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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-18-17 05:35 PM - Post#231012
It is hard to believe, but CSM is already counting down the Top 144: 144. Georgia 143. Norfolk State 142. Illinois State 141. Texas Southern 140. Jacksonville State 139. Georgia State 138. Mt. St. Mary's 137. Samford 136. Washington 135. Lamar 134. Northern Iowa 133. Hofstra 132. Fort Wayne 131. Utah Valley 130. Troy 129. Old Dominion 128. UC Davis 127. South Dakota State 126. Manhattan 125. La Salle 124. Idaho 123. Kent State 122. Illinois 121. San Francisco 120. Missouri State 119. Memphis 118. Albany 117. Boise State 116. New Mexico State 115. Elon http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... Where will the Bison rank? Personally, I am predicting 82 even though I think that they should really be around 55-65.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
07-18-17 06:06 PM - Post#231016
I think they have Mt. St. Mary's way too high. MSM ranked 209th this past season (Pomeroy), and they had three starters, including their best player, transfer out. They may still win the NEC but I don't see them being better than 200 nationally.
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800 |
07-18-17 08:22 PM - Post#231021
LaSalle seems low. Like to see them higher in Sojka |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
07-19-17 07:26 AM - Post#231026
From a John Griffin tweet: https://alwaysmarch.wordpress.com/2017/07/07/100-t... So someone has us top 100. This site does their list alphabetically.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
07-19-17 08:00 AM - Post#231030
Lasalle is too low. There's a strong athletic nucleus there to build on. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-19-17 01:53 PM - Post#231058
From a John Griffin tweet: https://alwaysmarch.wordpress.com/2017/07/07/100-t... So someone has us top 100. This site does their list alphabetically. I like the sound of this: "If it looked like Bucknell dominated the Patriot League last year, just wait for this season. The Bison are the overwhelming favorites to win the league. No team has ran the table in the Patriot League since the Bison did it back in 2006, but that was just a 14 game schedule. It will be extremely tough, but they definitely have the potential to do that this season. You may not hear much about these guys during the regular season, but they’ll be a dangerous, bracket-busting team come next March."
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
07-19-17 04:18 PM - Post#231075
That certainly sounds nice - but I think a bit optimistic. The PL is stronger now than it was in 2006. It will be tough to beat Boston U and Navy on the road, and the middle tier teams won't be gimmes either. Even the 2013 team with Muscala etal lost two league games- and that was with CJ out with an injury.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-19-17 05:40 PM - Post#231091
137, I agree with you, but that being said, I like the idea of another undefeated PL season.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
07-19-17 08:13 PM - Post#231096
137, I agree with you, but that being said, I like the idea of another undefeated PL season. I wonder how many remember that the Bison trailed Holy Cross by 15 points in the second half in the game at Worcester late in the regular season. Charles Lee scored 24 points in that game, and no other Bison had double figures.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-22-17 11:34 AM - Post#231173
Update: 114. Tennessee 113. UC Irvine 112. Louisiana 111. Colorado State http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-24-17 02:40 PM - Post#231203
Update: 110. Yale 109. Mercer http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
07-24-17 03:05 PM - Post#231205
71 is my guess. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-25-17 11:35 AM - Post#231242
71 is my guess. Husky, IMO, 71 is probably a realistic number. As previously stated, I think that 55-65 is probably where the Bison should be ranked, but I do not think that we will see any number in that range. If the Bison are ranked anywhere better than 70, I would genuinely be surprised.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-28-17 12:24 PM - Post#231380
Update: 109. Mercer 108. George Mason 107. Fairfield 106. UNC Asheville 105. Clemson http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... Good to see Coach Paulsen has GMU heading in the right direction.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
07-28-17 01:00 PM - Post#231382
Update: 109. Mercer 108. George Mason 107. Fairfield 106. UNC Asheville 105. Clemson http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... Good to see Coach Paulsen has GMU heading in the right direction. GMU should definitely have a good record when they head into conference play, as they have booked a soft schedule. The average 2017 Pomeroy ranking for their opponents is 182 and there are only three road games. VSÂ LAFAYETTE 330 ATÂ LOUISVILLE 9 VSÂ BINGHAMTON 314 VS CAL-NORTHRIDGE 284 VSÂ LOUISIANA TECH (NEUTRAL) 93 VS FRESNO STATE/EVANSVILLE (NEUTRAL) 126 ATÂ JAMES MADISON 223 ATÂ AUBURN 82 VSÂ WILLIAM & MARY 133 VSÂ NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL 161 VSÂ GEORGIA SOUTHERN 195 VSÂ PENN STATE 87 VSÂ MORGAN STATE 324 VCU, for comparison, has an average Pomeroy ranking of 132, albeit with only one true road game. The Bison figure to average better than this, unless a few of the unknown opponents turn out to be weak.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
