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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-28-17 09:55 PM - Post#238234
Tough loss to Lehigh last year on the road as Tim Kempton did the same thing to the Tigers in game #2 that Mika did at BYU. Kempton and Price have graduated but Lehigh fields a competitive team. Lost a very tight game with 3 minutes to go at Pitt several days ago. Guard oriented team that penetrates and then kicks it out if they are blocked on the way to the basket. The PG, a senior, reminds one of Chambers, left hander, although he is a better finishe and scorer -- missed last year's game although his freshmen replacement scored 20 pts and killed the Tigers. They have a good big 6'11" freshmen who had 15 pts against Pitt but they play small not big. Coach has been there 11 years and Lehigh has winning seasons over the past 9 years including famous upset against Duke as #15 seed with McCollum. Will not be an easy game as they are better than FDU, play hard and are well coached. Defense and rebounding is an issue based on their size. They allowed 3 pt shots against Pitt and USC. Tigers will probably be a home favorite. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-28-17 10:20 PM - Post#238239
Their coach (Dr. somebody if I recall) always puts a good product on the floor. They've battled Bucknell at the top of the Patriot the last couple of years. The Tigers should try to be physical without fouling and dominate the boards, while at least holding their own on turnovers. Ideally, I'd like to see a little more enterprise on steal attempts and deflections. Don't know what kind of defenders this year's Mountain Hawks are. Do they have an answer for Stephens? As usual this part of the season, Princeton needs to transform from a "Big Three plus the others" into a true team, as MH has said. Wonder if Gladson will be available. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-28-17 11:31 PM - Post#238247
 Lehigh does not have one player that is a match for Stephens so he may be able to take a shorter defender deep. Most athletic defender may be Leufroy 6'3" but tough kid. Besides the 6'11" center, they have a 6'8" 3 pt shooter who has not been shooting well. The challenge will be on Cannady and Bell defensively based on their guard play and the Center.Stephens does need to start making some 3 pt shots as it will really open up his game to the basket. He has a funky form on his 3 pointers but he has a soft shot. Major challenge is the team plays hard and tough for Lehigh coach, Dr. ???. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 02:23 AM - Post#238255
Now I remember his name! He's almost the Green Hornet--Brett Reed. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2274 
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11-29-17 09:16 AM - Post#238278
Do they have an answer for Stephens? I thought BYU did the best job: a quick double on Stephens in the paint or along the baseline. He did not do a good job of recognizing the double and dishing. Other teams have tried doubling down, but did not execute as well. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-29-17 01:59 PM - Post#238310
I completely agree. BYU forced Stephens into the big guy, Childs, who put his hands straight up and made it very difficult to finish. Stephens can counter with the really effective fall away jump shot in the lane and also hitting some 3 pointers. Stephens is tough and talented but is still in the learning mode but we are fortunate to have him. Coach even said that Myles had a bad game against BYU. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 07:04 PM - Post#238347
Perhaps MH should keep giving Aririguzoh solid minutes. According to Much, it was Aririguzoh's intensity that got him fired up and ready to go against Lafayette. There's the kind of complementarity that might play hob with overly simple analytics: “I was feeding off of Richmond [Aririguzoh] because he brought such an intensity to the game,†said freshman forward Much of his sophomore teammate. “I didn’t play much in the first half, but that didn’t matter; Richmond kept everyone on their feet because everyone was always clapping for him.†In the second half, people were clapping for Much when he poured in 10 points to spark a 17-5 run as Princeton pulled away to a 60-46 win over the Leopards before a crowd of 1,575 at Jadwin Gym. “I just did my job, made open shots, and tried to play hard and keep up with Richmond’s intensity,†said Much, reflecting on his outburst. http://www.towntopics.com/wordpress/2017/11/29/ get... |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-29-17 08:40 PM - Post#238379
Glad son and Barnes warming up. Will see if they play. Tigers look bigger and more athletic but Lehigh looks quick. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-29-17 09:12 PM - Post#238405
Slow start - poor defense. Glad son coming in. Stephens slow start - Cannady is going good. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 09:12 PM - Post#238407
