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besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
06-21-17 10:18 PM - Post#230278    

Was waiting for an offer before starting this and it looks like one was given yesterday.

JerseyShoreWarriors‏
University of Pennsylvania offers Jack Forrest

Obviously the rest of this stuff is preliminary contact to players and should be taken with the grainiest grains of salt:

CP25 2019 (Florida)‏
6'5 CG DJ Henderson is receiving interest from Penn

Dinos Trigonis
2019 nat'l sleeper 6-4 G Robert McRae (Fairfax/LA CA) has heard from Wash St, UCSB, Pepperdine, Penn, Montana, San Jose St., UCSB & Denver

Beach City Hoops
2019 SF Jaime Jaquez heard from Memphis (Offered), Gonzaga, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Yale, SMU, Penn, UNLV among others yesterday.

Team Rio National‏
Jalen Gaffney PG (2019) Florida,UConn,Drexel,Rich mond,Stanford,StJohns,StJ oe,Penn,Neastern, Stonybrook,Tulane,E.Ky,Colgate, Hofstra as☎️open

ARosenfeldDVHR
2019 big man Jon Bol Ajak (@TeamFinalHoops /Church Farm) tells me he's heard from UConn, St. Joe's, and Penn today

ARosenfeldDVHR
2019 PG Judah Jordan (Team Melo/Capitol Christian) tells me he's heard from Maryland, GMU, St Joes, Penn, ODU, Yale, and Holy Cross today

Luc Smith
6'9 2019 Max Lorca has heard from UCONN, Ohio State, Stanford, Georgia Tech, BC, Rice, George Washington, Yale, Penn, Columbia, & USF.

Expressions ❌EYBL
2019 6"6 G Preston Santos heard from West Virginia, Umass, Penn & Delaware today.

Luc Smith‏
Wilbraham & Monson Academy & New Height's 6'4 2019 G Idan Tretout has heard from UMass, Penn, GW, Rice, Yale, Brown, Holy Cross & Hartford.

Josh Verlin
Haverford School (Pa.) 2019 F Christian Ray's contact list: Yale, Mt. St. Mary's, 'Gate, Elon, Holy Cross, Columbia, Penn, Laf., St. Joe's

Robert Rogers‏
Wofford, Rice, UPenn, Davidson contacted 2019 6'5" SG Colby Rogers of Newton

Pat Lawless‏
'19 PG Noah Kamba of WrightWay Skills heard from Providence, UNLV, UMass, Northeastern, UPenn, Holy Cross, Notre Dame, Brown & Davidson.

Coach Ceasar‏
Ben Eke '19 has heard from Yale, Holy Cross, and UPenn today.
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
06-24-17 08:46 AM - Post#230337    

According to COBL, Peter Sorber has received interest from Penn

(near bottom of article)
http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
06-27-17 07:50 PM - Post#230405    

From Sunday:

Pat Lawless‏
Xander Alvarado, a class of 2019 guard playing for the NY Rens, went on an unofficial visit to UPenn today.
rbg
PhD Student
Posts 1054
07-03-17 08:37 AM - Post#230521    

Lucas Monroe of Abington has gotten offers from Colgate and La Salle. He says that Penn and Princeton have given him a good deal of attention, while Yale has shown some interest.

http://www.scout.com/college/villanova/sto ry/17886...
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
07-15-17 11:07 AM - Post#230933    

According to COBL, Christian Ings is recieving interest from Penn

http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
07-23-17 12:39 PM - Post#231188    

Per COBL, Xander Rice has interest from Penn


http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
08-10-17 07:06 PM - Post#231829    

EJ Jarvis
@j4rv15_

Happy to say that I have received my fifth offer from UPenn!
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
08-22-17 03:05 PM - Post#232302    

Pat Lawless‏
@PatLawless_

Jonah Charles, a class of 2019 wing from Rutgers Prep (NJ), has picked up an offer from UPenn.
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
09-14-17 02:14 PM - Post#232842    

While at Pacifica Christian, Penn made an offer:

Verbal Commits‏
2019 Pacifica Christian Orange County (CA) F Solomon Davis has received an offer from Penn.
Penndemonium
Masters Student
Posts 832
09-14-17 05:32 PM - Post#232845    

Davis's video looked promising. He seemed to find open spaces and make good cuts to the basket. A team can always use a player in motion without the ball.
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
10-22-17 01:14 PM - Post#234333    

Looks like Max Martz visited Penn this weekend.
Streamers
Postdoc
Posts 2949
Streamers
10-22-17 01:53 PM - Post#234334    

Pretty sure this was the kid I saw shooting 3’s at the Palestra right after the scrimmage ended. Fun fact - comes from the same HS as Scott Kegler.
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Masters Student
Posts 858
10-23-17 08:47 AM - Post#234368    

  • besnoah Said:
Looks like Max Martz visited Penn this weekend.


