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Eric Von Zipper
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12-23-17 02:57 PM - Post#241145    

Opens Princeton -5 1/2

O/U 142
bradley
PhD Student
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12-23-17 03:11 PM - Post#241146    

Hope you continue to be good luck charm with initial post. Thought that the odds would be slightly higher but Vegas probably believes that Akron will rebound from getting pounded last night with extra effort this evening.

Let's hope that the Tigers do not follow the tracks of Crimson today. Irony is that Steeves smoked them although no Aikens or Baker but .... Cornell is down by 11 to Niagara at home with 15 minutes to go. It is not pretty.
SRP
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12-23-17 03:12 PM - Post#241147    

Zips got demoralized against USC when the Trojans went to their tricky 2-3 almost-matchup zone and completely frustrated them. All that length led to a ton of deflections and forced shots. Before that, Akron looked athletic and determined. If the Tigers shoot OK and protect the lane they should be fine.
Eric Von Zipper
Senior
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12-23-17 03:21 PM - Post#241149    

USC opens a 3 1/2 favorite against Middle Tennesse
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 03:28 PM - Post#241152    

USC didn't start to pull away against Akron until Boatwright was ejected on a flagrant 2 in the second half. Their other guys were great down the stretch, especially Stewart and Metu.
bradley
PhD Student
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12-23-17 03:50 PM - Post#241154    

Should be an interesting match up between USC and MT -- for some unknown reason, I like USC. Tigers better come ready to play == no snoozing.

Brian Earl brought Cornell back to 1 pt deficit but they lost by 3 pts. I have a feeling that Cornell is going to get better under his tutelage.
Eric Von Zipper
Senior
Posts 343
12-23-17 03:57 PM - Post#241155    

Zips only shoot 63% from the charity stripe and turn the ball over a lot.


bradley
PhD Student
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12-23-17 06:14 PM - Post#241162    

MT/USC 37-37 with 4 minutes left in well played 1st half. How did Tigers stay competitive with these guys??
Tiger69
Postdoc
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12-23-17 07:36 PM - Post#241164    

USC wins by 5.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 08:20 PM - Post#241165    

Tigers really sloppy. Down 4. Should take these guys.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 08:26 PM - Post#241166    

Tigers playing Bell, Young, Arririguzoh, Sheeiger, Desrosiers. Not a good look but good rest for most starters. Down 4 again.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 08:31 PM - Post#241167    

Shweiger having a tough time finishing his drives.
1LotteryPick1969
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1LotteryPick1969
12-23-17 08:33 PM - Post#241168    

Airball Cannady
Tiger69
Postdoc
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12-23-17 08:33 PM - Post#241169    

Bell gives me stomach acid. Where is the team that beat USC? Gotta go for a walk.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 08:34 PM - Post#241170    

Bell's TO was more than compensated for by a number of great drives.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 08:35 PM - Post#241171    

Tigers really looking rough. Down 5 . Oh for 8 from three. Terrible dry spell. Zips are big and strong but Tigers should take these guys. Good test to see if they can grit one out on a night when the shots just aren't dropping.
1LotteryPick1969
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1LotteryPick1969
12-23-17 08:38 PM - Post#241172    

Nice away screen for Cannady
Tiger69
Postdoc
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12-23-17 08:41 PM - Post#241173    

Mitch has a big job at halftime. I don't like this game.
SRP
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12-23-17 08:43 PM - Post#241174    

Given unusually bad three-point percentage and some Akron-favorable calls inside, not too bad, although PU does look sluggish sometimes, especially Stephens on offense. Aririguzoh doing the job protecting the rim, looking pretty good.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 08:43 PM - Post#241175    

Really ragged play. Down 7 and hard to watch.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-23-17 08:44 PM - Post#241176    

Sloppy TOs. Can't rebound after getting stops.