Lehigh driving through and shooting over the Tigers with ease early on. Tigers down 6-12, Stephens with a painful miss on a breakaway and Lehigh getting the good shots while Princeton has hit three mid-range jumpers without taking a trey or layup. Not a good start. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 09:20 PM - Post#238416
Lehigh finally has a few bad possessions after getting to 20. Tigers miss a couple of bunnies and a Cannady trey. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 09:22 PM - Post#238420
I think the tide is about to turn with Princeton down 7 around 11:45 left in the first half. Much and Gladson doing a lot to improve Princeton's ball movement and clogging the lane a bit. Stephens very quiet so far. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 09:26 PM - Post#238422
What the hell are the Tigers doing on offense? Its 4 guys standing around the perimter and one guy trying (and failing) to score. Defense just as awful. Worst half of the season. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 09:28 PM - Post#238423
Much and Gladson were hustling, moving without the ball and passing. But when they left the game the Tigers just stopped moving. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-29-17 09:30 PM - Post#238426
Tigers putting out midget team to offset quickness. Not sure if right strategy - will see. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 09:30 PM - Post#238427
I was wrong. Gladson and Much went out and the D went back in the dumper. Lehigh getting threes and layups almost unmolested, while the Tigers are focused on exploiting size mismatches with brute force and are getting decent but not great looks (at least they made a few). Savage is wrong--they should go back to hitting cutters and moving the ball and let the driving lanes open up. And they need to do something to break Lehigh's offensive rhythm, preferably forcing some TOs. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 09:37 PM - Post#238432
Not a good night to suck at the line. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 09:39 PM - Post#238433
I can't believe what I am watching. Mitch would have every right to blow his stack again if the Tigers don't tighten up and help on D, run some stuff on O other than ineffective hero ball, and make some damn FTs. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 09:41 PM - Post#238434
Can't buy a trey, but at least they've taken some good shots. D is horrible--either guys are wide open at the arc or else they drive into the lane at will. Morales not bad out there, Schweger OK but not good enough, Bell not scoring or getting stops, Cannady off the mark. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 09:43 PM - Post#238437
Can't stand the hero ball. Just pass the damn rock! |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 09:47 PM - Post#238439
Stephens not looking for teammates at all after starting a move. And then giving Lehigh another open trey at the end of the half is not forgivable. Wow, a terrible showing by guys who could be so much better. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 09:48 PM - Post#238440
Down 22 at the half. Were they looking ahead to Miami? This is just a very disappointing basketball team right now. Tigers 0-10 from 3, 5-10 on FT in 1st half. And Lehigh is getting all the easy looks it wants and making most of them. |
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Eric Von Zipper Senior Posts 343 |
11-29-17 09:50 PM - Post#238441
Might be the worst half of the decade. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 09:51 PM - Post#238442
Worst half of basketball since the Joe Scott abominations. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-29-17 09:51 PM - Post#238443
Tigers came off the court stunned. Looking for Weiss,Cook and Miller. Where are they? Leadership??? |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 09:55 PM - Post#238446
Obviously, the 22 point margin blown up by Lehigh over-achieving from three (6-11) and Princeton underachieving (0-10). But still, too many open looks and ORs (4 on 13 missed FGs) for Lehigh. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:09 PM - Post#238447
Tigers so bad they temporarily broke this board. But then Cannady with three amazing swish threes cuts the lead down to 16 from 22. Just need some stops. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:11 PM - Post#238448
A little ball pressure in the half court works wonders. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:14 PM - Post#238449
The double-team on Karnik works again, Cannady gets the loose ball and is fouled on the fast-break drive. Maybe he can hit a FT as the rest of the team is below 50%. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:18 PM - Post#238451
much more energy in the 2nd half so far. lead down to 14. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:19 PM - Post#238452
but then bell blows the layup, myles dribbles into trouble and turns it over again. uggh. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:22 PM - Post#238454
PU showing more energy, but bordering on frantic on offense. Have Lehigh at 6 team fouls early, so driving is good, but must show some discretion. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:22 PM - Post#238455
