough one. Would love to see an opening game on the road.
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09-25-17 12:42 PM - Post#233214    

  • S2YB Said:
The decision of going to the Monmouth game is a tough one. Would love to see an opening game on the road.

What's making it a tough decision?

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09-25-17 01:19 PM - Post#233216    

BRW, you beat me to it!
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09-25-17 02:39 PM - Post#233219    

Yes, S2YB left us hanging. "Would love to see an opening game on the road," but.....
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09-25-17 02:50 PM - Post#233220    

I attribute the hesitation to the excuse that I’m a broke college student.
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09-25-17 04:14 PM - Post#233221    

Yeah, but there's free drinks at McCloone's if you wear orange. Since you're a college student you'll need O&B face paint to disguise your under 21 age restriction as well. And don't drive if you do!!
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09-25-17 04:28 PM - Post#233222    

I'm wondering if they'll do a fan bus for Monmouth.

Old Bison
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09-25-17 04:38 PM - Post#233224    

Don't send that to McCloones or I got to go to a private room with Tap beer and Wine!
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09-25-17 05:33 PM - Post#233225    

  • Old Bison Said:
Don't send that to McCloones or I got to go to a private room with Tap beer and Wine!

They may sell out three busses if word of your offer gets around!

S2YB
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09-25-17 08:35 PM - Post#233229    

I have some friends at Monmouth that can help me out with that maybe make a weekend trip of it.
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09-28-17 01:49 PM - Post#233318    

Arkansas tip time announced: 5pm on Sunday Nov 12, on SEC Network.
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/razorbacks-add-t...

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10-03-17 04:42 PM - Post#233492    

St Joe's tip time: 7pm on Wednesday, Nov 29. (Not on TV)

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10-03-17 05:56 PM - Post#233496    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
St Joe's tip time: 7pm on Wednesday, Nov 29. (Not on TV)



That is perfect. My office is at 5th & Market. If anybody is up for dinner near St. Joe's before the game at around 5:30, please PM me.
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10-05-17 10:38 AM - Post#233528    

The NCAA Committee on Infractions will release its final report on the UNC academic scandal tomorrow at noon, to include any penalties.
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10-05-17 10:54 AM - Post#233529    

A concise refresher on the central questions in the NCAA's investigation of UNC academics:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorial...
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10-05-17 12:06 PM - Post#233530    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
A concise refresher on the central questions in the NCAA's investigation of UNC academics:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorial...




When it comes to athletes, "UNC academics" might be considered an oxymoron.



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10-05-17 02:02 PM - Post#233531    

The big question: Will Roy be on the bench for the Bucknell game? We're the second non-exhibition game of the UNC season, so even a short suspension could mean he's not.
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10-05-17 02:49 PM - Post#233532    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
A concise refresher on the central questions in the NCAA's investigation of UNC academics:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorial...



Classes with high grades and no professorial oversight? My GPA could have used a couple of classes like that!!!
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10-05-17 03:15 PM - Post#233533    

  • Bison89 Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
A concise refresher on the central questions in the NCAA's investigation of UNC academics:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorial...



Classes with high grades and no professorial oversight? My GPA could have used a couple of classes like that!!!




And the UNC courses were even easier than you state: "no faculty involvement; no class attendance; no compliance with independent study requirements; high grades awarded by a staffer and in some cases forged grades". And in some cases, no work at all - literally. Just sign up for the course and then await your high grade.



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10-05-17 06:36 PM - Post#233536    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
The NCAA Committee on Infractions will release its final report on the UNC academic scandal tomorrow at noon, to include any penalties.




False alarm. UNC says the report will not be released tomorrow. However it does sound like it will be soon.



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10-05-17 09:44 PM - Post#233540    

"Based on the source’s report that an email had been sent out by the NCAA, The News & Observer tweeted on Thursday morning that the ruling was expected to be released on Friday.

Hours after the NCAA sent that email, though, the university announced that the NCAA’s final report would not be released on Friday due to 'scheduling circumstances.' UNC on Friday is set to announce a multibillion-dollar fundraising campaign, and campus events are scheduled throughout the weekend.