Regressing back to early season form tonight.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 08:45 PM - Post#241177    

Bad turnovers. Poor shooting. Too much time on the beach today? Mitch has to give these guys a talking to. Good to know the Zips wilted in 2nd half last night.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 08:56 PM - Post#241179    

7 TOs to 2 assists in 1st half. like the 4 blocks but not giving up 5 ORs to the Zips.
SRP
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12-23-17 08:57 PM - Post#241180    

Got to cut down on the TOs and close on their shooters better, for sure. But not nearly as bad as the early-season stuff.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:03 PM - Post#241181    

Quick 5-0 run to open the second half, Aririguzoh with the block and Stephens with the post-up two and the open three. Akron forced to take the early timeout.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:05 PM - Post#241182    

Nice 5-0 start then two breakdowns and Zips hit a 3
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:08 PM - Post#241183    

I want Much more.
umbrellaman
Masters Student
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umbrellaman
12-23-17 09:10 PM - Post#241184    

Was one of the freshmen compared to Ian Hummer? Much has shown the most promise but his game doesn’t seem to be similiar.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:12 PM - Post#241185    

These guys are big and strong and hard to drive through.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:12 PM - Post#241187    

Bell and one!
SRP
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12-23-17 09:17 PM - Post#241188    

Akron expects Princeton to fold, and is getting frustrated that they won't. Bell gets caught on an iffy charge call, comes right back for the and-one, then a Stephens trey, then a flagrant foul by Akron's guy elbowing Stephens in the head hard.
Tiger69
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12-23-17 09:19 PM - Post#241189    

It was Desrosiers who MH compared to Hummer.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:21 PM - Post#241190    

Tigers showing a lot of fight. This one is a nail biter.
SRP
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12-23-17 09:22 PM - Post#241191    

Aaron Young, no! Do not let the three-point shooter kick his leg into you with one second left on the shot clock! Senior, remember?
gokinsmen
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12-23-17 09:22 PM - Post#241192    

Good adjustments after halftime.

Only 1 second-chance given up so far this half. And much more aggression on both ends, resulting in more TOs forced, FTs drawn and offensive boards for our guys.
Vonsid
Sophomore
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12-23-17 09:23 PM - Post#241193    

I don't know why Aaron plays so much. He has not been doing us many favors this year. The mistakes he makes as a senior are mostly inexcusable.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:26 PM - Post#241194    

Officials starting to kiss me off. Missed an obvious foul on one end then call Tigers on questionable one.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:27 PM - Post#241195    

Young hurting us out there right now.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:30 PM - Post#241196    

Up 4 with under 10 to play. Gotta stay honest on D.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:31 PM - Post#241197    

Not thrilled with the refs myself. They seem to be leaning Zipward to me, although in general they're letting them play.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:31 PM - Post#241198    

Bell just cannot make 2 ft.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:33 PM - Post#241199    

Stevens has made a couple of bad plays but he Zips are looking really ragged now. Up 5
Tiger69
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:35 PM - Post#241200    

Uh oh. Myles gets 3rd personal. Tigers up by 4.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:35 PM - Post#241201    

Akron missed a ton of open treys earlier in the half, then they nail one with a guy in the shooter's face. PU's defense the last few minutes has been very good. But Stephens now has three fouls.
penn nation
Professor
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12-23-17 09:38 PM - Post#241202    

Weird seeing Henderson in a polo shirt.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:39 PM - Post#241203    

Cannady has got to step in up here. Shooting 1 for 8. Tie ball game n
Vonsid
Sophomore
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12-23-17 09:41 PM - Post#241204    

Oh my god how many travels is that
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:42 PM - Post#241205    

Cannady takes a big charge!
penn nation
Professor
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12-23-17 09:43 PM - Post#241206    

Princeton has been playing tight defense. It was a good play by Akron to finally find an opening down the lane, but a better play by Cannady to draw the charge.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:43 PM - Post#241207    

Cannady doing it on D and rebounding. Great charge take there. Would love to see some replay on those travel calls from a standing position that look pretty phantom.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:43 PM - Post#241208    

