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Bison137
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07-20-17 04:20 PM - Post#231121    

Here is an early look at this PL season, starting with a review of where teams finished last year, followed by what they have returning in terms of minutes, points, rebounds, etc.

Last season, these were the PL records and overall Pomeroy rankings of each team:

Bucknell  . 15-3 . . . 76
Lehigh . . . 12-6 . . . 115
Boston U . 12-6 . . . 192
Navy . . . . 10-8 . . . 206
Holy Cross . 9-9 . . . 215
Loyola . . . 8-10 . . . 227
Colgate . . 8-10 . . . 268
Army . . . . 6-12 . . . 230
American . 5-13 . . . 307
Lafayette . 5-13 . . . 330


And here is what each team is returning from last year in terms of minutes, points, rebounds, assists, and steals - plus a weighted average (double weight for points, minutes, and rebounds, 1.5 weight for assists):


MINUTES
Colgate 93.0%
Bucknell 92.3%
Lafayette 82.8%
Loyola 81.8%
Navy 80.8%
Army 75.5%
Boston 70.2%
American 51.0%
Lehigh 47.9%
Holy Cross 40.7%

POINTS
Colgate 93.9%
Bucknell 92.9%
Navy 82.1%
Lafayette 79.7%
Army 79.5%
Loyola 76.4%
Boston 60.8%
American 58.2%
Lehigh 41.0%
Holy Cross 34.4%

REBOUNDS
Colgate 94.3%
Lafayette 91.4%
Bucknell 89.5%
Navy 79.2%
Loyola 76.9%
Army 67.2%
Boston 57.9%
American 46.6%
Holy Cross 36.8%
Lehigh 36.4%

ASSISTS
Bucknell 96.9%
Colgate 92.0%
Navy 86.8%
Army 86.5%
Loyola 84.2%
Boston 78.7%
Lafayette 68.3%
Lehigh 66.4%
Holy Cross 53.4%
American 50.4%

BLOCKS
Lafayette 98.6%
Bucknell 97.0%
Colgate 92.7%
Navy 68.2%
Loyola 67.4%
Army 65.6%
American 53.4%
Boston 46.4%
Holy Cross 39.5%
Lehigh 27.4%

STEALS
Colgate 93.9%
Bucknell 91.3%
Boston 84.5%
Lafayette 84.4%
Navy 81.5%
Loyola 80.4%
Army 80.3%
American 56.5%
Lehigh 50.2%
Holy Cross 39.7%

WEIGHTED
Colgate 93.4%
Bucknell 93.0%
Lafayette 83.5%
Navy 80.4%
Loyola 78.3%
Army 75.8%
Boston 66.0%
American 52.3%
Lehigh 45.0%
Holy Cross 40.3%


Note: Boston U gets back two solid reserves in SG Cheddi Mosely and forward Destin Barnes. Both were suspended for most of the season last year. Lehigh and American each pick up two transfers who are eligible this year.


Coming next - a compilation of players lost due to transfer or graduation.



Bison137
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07-20-17 04:49 PM - Post#231125    

Here are players lost to transfer since last season began:

AMERICAN
• Delante Jones 6-5 soph SF – to Seattle; was PL ROY in 2015-16; was worse as soph.
• Lonnie Rivera 6-6 soph PF – transferred to Wagner; started a number of PL games after Tolksdorf was hurt.
• Alex Paquin 6-0 jr CG – to McGill (Canada) as grad transfer.
• Andrija Matic 6-10 soph Center – going to Europe ; was a regular in rotation as a freshman, rarely played as soph.

ARMY
• None known at this point. But with 10 freshmen and 10 sophomores on the 2016-17 roster, some churn is inevitable.

BOSTON
• None known.

COLGATE
• Dave Krmpotich 6-7 soph PF – left team during season last year but appears to still be a Colgate student.

HOLY CROSS
• Tyrone Cohen 6-5 freshman wing - to Hutchison Community College; was expelled from HC after 1st semester.

LAFAYETTE
• Monty Boykins 6-5 senior wing - to Pitt for a redshirt senior year. Already graduated from LC but missed senior year due to shoulder injury.
• Dom Cristiano 6-8 PF/C (recruited walk-on) - to NYU.

LEHIGH
• Brandon Alston 6-5 junior wing - transferred to Georgia Tech with two years of eligibility left. Alston was LU’s 6th man for much of the season and then became a key starter for final ten games. Played 33 minutes in championship game.
• Matt Holba 6-7 redshirt soph SF/PF - to Indiana Fort Wayne. Was a starter until mid-January, and averaged about 20 mpg.

LOYOLA
• Dylan Gollihar 7-0 frosh center - to Lees-McRae. Gollihar was a project and missed the entire season due to injury.
• Austin Harriott 6-4 frosh wing - to Bloomsburg. Rarely played as a freshman.

NAVY
• James Butler 6-8 frosh PF - to Drexel. Butler left the Navy team when PL play started.



Paulie777
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07-20-17 08:10 PM - Post#231128    

First of all, thank you Bison137 for compiling and posting this. Its enriching to read and passes the summer faster too. Decidedly good news for Bucknell as their 15-3 team is returning a lot of the stuff that made them winners last year, but Lafayette may be groaning from the abundance of returning production of their 5-13 team! And other teams could be getting great talent in and Army is always a wildcard team. Thats how I see it. Bucknell is in the catbird seat. My question is even with a wider gap between the Bison and the others than last year, can they improve on 15-3 and 26-9? On paper and on court they are a great team, but how good? Nana could be downing the mac and cheese and getting distracted by video games and girls, Bruce Moore could be a book-reading nerd we just don't know. But how are they going to improve on the impressive W column from last year?
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07-21-17 05:09 PM - Post#231161    

Continuing, here are all of the players lost by team, starting with Army ("AR"). Players who transferred out are designated with a "TR".


- Brown, Richard AR 6-6 . 16 games, 4.3 mpg, 0.5 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.3 apg.
- Edwards, Kennedy AR 6-6 . 27 games, 14.8 mpg, 5.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Hoffman, Mac AR 6-8 . 32 games, 21.6 mpg, 6.2 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.8 apg.
- Mammel, Scott AR 5-11 . 32 games, 13.3 mpg, 3.7 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.8 apg.