Has he got the smarts?
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
10-29-17 11:15 AM - Post#234930    

From Friday:

Jake Weingarten
2019 Chase Drew of Team Thrill UAA will take an unofficial to UPenn this weekend, per source.
91Quake
Masters Student
Posts 668
11-04-17 04:40 PM - Post#235465    

According to Corey Evans, Penn is hosting 2019 G Jake Betlow today.
91Quake
Masters Student
Posts 668
12-29-17 09:21 AM - Post#241512    

NMH tweeted that Penn offered Max Lorca Lloyd when he visited campus the other day and watched the Del State game.

He has a bunch of high major offers already and H offered the next day (per adam finkelstein).
yoyo
Junior
Posts 215
12-29-17 09:34 AM - Post#241514    

AJ go recruit that kid to Penn
nychoops
Sophomore
Posts 105
12-29-17 11:29 AM - Post#241526    

I know Max VERY well....he is a terrific talent and a great kid
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 8616
12-29-17 11:53 AM - Post#241530    

Do we have any shot?
mrjames
Professor
Posts 5327
12-29-17 11:58 AM - Post#241531    

Haven’t gotten myself overly educated on specific players in the 2019 class yet, but from what I’ve observed following Noah at NMH, Max is playing like a high major player. Given Harvard’s needs for the 2019 class, I’d expect the Crimson to be heavily involved as likely will other Ivies. Will be interesting to see where things shake out following the spring and summer travel seasons.
PennFan10
PhD Student
Posts 1999
12-29-17 11:59 AM - Post#241533    

  • nychoops Said:
I know Max VERY well....he is a terrific talent and a great kid



Get him to come to Penn then! Come on...

penn nation
Professor
Posts 12072
12-29-17 12:02 PM - Post#241534    

  • PennFan10 Said:
  • nychoops Said:
I know Max VERY well....he is a terrific talent and a great kid



Get him to come to Penn then! Come on...




Unless nychoops has 200K to spare, that might not be possible...

mrjames
Professor
Posts 5327
12-29-17 01:02 PM - Post#241537    

If that read is true, then, well, there's your answer... The Ivy hit rate on recruits that can generate high major interest and also need significant FA is, umm, well, ya know... not good.


besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
12-29-17 10:49 PM - Post#241606    

Probably not the right time to mention that Max Martz (who Penn watched before their game against Dayton) was hosted by Ohio State for their game against Clemson.
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
01-28-18 09:51 PM - Post#245048    

Consensus 4*/Top 100 with a bunch of HM offers

Samad H.‏
@CoachHines28
2019 SG Charles Smith of McEachern (GA) has received offers from Vanderbilt and Penn
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
02-14-18 01:36 PM - Post#247859    

Josh Verlin‏
Penn assistant Joe Mihalich Jr. here for Lower Merion junior Jack Forrest. Quakers have been all over the Aces’ junior wing.
SteveChop
Masters Student
Posts 724
02-14-18 05:12 PM - Post#247874    

He was at the Palestra for one of the Saturday Big Five games a few weeks ago. St. Joes I think
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
04-05-18 10:33 AM - Post#254826    

The Athletic reported that Penn reached out to DePaul transfer Brandon Cyrus.
Penndemonium
Masters Student
Posts 832
04-05-18 10:56 AM - Post#254827    


Wow. This looks like a no-brainer. All-academic Big East guy majoring in Finance. Welcome to the team!

Love the idea of a 6-5 PG.

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/mt...



Penndemonium
Masters Student
Posts 832
04-05-18 11:03 AM - Post#254828    

Oh wait. Not so fast. There's some meaningful competition.

https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-state-basketball...