Guys running out of gas. Cannady hustling hard, but can't make an open 3 tonight. Will Myles take over?
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:47 PM - Post#241209    

Much flashing those passing skills! Bell picking up some slack for Cannady.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:48 PM - Post#241210    

Amir is getting it done tonight despite the phantom travelling calls against him.
SRP
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12-23-17 09:48 PM - Post#241211    

Schweger is the best cutter to the hoop on this team. He must account for 50% or more of all the back door buckets PU has this year.
penn nation
Professor
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12-23-17 09:49 PM - Post#241212    

A walk by Much, but you'll take it.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:50 PM - Post#241213    

MUCH TOO MUCH.
penn nation
Professor
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12-23-17 09:51 PM - Post#241214    

The Ivy FT defense this season has just been incredible.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:51 PM - Post#241215    

BIG mistake not letting Cannady hold it for the FTs.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:53 PM - Post#241216    

Shweiger should not be in at the end of a close game. He is under 50% from FT and may have just cost us the game missing the front end of a 1 and 1. ugghhh
penn nation
Professor
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12-23-17 09:53 PM - Post#241217    

  • gokinsmen Said:
MUCH TOO MUCH.



Duvivier living the high life. That guy has nerves of steel.

SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:53 PM - Post#241218    

DC should keep the ball when they're trying to foul. And why is Devivier not doubled immediately in that situation?
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1871
12-23-17 09:55 PM - Post#241219    

It actually looked like they were trying to foul Cannady on the last trip up the floor. Why he gave up the ball when Zips were desperate to foul we'll never know.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 09:56 PM - Post#241220    

YES!!!
gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts 3634
12-23-17 09:56 PM - Post#241221    

YEAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Lose on a buzzer-beater last night. Win on one tonight!
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1871
12-23-17 09:57 PM - Post#241222    

Wow! That was a gritty win!
Vonsid
Sophomore
Posts 143
12-23-17 09:58 PM - Post#241223    

MUCH MORE!!!!!
penn nation
Professor
Posts 21081
12-23-17 09:58 PM - Post#241224    

The pass and catch were not pretty but it turned out all right for Princeton in the end.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:58 PM - Post#241225    

Oh, yeah! Much and Stephens with ice water in the veins that time.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-23-17 09:58 PM - Post#241226    

Great recovery, great win. I give Mitch a lot of grief, but the guys clearly came out with some FIRE after halftime tonight.

Sebastian Much is going to be an Ivy POY candidate as an upperclassman. The shooting, the passing, the active hands and feet on defense.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 10:00 PM - Post#241227    

Good win when the threes wasn't working too well and they were committing too many turnovers against a gritty, athletic team. Plenty of fight to go with the flashes of skill.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-23-17 10:03 PM - Post#241228    

Much is a gamer. Taking the big shots. Making the big passes. Hanging tough on D. My goodness!
SRP
Postdoc
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12-23-17 10:27 PM - Post#241230    

Stat of the night: Tigers held Akron to 8-27 inside the arc, including 0-8 on shots outside the lane but inside the arc.

Uncharacteristically getting out-treyed in both attempts and percentage, taking five fewer FGA because of turnovers and ORs given up, Princeton still wins by hitting one more FT in equal attempts while going 16-28 inside the arc, 3-4 from outside the lane (actually just outside the paint).
bradley
PhD Student
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12-23-17 10:49 PM - Post#241232    

True. After two very challenging games in three days against very good teams, tonight was a trap game and the Tigers came very close to falling in the trap. At the end of the day, it is a character building win and should serve them well down the road.