- Andrija Matic AU (Tr) 17 games, 6.8 mpg, 1.3 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.2 apg.
- Jones, Delante AU 6-5 (Tr) 30 games, 31.6 mpg, 11.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.8 apg.
- Jones, Charlie AU 6-4 . 30 games, 33.5 mpg, 6.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 2.6 apg.
- Paquin, Alex AU 6-1 (Tr) 25 games, 10.6 mpg, 2.6 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Rhea, Jalen AU 6-2 24 games, 14.2 mpg, 4.0 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.2 apg.
- Rivera, Lonnie AU 6-6 (Tr) 21 games, 17.4 mpg, 5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Tolksdorf, Leon AU 6-8 14 games, 18.3 mpg, 2.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.7 apg.

- Alston, Justin BOS 6-8 . 32 games, 23.9 mpg, 12.0 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.7 apg.
- Fanning, Eric BOS 6-5 . 32 games, 28.0 mpg, 14.9 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 2.1 apg.
- Haines, Dylan BOS 7-0 . 19 games, 6.7 mpg, 1.4 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg.
- Mbargorba, Blaise BOS 7-0 . 8 games, 9.6 mpg, 2.3 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.0 apg.

- Azzinaro, John Buck 5-11 . 31 games, 8.1 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 0.6 rpg, 0.2 apg.
- MacLeay, D.J. Buck 6-7 . 33 games, 8.7 mpg, 2.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.3 apg.

- Bargmann Andrew CU 6-3 . 22 games, 8.3 mpg, 1.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Harries Nathan CU 6-2 . 22 games, 19.0 mpg, 5.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.4 apg.
- Krmpotich Dave CU 6-7 (LT) 7 games, 4.9 mpg, 2.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.3 apg.

- Alexander, Malachi HC 6-7 . 32 games, 34.5 mpg, 13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.9 apg.
- Champion, Robert HC 6-6 . 32 games, 31.9 mpg, 13.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.3 apg.
- Husek, Matt HC 6-11 . 32 games, 18.8 mpg, 6.7 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.8 apg.
- Thompson, Anthony HC 5-9 . 32 games, 33.3 mpg, 6.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.2 apg.

- Boykins, Monty LC 6-5 (Tr) 1 games, 25.0 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.0 apg.
- Lindner, Nick LC 5-11 . 30 games, 33.3 mpg, 13.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 4.0 apg.

- Gorski, Nick LOY 6-9 . 19 games, 5.1 mpg, ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg.
- Harriott, Austin LOY 6-4 (Tr) 16 games, 5.9 mpg, 0.9 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg.
- Jones, Jarred LOY 6-6 . 32 games, 30.8 mpg, 14.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.8 apg.

- Alston, Brandon LU 6-5 (Tr) 32 games, 20.6 mpg, 6.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.2 apg.
- Carter, Devon LU 6-4 . 19 games, 5.1 mpg, 1.2 ppg, 0.2 rpg, 0.1 apg.
- Holba, Matt LU 6-7 (Tr) 31 games, 19.4 mpg, 3.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.0 apg.
- Kempton, Tim LU 6-10 . 32 games, 31.6 mpg, 20.4 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.1 apg.
- Price, Austin LU 6-4 . 32 games, 31.4 mpg, 13.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.7 apg.

- Abruzzo, Tim NA 6-5 . 24 games, 14.5 mpg, 4.8 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.6 apg.
- Alade, Edward NA 6-9 . 32 games, 16.7 mpg, 4.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.6 apg.
- Butler, James NA 6-7 (Tr) 4 games, 6.3 mpg, 1.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.3 apg.
- Fong, Zach NA 6-0 . 21 games, 7.9 mpg, 2.6 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.6 apg.
- Hemphill, James NA 6-7 . 19 games, 6.3 mpg, 1.9 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg.


Note that Boykins missed virtually the entire season due to a shoulder injury and Tolksdorf missed all PL games due to a knee injury. Also Harries missed about half the PL games due to injury. And Mbargorba was suspended for the majority of the season.



jkrun80
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07-23-17 03:40 PM - Post#231191    

Thanks for all the great info 137. It's way too early to speculate on final league standings - so I won't other than to say the Bison should dominate, barring major injuries.

Paulie, don't worry about Nana. He's been in the gym working on his game. It's scary to think how good he might be this season.
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08-31-17 04:40 PM - Post#232532    

More info. Here are all the players being added to rosters. I have included transfers who sat out last year and are now eligible to play, plus a couple of players who missed the entire year to injury. (Also listed in italics are the Army/Navy players who appear to be heading for a redshirt year at their prep schools, although it is sometimes hard to tell.)

Also every reported offer for each recruit is shown, taken largely from Verbal Commits but also from their twitter accounts. For some additional perspective, I have listed each player's commitment date. That is relevant because players who committed early likely would have received more and possibly better offers. Those who committed before July 1st (prior to Summer AAU) might be considered very early and probably would have received more/higher offers. Those who committed by the end of August are somewhat early and might well have improved the offer list. Those who committed later in the Fall and in the Spring often were not going to upgrade the offer list.

As a guess, I would say the team with the top quality freshmen is Boston U, followed by Bucknell and Lehigh. Tops in terms of quantity of legitimate prospects are Lehigh, Holy Cross, and American.

- - - - -

Legend:


Fr = normal incoming freshman.
RFr = Service Academy player who "redshirted" at their prep school last year.
Juco = junior college transfer who is eligible to play this year.
Tran = transfer who sat out last year.
INJ = player who did not play at all last year due to injury.
Prep = Service Academy player who is being "redshirted" at their prep school this year.

