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Eric Von Zipper
Sophomore
Posts 159
12-18-17 09:28 PM - Post#240482    

Opens Princeton +14
bradley
PhD Student
Posts 1173
12-19-17 10:06 AM - Post#240497    

USC has two extremely good players: 6'11" Metu, recruited by Harvard, who can shoot 3s', drive to the basket and slam dunk along with 6'1" senior PG who just tied Pac 12 record with 19 assists. Metu is probably the most talented player that they have faced this year. 2nd leading scorer, 6'10", missed last game and Tigers only slim hope is that he misses this game as they simply cannot handle height. Another top flight player is out -- FBI investigation. Other players are very talented although the sum of the parts is less than individual components.

Who guards Metu? -- Stephens with help or Much/Brennan -- depends on if 6'10" Boatwright plays. Bell will take on PG in all likelihood. Not a good match up as Tigers always have trouble with height/power as Henderson plays small. Middle Tennessee will be a much better test as they are more representative of IL teams.

One of these days, maybe tonight, the Tigers can lightening in a bottle against a very talented team but it will be very challenging to put it mildly. Tigers need to shoot very well to stay in the game.
JadwinGeorge
Senior
Posts 329
12-19-17 11:30 AM - Post#240507    

If Tigers keep the deficit under 14 it will be a successful night. Three games in 4 days over the weekend is scary...fatigue, injury factor. Nice trip for the kids. Hope they relax and have fun. Palestra right around the corner.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3827
12-19-17 12:48 PM - Post#240522    

Metu is also a shot blocker. USC is big, mixes man with zone. Saw them get beat pretty badly by SMU in Dallas, but they're good. Tigers will have to protect the ball, shoot well from three, and finish hard at the rim. When USC is in man, Metu should be drawn away from the basket.

Defensively, the Trojans will not pick you apart with slick passing and ball movement, so Princeton needs to be aggressive doubling and helping on drives and post-ups. Get some deflections, box out like crazy.

In a Saturday where-is-USC-now article, the L.A. Times mentioned Princeton only in passing as a "tune-up." Let's hope the Trojans are in the same mindset and that the Tigers come out loose and aggressive.
bradley
PhD Student
Posts 1173
12-19-17 05:02 PM - Post#240564    

As Rodney Dangerfield said "NO RESPECT".

Besides being past my bed time, I do not have PAC 12 on my Comcast Infinity package and it does not look like the game is on ESPN 3. Hope that some Tiger fans watch a competitive game or at the very least, Tigers play very tough defense and move the ball versus one on one to build on the last two games.


TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 12:28 AM - Post#240625    

Tigers start hot, go up 10-3 then hit a cold spell. 12-12 at the under 12 break.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 12:31 AM - Post#240626    

Two 3s by Much and a back door. Up 6 with 9 to play in 1st half.

TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 12:35 AM - Post#240627    

Lead as high as 7. Young throws it away. Lead at 5 with 7:30 to play.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 12:41 AM - Post#240628    

Too many unforced turnovers and lead evaporates. Down 2 with 5:30 to play.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 12:47 AM - Post#240629    

More turnovers. More close in points by USC. And the Princeton freeze is on. 15-2 run by USC and suddenly down 9. Ugghh.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 12:53 AM - Post#240630    

Great finish by Tigers and they close to 36-33 at half. Just when I was ready to go to bed, they pull me back in!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 12:55 AM - Post#240631    

36-33 at the half. Proud of the guys and their effort. Even if they get blown out in the 2nd half, they didn't give up when USC made a big run.

Post defense was quite good and aggressive (carrying over form Cal Poly) but USC started scoring at will on drives to the rim. Got roasted on 1-on-1 layups/bankers. Conversely, we're rolling every contested layup off the rim.