T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Masters Student
Posts 858
04-05-18 11:17 AM - Post#254830    

Canadian kid. Wonder if Donahue had been recruiting him while Cyrus was still in high school.
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Masters Student
Posts 858
04-05-18 11:18 AM - Post#254831    

  • Penndemonium Said:
Oh wait. Not so fast. There's some meaningful competition.

https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-state-basketball...




LSU too. https://www.tigerdroppings.com/lsu-basketball/repo...
Penndemonium
Masters Student
Posts 832
04-05-18 05:55 PM - Post#254853    

I guess this one will depend on whether his higher priority is a platinum finance degree or major conference basketball.
AsiaSunset
Postdoc
Posts 3906
04-06-18 07:20 AM - Post#254860    

Long shot I think. We made an attempt to recruit him out of hs, obviously without success.

Also - don't see some of the other names mentioned as possible late signees or transfers showing visible interest in Penn. Now maybe stuff is happening behind the scenes, although I doubt it.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 20063
04-06-18 07:30 AM - Post#254863    

That's disappointing. Anyone looking at what Caleb Wood did here would see an opportunity for a shooter.
AsiaSunset
Postdoc
Posts 3906
04-06-18 08:33 AM - Post#254864    

Well the women got yet another 2019 commitment - Mandy McGurk - a 5'7" pg from Notre Dame (the local one outside of Philly).
PennFan10
PhD Student
Posts 1999
04-06-18 09:58 AM - Post#254865    

We have a shot at another player in the 2019 class. Not a long shot, but also not a sure thing.
Jeff2sf
Postdoc
Posts 3834
04-06-18 10:45 AM - Post#254866    

your phrasing confuses me a little PF. Do you mean:

1. We have one possible recruit for 2019 (two septembers from now) and then we're done recruiting for then?

2. We have one possible transfer recruit who wouldn't be allowed to play until September 2019 because of traditional transfer rules?

3. We have one possible recruit for 2018 who would obviously be a late edition but could play this September?
PennFan10
PhD Student
Posts 1999
04-06-18 11:06 AM - Post#254867    

Poor word choice. Number 3 is what I meant.
Jeff2sf
Postdoc
Posts 3834
04-06-18 11:15 AM - Post#254868    

okie dokie. was kinda hoping it was option 2, but we'll see.
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2445
04-06-18 02:08 PM - Post#254880    

Jeff why does the basketball season start in September
Jeff2sf
Postdoc
Posts 3834
04-06-18 02:15 PM - Post#254881    

I dunno, baseball starts in March now.

yeah, i'll cop to my own poor choice of words. I was thinking mostly when classes start, not when the season starts. but I guess that's August now anyway.
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
04-07-18 01:05 PM - Post#254901    

CJ Moore
Former OU guard Jordan Shepherd tells @TheAthleticCBB he's been contacted by Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Wake Forest, UNCC, SFA, College of Charleston, St. John's, San Diego and Penn.
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2445
04-14-18 04:11 PM - Post#255305    

here's some actual august info: per vc penn has offered august mahoney, pg from albany. mm offers with the exception of illinois, which is functionally an mm.

http://verbalcommits.com/players/august-mahone y
Penndemonium
Masters Student
Posts 832
04-19-18 01:00 AM - Post#255526    

It's good to see Penn in the mix with a number of high level transfers. It's easier to imagine a transfer making an immediate impact, although the program will eventually need to sustain on it's own Freshman recruits.

The only downside is that the team chemistry was so good this year - and transfers tend to upset the existing existing players who lose PT more than Freshmen. I'll give this team and Donahue the benefit of the doubt in making it work, however.
UPIA1968
Masters Student
Posts 742
UPIA1968
04-19-18 07:48 PM - Post#255574    

Keep in mind that this year's very valuable sixth man was a two-year transfer. I'll take to years of that kind of play.
91Quake
Masters Student
Posts 668
04-21-18 11:44 AM - Post#255628    

From Cityofbasketballlove.com:

JB Hoops opened its April live periods with a four-point overtime win against Alvin Gentry Elite (Az.) in a 17U showcase game, riding the hot hand of Leo O’Boyle. The Scranton Prep junior accounted for 29 of his team’s 62 points in the victory, showcasing a versatile scoring ability from all over the floor. A 6-foot-6, 215-pound wing forward, O’Boyle knocked down three 3-pointers along the way but got most of his production within 15 feet, hitting several contested pull-up jumpers and driving layups with both hands through contact.