- - - - -

ARMY:
1 RFr - - Blackwell, Tucker (MAPS past yr) - 6-1 PG (IN) - IUPUI; committed 5/3/16
2 RFr - - Finke, Nick (MAPS past yr) - 6-7 PF (IL) - none; committed 11/7/15
3 RFr - - Fuller, Cameron (MAPS past yr) - 6-8 PF (CA) - none; committed 12/11/15
4 Fr - - - Grayson, Lonnie 6-2 SG (OH) - none; committed 11/19/2016
5 Fr - - - King, Alex 6-8 SF (IN) - Ball State, Lehigh, Evansville, Indiana State, Navy; committed 3/25/17
6 RFr - - Madden, Mark (MAPS past yr) - 6-4 wing (IN) - none; committed 8/4/15
7 Fr - - - Scully, John 6-2 PG (TX) - none; committed 7/26/16

Prep - Caldwell, Josh (MAPS this yr) - 6-1 PG (SC) - none; committed 7/25/2016
Prep - Duhart, Aaron (MAPS this yr) 5-11 PG (VA) - NJIT, UMBC; committed 11/1/2016
Prep - Helton, Josh (MAPS this yr) 6-9 PF/C (NC) - none; committed 9/22/16
Prep - Kinker, Ben (MAPS this yr) - 6-8 PF (IN) - none; committed 10/29/16
Prep - McGlothan, Gabe (MAPS this yr) 6-6 PF (AZ) - No. Colorado, MT State, E. Wash., Portland St., NDSU, (all 2015 offers), Cal Davis; committed 9/27/16

AMERICAN:
1 Fr - - - Beckton, Stacey 6-5 SG (FL) - Manhattan, JMU, UNF, Alcorn, Bethune (all old offers) - committed 4/21/17
2 Fr - - - Bragg, Marvin 6-7 wing (CA) - none; committed 11/10/2016
3 Juco - Diallo, Cheikh (juco transfer) - 6-3 SG (Senegal/Kilgore CC) - none; 6/17/17
4 Fr - - - Hoekstra, Max 6-7 SF (Netherlands/ss Feet Acad.) - none; 11/20/16
5 Fr - - - Iorio, Sam 6-6 SF (PA) - Boston, Lehigh, LC, Rider, Bing, UNH, Brown, MSM; committed 9/21/16
6 Fr - - - Lamont, Drew 6-8 PF (FL) - Jacksonville; committed 9/30/16
7 Fr - - - Little, Jesse 6-10 Center (MS) - none; committed 3/25/17

8 Tran - Motuzis, Laurynas (transfer, sat out past season) 6-6 SF (IL) - none; started for St. Xaver (NAIA) as a frosh



BOSTON:
1 Fr - - - Mathon, Sukhmail 6-10 Center (PA) - LaSalle, Bucknell, Penn, HC, Colgate, LC, Columbia, Brown, Canisius, Qpac; committed 8/8/16
2 Fr - - - McCoy, Javante 6-5 CG (TX/PG yr at Phillips Exeter) - Yale, Fordham, Northeastern, San Diego, San. Fran., Dartmouth, Cornell, Elon, Colgate, LC; committed 10/15/16
3 Fr - - - Whyte, Walter 6-6 SF (CT) - VCU, Richmond, Davidson, St. Joes, Bona, Fordham, Duq, Rice, W&M, Towson, Bowling Green, Hofstra, Siena, Niagara, Penn, Yale, Brown, Qpac, Monmouth, Lehigh, HC, etc; committed 10/5/16

BUCKNELL:
1 Fr - - - Meeks, John 6-6 SF - Bona, Delaware, Air Force, UNCG, Charleston So., Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth, Army, American; committed 9/19/16
2 Fr - - - Newman, Paul 6-9 Center - Towson, Brown; committed 4/12/17
3 Fr - - - Sotos, Jimmy 6-3 PG - Drake, UNI, IL State, Loyola (IL), W&M, W. Mich., Milwaukee, Priceton, Penn, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Army, LC, Northeastern, Wofford, Furman, Elon, Winthrop, Campbell; committed 10/3/16

COLGATE:
1 Fr - - - Baxter, Hugh 6-8 PF (Australia); committed in spring
2 Fr - - - Burns, Jordan 6-0 PG (TX/PG Kent School) - none ; committed 11/11/15
3 Fr - - - Ferguson, Jack 6-2 SG - none ; committed 4/11/2017
4 Fr - - - Maynard, David 6-4 wing (committed in 2015, did 2-yr Mormon mission) - none? ; committed 2/13/15

HOLY CROSS:
1 Fr - - - Butler, Austin 6-5 SG (PA) - UNH, Navy; committed 8/8/16
2 Fr - - - Copeland, Kyle 6-4 SG (VA/PhillipsExeter) - High Point, MSM, St Francis, American; committed 8/9/16
3 Fr - - - Faw, Matt 6-9 PF/C (PA) - American, Navy, LC ;committed 8/11/16
4 Fr - - - Grandison, Jacob 6-6 SF (CA/Phillips Exeter) - none; committed 3/10/17
5 Fr - - - Green, Caleb 5-11 PG (NH) - Fairfield, Stony Brook, Chattanooga, Loyola (MD), LC, Brown, UNH; committed 8/6/2016
6 Fr - - - Niego, Connor 6-8 PF -Winthrop, Evansville, Green Bay ; committed 8/9/16

LAFAYETTE:
1 Fr - - - Hastings, Dylan 6-9 Center (PA) - MSM; committed 8/27/16
2 Fr - - - Jaworski, Justin 6-1 CG (PA) - American; committed 3/30/17
3 Fr - - - Petrie, Alex 6-3 PG (VA) - Towson, Northeastern, Drexel, MSM, Radford, Cal Poly; committed 8/24/16
4 Fr - - - Stephens, Eylijah 6-4 wing (FL) - none; committed 2/20/17

LEHIGH:
1 Fr - - - Bennett, Caleb 6-5 wing (MO) - UTEP, UNI, Bufalo, ORU, San Jose, Middle TN; committed 9/6/16
2 Fr - - - Karnik, James 6-9 Center (CAN) - Cansius, No. AZ, Maine, Montana State, Jacksonville; committed 4/18/17
3 Juco - Porter, Ed (Juco transfer - 3 yrs of eligibility) 6-7 SF (FL) - ?; committed May 2017
4 Fr - - - Wilson, Marques 6-4 SG (OK) - Bucknell, Evansville, W. IL, UMKC, Brown, IA State (?) - from April of soph yr; committed 9/5/16