gotta stop dribbling into trouble and remember there are four other guys on the court to throw the ball to |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:24 PM - Post#238457
Lead down to 13. Much more energy on defense. Just wish there was more to the offense then dribbling into trouble and hoping for a foul. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:26 PM - Post#238459
Morales and LeBlanc are definitely bothering Lehigh by getting steals and deflections and ORs right now. Stephens is laboring a bit but still made a pretty amazing drive. I agree that the low assist rate for the Tigers is concerning. It seems like the refs, having put Lehigh in the bonus early, are determined not to issue that seventh foul. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:28 PM - Post#238460
Hello Jose Morales! Lead down to 8! |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-29-17 10:28 PM - Post#238461
Cannady and morales — heart! |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:29 PM - Post#238462
Love Morales's moxie and speed. MH may prefer big guards, but sometimes it takes a thief to catch a thief when dealing with quick opposing short guys. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:31 PM - Post#238464
Leblanc having a tough couple of minutes... |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2274
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11-29-17 10:32 PM - Post#238465
Worst half of basketball since the Joe Scott abominations. No need to get scatological. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:33 PM - Post#238466
Sorry. Moment of weakness there... |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:36 PM - Post#238468
Cannady called for the carry. Can't seem to keep it under 10, much less push it to five or so. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:37 PM - Post#238469
Need to stay disciplined. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:37 PM - Post#238470
I said that and then Sweiger dribbled it off his foot out of bounds. come on! |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:40 PM - Post#238471
How many times can I say this tonight: I can not stand what Princeton's offense has become. Where is Pete???!!! |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:44 PM - Post#238473
Much in the corner for THREEEEE! Lead down to 5 with 3:45 to play. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:45 PM - Post#238475
Nothing cleanses the palate like trey, force a turnover, trey. Especially when both swish and look perfect from launch. |
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Eric Von Zipper Senior Posts 343 |
11-29-17 10:56 PM - Post#238476
They are called "free throws". If they made them, they would have won. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 10:57 PM - Post#238478
Yeah, 15-25 from the line is not going to cut it. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 10:58 PM - Post#238479
Tigers pull to within 2 in the second half but can't get it done. Bell can't hit a 3 to save his life at the end and Lehigh does the job at the FT line. The inexcusable uncontested 3 at the end of the 1st half did not help and the FT shooting was disgraceful. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-29-17 10:59 PM - Post#238480
Yeah, the Quakers were fortunate that 30 for 50 from the line vs Monmouth let them escape with a 4OT victory. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 11:02 PM - Post#238481
Tigers need to put Much and Morales in the starting line up. Without them on the floor there was no energy. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 11:03 PM - Post#238482
Definite lack of defensive consistency shown by the team, both within and across possessions. That's why their standard make-them-throw-another-p butt approach isn't working--they're OK for a while, but then a breakdown occurs. When they pressure the ball it shortens the possessions and gets the other team out of its rhythm--Morales was really good at that tonight. Bell played terrific D the second half, too. But short, quick Lehigh guards switched onto Much or another big did not work out well. And I just cannot get used to watching a Princeton team fail to move the ball on offense. They look like a caricature of 1970s NBA at times, all dribbles and isos. Let the one-on-ones come off of ball and player movement, when the defense is out of position. Either old-school Princeton or new-jack NBA. Right now they seem more talented but less synergistic offensively than in years past. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 11:04 PM - Post#238483
TigerFan, Aririguzoh also gave energy but disappeared from the rotation. |
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Eric Von Zipper Senior Posts 343 |
11-29-17 11:17 PM - Post#238484
Saint Peter's just defeated Fairleigh Dickinson by 25. UGH! |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3666 |
11-29-17 11:43 PM - Post#238487
