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bradley
Masters Student
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12-05-17 03:07 PM - Post#239126    

Interesting game as GWU plays 3 starters 6'7" or taller including co-A-10 player of the week, a 6'8" left hander who shoots a lot of 3s'. GWU has won 2 games in a row including a home court upset of Temple. They are 4-4 with their only losses to very good teams including XAVIER, Florida State etc. They strike me as a somewhat better but very different type of team than Lehigh and they will be playing at home.

Patrick Steeves, former Harvard player, is a starter averaging 10 pts per game and Mitola's brother is on GWU but does not get many minutes.

GWU does not shoot 3s' very well but they do not shoot them. Issue for the Tigers may be on the boards. GWU will be the home court favorite in all likelihood.

Should be a good test for the Tigers. I think Much and perhaps, Brennan, will get a fair amount of time based on GWU's size and 3 pt shooting.
HARVARDDADGRAD
PhD Student
Posts 1150
12-05-17 04:47 PM - Post#239132    

Steeves was an excellent 3pt shooter - 46%

Princeton owes him one for his season ending blocked shot at Lavietes.
LocalTiger
Pre-Frosh
Posts 2
12-05-17 05:35 PM - Post#239137    

Steeves has been awful from 3 for GW. He is crafty around the basket.
Guessing Watanabe will guard Myles; he may be too tall
for the match-up the other way, but is probably our best option.
Princeton is better coached and more experienced.
If we play 40 consistent minutes, we should get this one.
1LotteryPick1969
PhD Student
Posts 1483
1LotteryPick1969
12-05-17 08:52 PM - Post#239155    

Any word on Gladson or Morales?
Eric Von Zipper
Freshman
Posts 69
12-05-17 09:44 PM - Post#239170    

Temple let GW have the 3's, playing the percentages.

GW shot 9/16 56.3%

Difference in the game.
Eric Von Zipper
Freshman
Posts 69
12-05-17 09:46 PM - Post#239173    

Game opens Princeton +4.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 02:13 PM - Post#239235    

Early season mid-major ranking for Tigers as to degree of difficulty considering homecourt vs. road game, probably lines up as St. Joe's, GWU, Lehigh and finally Monmouth. So far, results have been disappointing especially the Lehigh home game but every game has its own unique flow/result.

The ultimate question is where Harvard, Yale and possibly Penn fit into the mix as a comparable. Time will tell.

GWU will be a very challenging match up -- Yuta Wantanabe is a match up problem for Tigers.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 05:59 PM - Post#239254    

Surprising to me, GW down at 165 on Kenpom, PU at 147. Tougher schedule and worse luck for the Tigers. Let's hope the threes go in today and Princeton wins the turnover battle.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:13 PM - Post#239262    

9-3 start with two Cannady and two Much buckets sounds pretty good.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:16 PM - Post#239263    

Brennan hook shot goes in. Love that.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:22 PM - Post#239265    

1-3-1 gets a steal by Schweger, but he gives it back with his second TO.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:25 PM - Post#239266    

Derosier hits a trey, much needed.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:27 PM - Post#239267    

Once again, unless PU forces a turnover the opponent is scoring almost every time. Lots of two-point jumpers.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:30 PM - Post#239268    

Getting real tired of Steeves.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:33 PM - Post#239269    

Down 7 with under five minutes left in the first half. MH time-out. Still not getting many stops.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 08:35 PM - Post#239271    

The dreaded inevitable Princeton cold spell, while GW's Bolden starts lighting it up.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:36 PM - Post#239272    

Two more missed layups...at least we got the charge from GW to get the ball back.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 08:37 PM - Post#239273    

This team can't make lay ups. Gotta finish!
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:37 PM - Post#239274    

An OR and a Schweger trey eases the pain.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:38 PM - Post#239275    

Stephens driving on the GW defensive ace for a layup is encouraging.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 08:41 PM - Post#239276    

Unforced turnovers killing us. Then another blown layup. Concentrate guys!
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 08:43 PM - Post#239277    

Cannady with the buzzer-beater over Watanabe. Only down 3 at the half.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 08:44 PM - Post#239278    

Unbelievable effort by Devin to create and nail a 3 at the end of half. Down 3.
Eric Von Zipper
Freshman
Posts 69
12-06-17 08:55 PM - Post#239279    

Cantabs down 8 at the break in Rose Hill.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 08:57 PM - Post#239280    

Tigers are playing good defense but the offense is struggling against a taller and athletic team. No Morales or Gladson --- please stop playing Young. Schweiger is a turnover machine as he is careless with the ball as is Brennan although Brennan is playing reasonably well.

Game is a classic example of really only having three maybe only 2 offensive threats, Cannady and Stephens. Weisz and Cook on the court with stronger backups were a very different team but it is what it is. GW assistant coach mentioned Stephens at halftime and he is playing well.