USC is just better, so I'll be happy if the guys keep shooting confidently and bring the defensive energy. Don't make weak TOs. Get a shot off, make or miss. Don't let USC shoot over your passive hands. Get up in their grille and make them take contact and make FTs.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:12 AM - Post#240632    

Tigers back up - 37-36
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:22 AM - Post#240634    

Much tosses a bomb and Tigers up 50-45 under 14 to play!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:24 AM - Post#240635    

55-48 Tigers with 13 to play. Much is on fire!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:29 AM - Post#240637    

Tigers rolling. Up 59-48 with 10:30 to play. Shooting the lights out. D sounds solid.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 01:31 AM - Post#240638    

How impressive is this? Guys are playing aggressive, not scared. Don't know if they can hang on, but this isn't luck. Freshmen bigs are finally starting to grow. Not just Much but Desrosiers.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 01:39 AM - Post#240639    

  • gokinsmen Said:
How impressive is this? Guys are playing aggressive, not scared. Don't know if they can hang on, but this isn't luck. Freshmen bigs are finally starting to grow. Not just Much but Desrosiers.



gokinsmen....

You are always so negati....wait what? Yea man! Look at this! Exciting, even if they collapse, I think we are finally seeing the unknown potential!!

TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:44 AM - Post#240641    

Tigers lead down to 5. 6:00 to play. Lots of Tiger fouls.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 01:45 AM - Post#240642    

  • TigerFan Said:
Tigers lead down to 5. 6:00 to play. Lots of Tiger fouls.



Bell and Much both have 4 fouls with 6 mins to go. Not good. Young needs to hit some shots.

TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:45 AM - Post#240643    

Back to 8. Under 6!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:48 AM - Post#240644    

Up 8 under 4 to play!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 01:49 AM - Post#240645    

Terrible call on metu and 1. With that said, I feel like we have the composure to finish this out!!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:51 AM - Post#240646    

Come on guys. Gotta hang on. Lead at 5 with 3:15 to play. Shot clock violation. Aagghh
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 01:53 AM - Post#240647    

Eek. Down to 3. Guys letting Metu do what he wants. Gotta double and foul if necessary.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 01:53 AM - Post#240648    

  • gokinsmen Said:
Eek. Down to 3. Guys letting Metu do what he wants. Gotta double and foul if necessary.



I agree - let someone else beat us and foul hard when you have to.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 01:55 AM - Post#240649    

Too Much!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:55 AM - Post#240650    

MUCH!!! I think we can start talking about the "Big Four" now. Up 6 under 2 minutes
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 01:55 AM - Post#240651    

Walton is a dumb dumb...."princeton is going to need 4 more 3's to win" .... AND MORE MUCH!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 01:56 AM - Post#240652    

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 01:57 AM - Post#240653    

FOUL SHOUT TIME - sorry caps =)
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:58 AM - Post#240654    

Lead down to 5 with 48 tics left. Gotta keep making the free throws.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 01:59 AM - Post#240655    

Just make FTs and we win...let's get it to Cannady or Stephens.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 01:59 AM - Post#240656    

Ok. DC going to the line.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:00 AM - Post#240657    

All the credit to MH for the double inbound play!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:02 AM - Post#240658    

crap USC hitting 3s now. Tigers still up 3. Just keep it in DC's hands. 25 seconds left. Lets gooooo Tigers!!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:02 AM - Post#240659    

Walton needs to stfu
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:02 AM - Post#240660    

Back to back 3s for USC...heart attack time.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:04 AM - Post#240661    

crap Young. Why????
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:04 AM - Post#240662    

Uh-oh...about to give the game away.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:04 AM - Post#240663    

I'm listening on radio and I'm losing it. What did Young just do???
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:05 AM - Post#240664    

Just get a stop the old fashioned way...
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:05 AM - Post#240665    

Young is not acting like a senior...
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:06 AM - Post#240666    

Ugh. It was too good to be true.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:06 AM - Post#240667    

Get Young the hell out of there.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:07 AM - Post#240668    

We didn't make our FTs and didn't take care of the ball. Played a great 39-minute game.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:07 AM - Post#240669    

Amir #%$@ that up...sorry for the language. He passed the ball in to Young in the corner. Young then threw it out of bounds.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:07 AM - Post#240670    