07-28-17 04:54 PM - Post#231391
I think Bucknell has a relatively large profile now for people trying to find "sleeper" small schools. Last year's effort against WVU and returning the core team give legitimacy to lofty predictions. The OOC excites me and I'm glad we've been able to schedule these higher profile schools. We will obviously lose a few but winning a couple benefit our resume. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
07-28-17 06:00 PM - Post#231395
If you want to see an embarrassing schedule, take a look at Duquesne: - 11 of the 13 OOC games at home, with two in Las Vegas vs middle-of-the road teams. - Average Pomeroy rank of 265. - No teams that made the NCAA tournament last year. - No team with a realistic shot to make the tournament this year. - San Francisco is the only team with any chance of being top 100. - Only one P6 conference team, and it may be the worst one in the nation (Pitt). I realize that they have a new coach and are in full rebuilding mode - but their schedule is awful.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-31-17 09:22 AM - Post#231415
Update: 104. Grand Canyon (I had NEVER heard of this school.) 103. UNLV http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... More about Grand Canyon U: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon_Uni vers...
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
07-31-17 10:22 AM - Post#231417
Grand Canyon might be the only for-profit school with a D1 sports program. Their coach is Dan Majerle, who played in the NBA for about 15 years, mostly with Phoenix and Miami, and was a borderline all-star.
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pjm_hoops Sophomore Posts 151 |
07-31-17 11:14 AM - Post#231421
Their notable alumni list may need some re-prioritization. Alphabetically, it starts with Anthony Birchak, professional mixed martial artist (did not graduate) Chad Curtis, professional baseball player convicted of sexual assault Efrain Escudero, wrestler; professional mixed martial artist and ends with Kevin Warren, COO of the Minnesota Vikings I think I would organize that list differently if I were editing that page. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-31-17 11:30 AM - Post#231423
Their notable alumni list may need some re-prioritization. Alphabetically, it starts with Anthony Birchak, professional mixed martial artist (did not graduate) Chad Curtis, professional baseball player convicted of sexual assault Efrain Escudero, wrestler; professional mixed martial artist What, no career criminals or ISIS members?
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
07-31-17 02:39 PM - Post#231429
I found this link on the HC board. It looks like the students at Grand Canyon are having fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb1jJl9RvmQ&a mp;fe...
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-02-17 01:11 PM - Post#231501
Update: 102. Utah 101. Buffalo 100. Loyola Chicago http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... That is a big drop for Utah who finished #47 in Kenpom last year. The good news is that the Bison should be in the top 100.
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800 |
08-02-17 04:15 PM - Post#231514
Will be, not should |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-02-17 05:58 PM - Post#231521
54, I was going to say "will", but caution got the best of me.
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
08-03-17 01:10 PM - Post#231569
Wouldn't want to be accused of "Bison Stu tendencies".
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
08-03-17 08:27 PM - Post#231610
Wouldn't want to be accused of "Bison Stu tendencies". Little risk of that, if all you're predicting is where some dude at CollegeSportsMadness places the Bison in an August ranking. He may be less qualified to do that than some of the people here.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
08-03-17 09:07 PM - Post#231612
Wouldn't want to be accused of "Bison Stu tendencies". Little risk of that, if all you're predicting is where some dude at CollegeSportsMadness places the Bison in an August ranking. He may be less qualified to do that than some of the people here.Based on some of the past work of that particular writer, I am sure some of the people here are more qualified. Having said that, if it were Bison Stu doing the top 144, the only question would be whether Bucknell was #1 or a lower spot in the top five.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-08-17 06:47 AM - Post#231678
Update: 99. Nebraska 98. Furman 97. Tulsa 96. Iona 95. Belmont http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... I did not know where Furman and Belmont are located. I do now. Do you?