GW looks like a better team but maybe we can steal one -- maybe??? I would play Brennan, Much, Jerome and the big three in the second half with a little time for Schwieger if Tigers have a chance to win.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:01 PM - Post#239281    

Derosier trey again. Yes.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:02 PM - Post#239283    

Can't recover misses and blocks on D, GW ends up at the foul line after three chances on one possession.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:04 PM - Post#239284    

Back on top with a Cannady trey. Good thing GW turned it over a couple of times.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:05 PM - Post#239285    

Steeves making play after play for GW.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:06 PM - Post#239286    

Stephens missed two layups against Watanabe, then missed a trey. He has to keep working, but i wonder if he's forcing things some.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:09 PM - Post#239287    

Too many turnovers by the Tigers.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:10 PM - Post#239288    

Terrible pass by Brennan.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:10 PM - Post#239289    

Can't have this many unforced errors against an A10 team.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 09:11 PM - Post#239290    

True but problem is who is going to score. Bell goes into his offensive shell against mid-major teams.

Brennan and Young at it once again - sloppy ball handling. Schwieger in also -- ouch.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:11 PM - Post#239291    

Hate to say it but I cringe whenever Brennan enters the game.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:14 PM - Post#239293    

Cut it to one, then allow GW to pull ahead by six. Get a stop!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:14 PM - Post#239294    

Losing a lot of rebounds we shouldn't tonight.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:15 PM - Post#239295    

Clear drop off when Brennan, Young and Sweiger came into the game.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 09:16 PM - Post#239297    

Agree but he is not close to Young and Schweiger. Coach cannot put Brennan, Young and Schweiger on the floor at the same time but he does and lead increases for GW.

Cannady -- heart and ability!!

Where is Arirguzoh??
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:18 PM - Post#239299    

More TOs than assists for the Togers tonight. Hate to see that.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:20 PM - Post#239302    

I'd like to see the+/- stats by player. Seems like big drop offs when starters (now including Much and Desrosiers) come out
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:20 PM - Post#239303    

Stephens still punching, hits on a drive to cut it back to six. Steeves again with the OR! Tie his shoelaces together or something.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:21 PM - Post#239304    

Uggh. Second chance points by GW.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:21 PM - Post#239305    

Let's see if Stephens' dunk fires up the Tigers.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:22 PM - Post#239306    

Princeton usually strong on the D glass, but getting eaten alive tonight. Give up an and-one as a result. Not good.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:23 PM - Post#239307    

#1 backed up and fouled. And one.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:24 PM - Post#239308    

Still in this thing but gotta focus. Stop the bad passes, box out, etc.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:24 PM - Post#239309    

Stephens's trey to cut it to six again. Putting team on his back, but I hope he doesn't end up forcing things too much. If they slide his way, maybe something will open up for Cannady.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:25 PM - Post#239310    

How many f--ing tries can we give them!
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:25 PM - Post#239311    

Unraveling now. Giving up another OR, then a TO and reaction foul. Need to start making some plays.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2602
12-06-17 09:25 PM - Post#239312    

GW getting 2nd and 3rd chances every single possession now. Like 6 in a row. It's getting laughable.

Guys are trying to box out...they're just getting out-hustled and out-muscled inside.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:26 PM - Post#239313    

Much better to have in than Reynoso-Avila.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:27 PM - Post#239315    

Cannady up to 19, but they must get stops.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2602
12-06-17 09:28 PM - Post#239316    

17 offensive rebounds given up already. This might be approaching some kind of NCAA record.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 09:30 PM - Post#239318    

Bell simply horrible night. Cannady, Stephens, Much and Jerome have played well with great effort. Others have played hard but simply not getting the job done. Looks like it could be a very challenging season as Tigers do not appear to have enough horses.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:32 PM - Post#239319    

Stephens hurt on a drive. Just what Tigers need. Give up a drive, down 10.

Why is Reynoso-Avila playing, even if he did draw a foul?
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 09:33 PM - Post#239320    

Probably because Young's play and Morales injury but do not play him.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:34 PM - Post#239322    

Where is LeBlanc? Aririguzoh?
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:35 PM - Post#239323    

Tigers with another long scoring drought. Painful to watch.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:37 PM - Post#239326    

Bell seems to hook the defender on most of his drives. Surprised he never gets called for it.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:38 PM - Post#239327    

Lucky break getting fouled after rebounding the missed FT. But Schweger misses the front end, of course.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2602
12-06-17 09:39 PM - Post#239329    

We're just too soft inside. Tonight the issue is rebounding, but usually it's rim protection.

Much is going to be a very good offensive player, but as a freshman, he simply isn't ready on defense. And all the other underclassmen are behind him.