How many of these near misses can I live through and still keep coming back.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:08 AM - Post#240671    

http://watchkobe.ml/ncaab52.php live feed - be ready for some pop ups
1LotteryPick1969
PhD Student
Posts 1652
1LotteryPick1969
12-20-17 02:08 AM - Post#240672    

Shades of 1969 UCLA
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:08 AM - Post#240673    

Sounded like we were making our FT but we're just playing no defense whatsoever. And we immediately go down in OT. crap.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:09 AM - Post#240674    

Alright we are in OT. Our biggest issue is that Amir and Sebastian both have 4 fouls
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:10 AM - Post#240675    

Amir and 1!!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:10 AM - Post#240676    

Cannady has gone very quiet but rest of team stepping up big time. Ok FTs again
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:11 AM - Post#240677    

Can't me on Jerome. Ya just gotta make the freebies!!!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:13 AM - Post#240678    

This reminds me of the FSU triple OT...
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:13 AM - Post#240679    

Can't make the link work but this is phenomenal radio!!!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:13 AM - Post#240680    

We ain't done yet???
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:13 AM - Post#240681    

Back up 4!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:13 AM - Post#240682    

AND 1 MYLES
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:15 AM - Post#240683    

I believe!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:15 AM - Post#240684    

MYLES!!!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:15 AM - Post#240685    

MYLES fade away
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:16 AM - Post#240686    

Back up 6. Myles with 28!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:16 AM - Post#240687    

Mitch looks pretty damn calm considering everything that is going on. I think it is helping the team for sure.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:17 AM - Post#240688    

Cannady is our best overall scorer, but Myles is our go-to guy in the clutch. He can create out of nothing when everyone else is sucking wind.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:18 AM - Post#240690    

There you go Amir! Up 8
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:18 AM - Post#240691    

I have a feeling that usc is going to forget about devin here and he is going to hit a big 3
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:19 AM - Post#240692    

And Cannaxy travels. What the heck?!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:19 AM - Post#240693    

Can't close these games out!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:20 AM - Post#240694    

100 points!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:20 AM - Post#240695    

We do all the hard work and can't do the easy stuff. Come on...
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:21 AM - Post#240696    

Myles 65% FT on the year and is 8 for 8!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:21 AM - Post#240697    

LETS GOOOOO
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:21 AM - Post#240698    

What a game!
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:22 AM - Post#240699    

It's going to happen!!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:22 AM - Post#240700    

They did it!!!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:22 AM - Post#240701    

WE DID IT.

FINALLY.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:23 AM - Post#240702    

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
mmp629
Junior
Posts 224
mmp629
12-20-17 02:25 AM - Post#240703    

I should be asleep by now, but WOW!!!!!
umbrellaman
Masters Student
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umbrellaman
12-20-17 02:26 AM - Post#240704    

Incredible. To take a punch like that in regulation, and get off the mat in OT on the road, that’s heart.

And the big 3 plus Much and Derosiers holding their own against a big time opponent. Now we need to find three or four guys to fill out a rotation. Who wants to step up?
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1248
12-20-17 02:26 AM - Post#240705    

19 assists vs. 10 turnovers. That's more like it. How the heck did we out-rebound these guys?
1LotteryPick1969
PhD Student
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1LotteryPick1969
12-20-17 02:27 AM - Post#240706    

Thanks to my prostate, I woke up to enjoy this!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 02:28 AM - Post#240707    

MAJOR CONGRATS TO THE WHOLE TEAM.

Never gave up. Didn't play scared. For me, the stat of the game is 19 PFs committed despite none in the last 8:30 of the game. I like that. It shows grit and energy.

Minus two short stretches, the guys were aggressive tonight. Constant doubles inside, getting up into players' faces, and if you foul them? SO WHAT. USC only shot 65% from the line tonight anyway.