'Due to scheduling circumstances, there will be no release (on Friday) regarding the NCAA Committee on Infractions decision,' Joel Curran, UNC’s vice chancellor of communications, said in a statement.
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/un c...
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10-06-17 07:22 AM - Post#233541    

Who’s calling the shots here anyway? Sounds like the NCAA is doing its best to cooperate with UNC.
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10-08-17 12:07 PM - Post#233583    

Preview of St. Joes, who looks primed for a much better season:

St. Joes eyes step forward after injury-plagued 2016-17

Excerpt:

"Five Hawks missed at least seven games because of injury in 2016-17. That includes key cogs such as senior guard Shavar Newkirk (19 games, torn left ACL), senior forward James Demery (10 games, stress fracture in left foot) and junior guard Lamarr “Fresh” Kimble (seven games, left foot fracture).

In addition, forward Lorenzo Edwards missed all but one game because of shoulder surgery, while forward Pierfrancesco “Checco” Oliva missed the entire season after having knee surgery.

The Hawks have healed and now return their top-six scorers from a season ago, plus four guys that played at least 14 minutes in that tournament loss to Oregon the prior season."


- - - - -

St. Joes, btw, is picked for 5th place (out of 14) by Blue Ribbon, and as high as 3rd by some predictors. For those who have forgotten, they won the A10 in 2015-16 and won a first round game in the NCAA. A number of those players are still on the roster.



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10-08-17 05:41 PM - Post#233586    

Phil Martelli is a quality guy. I met him one time at the Philadelphia airport and he was kind and gracious enough to talk hoops with me. He knew the old Bloomsburg coach Charlie Chronister and Coach Woollum well and had great things to say about both.
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10-09-17 08:30 AM - Post#233589    

  • Bison137 Said:


Just sign up for the course and then await your high grade.



I would have loved this set-up! (Though it may have been problematic due to the facet at Bucknell dealing with the natural intrinsic learning inherent in most Bucknellians)

This UNC perk is the engine behind the many workings particular to Tobacco Road and without it the rivalry as well as regional economics and social mores of that area would not exist. How else would the UNC student body mingle with the Duke student body if they were constantly preoccupied with academics? This is exactly what gives that region stability. If one wants to gain an in-depth look at American social systems, look no further than a Friday night college party halfway between Duke and UNC. These UNC classes are essential to good college basketball and good neighborly relations.
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10-09-17 11:51 AM - Post#233606    

Paulie, one of my colleagues graduated from Duke. When I showed her the article about UNC's "independent" classes, she responded, "Yeh, what did you expect?" That says it all.
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10-13-17 10:10 AM - Post#233886    

No punishment for UNC:
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media -center/n...
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10-13-17 12:41 PM - Post#233921    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:


The NCAA might possibly be the worst athletic governing body in the world . . . . . other than the Olympic Committee, FIFA, etc. (Actually, the list is LONG.) They are all money grubbing organizations that exploit people for their own benefit.
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10-13-17 01:32 PM - Post#233924    

The report says that student athletes and student non-athletes "benefited" from the non-course courses, it was not a violation. LMAO

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10-13-17 01:58 PM - Post#233927    

I thought there was a good chance they would skate. The NCAA ONLY has jurisdiction if it is a special program geared towards athletes. If it is simply a no-show course where everyone can get an undeserved A, then they have no disciplinary power over it.

I think they have become more nervous about overstepping their authority since they acted without any authority in the Penn State case. In that case, PSU initially gave the NCAA powers they didn't have under the NCAA bylaws, but when they later pushed back, the NCAA realized they might lose a court case and reduced the PSU punishment.



HuskyColonial
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10-14-17 12:31 PM - Post#233975    

Then it is important the public acknowledges them for what they are. They are no better than any program Bob Huggins coached in my opinion.
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10-14-17 02:40 PM - Post#233977    

Planning to drive to the St. Joe's game but tickets not yet on sale they any Bucknell. When I try thru St. Joe's there appear to not be many seats...and it is $53 ea for an upper level seat. That seems high for a St. Joe's game...where are other people getting their tickets?
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10-14-17 04:37 PM - Post#233981    

  • MrPhillie Said:
Planning to drive to the St. Joe's game but tickets not yet on sale they any Bucknell. When I try thru St. Joe's there appear to not be many seats...and it is $53 ea for an upper level seat. That seems high for a St. Joe's game...where are other people getting their tickets?





St. Joes has not yet put single game tickets up for sale. What you are seeing is St. Joes' official ticket scalping site (Vivid Seats) - where a few of their season ticket-holders are trying to sell their tickets to selected games at a big profit. Single game tickets, once they go on sale, will be much cheaper.



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10-14-17 06:01 PM - Post#233983    

Makes sense. I saw that Vicid was the secondary ticket source but for some reason I thought maybe tickets were already sold out...which wouldn't make sense. I will wait to get tickets.
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10-16-17 12:49 PM - Post#234047    

I see that the Maryland game (11/18) is being shown on the Big 10 Network, but the time is still TBD:

http://www.umterps.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OE...