On the bright side, Stephens had a truly epic slum dunk and went back on the court after limping on an earlier play. Hopefully, he finds his mojo again. This losing streak has made him gun-shy despite a still good FG%.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:40 PM - Post#239330    

Bell seems to hook the defender on most of his drives. Surprised he never gets called for it.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:40 PM - Post#239331    

Bell with another TO. Tough day on offense for him.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:41 PM - Post#239332    

No buckets n more than 5 minutes now.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:41 PM - Post#239333    

Derosier hits his third trey. But down 10 with about a minute left...
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:41 PM - Post#239334    

Jerome with another three. Need to see more of him.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:47 PM - Post#239339    

Down 8 with :37 left. No problem.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:47 PM - Post#239340    

I'd like to see us try a trapping and scrapping defense from the start of a game sometime. I think we have the speed and length for it to work--what we are doing isn't working.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:50 PM - Post#239342    

Would have been a nice pass from Bell but Jerome wasn't looking.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:50 PM - Post#239343    

Agree with you TigerFan. This team is only good on D when they get deflections and make teams uncomfortable. (That was true last year to some extent, but it seems even more urgent now.)
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:52 PM - Post#239346    

I've never seen a team just pass it around and not try a shot when down 11 at the end of a game.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 09:53 PM - Post#239348    

I thought that the effort was good tonight on defense -- intensity was there maybe out of desperation. Coach is obviously still searching for the combination(s) that will work. I would go thru the growing pains with Much and Jerome with the big three and pray to God that one of the big guys in not totally useless. Where is Pete Miller -- I forgot that the Coach did not like him.

Big picture -- really good PG is on his way next year. It will be an upgrade over Amir unless he has another second season miracle.
Eric Von Zipper
Freshman
Posts 69
12-06-17 09:56 PM - Post#239352    

Cantabs shut down Rams in 2nd half and win on last second 3.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1131
12-06-17 09:56 PM - Post#239353    

DC was great tonight. Stevens solid. Much showed real led nice flashes of game. Jerome hit 3 from deep. Bell really struggling. Defense was much tighter for long stretches but gave up an absurd number of offense rebounds. Progress from last game but this team still has a long way to go.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 09:57 PM - Post#239356    

18 ORs on 30 missed FGs is disastrous for a team that usually is really good on the defensive glass. Give up 17 more FTAs and 6 more FGAs. Slightly better shooting overall and much better three-point percentage not enough to overcome the deficit in attempts.

Probably should have taken more treys, too.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2602
12-06-17 09:58 PM - Post#239357    

This was the WRONG season to have a tough non-conf schedule.

I guess MH wanted to accelerate his youngsters' development, but instead their spirits look crushed. The Diamond Head Classic will be a cringe fest.

Another soul-crushing, embarrassing loss. That last possession was meaningless but hilarious in its ineptitude. At least Cannady and Stephens will be back next season.

Why is it so hard to find or develop a single decent big? We've been totally barren since familial legacy gifted us Ian Hummer. We don't need a beast like Ian. Just a decent rebounder who can contest a shot.

Eric Von Zipper
Freshman
Posts 69
12-06-17 10:06 PM - Post#239365    

30 days to the Ivy opener @ The Palestra.
1LotteryPick1969
PhD Student
Posts 1483
1LotteryPick1969
12-06-17 10:09 PM - Post#239367    

We won the league with Connolly and Miller. Gladson might have been the answer, but I'm starting to think he may not play this year. No one coming in next year's class......

18 offensive rebounds. I've never seen anything like it.


SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-06-17 10:09 PM - Post#239368    

Kittles tells Derek Jones that the Tigers are still "searching" and trying to prevent mistakes that they've been trying to iron out in practice from occurring in games.

I think the team will be pretty good to very good by the time the IL season starts. Much has already started to figure it out offensively for a few games, and now Derosiers seems to be taking the first steps. Still need a lot of D work. Schweger makes mistakes but also does good things. If Gladson gets healthy and LeBlanc and Morales return, that core along with the big three should be able to function. But D will have to improve. Maybe more extended zone or aggressive man.

bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-06-17 10:24 PM - Post#239377    

Thanks for sharing Kittles' comments. I do think at some point and time, Coach needs to reduce the numbers of players in the rotation but he can still experiment but it is painful to watch.
umbrellaman
Senior
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umbrellaman
12-07-17 12:51 AM - Post#239447    

The bigs question is an interesting one- there is a shortage of traditional bigs everywhere, the game has changed. Miller and Brennan were highly touted recruits, but it seems that they didn’t get the minutes to develop fully.
JadwinGeorge
Junior
Posts 274
12-07-17 10:17 AM - Post#239462    

Have to call you out on that one, Uman. Miller developed as much as his skill set permitted. He shot 28% from the FT line as a freshman but improved every season. One night at Columbia he had a 20 point double double in an OT win. He was overshadowed by cannady's 8 points in 25 seconds to tie the game at end of regulation. He made big plays in the streak, defended well and held his own as a rebounder. Brennan has had a lot of chances to play but is really a stretch 4. He is not fast enough to succeed there however.
Old Bear
Postdoc
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12-07-17 10:30 AM - Post#239465    

  • SRP Said:
Steeves making play after play for GW.