“It’s really going to build up my confidence, now knowing that I’m shooting pretty well, driving pretty well and all of that,” he said afterwards. “So hopefully I can keep it going.”

O’Boyle has picked up one Division I offer in high school tenure, from NJIT as a sophomore, but he said he’s no longer being recruited by that school’s staff. Instead, it’s now Ivy/Patriot types who are reaching out to a student-athlete with a 3.7 GPA; O’Boyle named Colgate, Holy Cross, Dartmouth, and Penn as four in particular that had been in touch of late. Penn head coach Steve Donahue, who brought O’Boyle down to an elite camp last summer was watching this outing from the baseline.

besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
04-21-18 11:52 AM - Post#255629    

Josh also tweeted Donahue was present for

Max Martz:

Josh Verlin
@jmverlin
Final game of the night: Nova Russell (Ohio) vs. NJ Playaz Grey. Nova features 2019 Penn commit Max Martz. Quakers coach Steve Donahue here watching.

and Jersey Shore Warriors (I'd guess for Jack Forrest)

Josh Verlin
@jmverlin
Jersey Shore Warriors 17s drawing a big crowd as usual, including Penn head coach Steve Donahue. HGSL showcase game against WrightWay Skills (Mass.)
AsiaSunset
Postdoc
Posts 3906
04-22-18 07:32 AM - Post#255638    

Twitter says Max put up 28 in that game
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
04-22-18 09:33 PM - Post#255655    

And Twitter says Martz scored 32 in a 3rd round loss today.
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
04-25-18 03:28 PM - Post#255876    

Charles Smith IV commits to Cal

https://twitter.com/C4_is_explosive/statu s/9889076...
Jay O
Masters Student
Posts 534
04-25-18 08:16 PM - Post#255890    

I wonder how many people are named Charles Smith IV. I bet there are enough for a basketball roster, but probably not enough for football. I want to be there when they argue over who gets to wear number 4.
weinhauers_ghost
PhD Student
Posts 1117
04-25-18 09:49 PM - Post#255897    

  • Jay O Said:
I wonder how many people are named Charles Smith IV. I bet there are enough for a basketball roster, but probably not enough for football. I want to be there when they argue over who gets to wear number 4.



Assign the longest tenured player #4, offer the next player to show up #44. If a third shows up, offer him #22. If you're lucky enough to add a fourth to your roster, offer him #8. The fifth? Assign him #16.

Beyond that, I have no more suggestions.
Jay O
Masters Student
Posts 534
04-26-18 06:17 AM - Post#255903    

Makes sense. That last guy is a real square.
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
04-30-18 03:24 PM - Post#256139    

Per COBL, Owen McGlashan is hearing from Penn.
Article also has a section on Max Martz

https://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/...
Quakers03
Professor
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04-30-18 11:12 PM - Post#256166    

I didn't realize he was the son of a former player. The news on him just keeps getting better and better.
pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts 2445
05-09-18 12:26 PM - Post#256588    

scratch one off

Former Minnesota G Jamir Harris is transferring to American. (HT @AdamZagoria) @Jtodaizzo http://verbalcommits.com/players/jamir-harris
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
06-10-18 02:56 PM - Post#257762    

Pat Lawless
Jordan Dingle, a class of 2019 SG playing for the NY Lightning, just picked up an offer from UPenn. First reported by @Andrew__Slater.
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
06-12-18 10:13 PM - Post#257856    

From yesterday:

Pat Lawless
UPenn, Harvard, Vanderbilt, UAB, Georgetown, Marquette, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest are watching '19 Maxwell Lorca-Lloyd (Chile) compete in the FIBA Americas U18 Championship.

I'm sure folks other than me have better insight here.
weinhauers_ghost
PhD Student
Posts 1117
06-13-18 05:22 AM - Post#257857    

Per the FIBA website, Lorca-Lloyd is 6'7" and attends Northfield Mount Hermon.
91Quake
Masters Student
Posts 668
06-13-18 06:58 AM - Post#257865    

He is visiting H and Stanford soon. He has already been to visit Penn though.
Jay O
Masters Student
Posts 534
06-15-18 10:13 PM - Post#257920    

  • weinhauers_ghost Said:
Per the FIBA website, Lorca-Lloyd is 6'7" and attends Northfield Mount Hermon.