5 INJ - - Lieb, Jack 6-10 Center (2nd yr but hasn't played due to injury) - 6-10 Center (IL/PG yr in NH) - LC, Boston, App St, Niagara, Siena, IL St, Loyola (IL), SIUE
6 INJ - - Sedore, Caleb (3rd yr but hasn't played due to injury) - 6-11 Center (NY) - Bucknell, Cornell
7 Tran - Tejada, Lance (transfer, sat out past yr) 6-2 PG (FL) - Orig offers: FL State, Miami, Butler, Alabama, UVA, TX A&M, GMU, USF, etc - At E. Carolina, averaged 14 mpg and 4 ppg, shot 30%

LOYOLA:
1 Fr - - - Hart, Isaiah 5-10 PG (GA) - Coastal Carolina, W. Carolina, Alcorn; committed 3/28/17
2 Fr - - - Holcombe, Brent 6-7 PF (FL) - Charleston Southern, Winthrop, Youngstown, TN Tech; committed 4/18/17
3 Fr - - - Johnson, Luke 6-3 SG (KY) - none; committed 9/9/16
4 Fr - - - Reed, River 6-9 PF/C (TX) - Evansville, Rider, St. Francis, Dartmouth, North Texas, Houston Baptist; committed 10/19/16

NAVY:
1 Fr - - - Davis, Cameron 6-0 PG (MO) - Army; committed 9/12/16
2 RFr - - Lake, Eli (NAPS past yr) 6-6 SF (SC) - Coastal Carolina, USC Upstate; committed 10/28/15
3 RFr - - Lawrence, Jack (NAPS past yr) 6-9 Center (VA) - none ; committed 8/31/2015
4 Fr - - - Loehr, Alec 6-7 PF (MN) - Army; committed 10/22/16
5 Fr - - - Loehr, Luke 6-7 PF (MN) - Army; committed 10/22/16
6 Fr - - - Mathis, JR 6-0 PG (KY) - IUPUI; committed 10/24/16
7 RFr - - Ogele, Daniel (NAPS past yr) 6-6 SF (IL) - none; committed 2/11/16
8 RFr - - Reagan, Ryan (NAPS past yr) 6-8 PF (PA) - Air Force; committed 10/5/15
9 Fr - - - Riemersma, Tyler 6-7 PF (IN) - Army; committed 9/11/16

Prep - Carter, John ( MAPS this year) 6-5 SF (TN) - Campbell; committed 9/15/16
Prep - Marion, Kyle (MAPS this year) 6-1 PG (FL) - Towson, Army, Jacksonville; committed 12/16/16
Prep - Merete, Gabe (MAPS this year) 6-7 SF (FL) - Army; committed 10/3/16
Prep - Silva, Christian (MAPS this year) 6-2 PG (FL) - none; committed 4/14/17
Prep - Summers, Greg (MAPS this year) 6-2 PG (FL) - none; Spring 2017
Prep - Terrell, Jaylon (MAPS this year) 6-3 PG (GA) - none; committed 11/20/16



- - - - -

Fr = normal incoming freshman.
RFr = Service Academy player who "redshirted" at their prep school last year.
Juco = junior college transfer who is eligible to play this year.
Tran = transfer who sat out last year.
INJ = player who did not play at all last year due to injury.
Prep = Service Academy player who is being "redshirted" at their prep school this year.



SomedayCameSuddenly
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08-31-17 10:27 PM - Post#232536    

Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.

Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17
Bison137
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08-31-17 10:35 PM - Post#232537    

  • SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.

Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17





Definitely didn't miss him - since I was the one who posted his commitment on your board. Just forgot to add him, as my spreadsheet was completed a week ago (although only posted today).

Any news on which Boston U scholarship player has left - or if that account in the Petcash article was incorrect?



Bison89
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09-01-17 04:51 AM - Post#232539    

137, that list must have taken hours and possibly days to compile. Thank you!

Just based on the number and quality of offers per player, there appears to be a big difference between BU/Bucknell/Lehigh and the rest of the PL.

With Bucknell not being an active player in the transfer/JUCO game, It is interesting to see where some players come from. Something tells me that there might be some stories behind these players.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!

SomedayCameSuddenly
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09-01-17 11:02 AM - Post#232551    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.

Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17





Definitely didn't miss him - since I was the one who posted his commitment on your board. Just forgot to add him, as my spreadsheet was completed a week ago (although only posted today).

Any news on which Boston U scholarship player has left - or if that account in the Petcash article was incorrect?



The belief on the BU board was the player is Blaise Mbargorba who was granted an extra year of eligibility due to his injury at SMU apparently. He had been hanging out with the Coach Jones and some other team members this summer in photos. This also makes sense as to why BU hadn't recruited a 13th player for a scholarship until late this summer.
MrPhillie
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09-06-17 10:59 AM - Post#232662    

How might this change in transfer status affect Bucknell? I think it is more fair for players but not sure how GPA angle will work given all of the suspected and known Tom-foolery with athletes courses and grades. And can coaches hold players "hostage" as some have done in the past?

https://twitter.com/aslater247/status/905 184638779...


Bison89
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09-06-17 12:15 PM - Post#232665    

I can't see the NCAA allowing all transfers to be immediately eligible to play. That would be CRAZY!

https://usc.247sports.com/Article/Sources-Major -Po...
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!

KenZ
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09-06-17 07:08 PM - Post#232685    

  • Bison89 Said:
I can't see the NCAA allowing all transfers to be immediately eligible to play. That would be CRAZY!

https://usc.247sports.com/Article/Sources-Major -Po...



i will not be surprised if this happens.
Bison137
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09-06-17 08:31 PM - Post#232686    

I won't be surprised if it happens - and I won't be at all surprised if it is CRAZY. On the one side, it might help a couple of the PL teams that are OK with bringing in transfers - Lehigh, American, Colgate, and maybe Boston U. But on the other hand, Lehigh and American have also had multiple players transfer out. That's good for a program if it's the underperformers who depart - but not good if it is rotation players.