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
08-08-17 08:21 AM - Post#231679
My friend went to Furman. Greenville, South Carolina. Excellent school part of a group called "the southern Ivy's" |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
08-08-17 06:48 PM - Post#231702
Belmont is in Tennessee... I believe Nashville. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-08-17 07:28 PM - Post#231703
Husky and 63 are both correct. Winner winner chicken dinner. Sorry but no prize.
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
08-08-17 09:02 PM - Post#231704
My friend went to Furman. Greenville, South Carolina. Excellent school part of a group called "the southern Ivy's" Frank Selvy went to Furman. If you do not know of Frank Selvy, Google him! |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
08-09-17 12:45 AM - Post#231706
Place your bets: 3,000-to-1 odds on Bucknell 2017-18 national championship. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-09-17 05:40 AM - Post#231708
Frank Selvy went to Furman. If you do not know of Frank Selvy, Google him! Frank was a big time baller! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Selvy
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Old Bison Masters Student Posts 619 |
08-09-17 06:48 AM - Post#231710
Based on the betting line we're ranked #134!in the country at the open |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
08-09-17 07:45 AM - Post#231712
Place your bets: 3,000-to-1 odds on Bucknell 2017-18 national championship. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/... Already down to 2000-1. Someone must be betting on us. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
08-09-17 08:59 AM - Post#231722
Place your bets: 3,000-to-1 odds on Bucknell 2017-18 national championship. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/... Already down to 2000-1. Someone must be betting on us. No we opened at 2000-1 and are currently 3000-1 if the column labels are correct.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
08-13-17 04:54 PM - Post#231924
Now going on 88. 94 Princeton 93 Western Michigan 92 Mississippi State 91 Middle TN 90 Wyoming 89 Kansas State
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-13-17 10:52 PM - Post#231933
Now going on 88. 94 Princeton 93 Western Michigan 92 Mississippi State 91 Middle TN 90 Wyoming 89 Kansas State 137, so what is your guess on where the Bison will be ranked?
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-18-17 04:12 PM - Post#232214
Update: 88. Northern Kentucky 87. St. John's 86. South Carolina 85. Harvard 84. Davidson Getting close to the 70s where I think that Bucknell will be ranked, but I would be really happy to see a number in the mid 60s.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
08-19-17 11:52 AM - Post#232234
It'll be fun too seeing how last year's freshmen compete for minutes. Avi may be a four year starter if he's not careful. I think Bruce Moore has the biggest upside of anyone on the roster. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-19-17 09:04 PM - Post#232238
I was thinking that if Paul Newman is a decent center, he and Moore could end up dominating the boards in PL games. BTW, I think that Bucknell is stacked with talent up and down the bench.