Ha, of course he does. We should probably just assume NMH unless otherwise indicated.
Silver Maple
Postdoc
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06-15-18 10:35 PM - Post#257921    

I was under the impression he was more like 6'10".

Whatever-- he's a 4-star recruit. We should temper our expectations.
20Penn14
Junior
Posts 286
07-01-18 03:11 PM - Post#258385    

Ben Sheppard
@shepben2
Recieved my second offer from the University of Pennsylvania! #uPenn

Looks like a 6-5 guard from Atlanta
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 631
08-22-18 11:17 PM - Post#260626    

Max Lorca-Lloyd is making an official visit to Penn this weekend, per Rivals:

https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/ 103244337...
pennhoops
Postdoc
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08-23-18 10:33 AM - Post#260635    

Back to the golden age of losing big recruit after big recruit to Vandy.
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Masters Student
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08-23-18 12:07 PM - Post#260640    

  • pennhoops Said:
Back to the golden age of losing big recruit after big recruit to Vandy.


Were we after Barry Goheen?
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 8616
08-23-18 12:34 PM - Post#260644    

  • pennhoops Said:
Back to the golden age of losing big recruit after big recruit to Vandy.


If they decide to come home after freshman year, we'll sure take it. Anyone know what Matt is up to nowadays? Living off of that Rockets contract?
pennhoops
Postdoc
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08-23-18 05:18 PM - Post#260651    

I believe he's the head basketball coach at Oak Park High School outside Chicago.
Old Bear
Postdoc
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08-23-18 06:09 PM - Post#260653    

Really? My Alma Mater (or one them).
pennhoops
Postdoc
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08-23-18 06:26 PM - Post#260654    

either it's him or someone who shares the name.

http://il.8to18.com/oprf/staff
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Masters Student
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08-23-18 07:12 PM - Post#260657    

  • pennhoops Said:
either it's him or someone who shares the name.

http://il.8to18.com/oprf/staff


Judging by this photo I suspect it's a different guy.

http://www.oprfhs.org/campusuite25/modules/ faculty...

TheLine
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08-23-18 08:14 PM - Post#260658    

http://www.fox26houston.com/sports/former-rocket- m...

besnoah
Masters Student
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09-11-18 09:29 PM - Post#261123    

Obviously huge grain of salt on the second half of this tweet, but all 6 people predicting Max Lorca-Lloyd's college selection on 24/7 are predicting Penn and have made that prediction within the past week:

Leader Johnson
Penn is is a heavy favorite to land 2019 4-star PF Maxwell Lorca-Lloyd. Penn has turned to the second best team in the Big 5. You have to respect them as threats to Villanova.

https://twitter.com/WriterLeader247/statu s/1037846...

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Max well-Lo...
PennFan10
PhD Student
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09-12-18 12:07 AM - Post#261124    

I think Penn has a strong chance to land Max 2.0

I have heard Penn is one of 2 and probably the leading choice. Should hear something official soon.
TheLine
Postdoc
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09-12-18 06:44 AM - Post#261127    

Good to hear. Wang + Lorca-Lloyd could be a nice frontcourt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1H9OmTs7f4

Silver Maple
Postdoc
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09-12-18 08:36 AM - Post#261134    

Everybody relax. It's not in the bag until it's in the bag.
nychoops
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09-12-18 08:59 AM - Post#261135    

Seen Max play quite a bit....hes a very interesting talent ...VERY similar game to Harrison Schaen..in no way saying that their college career or passion for the game are the same
TheLine
Postdoc
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09-12-18 09:16 AM - Post#261136    

Thanks for dumping cold water on this. Want to keep it in perspective. Don't want to get too optimistic.

10Q
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09-12-18 09:18 AM - Post#261137    

A 4 star? Penn is in the running for a 4 star? When did we last get a 4 star?
Jeff2sf
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09-12-18 09:23 AM - Post#261138    

fwiw, verbal commits doesn't have him as a 4* in any of the rankings.

the offer list would seemingly put him in a different class than most of our recruits though.
TheLine
Postdoc
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09-12-18 09:30 AM - Post#261141    

Rivals has him as 4* though that doesn't appear on VC for some reason. ESPN has him as 3*.