Pretty pathetic effort. There needs to be a players-only team meeting to get them fired up. Part of me thinks this malaise has something to do with the conference tourney, which I still totally support. Unless you're gunning for an at-large big, which this year's team isn't, these games lose their energy. I just hope they build up some momentum before league play. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-29-17 11:50 PM - Post#238489
They look like a caricature of 1970s NBA at times, all dribbles and isos. This is exactly what I said to my wife tonight during the game. How have we possibly gone this far off the rails? MH has done a great job recruiting and he did a masterful job keeping last year's team focused throughout a long run through the Ivies but he has either lost control of the team or (worse) he has created an ugly mess. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-29-17 11:52 PM - Post#238490
To be fair, a version of this "ugly mess" style offense went undefeated last year in Ivy play and almost knocked off Notre Dame. But Weisz played a huge role in moving the defense with his passing prior to guys going to the isos and post-ups, so they generally did it starting with an advantage and with help out of position. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-29-17 11:55 PM - Post#238491
I agree regarding Morales and Much. My suggestions which are probably wrong would be the following. Amir Bell is a wonderful young man but I do not believe that he has strong leadership skills even though he has taken on the role of Spencer Weisz. During the course of the year, I would turn to Devin to take over the team as he has the will to win just like Weisz and Cook -- they neeed it. As to rotation, I would go thru growing pains and go with the following: Guards -- Cannady, Bell and Morales -- no more Young Forwards -- Stephens, Much and I would go more athletic with Desrosiers and/or Barnes as a back up. I would not play Schweiger or Leblanc much as they are simply not quick enough --- sad for Leblanc Center -- Arirguzoh, Much and occasionally Gladson but not too much as he is simply too slow of foot and does not hit open 3 pointers. Brennan no more Coach needs to sit down with Stephens. He has lost some confidence and he is not shutting down the opposing team. Played a lot harder in the 2nd half but he needs to step up defensively for 35 minutes. My thought is to go young -- make mistakes but play guys who can conceivably get you to the next level. The old Princeton offense probably does not work with this group so go athletic. Finally, Cannady is simply a player -- he will become or is the heart and soul of this team. He is ferocious not particularly a great defender but a winner. Ride him for as long as you can -- he will not disappoint. I am probably wrong but sometimes, you need to take a step back to go two steps forward. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
11-30-17 12:20 AM - Post#238492
TigerFan, Aririguzoh also gave energy but disappeared from the rotation. Agreed. In fact, I think the wheels started coming off when Richmond left and Brennan came into the game... |
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JadwinGeorge Senior Posts 357 |
11-30-17 01:47 AM - Post#238493
Just got home after witnessing the debacle. Someone earlier asked, "Wheres's Pete????" I sat next to him through the entire sad display. To suggest that he was dismayed by what he saw would be a gross understatement. Yesterday was the annual Athletic Give Day, which raised about 2.5 million for Tiger sports in 24 hours, over 100k for basketball. One prominent alum was heard at halftime to wonder aloud if he could get his $5000 back. I'm not sure he was kidding. |
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Vonsid Sophomore Posts 145 |
11-30-17 02:25 AM - Post#238496
2.5 mil and only 100kish to basketball? That's pretty pathetic actually. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-30-17 05:28 AM - Post#238497
It's sort of hard to evaluate individuals when the problems appear team related. For example, Gladson made the ball move better than anyone else tonight, playing out of the high post and looking for teammates and hitting them on the move (unfortunately a blown layup on his best pass). But if they don't cut without the ball, that style isn't as effective. Morales had the best ball pressure on D, but until the rest of the team felt the urgency and got up on their men it wasn't that effective because it was easy to pass out of that discomfort. The coaching decisions that I think MH needs to make are a commitment to moving the ball before going one-on-one and more defensive harassment around the ball by a variety of means. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-30-17 09:08 AM - Post#238504
Just to comment on SRP's observation of "1970s NBA" as being all iso's, that's about 20 years off. The '70s were the decade of the Knicks with Frazier, Bradley, Reed and Co, always moving the ball....the Celtics with Cowens similarly moving, etc. The iso's occurred 20 years later with Ewing, Jordan, and those guys. |
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jeromelh Junior Posts 215 |