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
08-19-17 09:11 PM - Post#232239
Including at the coaching position. ND's w/l record is nothing to sneeze at. Should have looked it up before posting this, but I am sure someone here will fill in the details. His % is crazy. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
08-19-17 09:51 PM - Post#232240
Including at the coaching position. ND's w/l record is nothing to sneeze at. Should have looked it up before posting this, but I am sure someone here will fill in the details. His % is crazy. At Randolph-Macon, 141-39 (.783) over six seasons. In two seasons at Bucknell, 43-23 overall (.652) and 29-7 in the Patriot League (.806). |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
08-20-17 06:52 AM - Post#232242
Nana could be a back to back MVP too if he stays on the floor a bit more. |
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KenZ Postdoc Posts 2777 |
08-20-17 10:11 AM - Post#232243
I was thinking that if Paul Newman is a decent center, he and Moore could end up dominating the boards in PL games. BTW, I think that Bucknell is stacked with talent up and down the bench. Moore was often aggressive on the offensive glass, but rarely did a lot of defensive rebounding last year. he certainly has the physical tools to do more, and in fact in the Navy game that Nana had to sit out he did in fact really step it up. i hope to see more rebounding out of him this year. Sestina actually has some of the best rebounding rates on the team and i think his ability to consistently back up Nana in the post is critical this year. i hope i am being too cautious, but i think Newman needs time to develop. if he can get a few minutes a game, similar to Robertson last year, that is all i expect this year. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
08-21-17 05:46 AM - Post#232247
What of Robertson? Can he work his way into the rotation? |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-21-17 10:40 AM - Post#232249
Update: 83. Penn State 82. Louisiana Tach 81. UT Arlington Nice to see Penn State so high. I wish that they would have had the guts to play Bucknell this year. http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-24-17 04:00 PM - Post#232373
Update: 80. Florida State 79. Colorado 78. Oakland http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... I was just thinking about what rankings mean to me. IMO, teams ranked 51-100 are good and have the potential to beat just about any other team on any given night but will also lose some games. Teams ranked 21-50 are very good and should win almost all of their game. Teams ranked 1-20 have a chance to win it all at the end of the year. http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
08-29-17 09:14 PM - Post#232482
They are unveiling a bracketology as they reveal the Top 144. Today's team was FGCU, and they claimed the last 13 seed left in the field as a projected automatic qualifier. Thus, we can infer they have Bucknell at a 12 or better seed in their preseason bracket. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
08-29-17 09:34 PM - Post#232483
Update: 80. Florida State 79. Colorado 78. Oakland 77 Oregon State 76 Ohio State 75 BYU 74 Houston 73 Florida Gulf Coast
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
08-30-17 09:30 AM - Post#232487
72. St. Joseph's |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-30-17 10:58 AM - Post#232493
72. St. Joseph's I had no idea that St. Joe's is expected to be that good this year. The Bucknell schedule is looking more and more difficult.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
08-30-17 11:44 AM - Post#232497
Not sure how good St. Joes will be - but they will definitely be a lot better than last year. In December of last year, they lost their star PG, Shavar Newkirk, to a torn ACL. At the time, he was averaging well over 20 ppg and over 35 mpg. They went 4-15 the rest of the season. He is back this year, and so is virtually their entire team.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
08-30-17 06:17 PM - Post#232506
a .500 OOC record is unlikely. |
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Old Bison Masters Student Posts 619 |
08-30-17 06:42 PM - Post#232509
Even 6-7 would be attractive - no gimmes and a lot on the road. W at Monmouth extraordinarily important so that it doesn't get ugly early...pieces are there but schedule is still very aspirational. One game at a time. |
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BisonFan4 Junior Posts 211 |
08-31-17 10:12 AM - Post#232519
71. Fresno State Call me optimistic, but I see this Bucknell team surprising alot of ppl & coming out of OOC with more wins. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
08-31-17 11:12 AM - Post#232520
Call me optimistic, but I see this Bucknell team surprising alot of ppl & coming out of OOC with more wins. BisonFan4, I agree with you. I am usually more conservative when it comes to predicting number of OOC wins, but having chugged at least a gallon of orange and blue kool-aide, I am going to go out on the limb and say that this team will be at least 7-6. If they are 8-5 or better, I will ecstatic!
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BisonFan4 Junior Posts 211 |
08-31-17 12:25 PM - Post#232522
I agree, possibly even better after they knock off the defending champions Nov 15th! This coming from a lifelong Tarheel fan, my first trip to see a game in Chapel Hill and I'll be sporting orange & blue lol. This is a truly special team & going to be a lot of fun to watch this year! |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
08-31-17 12:59 PM - Post#232523
I'm an eternal optimist, but optimism is warranted for this team. 7-6 or 8-5 is not only possible, but quite probable. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
08-31-17 02:34 PM - Post#232528
I'm excited as hell! I'm serious. A .500 OOC considering the number of games on the road would be OUTSTANDING. No sour grapes starting PL play with an RPI under 40. Seriously. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
09-01-17 09:15 AM - Post#232540
And, we're #70... http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15076 |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
09-01-17 09:17 AM - Post#232542
And projected as an always dangerous 12 seed... http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
09-01-17 11:32 AM - Post#232549
#70 is very solid. If the Bison were ranked in the 50s or low 60s, BCS teams might take them more seriously. I am very happy with #70. GO BISON!