KenZ
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09-07-17 02:16 PM - Post#232710    

article with a number of coaches registering their concerns with the proposal

http://scout.com/college/basketball/re cruiting/Art...


MrPhillie
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09-07-17 06:53 PM - Post#232718    

Excellent points by all. I think they leave it as it is but not allow coaches to hold players hostage if they wish to transfer and sit out a year.
BisonRoadWarrior
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09-07-17 08:38 PM - Post#232719    

  • KenZ Said:
article with a number of coaches registering their concerns with the proposal

http://scout.com/college/basketball/re cruiting/Art...



Wow, those quotes really get your attention. Very interesting. Thanks for posting that.
KenZ
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09-08-17 08:04 AM - Post#232724    

and, of course, Jay Bilas makes the case for immedate elegibility

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story/...
MrPhillie
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09-08-17 09:09 PM - Post#232744    

Actually, the way he words it, he has valid points as well. The NCAA are hypocritical at several turns.
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09-11-17 10:06 AM - Post#232762    

Apparently, somebody is making a movie about HC's 1954 championship team called Purple Reign. The HC board is talking about it. Personally, I think that the trailer is very interesting. BTW, I never knew that HC is the smallest school to ever win a hoops championship.

http://crossports.freeforums.net/thread/1595/purpl...
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09-11-17 01:20 PM - Post#232770    

Just to clarify, holy cross won the NCAA championship in 1947. That was an eight team tournament, all played at MSG. Their 1954 title was in the NIT.

Hopefully the movie will point out that it took a Bucknell graduate (Doggie Julian) coaching them for them to win the 1947 title.



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09-18-17 07:37 AM - Post#232912    

Looks like practice can officially start on 09/29 which is 2 Fridays from now. Is the athletic department planning anything special to get the students pumped up for what should be an exciting season?
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09-27-17 06:11 PM - Post#233276    

  • SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
  • SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.

Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17





Definitely didn't miss him - since I was the one who posted his commitment on your board. Just forgot to add him, as my spreadsheet was completed a week ago (although only posted today).

Any news on which Boston U scholarship player has left - or if that account in the Petcash article was incorrect?



The belief on the BU board was the player is Blaise Mbargorba who was granted an extra year of eligibility due to his injury at SMU apparently. He had been hanging out with the Coach Jones and some other team members this summer in photos. This also makes sense as to why BU hadn't recruited a 13th player for a scholarship until late this summer.




Following up on this, the player who left was not Mbargorba - which seemed a bit implausible. It was their starting PG, junior Kyle Foreman, who will remain in school but no longer play hoops. That means their starting PG will presumably be senior Eric Johnson, who has been the backup the last two years, averaging 15-20 mpg. Not as good as Foreman but not a big drop-off. The backup will either have to be frosh Javante McCoy, a 6-5 CG who may not be ready for that role, or else starting wing Cedric Hankerson, who is a 5th year senior. He has played that role occasionally in the past, but it would likely hamper his scoring.



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09-27-17 07:00 PM - Post#233279    

Laffayette gets a commitment from Sean Good who is rated as high as 3.5 stars. I am not sure of the accuracy of that however. He appears to have been recruited at a higher level early on but still a good recruit for the Leopards. 137 any more info ?
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09-27-17 08:53 PM - Post#233283    

  • bisonmania Said:
Laffayette gets a commitment from Sean Good who is rated as high as 3.5 stars. I am not sure of the accuracy of that however. He appears to have been recruited at a higher level early on but still a good recruit for the Leopards. 137 any more info ?





He likely is a solid PL recruit, but I don't think there is much chance of him being another Mike Muscala or Nana Foulland. I doubt he will end up as good as Jared Mintz, although only time will tell.

He got an offer from Penn State at the start of his sophomore year - likely based on him already being 6-10 - and then added ones from Rice, Davidson, Penn, Boston U, and Colgate in the spring of his soph year. Then no reported offers for 15 months - except from Columbia - as his game appeared to plateau and he apparently stopped growing. I think PSU and Davidson pulled their offers at some point, but I can't confirm that. Given his school's proximity to Lewisburg, I am sure Bucknell scouted him - but he did not have a Bison offer. His final four were Colgate, Lafayette, Columbia, and Rice.


Good plays for a relatively small Catholic school (Trinity) in Camp Hill. Their competition is reasonably good, but far from great. Good last year - as a 6-10 junior - only averaged 8.6 ppg, but he did get 10.1 rpg and 4.4 bpg. (For comparison, as a freshman two years earlier he averaged 7.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, and 5.1 bpg.) Not surprisingly, he had a big height advantage over most of his competitors, but is very thin (maybe 205 pounds). He was surrounded by two all-state players, which likely affected the number of shots he took but also meant he got easier shots than if he were the main offensive weapon. In AAU ball, he played for a strong team (Team Final) that had two superstars (ended up at Duke and Oregon) and a number of solid mid-major players. Good averaged about 10 mpg for that team, based on their website box scores.

As for his 3.5 stars, which is a Verbal Commits average of 4 stars from ESPN and 3 stars from Rivals, you have to remember that those sites see very few of the players who aren't superstars. Good suddenly went from unranked to 4 stars from ESPN when he picked up the PSU offer at the start of his sophomore year. Likely the same with Rivals.



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09-28-17 12:01 PM - Post#233308    

Mid-Major Madness story on Holy Cross:

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/9/24/16354114...

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09-28-17 12:05 PM - Post#233309    

Poster on Holy Cross board explains Bucknell basketball success:
"Bucknell no hockey not fighting a two-front war. Basketball featured winter sport."

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09-28-17 12:50 PM - Post#233319    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Poster on Holy Cross board explains Bucknell basketball success:
"Bucknell no hockey not fighting a two-front war. Basketball featured winter sport."



Bad coaching, no Admin support, antiquated facilities, etc.
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11-12-17 09:10 AM - Post#235968    

Navy beat a very poor Pitt team, Loyola only lost by 4 points to #19 Northwestern.

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11-12-17 10:43 AM - Post#235979    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Navy beat a very poor Pitt team, Loyola only lost by 4 points to #19 Northwestern.