Myles obviously carried the team across the finish line, but I was very impressed by Much and Desrosiers. Cal Poly or USC, they just look more comfortable now. Still some things to clean up, but the game is starting to slow down for them.
1LotteryPick1969
PhD Student
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1LotteryPick1969
12-20-17 02:32 AM - Post#240708    

Can someone who had TV coverage expand on why Walton was especially annoying tonight?

umbrellaman
Masters Student
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umbrellaman
12-20-17 02:35 AM - Post#240709    

There was a stretch where Metu was unstoppable, then in OT he disappeared, anyone able to see what happened? Was it the switch to zone?
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:36 AM - Post#240710    

  • 1LotteryPick1969 Said:
Can someone who had TV coverage expand on why Walton was especially annoying tonight?




I did - and I may be bias but in a tight game he becomes very dramatic.

Examples: Tigers miss 2 of 6 or so free throws toward the end of the game. On those 2 misses, it's the end of the world and the "tigers deserve to lose the game"

A bad inbound equates to "the tigers deserve to lose the game because they can't inbound"

...but then when they do the right thing, it's almost as if he forgot any of those mentions.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:37 AM - Post#240711    

  • umbrellaman Said:
There was a stretch where Metu was unstoppable, then in OT he disappeared, anyone able to see what happened? Was it the switch to zone?



Tigers def doubled him up. They forced someone else to beat them, and MH's strategy worked.
Vonsid
Freshman
Posts 80
12-20-17 02:41 AM - Post#240712    

  • 1LotteryPick1969 Said:
Can someone who had TV coverage expand on why Walton was especially annoying tonight?




I will say I was totally surprised on the amount of coverage Princeton got from a program perspective.

PAC-12 Network spoke about a lot of history, including some big names from the past with portraits and stories. They also spoke a lot about Mitch and how he has changed the Princeton offense to what it is today.

Nate Walton went to Princeton, so I think that had a big impact on the programming tonight.

Lastly, there were A LOT of Princeton folks at the game b/w texts I had with people there and all the orange I saw on TV. Nate Walton estimated somewhere around 300 in a very empty arena.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 2676
12-20-17 03:08 AM - Post#240713    

  • Vonsid Said:
  • umbrellaman Said:
There was a stretch where Metu was unstoppable, then in OT he disappeared, anyone able to see what happened? Was it the switch to zone?



Tigers def doubled him up. They forced someone else to beat them, and MH's strategy worked.



Yeah, they were smothering him at that point. With about 5m left in regulation I'm pretty sure I saw Mitch shout, "No foul!" and that's when the guys went soft on Metu and he went off for 4 buckets.

To be fair, we were up 7 and looking good, so I guess Mitch didn't want to give USC freebies with the clock stopped. But I'm always of the opinion that you stick with whatever got you the lead in the first place.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3827
12-20-17 04:49 AM - Post#240714    

Wow. Just like the FSU thriller from a few years ago, I can't watch the best game of the year. Hope there's a replay somewhere. Sounds like the Tigers followed the formula of doubling down low and USC indeed did not have that many assists.

Box score standouts: Nearly equal shooting and rebounding percentages, but PU with way more trey attempts and more makes, and PU with eight more FTAs and FT makes. Much was muchly efficient out there and stuffed the scoresheet. Bell with 9 assists and 5 steals is huge. Cannady not shooting great but still effective with all those FTs. Stephens also efficient and prolific.

Huge win, and very nice to see that the coalescing good play on both ends shown against Monmouth and then against Cal Poly was not a mirage. If they can further gel and get pieces like Gladson and Morales back, I can see some Ivy dominance. No Aririguzoh, no LeBlanc, and of course no Morales or Gladson in this game--I think this team ought to have enough depth for the Ivy season.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-20-17 05:57 AM - Post#240716    

Princeton at 127 on KenPom, tops in the Ivy.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3827
12-20-17 06:08 AM - Post#240717    

And the local angst:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-usc-prin ceton-...

Trojans got tuned up, all right.
sparman
Masters Student
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sparman
12-20-17 09:29 AM - Post#240724    

Like I said, Tigers a competitive team in the Pac12.