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
09-01-17 04:21 PM - Post#232560
6 months till March Madness!! |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
09-05-17 08:27 AM - Post#232625
We might as well see the rest of the list: 69. Syracuse 68. Oklahoma State 67. Temple BTW, it has been a while since we played Temple. That would be a solid team to schedule for 2019-2020.
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
09-07-17 10:01 AM - Post#232696
Two of this season's opponents and one from last year 66. Vanderbilt 65. VCU 64. Vermont; |
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KenZ Postdoc Posts 2777 |
09-07-17 10:37 AM - Post#232699
BTW, it has been a while since we played Temple. That would be a solid team to schedule for 2019-2020. why 2019-2020 specifically? edit: or is that a couple of seasons as opposed to a specific season? |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
09-07-17 10:47 AM - Post#232700
The Bison, of course, played Temple in 2015 in the NIT. But that was not a scheduled game, and Temple had no choice. The last time the two played a regularly scheduled game was - incredibly - in 1982. Through that date, the two teams had played 34 times - but no scheduled games since then.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
09-07-17 11:08 AM - Post#232702
Speaking of teams in Philly, the one I'd really like to have a series with is Penn. The Bison haven't played them since the 2003-04 season. That year BU started by losing 11 straight games to D1 opponents, including the close loss at #3 Michigan State where the Bison went 1-17 on FT's. After that horrible start, they won 10 of their next 11 games.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
09-07-17 12:16 PM - Post#232705
BTW, it has been a while since we played Temple. That would be a solid team to schedule for 2019-2020. why 2019-2020 specifically? edit: or is that a couple of seasons as opposed to a specific season? I should have said in 2018, 2019 or 2020.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
09-07-17 02:18 PM - Post#232709
Speaking of teams in Philly, the one I'd really like to have a series with is Penn. The Bison haven't played them since the 2003-04 season. We played Penn at the Palestra in the 2004-05 season. It was the first Bucknell game I'd seen since Bucknell-Syracuse in the 1989 NCAA tournament my senior year, and launched my era of hoops travel. We lost, having dug an enormous hole early on. We did, however, rally to make it close. As I crossed paths with the team boarding the bus on that frosty December night in Philadelphia, I said, "Keep your heads up, Bison. We have a GREAT season ahead of us." |
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KenZ Postdoc Posts 2777 |
09-07-17 03:33 PM - Post#232711
fwiw: on the topic of games with Philly teams, my general understanding / impression has been: Villanova is generally willing to host us every few years in a guarantee game LaSalle obvioussly has been willing to schedule series with us including games at Sojka St. Joes wasn't interested in talking to us after we took 2 of 3 a decade ago. time heals all wounds? we are playing them again Penn not interested in coming to Lewisburg and we aren't going to go there without a return game. Temple not interested in coming to Lewisburg. don't know if we would play there for a guarantee, but i have the impression that is not likely to happen. Drexel would sign up for a home and home pretty much anytime we wanted provided the scheduling could be worked out. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
09-07-17 03:40 PM - Post#232712
Yes, I had forgotten all about that one. The next game after that loss was the miraculous OT win at Yale. That was followed by 10 more wins, with the streak only ending after Flannery had to take a medical leave. Two of the wins in that streak, of course, were at St. Joes - one year removed from an undefeated regular season - and at #7 Pitt.