Not that it matters. And certainly would prefer him to be a 2* right now.

Silver Maple
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09-12-18 09:44 AM - Post#261143    

I get the impression that he's more of a 2.5-3 star prospect.

My big question is, when did Penn become the second best team in the Big 5?
10Q
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09-12-18 09:47 AM - Post#261145    

We're not. We would be lucky to be considered the third best.
AsiaSunset
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09-12-18 09:56 AM - Post#261146    

Would not fret too much about rankings as an ESPN 79 is the top of the 3* range. Michael Wang had the same number. If you get an 80 rating you're a 4**** but at the bottom of the 4**** range.

VC has him as a composite 2.5, but since the VC composite is supposed to be a composite of Rivals (4****) and ESPN (3***) and Scout (not rated) the VC composite number is virtually meaningless.
TheLine
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09-12-18 09:59 AM - Post#261147    

I trust insight from Mike James and nychoops more than a Rivals/Scout/ESPN composite.


besnoah
Masters Student
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09-12-18 11:06 AM - Post#261151    

My limited view is that his offer list (and the offers he got over this summer) makes him seem pretty impressive, even if he needs serious development.
Silver Maple
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09-12-18 11:08 AM - Post#261152    

Have you read anything that suggests that he's a project? My experience is that players who are described as 'projects' almost never amount to anything.
TheLine
Postdoc
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09-12-18 11:27 AM - Post#261153    

There's obviously a lot of parsing when reading anything online, but I wouldn't consider Lorca-Lloyd a 'big guy project', especially at our level. Don't think he's necessarily being viewed as ready two-way player day 1 as Brodeur was, or even Wang may be - but he is at NMH, which plays a highly competitive schedule. Sounds like his defense is ahead of his offense, which is OK.

mrjames
Professor
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09-12-18 01:33 PM - Post#261159    

Very much appreciated, but I may not be of much help this season - at least with up-to-date info. Totally agree that nychoops can be helpful here, and I'd also highly recommend regional sites over the national ones, except for those Top 100/150 kids. NERR, for instance, does a fantastic job overall and does especially well with kids that have been in New England for multiple years. Max is No. 6 there, which would edge Zena as the highest ever in those rankings to go Ivy. Typically almost all of the Top 10 goes high major and most of the 11-20 folks will have that option as well.

The list of Top 20 recruits in NERR to go Ivy over the past decade isn't all that long: Idan Tretout (2019), Noah Kirkwood (2018), Ethan Wright (2018), AJ, Corey Johnson, Makai Mason, Zena, Kyle Casey.
Jeff2sf
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09-12-18 02:24 PM - Post#261164    

burnout (bored with ivies, ncaas), family, or job?
palestra38
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09-12-18 02:32 PM - Post#261165    

From Mike's post on the Ivy League Board:

Now to return to my comment about my hiatus from the top. My wife and I are about to have our third child, which is incredibly exciting. Between #dayjob and #dadlife, something has to give. Covering the league the way I'd want to cover it (checking in with folks around the league, watching a bunch of games from across the league, booting up the code), just doesn't seem like it will be possible - at least in the short run. So I'm going to power down the Twitter feed and my active participation on these boards for this season. I'll still be checking in from time to time, and I hope to get back to covering the league in the future. But I need to be realistic about my time, and this seems like it has to be on my cut list.

I'll still be watching, and if we can survive the usual devastation in October and November, it could be a HUGE year for our league!

-Mike
Jeff2sf
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09-12-18 02:59 PM - Post#261166    

thanks. i can't believe i missed that page/post. good luck with the kid. I have 4 and anybody that's not playing zone defense with kids has it easy*.







* - i wanted to leave it intentionally inflammatory but my old age will point out that those who have special needs kids obviously have it way harder.
penn nation
Professor
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09-12-18 04:44 PM - Post#261168    

My first two were twins so I never knew what it was like to "just" have a singleton.
Penndemonium
Masters Student
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09-12-18 06:13 PM - Post#261176    

There are articles that say he has only played basketball for 5 years.

From his video:
- He looked like he could be a great shot blocker.
- He is described as a great rebounder on both ends, although it wasn't obvious on his highlight video. I couldn't tell if he used his positioning and had a continuous motor.
- He had some good moves, although his shot and dribble look a bit funny.
- Very interesting combination of height and athleticism.
- He would be a great get for us!