  • 1LotteryPick1969 Said:
Can someone who had TV coverage expand on why Walton was especially annoying tonight?


He was sure gushing in the embedded video from the linked newspaper article.

penn nation
Professor
Posts 13155
12-20-17 09:40 AM - Post#240726    

  • 1LotteryPick1969 Said:
Can someone who had TV coverage expand on why Walton was especially annoying tonight?




I could never stand him when he did NBA games for NBC--super annoying. Nothing new here.

bradley
PhD Student
Posts 1173
12-20-17 10:12 AM - Post#240729    

I watched the game only up to the point where Tigers were up 20-14 and then checked the half time score on IPhone. It was good to see that Boatwright, 6'10" did not play although Mitch went with Brennan and Much in the starting lineup. Tigers came out confident and looked like the team of late although USC pushed them way out. Tigers did box out and fought for rebounds which was a good sign.

Brennan was really disappointing as this game was clearly a game that needed to step up and he did not. He has talent but he does not translate on the court.

Great win for Tigers. If anyone hears about a replay, let us know. Irony is that they may play USC again within the next week.

Good night for Ivies and hopefully, league wide improved play is around the corner. The Big 3 are playing outstanding and confident basketball and Henderson/Kittles are coaching.
PennFan10
Postdoc
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12-20-17 10:35 AM - Post#240733    

According to USC Head Coach Andy Einfeld, there were 4 regular's not playing for USC

“You had a lot of points, rebounds, assists and defense sitting on the sidelines tonight,” coach Andy Enfield said. “But that’s not an excuse for why we lost.
JadwinGeorge
Senior
Posts 329
12-20-17 10:54 AM - Post#240738    

Sounds like one to me. Bill Walton, in the Pac12 Network recap, "Princeton was the better team. I will never forget I WAS HERE!" He also mentioned the fact that a lot of alums were in attendance. Must have been a wild time.
jeromelh
Freshman
Posts 59
12-20-17 11:28 AM - Post#240748    

If I were a USC fan, I would be annoyed at the constant discussion of the Princeton team and the history and players by the commentators.
penn nation
Professor
Posts 13155
12-20-17 11:48 AM - Post#240755    

Those 3 regulars have accounted for 28 points, 14 rebounds and 4.5 assists per game (Melton has yet to play this season).

It was a great job by Princeton to pull it out after almost pulling a massive choke job in regulation. And USC will probably have a impressive resume by season's end. But that will probably be a very different team than the one Princeton played last night.

  • PennFan10 Said:
According to USC Head Coach Andy Einfeld, there were 4 regular's not playing for USC

“You had a lot of points, rebounds, assists and defense sitting on the sidelines tonight,” coach Andy Enfield said. “But that’s not an excuse for why we lost.



Tiger69
Postdoc
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12-20-17 12:08 PM - Post#240760    

Thank you, as always, PN, for coming late to the party and tracking some dog sh!t on the way in. You have a nice day now.🦃
penn nation
Professor
Posts 13155
12-20-17 12:26 PM - Post#240763    

Don't take it personally, dude. I can be plenty critical of the Quakers on the Penn board.

Watched the second half and the OT (hey, I needed some comic relief and a late night break from grading finals). It really was nearly a colossal choke job--Princeton had total command of that game and it would have been ridiculous to have lost it. They did great in the OT and never looked back.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3827
12-20-17 01:07 PM - Post#240770    

Maybe Boatwright & co. will be back for Diamond Head. On to MTSU, a well-coached and talented outfit.
bradley
PhD Student
Posts 1173
12-20-17 01:08 PM - Post#240771    

I always get a kick out of coaches after a bad loss -- at least some of them. The two replacement players are 4 and 5 star recruits including the son and uncle of two all time UCLA players, O'Bannon -- I really feel bad for the USC coach.

In fairness, if Penn won this type of game, there would be "dancing in the streets" especially in light of comments after the Dayton game. Perhaps, an Eagles fan??