And Lafayette only lost by two to George Mason. Navy plays at Miami today.
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11-14-17 08:46 PM - Post#236339    

Monmouth up 12 over Lehigh with 5 to play. Lehigh's freshman center looks decent. They also have Pat Andre back. Still don't think they'll break the top 3 in the PL.
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11-14-17 09:16 PM - Post#236347    

Monmouth ended up winning 80-72 at Lehigh. Monmouth had 27 turnovers vs 9 for LU, but they outrebounded LU 53-24.

In other games, LC had a bad loss to a weak NJIT team, Loyola lost at Fairfield, and Army blew out the always tough John Jay College of Criminal Justice. Army used 20 players in that game.



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11-16-17 11:32 PM - Post#236757    

Very nice win for Holy Cross tonight: 73-69 over Harvard in Worcester. Colgate beat Cornell.
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11-16-17 11:39 PM - Post#236759    

Holy Cross has now beaten Harvard four straight years - all as an underdog - after a very long losing streak to them.



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11-17-17 09:12 PM - Post#236834    

Lafayette down 40 early in the 2nd at Villanova. Can they keep the margin under 50? Loyola gets spanked by Towson 95-72. Lehigh & Sienna down to the wire in OT.
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11-18-17 01:15 PM - Post#236859    

Lehigh ended up beating Siena 91-90 in OT. Siena was victimized by a fast clock at the end. Siena got the ball back with 3.34 seconds left, but buzzer went off within 3.1 seconds, before they could get a shot off. Looks like the clock may have started - incorrectly - when a missed FT hit the rim.



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11-25-17 03:09 PM - Post#237571    

Holy Cross stayed close to a good Albany team for much of the game but got blitzed down the stretch. Albany on fire from three. Final 78-62.

Colgate leads Columbia at home. They have been playing very well. And Lehigh is down by nine points at a weak Pitt team. I thought they had a reasonable shot to win that one.



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11-25-17 04:20 PM - Post#237579    

  • Bison137 Said:


Colgate leads Columbia at home. They have been playing very well. And Lehigh is down by nine points at a weak Pitt team. I thought they had a reasonable shot to win that one.




Lehigh lost to Pitt 80-68. It was 72-69 with just over 3 minutes left - but LU missed their last 8 shots. And Colgate beat Columbia at home 77-71.



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11-26-17 07:27 AM - Post#237905    

Navy was beaten badly by FGCU. Shot very poorly, including a lot of missed layups and 2-18 from 3.


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11-29-17 10:27 AM - Post#238290    

Loyola has lost two close road games that they would have won if healthy. They are missing All-PL PG Andre Walker, who went down with some sort of injury two games ago, and also missing Chancellor Barnard, who is out for the season with a torn pectoral muscle.

Here is how the OOC games have gone for the league, as compiled by SOV on the HC site:


The PL is currently 24-33 against non-conference opponents, and ranked #21 as a conference by Ken Pomeroy.

Tuesday's game:

Loyola 63, Dartmouth 64

American (2-3): L Kansas State, L West Virginia, L Wagner, W New Hampshire, W VMI

Army (3-2): L Hofstra, W John Jay, W Marist, W Columbia, L Niagara

Boston U (2-3): L Northeastern, L Albany, L Connecticut, W Maine, W Wheaton

Bucknell (3-4): L Monmouth, L Arkansas, L North Carolina, L Maryland, W Siena, W Ball State, W Stony Brook

Colgate (3-2): L Connecticut, W Cornell, W UMBC, L Boston College, W Columbia

Holy Cross (2-3): W Sacred Heart, W Harvard, L Rhode Island, L Fairleigh Dickinson, L Albany

Lafayette (0-5): L George Mason, L NJIT, L Villanova, L Princeton, L St. Peter's

Lehigh (3-3): W Marist, L Monmouth, W Siena, W Eastern, L USC, L Pittsburgh

Loyola (1-5): L Northwestern, L Fairfield, L Towson, W Goucher, L UMass Lowell, L Dartmouth

Navy (5-3): W Pittsburgh, L Miami (FL), L Pennsylvania, W Bryant, W Washington College, W St. Francis NY, L FGCU, W Denver

MAC: 1-0
Southern: 1-0
Summit: 1-0
America East: 4-3
Ivy League: 4-3
NEC: 3-2
MAAC: 4-5
ACC: 1-4
Big East: 0-1
Pac-12: 0-1
SEC: 0-1
American: 0-2
Atlantic Sun: 0-2
Atlantic 10: 0-2
Big Ten: 0-2
Big 12: 0-2
Colonial: 0-3

Non-D1: 5-0



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12-01-17 05:12 PM - Post#238714    

Was talking with a friend and he was telling me about a free score update/messaging app called Scorestream. If fans want to chat/message during games that looks like a possibility.
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12-01-17 10:29 PM - Post#238726    

  • MrPhillie Said:
Was talking with a friend and he was telling me about a free score update/messaging app called Scorestream. If fans want to chat/message during games that looks like a possibility.




I would be interested in trying that for some away games if there is enough interest.


Meanwhile, there were three PL games today:

1. HC was blown out by Manhattan in Northern Ireland.

2. Army, who was a slight favorite, beat UMBC at home by 11 points. Tommy Funk, Andrew's brother, led Army in scoring.

3. Navy, who was a slight favorite, beat Delaware at home by 6 points. Bryce Dulin had a career-high 30 points for the Mids, and Shawn Anderson had 20.



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12-02-17 11:59 AM - Post#238744    

Lehigh on ACC Net now (noon) vs UVA
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12-02-17 04:30 PM - Post#238759    

Colgate blew a late lead at Binghamton with a 4+ minute scoreless stretch. Now down 11 under a minute. Show has 19 points including an individual 7-0 run.
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12-03-17 08:46 PM - Post#238924    

Pomeroy's current projections of wins for the PL season:

Bucknell 14.1
Army 11.2
Colgate 10.3
Navy 10.0
Lehigh 9.9
Boston U 8.1
Loyola MD 6.9
Lafayette 6.6
American 6.5
Holy Cross 6.5


I would expect Army and maybe LC to end up with fewer wins. Also I expect Boston U, maybe American (assuming good health), and maybe HC to get more. As for Loyola, if they get healthy, I'd vote for more wins. But if Walker is out for the year, I'd expect less than 6.9.