I was all ready to drive down to College Park, meet my older son who would take the train up from DC, and go to the game, but my aunt just scheduled an extended family Thanksgiving Dinner on 11/18. I need to explain the "family events scheduling rules" to my extended family: 1. Check the Bucknell Basketball Schedule, 2. there is nothing else.
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10-16-17 03:25 PM - Post#234050    

I'm hoping it's a late afternoon our evening game so I can catch it on my way back to PA from the UNC game.
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10-19-17 10:17 AM - Post#234189    

  • Bison137 Said:



St. Joes has not yet put single game tickets up for sale. What you are seeing is St. Joes' official ticket scalping site (Vivid Seats) - where a few of their season ticket-holders are trying to sell their tickets to selected games at a big profit. Single game tickets, once they go on sale, will be much cheaper.



Ever since the renovation of Alumni Hall, St. Joe's tickets have been notoriously high-priced, as least by A10 standards. For example,I believe that upper sideline seats this year are going for $420 plus a mandatory athletic fund donation of $200. Given that this year's home schedule appears to be 13 games, that works out to be just under $48 per game. Upper baseline works out to be just over $25. As you imply, it remains to be seen what a single game ticket will be.

btw, the Hawks were picked to finish third by A10 coaches and ADs.

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10-19-17 11:14 AM - Post#234195    

FWIW, the upper sideline seats on their re-sale site are being offered for $62 per game, as opposed to the "face value" of $48. I would expect tickets for Bucknell to be less in demand - at least from St. Joes fans - than most of the A-10 games.



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10-19-17 11:24 AM - Post#234197    

Big 5 games tend to be the most in demand at all Philly schools other than Nova who draws well for all games. I wish that they would go back to playing all Big 5 games in the Palestra.
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10-19-17 02:00 PM - Post#234209    

  • Bison137 Said:
I would expect tickets for Bucknell to be less in demand - at least from St. Joes fans - than most of the A-10 games.


That's a shame for them, then, as the Bison might be better than any A10 team the Hawks will face.

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10-19-17 05:47 PM - Post#234215    

  • res Said:

btw, the Hawks were picked to finish third by A10 coaches and ADs.





You forgot to mention who was 2nd in the poll - your Bonnies. If SBU is going to have a big year, it seems like this has to be it. I think their three returning seniors - Adams, Mobley, and Taqqee - played a higher pct of total minutes than any trio in the country last year. Big falloff next year?



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10-19-17 05:52 PM - Post#234216    

Top 10 Non-Conference Schedules based on 2016-17 KenPom rank:

10 La Salle 117.818
9 Rhode Island 113.7
8 Temple 110.4
7 Bucknell 108.769
6 Alabama State 101.5
5 Alabama 100.153
4 Arkansas 96.818
3 Monmouth 96.75
2 Kentucky 83.538
1 Texas Southern 66.384


https://twitter.com/Fieldof68Freak/status /92102233...


Three Bucknell opponents in the top ten, not to mention the Bison at #7.



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10-19-17 05:56 PM - Post#234217    

Where's Navy?
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10-19-17 06:53 PM - Post#234220    

Bucknell is going to play an exhibition at Towson on 10/28 to benefit hurricane relief

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/9 211361884...
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10-19-17 06:58 PM - Post#234221    

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Bucknell is going to play an exhibition at Towson on 10/28 to benefit hurricane relief

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/9 211361884...





Should be a very interesting exhibition. Towson is picked for 2nd in the CAA, behind only Charleston, and returns almost everyone from a team that won 20 games last year.

Boston U, btw, is playing a similar charity exhibition at Vermont.



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10-19-17 08:02 PM - Post#234222    

One other comment. I am 98% sure that the game with Towson was already a scheduled closed scrimmage. Now converted to an official exhibition game with official rules, a scoreboard, and spectators. As many of you know, the NCAA recently changed its rules for at least this year to allow a team to play an extra exhibition game and to allow one exhibition game between two D1 teams - something that previously was not allowed. Has to be a charity event.



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10-19-17 08:32 PM - Post#234224    

I wonder if there will be a webcast of the exhibition game.
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10-21-17 11:50 AM - Post#234302    

Towson exhibition is at 1:00 pm

per Goodman tweet we have two other 'secret' scrimmages, Mt, St. Mary's 10/22 and Penn 11/4, both at Sojka.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/92 17...
HuskyColonial
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10-21-17 09:47 PM - Post#234319    

So we scrimmaged The Mount today? What’s the story?
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10-21-17 11:47 PM - Post#234322    

  • HuskyColonial Said:
So we scrimmaged The Mount today? What’s the story?