There is no doubt that Princeton caught some breaks with USC injuries. It is only one game and Tigers could easily lose a rematch.
Reality is what Walton commented as to how well the Tigers played because that is only what you can control.


penn nation
Professor
Posts 13155
12-20-17 02:04 PM - Post#240780    

Nah--we've previously celebrated against USC in Los Angeles. That game also featured a corner 3 bank shot by Klatsky which defied the laws of physics.

Penn vs USC, 2003. Koko returns home.

  • bradley Said:


In fairness, if Penn won this type of game, there would be "dancing in the streets" especially in light of comments after the Dayton game. Perhaps, an Eagles fan??





bradley
PhD Student
Posts 1173
12-20-17 02:23 PM - Post#240786    

Gotcha -- a mere 15 years ago against a 13-17 USC team.
Tiger84
Freshman
Posts 51
12-20-17 02:58 PM - Post#240796    

Worth pointing out that a Charles O'Bannon was on the losing side for the last two Princeton wins against Pac 10 / Pac 12 teams.
yoyo
Junior
Posts 255
12-20-17 03:15 PM - Post#240798    

Has Dayton ever lost to an ivy team?
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 2340
12-20-17 03:24 PM - Post#240800    

13-1 after Penn's win
yoyo
Junior
Posts 255
12-20-17 03:34 PM - Post#240802    

Good job Penn. Way to represent the league!
bradley
PhD Student
Posts 1173
12-20-17 05:05 PM - Post#240829    

It was interesting to see Henderson pare down the rotation in an overtime game. Much and DesRosiers are core members of the team and Schwieger is going to get some playing time. In a perfect world, Morales and Gladson come back as you suggest and are probably part of the rotation if healthy. If they do not come back, Henderson may have to pare down to 7 for challenging games.

Young and Brennan are playing their way out of the rotation even being seniors. LeBlanc may be coming back in. Obviously, the big 3 need to stay healthy. Coach certainly has time before the year-end foray at the Palestra as to finalizing the rotation assuming that they are in the hunt.

Stephens, Bell and Much have really stepped it up over the past several games. Stephens brings something to the table that is un-Ivy like.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3827
12-20-17 10:00 PM - Post#240859    

And Much is adapting fast at the offensive end. Even his highlight reel from high school didn't prepare me for his ability to dribble past defenders, although it did show his great shooting form and excellent passing. He probably needs to catch up defensively some, but that will come. His growing into the game this season is hugely important.

And yes, Stephens is not your typical Ivy player. In some ways he always reminded me of Wesley Saunders. And now that he's taking and making open treys, he's much more potent than he was and there is more space for everyone else to play. So he could be really great going forward.
bradley
PhD Student
Posts 1173
12-20-17 11:01 PM - Post#240870    

Did anyone find a replay of the game -- legal or quasi-legal?
Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2372
12-21-17 02:26 AM - Post#240877    

Or even a radio rebroadcast?
Go Green
Masters Student
Posts 659
03-11-18 08:21 PM - Post#252138    


The Princeton game is probably why USC didn't make the NCAA Tourney.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3827
03-11-18 08:45 PM - Post#252149    

#40 on Kenpom, left out.
penn nation
Professor
Posts 13155
03-11-18 09:06 PM - Post#252165    

More like lost 2 of its 4 last games without its best player who won’t be back. So best to take those ratings with proper grain of salt that was deserved.
jadwinjungle
Freshman
Posts 45
03-11-18 09:41 PM - Post#252179    

They went 8-3 this year without Boatwright, and Metu and McLaughlin are both just as good, if not better players than he is. They also made a run to the finals of the Pac 12 tournament without him.

What hurt USC is that their best win is probably NMSU or MTSU, both mid majors on a neutral court, they didn't knock off any of the top teams in the Pac 12, and they lost at home to Princeton.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 3827
03-11-18 10:27 PM - Post#252201    

USC is way better than ASU, as they proved in conference play. They are a very good team, with or without Boatwright--Metu and the point guard are the key players.



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