  • Silver Maple Said:
Have you read anything that suggests that he's a project? My experience is that players who are described as 'projects' almost never amount to anything.


Penndemonium
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09-12-18 11:44 PM - Post#261182    

I believe AJ Brodeur was the only one in a very long time.

  • 10Q Said:
A 4 star? Penn is in the running for a 4 star? When did we last get a 4 star?



Silver Maple
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09-13-18 08:33 AM - Post#261188    

I thought Brodeur was pretty universally rated at 3 stars. Were there any recruiting sources rating him at 4?

Not that any of this really matters. Perhaps we should be having a conversation on accuracy vs. precision.
TheLine
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09-13-18 10:26 AM - Post#261195    

Think you're right about that. Also rankings from the recruiting sites are not the end-all. They aren't as invested in it as the coaches are, especially at the level of recruit we're talking about.

Bruner was a somewhat higher ranked recruit than Brodeur. Who you want now? Sure, the answer could be different if Bruner was healthy but it's unclear healthy Bruner is a thing.

Comparing Brodeur and Lorca-Lloyd - Brodeur had more polish, an unquestioned motor, and was athletic enough. Lorca-Lloyd is more raw relatively speaking but can play, has better athleticism, and a body that many think will fill out well. If Lorca-Lloyd had Brodeur's polish then he'd probably be a good high major recruit.

91Quake
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09-13-18 02:30 PM - Post#261221    

Jordan Dingle visited Penn last weekend. Shooting guard from LI who is playing at Blair Academy. BU trip this weekend then St. Louis and Dartmouth also contenders. A good list of mid major offers overall.
Penndemonium
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09-14-18 03:24 AM - Post#261252    

  • Silver Maple Said:
I thought Brodeur was pretty universally rated at 3 stars. Were there any recruiting sources rating him at 4?

Not that any of this really matters. Perhaps we should be having a conversation on accuracy vs. precision.



Perhaps he was one of those players downgraded when he committed to Penn?
TheLine
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09-14-18 06:54 AM - Post#261255    

  • 91Quake Said:
Jordan Dingle visited Penn last weekend. Shooting guard from LI who is playing at Blair Academy. BU trip this weekend then St. Louis and Dartmouth also contenders. A good list of mid major offers overall.


With 5 wings already coming in over the next 2 years, is the interest in Dingle because he is considered better? Because he could potentially run the point better than the others who have already committed?

pennhoops
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09-14-18 09:25 AM - Post#261266    

  • nychoops Said:
Seen Max play quite a bit....hes a very interesting talent ...VERY similar game to Harrison Schaen..in no way saying that their college career or passion for the game are the same



Good lord I don't think I've ever seen anyone with that kind of talent who cared less about his sport than Schaen
10Q
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09-14-18 09:33 AM - Post#261267    

How about Devante Parker?

Jeff2sf
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09-14-18 09:54 AM - Post#261268    

aw, dude, no.
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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09-14-18 10:14 AM - Post#261270    

Is this the point at which Yale swoops in and grabs Lorca-Lloyd? Or do they wait for late winter?
TheLine
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09-14-18 12:28 PM - Post#261274    

Man, I don't know why anyone in his right mind would prefer to be coached by Jones over Donahue.

T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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09-14-18 12:32 PM - Post#261275    

Paging Matthue Cotton.
TheLine
Postdoc
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09-14-18 12:41 PM - Post#261278    

We sucked then. And Jones is convincing. And it's Yale. But signing up does require you to play for Jones.

Donahue is a much better coach.

The only way Jones is capable of winning anything is when he has the most dominant team in the league. It happened when he had Sears-Sherrod-Mason during a down year for Harvard. Hard to replicate because it's not likely Harvard will have another season like that and we're back from the dead.
sparman
Masters Student
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sparman
09-14-18 02:10 PM - Post#261284    

A reminder of one of the great lines in Ivy Basketball U history:

http://boards.basketball-u.com/showpost.php?post/2...

penn nation
Professor
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09-14-18 02:25 PM - Post#261285    

Thank you for reminding us that ice cream trucks should not be the sole province of good humor.