11-30-17 09:12 AM - Post#238505
I believe that MH is trying to find the correct 5 players to put on the court. This team is going to get a lot better. We just have to patient. I am excited about Much. I don't know if you noticed, but he is an excellent passer. He is going to be a star in the league. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2274
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11-30-17 09:27 AM - Post#238507
Amir Bell is a wonderful young man but I do not believe that he has strong leadership skills even though he has taken on the role of Spencer Weisz. Hmm. I agree with this and your other observations, but what to do? Lots of thoughts floating through my mind. Bell SHOULD be the on court leader of this team with his talent and experience, but he hasn't stepped up. But turning the team over to Cannady would only diminish his energy for his 3 point shooting, and further expose his only average passing skills. Instead, I think coach needs to challenge Bell to keep pushing the ball and keep shooting. He has hesitated to shoot the 3, so when he had a wide open 3 at the end of the game, he missed. Sitting Stephens might not have the desired effect--not everyone responds as well as Bell did last year to being benched for a while. I assume Gladson will find his stroke, but honestly I mostly missed Aririguzoh last night. Any explanation why he got so little PT? I was more dismayed by the defense in the first half than the offense, even though the offense was horrible. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-30-17 09:52 AM - Post#238510
Your last sentence - dead on - defense comes first. Last year's team experienced an awakening after the St. Joe's team. This year's team, younger, may not happen but it is early. The experience of watching how well, gritty and tough last year's played is a testament to the coaches and players including Weisz, Cook and Miller. Amazingly, the IL as a whole has not progressed this year. There are brief moments but it has been an unimpressive start. Amazingly, Yale seems to be digging in its' heels which is a testament to Coach Jones and Oni seems to be stepping up - another 2 star recruit. Cornell, Brown, sometimes Penn and Columbia show flashes and Harvard will probably gets it act together but so far, the League as a whole, certainly including Princeton, is unimpressive. The only bright spot for the Tigers may be the level of play of league teams in qualifying to play in March at the Palestra -- sad but true? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-30-17 10:06 AM - Post#238514
Princeton in particular, lost critical players to graduation, Harvard is young, Yale has been devastated by injuries and Penn is trying to step up a level. It's early. Far too early to read into how the best Ivy teams will be playing in February. |
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JadwinGeorge Senior Posts 357 |
11-30-17 10:40 AM - Post#238526
The "awakening" is rather simple to explain, at least after the fact. Henry Caruso decided to leave the team (a sinking ship at that point) to preserve a year of D1 eligibility in CA, clearing the way for Myles Stephens. At almost the same time Amir Bell's play returned to "normal". The rotation now set, the League schedule lay ahead. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2274
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11-30-17 11:23 AM - Post#238536
Much may prove to be a Cook replacement--shoot the 3 or go strong to the hoop. Gladson/Aririguzoh could possibly replace Miller. But who is the team leader with the ball in his hands? (The Weisz replacement.) I would like to see Stephens in that role, but he needs to start shooting the 3 with confidence, and dishing off the double. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
11-30-17 11:56 AM - Post#238547
Post game interview with Henderson and Cannady was interesting. Henderson was disgusted/outraged as he singled out the lack of effort -- time for the team to wake up. Tigers have gotten off to a slow start two years in a row. Coach should stop with the platitudes preseason, i.e. media day, and keep these guys on their toes. On media day, he called Stephens a shutdown defender but he has not played like one. Cannady basically stated that he was disgusted with first half effort and he was not going to accept it. May be an important first step but why even the need. Old coach motto "Play confident but play scared about the other team". |
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westcoast Senior Posts 302 |
11-30-17 02:24 PM - Post#238573
On the offensive side, three point shooting has become a problem for this year's team (aside from Cannady, who has been incredible). Last year, Princeton had three high volume three-point shooters (>4 TPA/game) in Cannady, Cook, and Weisz, and two others in Stephens and Bell who would fire up 2-3 per game. This year, outside of Cannady's amazing 59%, the rest of the team is shooting only 29% on threes, and there was clear hesitation in taking open threes from Stephens, Bell, Schwieger, and others. The number of attempts per game has dropped from 26 to 22. Much (5-12, 42%), Brennan (3-6, 50%), and Morales (2-5, 40%) are the only other players shooting over 33% in the very small sample size so far. Princeton probably needs at least one more consistent, high volume outside shooter to step up - I think Much and Bell are probably the best bets. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-30-17 02:37 PM - Post#238574