His sister put up 31 last night. I suspect Sacred Heart feels the same.
umbrellaman
Senior
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umbrellaman
12-07-17 04:48 PM - Post#239556    

JadwinGeorge-I think I was intentionally vague there. Miller and Brennan didn't get the minutes - because it was right not to give them more minutes. The game has changed, and small lineups are frequently the way to go or the right matchup that gave the Tigers the best chance to win. With other teams also lacking classic bigs to punish you down low, the need for the big post defender diminishes. Shot blocking would be nice, but you don't see that much either.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-07-17 06:40 PM - Post#239574    

I side with JadwinGeorge on this one. Although many teams go small, you also need the ability to go big dependent on your opponent. Last night was a good example as well as non-conference games against elite teams.

Miller was under utilized by Henderson. He had Miller sit for most of his senior season and went with Brase prior to his injury. Brase had toruble defensively against Mika, Kempton and others. Miller got more time against Notre Dame as Bonzie Colson could overpower Stephens.

Sydney Johnson rightly used Connolly and Maddox against Kentucky bigs. It is my biggest gripe and one of the few regarding Coach Henderson.

Someone will need to step up against Lewis later in the year. The choices are clearly not as good as Miller. If you want to beat very good teams, you better have the ability to go big, medium and small. Last night, they were overmatched by height and size of GW and it showed in rebounding stats. I mentioned it before the game so it is not second guessing.
Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3450
12-07-17 08:26 PM - Post#239584    

Brown went small against a bigger PC team and were even (42-42)in rebounds for the game. PC went smaller in the second half to counteract. It seems that the move toward quickness and being able to play more positions is becoming more popular in the college game ae well as in the NBA.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-08-17 11:08 AM - Post#239617    

I hope that you are right but the Tigers have a big hill to climb to become a very good team, let alone a good team, by the time the IL season begins. There is a distinct possibility that they will be somewhere around a 4-11 team when IL play starts based on their remaining non-conference games.

Coaching staff has much work to do with not that much time to do it. Freshmen players are challenging especially when it comes to protecting the ball. I do agree that Much gives some hope especially on the offensive end.

The major plus for the Tigers is the caliber of play by other teams which has been below average to poor. There does not to be a high performing team like Weisz/Cook, Sears/Mason or Saunders/Chambers. Harvard may well be the best but their play to date has been very unimpressive.

With the IL Tournament, excluding Dartmouth, you might have 7 teams fighting for four berths. If you get in, no team appears to be insurmountable for the IL tournament. The optimism expressed by fans of other teams may be somewhat a function of the overall poor quality of play by other teams vs. the performance of their own team plus the IL tournament. Time will tell.


1LotteryPick1969
PhD Student
Posts 1483
1LotteryPick1969
12-08-17 02:07 PM - Post#239653    

For me the problem is that it is tough to watch so much talent perform so aimlessly.

I guess I was spoiled by TJ Bray, then Spencer Weisz.

So LeBlanc, Morales, Gladson and Barnes all injured?
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-08-17 02:40 PM - Post#239660    

We all have our back-seat-driving hobbyhorses. I too would like to see an effective post defender on the floor, who can also make plays by passing and scoring, but the "Princeton center" appears to be a fading memory, visible only in flashes when an old-school hook shot occurs or there is a rare pass to a cutter from the high post. Even if Gladson gets healthy I do not expect to see much commitment to him playing that role for major minutes.

Performance to date underestimates the quality of the team and its likely IL performance, even if the others are pretty good. Many wide-open threes have been missed at a rate that I don't think will be sustained--I'm more worried that not enough good ones have been launched in some games. And I'm optimistic that the man defense will get better as the younger players learn and the older ones figure out their roles in the different lineups. My backseat driving here is that I would like to see an assortment of harassing zones mixed in and a greater commitment to pressuring the ball and inducing turnovers in man defense, and I expect the latter to evolve naturally as it did last season.
1LotteryPick1969
PhD Student
Posts 1483
1LotteryPick1969
12-08-17 11:02 PM - Post#239727    

Sometimes I think the concept of a team leader is overblown, but in the case of this team, it seems to be a major need, be it at the point or at the post.
bradley
Masters Student
Posts 794
12-09-17 04:29 PM - Post#239768    

A very good fit for this team would have been Caruso's return. He fits the role of a guy who can score on his own plus he can rebound 7.1 per game at Santa Clara. He would have also added some much needed fire. Somewhat ironic -- it is what it is.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3533
12-09-17 11:09 PM - Post#239867    

Yeah, Henry toughened lineups.



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