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DoCtoR62 Masters Student Posts 463 |
09-07-17 04:26 PM - Post#232714
Yes, I had forgotten all about that one. The next game after that loss was the miraculous OT win at Yale. That was followed by 10 more wins, with the streak only ending after Flannery had to take a medical leave. Two of the wins in that streak, of course, were at St. Joes - one year removed from an undefeated regular season - and at #7 Pitt. Not be overlooked in the streak was a 2-point home win over Niagara right before the Christmas break. Niagara had just beat down St. Bonaventure by 30 and would go on to win 20 games and the MAAC championship that year. Don't know if the Bison ever had a better 4-game regular season stretch than Niagara, St. Joe's, Pitt and Holy Cross to end 2004 and begin 2005. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
09-07-17 05:52 PM - Post#232717
Don't know if the Bison ever had a better 4-game regular season stretch than Niagara, St. Joe's, Pitt and Holy Cross to end 2004 and begin 2005. Interesting observation. To your point, those four ended up the year ranked 106, 49, 24, and 65 (Pomeroy). Average ranking of 61st. Pitt was ranked a lot higher when the Bison beat them, but they dropped a bit with three losses near the end of the season - and then dropped some more when they were upset by Pacific in the NCAA. The Bison may have also had their toughest three-game stretch at the end of that season, beating HC (65), Kansas (11), and losing to Wisconsin (17). Average of 31. Like Pitt, Kansas dropped significantly at the end of the year. One more discussion point could be the toughest three opponents in a regular-season four game stretch. That might be last year when BU played Wake (36), RMU (266), Butler (25), and Vandy (33) in four consecutive games. Average of 31 for the top three. All of the above marks could be in jeopardy in about two months when the Bison open with Monmouth (81), Arkansas (35), UNC (3), and Maryland (46). Average of 41, per Pomeroy rankings from 2016-17. Average of 28 for the three in a row.
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Raymond Bucknell Sophomore Posts 179 |
09-07-17 10:37 PM - Post#232720
Don't know if the Bison ever had a better 4-game regular season stretch than Niagara, St. Joe's, Pitt and Holy Cross to end 2004 and begin 2005. Interesting observation. To your point, those four ended up the year ranked 106, 49, 24, and 65 (Pomeroy). Average ranking of 61st. Pitt was ranked a lot higher when the Bison beat them, but they dropped a bit with three losses near the end of the season - and then dropped some more when they were upset by Pacific in the NCAA. The Bison may have also had their toughest three-game stretch at the end of that season, beating HC (65), Kansas (11), and losing to Wisconsin (17). Average of 31. Like Pitt, Kansas dropped significantly at the end of the year. One more discussion point could be the toughest three opponents in a regular-season four game stretch. That might be last year when BU played Wake (36), RMU (266), Butler (25), and Vandy (33) in four consecutive games. Average of 31 for the top three. All of the above marks could be in jeopardy in about two months when the Bison open with Monmouth (81), Arkansas (35), UNC (3), and Maryland (46). Average of 41, per Pomeroy rankings from 2016-17. Average of 28 for the three in a row. This is the sort of research and insight that keeps me coming back (multiple times) daily during the deep, dark off-season. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
09-07-17 11:06 PM - Post#232721
I was thinking that too, Raymond. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
09-08-17 05:49 AM - Post#232723
137, you should work for ESPNU!
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
09-12-17 05:54 AM - Post#232786
Update: 63. Iowa State 62. Wisconsin 61. Western Kentucky 60. NC State BTW, I went to the Bucknell vs. NC State game 2-3 years ago. The NC State fans were very nice. The guys sitting next to me were surprised to hear that student athletes can go to college to get a good education in addition to playing basketball. They kept saying something like, 'Why aren't y'all's players at bigger schools? They can really play.'