Some might be surprised at the thought of American winning 7 or more games - especially given their current 2-5 record - but I think that record may be misleading, with several factors possibly making them better than was expected. First, their very good sophomore center Mark Gasperini has yet to play due to a concussion. Secondly, their transfer SF Larry Motuzis is averaging 17.9 ppg with a very good FG pct. Also their FOY candidate, SF Sam Iorio, has missed recent games due to illness. And juco transfer Cheikh Diallo has been giving them good minutes - perhaps more than was expected.



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12-06-17 09:04 PM - Post#239362    

The other 8 PL teams (besides BU & BU) are playing tonight. Navy is the only winner so far. Everyone else lost or is trailing.
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12-06-17 09:49 PM - Post#239404    

Colgate hit a 3/4 court length shot at the buzzer which would have beaten Marist; however, it came 0.1 or 0.2 seconds too late.
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12-06-17 11:55 PM - Post#239448    

  • BreakinBison Said:
Colgate hit a 3/4 court length shot at the buzzer which would have beaten Marist; however, it came 0.1 or 0.2 seconds too late.





On that play, Marist was inbounding with 0.6 seconds left. They threw a pass out just beyond halfcourt that was intercepted by Colgate guard Sean O'Brien. He put up a shot that hit nothing but net. But it's hard, in less than 0.6 seconds, to catch a pass coming at you from under the basket and then build up enough momentum to reach that basket from almost 50 feet away. The refs reviewed the video and decided the shot was released after the buzzer.

Video: https://twitter.com/ColgateMBB/status/938 599421306...



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12-09-17 03:37 PM - Post#239777    

Colgate staying close at Syracuse late.
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12-19-17 10:25 PM - Post#240622    

  • Bison137 Said:
Pomeroy's current projections of wins for the PL season:

Bucknell 14.1
Army 11.2
Colgate 10.3
Navy 10.0
Lehigh 9.9
Boston U 8.1
Loyola MD 6.9
Lafayette 6.6
American 6.5
Holy Cross 6.5


I would expect Army and maybe LC to end up with fewer wins. Also I expect Boston U, maybe American (assuming good health), and maybe HC to get more. As for Loyola, if they get healthy, I'd vote for more wins. But if Walker is out for the year, I'd expect less than 6.9.






Updated Pomeroy projections for PL wins:


bucknell . 14.0
army . . 11.7
navy . . 10.5
colgate . 10.3
lehigh . 10.0
boston . 7.9
lafayette 6.6
loyola . 6.5
holy cross 6.3
american 6.2


Army beat Air Force by 25 points Sunday to advance their stock. And Navy had an away win vs Columbia the same day. Holy Cross lost by 14 points tonight at home to a hot-shooting Iona team.

Btw, Andre Walker has returned from injury, so Loyola may be stronger than their record suggests. They are still missing Andrew Kostecka - not sure of his injury - and they lost Chancellor Barnard for the year.



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12-21-17 08:14 AM - Post#240888    

Bonnies wiped Northeastern
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12-21-17 11:38 AM - Post#240941    

Wiped or Whipped?
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12-21-17 12:04 PM - Post#240947    

Wiped...equivalent to "schooled" or in the immortal words of one Kevin Pollins...long ago of Dewitt Clinton H.S. in the Bronx. the Bonnies "served them...served them all"
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12-21-17 05:07 PM - Post#240985    

With Thomas averaging almost 23 points per game (22.9), I was wondering when the last time was that a Bison came out of the OOC portion of the schedule averaging 20+ points per game? I cannot remember anybody in recent memory.
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12-21-17 05:32 PM - Post#240987    

  • Bison89 Said:
With Thomas averaging almost 23 points per game (22.9), I was wondering when the last time was that a Bison came out of the OOC portion of the schedule averaging 20+ points per game? I cannot remember anybody in recent memory.





I imagine it's Chris Simpson in 1993-94. He averaged 20.5 ppg for the entire season on a very high-scoring team. That team, for example, had six games with 98+ points. If it wasn't Simpson, then the next possible candidate would be Patrick King, who averaged over 20 ppg his senior year. Muscala, btw, didn't come close to a 20 ppg average in OOC play.


Here's one item of trivia: The last PL player to average 22 or more ppg for a full season was Brett Eppenheimer (Lehigh) in 1997-98. It was never done by McCollum, Muscala, Kempton, Sprink, etc. I doubt Zach can sustain that pace either - especially if they get some blow-out PL games where he plays limited minutes.



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12-21-17 09:01 PM - Post#240997    

Loyola gets a much needed win over Drexel. Navy, Boston, Lehigh, & American all lose.
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12-21-17 09:38 PM - Post#240999    

Loyola is finally getting healthier. Walker is back and now Kostecka has returned as well. Cam Gregory had 16 rebounds tonight - averaging about 10 rpg for the year. Despite their record, I think Loyola will be very competitive in most league games.



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12-22-17 04:32 PM - Post#241048    

This is a stunner. Wofford did what the Bison couldn't.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/...

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12-28-17 08:03 PM - Post#241488    

As we head into league season, here is a highlight package of one of the most remarkable PL games of all time - Army coming from 25 points back in the final 12 minutes to win at Navy in the star game. Andrew Funk's brother was in for most of it.

https://twitter.com/GoArmyWestPoint/statu s/9464406...



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12-29-17 09:31 PM - Post#241603    

Boston wins handily over Army at home.
Lehigh struggled at Lafayette, but pulled out a 5 point win.
Colgate pulled away in the 2nd half to win at Holy Cross.
Loyola upset Navy by 9 at home.
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01-05-18 08:47 PM - Post#242218    

Lafayette upsets Colgate in Hamilton. Loyola leading Boston at home.
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01-05-18 09:03 PM - Post#242221    

Loyola hangs on to win. Bison are tied for 1st again. Seven teams tied at 2-1.
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01-05-18 10:40 PM - Post#242235    

Holy Cross led 19-3 at Lehigh before losing, falling to 0-3, 3-11.