Tomorrow 10/22. I think that is a 3rd scrimmage that only got scheduled in the last few days. I believe the original two scrimmages were Towson next weekend and Penn the following weekend. With the new NCAA edict about playing a 3rd exhibition for charity, they were able to schedule another team.



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10-23-17 01:08 PM - Post#234396    

Arguably North Carolina's best player, PG Joel Berry, is going to miss 4 weeks with a broken hand according to Jon Rothstein.

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/9 224978690...

The Bucknell game vs UNC is just over 3 weeks away so I'm assuming he'll miss that game.


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10-25-17 11:42 AM - Post#234531    

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Arguably North Carolina's best player, PG Joel Berry, is going to miss 4 weeks with a broken hand according to Jon Rothstein.

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/9 224978690...

The Bucknell game vs UNC is just over 3 weeks away so I'm assuming he'll miss that game.




Non-basketball related injury...

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/92 320989078...
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11-05-17 05:09 PM - Post#235476    

Strange that Maryland tip time is still TBD less than two weeks away. I guess they're awaiting direction from Big 10 Network.
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11-05-17 07:10 PM - Post#235481    

Games at 7 I thought I saw
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11-05-17 10:28 PM - Post#235484    

  • Old Bison Said:
Game's at 7, I thought I saw

Game time "TBA" on both Maryland and Bucknell websites.

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11-05-17 10:40 PM - Post#235485    

The bucknell ticket office has the game being at 7:00, not sure if it's accurate.
Old Bison
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11-06-17 08:40 AM - Post#235486    

That’s where I saw it so was under impression it was now resolved. Just tried to Google BTN and get info but couldn’t find. Was assuming 7 now
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11-06-17 08:51 AM - Post#235487    

BTN has not set yet...so in that respect ticket office is premature
Old Bison
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11-06-17 08:55 AM - Post#235488    

BTN doesn’t know their football schedule yet is the issue
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11-06-17 08:57 AM - Post#235489    

Good bet it’s a weird time like 12 or 4
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11-06-17 09:37 AM - Post#235490    

  • Old Bison Said:
BTN doesn’t know their football schedule yet is the issue



OB is correct. national football television schedule (tbd) impacts B10 football scheduling which then determines the basketball schedule. as always at this level, money drives the decisions.
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11-06-17 02:20 PM - Post#235527    

Maryland announced the tip time is at 8:30 and the game will be on the big ten network.
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11-06-17 05:32 PM - Post#235541    

Uuuugh followed by Yuck
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11-06-17 06:50 PM - Post#235555    

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Maryland announced the tip time is at 8:30 and the game will be on the big ten network.



I was hoping for a noon or 1pm start. There is no way that I can make it due to a prior evening commitment. DVR is the only way that I will be able to watch it.
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11-06-17 06:56 PM - Post#235556    

I just noticed that the Arkansas game is on the SEC Network 6pm-8pm on 11/12. In South Jersey, it is channel 864.

Mrs. Bison89 is not going to be happy about the Friday game at Monmouth and Sunday game during dinner . . .

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12-28-17 12:51 AM - Post#241425    

  • Bison137 Said:
Top 10 Non-Conference Schedules based on 2016-17 KenPom rank:

10 La Salle 117.818
9 Rhode Island 113.7
8 Temple 110.4
7 Bucknell 108.769
6 Alabama State 101.5
5 Alabama 100.153
4 Arkansas 96.818
3 Monmouth 96.75
2 Kentucky 83.538
1 Texas Southern 66.384


https://twitter.com/Fieldof68Freak/status /92102233...


Three Bucknell opponents in the top ten, not to mention the Bison at #7.




The Bison OOC schedule now ranks #6 in the nation (after adjusting for teams with D2/D3 opponents). Top six are:

1 Texas Southern
2 Savannah State
3 Prairie View
4 Temple
5 Monmouth
6 Bucknell

Current rankings of Bison OOC opponents:

142 Monmouth
22 Arkansas
8 North Carolina
33 Maryland
263 Siena
116 Ball St.
172 Stony Brook
115 Saint Joseph's
75 Vermont
138 Northeastern
93 VCU
231 Richmond
141 La Salle

I expect Monmouth, Siena, St. Joes, Richmond, and maybe VCU to move up.






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