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09-12-17 10:05 AM - Post#232791
Update: The NC State fans were very nice. The guys sitting next to me were surprised to hear that student athletes can go to college to get a good education in addition to playing basketball. They kept saying something like, 'Why aren't y'all's players at bigger schools? They can really play.' I used to work with the chief counsel of a major US utility who later served as its chairman and CEO. He grew up in LA and had several D1 offers, a couple of them from major programs, IIRC. He ultimately elected to attend and play for Yale. His boyhood friends were extremely disappointed in his choice as they were sure he could have "made something of himself" had he gone the major college route. As an aside, his son graduated from Bucknell a few years ago. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
09-15-17 04:21 PM - Post#232872
Update: 59. Auburn 58. Saint Louis 57. UConn 56. San Diego State
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
09-19-17 11:38 AM - Post#232970
Update: 55. Indiana 54. Georgia Tech 53. Dayton 52. Arizona State As I was looking at this list, I was thinking that it might be fun to rank the conferences. Without putting a lot of thought into it, I would rank them: 1. ACC 2. Big East 3. Big 12 4. Big 10 5. SEC 6. Pac 12 7. A-10 8. AAC 9. WCC 10. MVC I think that there could be an argument for moving WCC higher, but really, once you get past Gonzaga and St. Mary's, there is a big drop off to BYU, San Franciso, and Santa Clara.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
10-02-17 08:46 AM - Post#233411
Update: 51. Wake Forest 50. Nevada 49. Marquette 48. Central Florida 47. Stanford 46. Charleston 45. Ole Miss 44. Iowa 43. St. Bonaventure's 42. Texas Tech 41. Arkansas 40. SMU Good to see Wake Forest at #51. Interesting to see Charleston and St. Bonnies ranked so high. Personally, I know nothing about their teams. With Arkansas ranked #41, it would look VERY good for the Bison to win one in Fayetteville. Also, it would help the Bison's RPI.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
10-08-17 11:54 AM - Post#233582
Update: 39. Maryland 38. Creighton 37. Oregon 36. Michigan 35. Baylor 34. Virginia 33. Missouri The Maryland game should be lots of fun.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
10-13-17 02:23 PM - Post#233931
Update: 32. Missouri 31. Rhode Island 30. UCLA 29. Providence 28. Virginia There should be some good ball played in New England this season.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
10-16-17 12:36 PM - Post#234046
Update: 27. Oklahoma 26. Butler 25. Texas A&M
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
10-16-17 05:46 PM - Post#234055
List of 10 teams that could be March Cinderellas excludes Bucknell---which is just how I like it. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/... |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
10-17-17 01:09 PM - Post#234091
Cinderella cannot be a team "expected" to be a cinderella.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
10-17-17 01:45 PM - Post#234094
Cinderella cannot be a team "expected" to be a cinderella. AB, that is well said, but numerically speaking, if they are a #9-#16 seed and they win a game, it is an upset. So, they would have to be considered a Cinderella, right? Then again, when Bucknell beat Arkansas, I don't think that anybody, outside of Arkansas, was surprised. So, nobody thought of them as a Cinderella. If the Bison had beaten Memphis, then, the slipper might have fit.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-17-17 07:34 PM - Post#234110
Cinderella cannot be a team "expected" to be a cinderella. Posted this on the wrong thread last night. I'm hoping by March Bucknell will not look (or act) like a Cinderella. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-17-17 10:08 PM - Post#234116
I hope our expectations are not too high. I think we all would enjoy a season so rich that we would earn an at-large bid if needed. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
10-23-17 10:16 AM - Post#234372
Update: 24. Notre Dame 23. Northwestern 22. Xavier 21. TCU 20. Purdue 19. St. Mary's 18. Cincinnati Other than Gonzaga (which really is not a mid-major), is St. Mary's the best mid-major?
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
10-30-17 03:23 PM - Post#235054
Update: 17. Alabama 16. North Carolina 15. Miami (FL) 14. Gonzaga 13. Minnesota 12. Seton Hall 11. Florida
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-30-17 04:47 PM - Post#235064
Alabama....that's interesting. I cannot remember the last time they were good at college basketball. Didn't Bucknell beat them unexpectedly in the 90's? I can't remember the circumstances. |
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11-02-17 12:47 PM - Post#235335
Update: 10. West Virginia 9. Kentucky 8. Louisville (Shoes for $$$? No big deal . . .)
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11-09-17 05:52 PM - Post#235770
Final update: 7. USC 6. Villanova 5. Wichita State 4. Kansas 3. Duke 2. Michigan State 1. Arizona Interesting to see Wichita State running with the big dogs.
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