A few thoughts in response: --This team still has huge upside. The talent is there, including the freshmen. I am still optimistic. --The new style of coaching nationally (apparently based on player/family expectations) is to be as upbeat as possible rather than critical and curmudgeonly. Hence it is only after visible failure that negative sentiment toward team and player effort and mental shortfalls can be expressed. --Bell has always been described by his coaches (high school and college) as a leader, someone who took the initiative to get other players to practice hard, etc. Last night he led by example at a minimum in the second half in shutting Lehigh down defensively. But when he misses layups and threes, he seems to lose offensive confidence and does not direct traffic very much, leading to some bad possessions. --Last year's resurgence was not merely a lineup change (and can we please stop the insinuations about the stalwart Henry Caruso's alleged scheming?). The team dramatically slowed its pace of play and became much faster and more consistent with help defense. --I agree with P38 that the '90s were an era of isos, but the Bulls' triangle and the Sonics and Jazz were pass-happy offenses. Similarly in the '70s, the best teams moved the ball a lot (also the 1975 Warriors champs), but there was a great contrast with run-of-the-mill play by the bilk of the league. |
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JadwinGeorge Senior Posts 357 |
11-30-17 04:12 PM - Post#238596
Gee whiz, I wasn't insinuating. I believe what I stated to be factual. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
11-30-17 04:40 PM - Post#238603
You are throwing shade without being specific and without evidence. He faked an injury? He had told MH he was transferring before the injury? The guy was not a touted recruit, helped save a lost season when MH finally inserted him into the lineup, refined his game to become a more efficient player, did a lot of the dirty work on the court, and played hurt. He wasn't losing PT until the injury. And he transferred to his Dad's school (to a worse team). The picture of him you are indeed insinuating doesn't match the public record. |
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JadwinGeorge Senior Posts 357 |
11-30-17 05:00 PM - Post#238606
The evidence I have supports what I have said. If I didn't have evidence I would not say it. The fact that he wanted to preserve a year of eligibility is not a big deal to me and it is not a criticism of the kid. I did not state that he "faked an injury." I don't know what the "public record" is on this case, and frankly it's not particularly relevant at this point. It is by no means unusual for a kid who is injured to leave a team to save eligibility. Denton Koon did it at Princeton. Rosenberg did it at Columbia.Koon graduated and played at Hofstra. A financial decision in my opinion. Rosenberg returned to Columbia because the financial issue was not a factor to him. I guess "throwing shade" is not a good thing. |
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Eric Von Zipper Senior Posts 343 |
11-30-17 10:11 PM - Post#238627
They are shooting 70.9% from the charity stripe; opponents 82.9%. Nuff said. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
12-01-17 09:05 AM - Post#238639
I'd happily take 71% over at the Palestra. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
12-01-17 05:40 PM - Post#238711
Going be another tough weekend for the IL in all likelihood with HYP playing top 25 teams. Yale is a 14pt undergo to #23 TCU, Harvard is 19 1/2 pt underdog to #7 Kentucky and Tigers will probably be a 20 pt underdog to #10 Miami. Needless to say, all teams on the road. It should be interesting if one of the teams can contest a game for at least the first half or more. Hopefully, you learn from facing challenges. Let's hope Tigers, Crimson and Bulldogs show some life. IL needs it. If not the IL Tournament team will have this type of opposition in the 1st round at the Big Dance. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
12-01-17 06:10 PM - Post#238713
Let's be optimistic and hope the Tigers were looking ahead to Miami before Wednesday's game and will put forth a good performance against the big boys in Florida. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2814 |
12-01-17 06:13 PM - Post#238715
The good news could be that Miami is not giving our game much thought 
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sparman PhD Student Posts 1346 
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 12-01-17 06:43 PM - Post#238718
Ah, but the Prince says the UM game will be on a "neutral" court. |
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