TheLine
Postdoc
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09-14-18 02:49 PM - Post#261287    

Can't beat that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lAY-rRRa4o

SomeGuy
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09-14-18 08:38 PM - Post#261297    

I think we’ve had this argument before, but I think Jones is a fine coach. I think Donahue, Amaker, Jones, and Henderson are all great. The consistency of Jones’ record speaks for itself. I suppose it also speaks some to his limitations, but, following a history of futility prior to Jones, I would take 20 straight years of top 4 finishes.


Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
10-01-18 12:28 AM - Post#261729    

First off, we should mention in this thread that MLL did pick PENN!

Second, Josh from COBL highlighted Lucas Monroe as one of his standouts from Saturday’s game: https://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/...

Lucas Monroe (2019/Abington, Pa.)
Now that Robbie Heath has graduated from Abington, Monroe will take over at the point. He’s got a few inches on Heath, but didn’t look too out of place on Saturday bringing the ball up and facilitating the offense. The 6-5 Penn commit looked comfortable with the ball in his hands and setting up teammates for open looks. He even got the chance to get an exciting alley-oop in his second game which electrified the bench.

6’5” with point guard skills and athleticism to be on the end of an alley-oop. Gotta like that!

TheLine
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10-01-18 07:40 AM - Post#261733    

Lucas Monroe is interesting - he could conceivably slot in any of 4 positions. Kind of like an under the radar Noah Kirkwood.

There are a few full length Abington games on youtube. I can provide links if anyone wants. They aren't hard to find. Just a warning for the uninitiated - unlike highlight reels, you'll see both good and not so good, don't freak out about the latter.

My feeling is that this is a really good recruiting class. The players are skilled, athletic, and fit Donahue's mold for the team.

91Quake
Masters Student
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10-20-18 10:03 AM - Post#263103    

From Pat Lawless:

Here at @TheHoopGroup Fall High School Showcase. Great matchup to start the day with Roman Catholic taking on Rutgers Prep. Penn State commit Seth Lundy & UPenn commit Jonah Charles are both standing out.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
10-20-18 01:25 PM - Post#263115    

@NJSureshotBoys

‘19 6’3” Jonah Charles was spectacular in his teams double OT thriller vs. National Power @RomanBasketball ,he finished with 24 pts, 7 assts, & 6 rebs. Great showing for the @PennBasketball commit in his team’s 1st game of the @TheHoopGroup Fall HS Showcase. #ShoreShotsBasketball
rbg
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11-09-18 08:36 AM - Post#264932    

ESPNW has a profile on recent Fall '19 commit Silke Milliman of Northfield Mount Hermon, the #72 prospect on their HoopGurlz Top 100.

The article also profiles Princeton commit, Ellie Mitchell.

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/ 25207179/...

http://www.espn.com/high-school/girls-bas ketball/r...

besnoah
Masters Student
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11-11-18 12:05 PM - Post#265216    

Short Jonah Charles highlight package:

https://twitter.com/NJShoreshotBoys/statu s/1061131...
91Quake
Masters Student
Posts 668
11-11-18 02:20 PM - Post#265225    

From Pat Lawless on the twitter machine:

Both UPenn commits Jonah Charles & Lucas Monroe have looked good. Charles has shot the lights out & Monroe has been great on his drives to the rim.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
11-26-18 12:16 AM - Post#267009    

Just saw that Jordan Dingle played well in a close Blair loss in National Prep Showcase. He scored 30 points on 13 of 18 shooting and 4 of 7 from 3. Blair lost 85-86 against Tilton School, but hell of a scoring effort.
penn nation
Professor
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11-26-18 06:56 AM - Post#267017    

Any word on how next year’s recruits shoot from the charity stripe?
nychoops
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11-26-18 10:38 AM - Post#267034    

As I mentioned before I believe Jordan will be an immediate impact player and has unlimited potential. I will be stunned if hes not a star at Penn
Penndemonium
Masters Student
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11-26-18 02:28 PM - Post#267093    

NYCHoops, I sort of lost track on all of our recruiting stories. Too many to remember (for a healthy change). Dingle's video looked great. I don't think we've had a PG recruit with his physical presence before. Any story on why he wasn't more heavily recruited, yet seems to have star potential?

Your cred is very good here, so I'm not in any way doubting. Just wondering about his story and how he might have been overlooked.

That kid is ripped.




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