In a familiar theme, according to more than one logic-challenged poster at Crossports, the Crusaders' poor performance in the Patriot League springs from the fact that the Crusaders are in the Patriot League.

Declared one of them: "The Patriot League is holding this team back."

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01-05-18 11:26 PM - Post#242240    

Yes, the illogic continues to rise to new levels.

Having said that, there are a lot of HC posters who recognize that the PL is not responsible for their nine years of mediocre (or worse) W-L records.



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01-05-18 11:41 PM - Post#242241    

Lehigh's 6-7 PF Ed Porter is reportedly academically ineligible for the upcoming semester. That effectively leaves LU with only eight players - unless one of their two injured centers miraculously becomes a contributor. Worse, they now only have one interior player - freshman center James Karnik, who has been quite good so far.

Porter was a juco transfer, and it appears Lehigh was afraid they would take some flak for bringing in a recruit from a junior college. When he signed, their press release noted his HS GPA and his Juco GPA - both of which mean nothing without a lot of context. "Porter is a junior college transfer, who just graduated from Florida Southwestern State College. Strong in the classroom, Porter posted a 3.8 GPA this past year and was a strong student coming out of high school (4.1 GPA)."




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01-07-18 11:03 PM - Post#242632    

Navy at Colgate tips at 5. I guess they didn’t want to compete with the college football championship?
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01-07-18 11:16 PM - Post#242633    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Navy at Colgate tips at 5. I guess they didn’t want to compete with the college football championship?





I assume you're being a bit facetious since the crowd is likely to be near zero no matter when the game starts and whether it is up against the football championship game or a local curling match. One possible explanation is that Navy starts classes the next morning and they wanted to get back at a halfway reasonable hour. It is a 6-hour bus ride - assuming they don't have some way to take a flight home. Army and Navy, btw, start second semester classes significantly earlier than the eight other PL schools.



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01-08-18 11:10 AM - Post#242685    

Also, they are calling for an ice storm that will leave a coating ice on roads in NJ starting sometime this afternoon. The Midshipmen probably want to leave ASAP.

BTW, if they never played this game, would anybody know?
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01-11-18 02:29 PM - Post#243029    

Lafayette led Army 45-26 early in the second half - at West Point. From that point on, they were outscored 55-26, losing by ten. The difference in the game was turnovers: Lafayette had 18, Army had 6.



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01-17-18 09:24 PM - Post#243880    

Games tonight:

American 69 Boston U 58 @ Boston
Holy Cross 70 Army 66 @ HC
Navy 75 Lafayette 72 @LC
Colgate 76 Lehigh 72

- Colgate led LU 50-22 late in the first half; outscored 50-26 the rest of the way, but held on.

- Sam Iorio, AU's talented freshman forward, had 26 points. Boston had a 34-25 rebounding edge, but AU countered by having 12 turnovers to 21 for Boston.



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01-17-18 09:27 PM - Post#243881    

Current Standings:

Bucknell 6-1
Boston 5-2
Army 4-3
Colgate 4-3
Navy 4-3
Lehigh 3-4
Loyola 3-4
American 2-5
Holy Cross 2-5
Lafayette 2-5



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01-17-18 09:28 PM - Post#243882    

Woo hoo! back into 1st place. That Boston score is a shocker. I expected the other three games to be close.
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01-20-18 04:13 PM - Post#244214    

No churn at the top today, as Boston University, Army and Colgate all won.
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01-20-18 08:19 PM - Post#244259    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
No churn at the top today, as Boston University, Army and Colgate all won.



One bit of churn. Navy was tied for 3rd with Colgate and Army. Not only did they lose to Boston, but they did it at home. Unless Boston loses to LC on Wednesday while the Bison win at Navy, the Bison game next Saturday at Boston will be very big, possibly for tournament home court advantage.



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01-20-18 08:31 PM - Post#244262    

I’m a bit nervous for the game at Navy.
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01-20-18 09:25 PM - Post#244272    

  • MrPhillie Said:
I’m a bit nervous for the game at Navy.




I am also. Navy has underachieved somewhat in league play, but they have a very experienced team that was generally picked for 2nd or 3rd in various rankings. Note that I was wrong in my post above, however. They actually were one game out of 3rd entering today.

Hopefully the government shut-down won't affect Navy's athletic program, as it has that of Air Force, who cancelled multiple games today. I would hate to have to make up a cancelled Navy game by cramming it into the schedule later in the year.



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01-20-18 10:00 PM - Post#244278    

  • Bison137 Said:
  • MrPhillie Said:
I’m a bit nervous for the game at Navy.




I am also. Navy has underachieved somewhat in league play, but they have a very experienced team that was generally picked for 2nd or 3rd in various rankings. Note that I was wrong in my post above, however. They actually were one game out of 3rd entering today.






I take back my correction. I was right the first time about Navy's spot in the standings. The PL website is wrong, claiming incorrectly that Navy has five league losses. They will probably figure it out eventually.



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01-20-18 10:04 PM - Post#244280    

  • Bison137 Said:
Unless Boston loses to LC on Wednesday while the Bison win at Navy, the Bison game next Saturday at Boston will be very big, possibly for tournament home court advantage.

*Sunday, noon tip

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01-20-18 10:08 PM - Post#244283    

The Navy announcers made it sound like Tom Lacey was playing at less than 100%, Wieck also seems to have a lingering shoulder injury but seemed fine.
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01-20-18 10:17 PM - Post#244286    

  • SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
The Navy announcers made it sound like Tom Lacey was playing at less than 100%, Wieck also seems to have a lingering shoulder injury but seemed fine.




Lacey sprained his ankle near the end of their last OOC game December 21st. He then missed their first league game but returned, albeit for limited minutes, the next game. However, he is averaging 33 mpg the last two weeks, so I doubt he is much less than 100%, although it may still be bothering him somewhat. Of course at this time of the year, a lot of players are performing with nagging injuries.






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