If they won convincingly, it would have been a very good sign but the Tigers are still a work-in-progress. Bottom line is that they have turned the ship around from a disastrous start. Very tough game on Monday but Cannady may light it up after a day on the beach. Mitch and staff have done an excellent job. Tigers should be proud of what they have accomplished over the past five games. Looking forward to them taking the floor at the Palestra.
umbrellaman
Masters Student
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umbrellaman
12-23-17 11:26 PM - Post#241234    

Much and Schwieger establishing themselves in the rotation. Amazing that a freshman makes two big plays like Much did down the stretch. Who fills out the rotation? I think the switch is going to flip on Desrosiers soon. Young and Brennan are known quantities. Aririguzoh is what he is. Do we know anything about Gladson’s injury? Barnes? Morales?
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-23-17 11:36 PM - Post#241236    

I contend that the Cal Poly game was a HUGE confidence boost for our interior defense and freshman bigs. They got to see clear results from their hard work and tenacity.

This is one reason I'd like to schedule an easier slate to start non-conf and then finish it off with an event like the Diamond Head where you can face 1-2 great opponents. If you make adjustments after losses to Butler and BYU only to get crushed by Miami and lose again to GW, you don't learn a lot. It's also easy to get down on yourself when you're 0-3, 2-5. That's how you lose wire-to-wire at home to Lehigh.

As for a two-bid Ivy, I think the best strategy is to rack up a gaudy record against cupcakes and win 1 of the 2 "marquee" games you schedule in non-conf. Heck, the Selection Committee even considers close losses to be a positive.

Taking into account the Ivy tourney, a 26-3 record with a 1-1 or 0-1 record against Top 40 teams is better than a 23-6 record with a 1-3 or 0-3 record against Top 40 teams.


bradley
PhD Student
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12-23-17 11:43 PM - Post#241237    

Watching replay and Tigers played good defense for the first 15 minutes but the offense was out of sync during most of the 1st half -- less ball movement. I thought that Schweiger had a very poor defensive performance in the 1st half as he was a half step late and did not lift in defending 3 pt shots -- flat footed. Arirguzoh gives the Tigers a lift and he is a good passer.

Looks like heavy legs for both teams, especially Cannady on offense.

Much reminds me of Brase as a 3 pt shooter when he was a freshmen although more skilled with the ball. Young reminds me of a less productive Clay Wilson as to style.
bradley
PhD Student
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12-24-17 12:38 AM - Post#241238    

Bell and Much played exceptionally well and Cannady's rebounding was outstanding. Arirguzoh made a significant contribution and although Stephens hit very tough shot to win it, he did not play as well as recently. I am not sure why Schewiger got so much time.

Bell's game tonight on offense reminded me of a different version of Weisz but he just gives 3pt shooters open looks by driving and dishing. Much is simply just a player -- shooting and passing, fundamentally sound. Much is athletic, not crazy athletic, but he knows how to play the game plus he has no fear like Cannady.

Although against Mitch's instincts, he should start Bell, Cannady, Stephens, Much and Arirguzoh. Best balance plus good passers and defenders -- open looks and contest shots.
1LotteryPick1969
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1LotteryPick1969
12-24-17 07:50 AM - Post#241240    

Cannady is now 6 for 30 from 3-land in Hawai'i over 4 games.
bradley
PhD Student
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12-24-17 09:24 AM - Post#241242    

Somewhat of a surprise as Hawaii topped Davidson. Tigers will play for 5th spot against home team. Last year, they played at Pearl Harbor Invitational and Tigers won by 13 after jumping off to a big lead thanks to Cook and Weisz. Should be a good tough game as Hawaii is 8-3 and better than Kenpom ranking.

Miami upset by New Mexico -- good competitive tournament.
Tiger69
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12-24-17 11:23 AM - Post#241246    

It doesn't seem that the defenses have been any more focused on Cannady than earlier in he season. On the other hand he appears to be stepping up his own defense and getting more involved rebounding. This larger role may be affecting his natural delivery. He'll work it out.
1LotteryPick1969
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1LotteryPick1969
12-24-17 11:51 AM - Post#241247    

I think the local cuisine has 'poi'-soned his shooting stroke
TigerFan
PhD Student
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12-24-17 12:12 PM - Post#241249    

Ooof with the pun! His green light zone seems to be getting larger and larger as his shooting touch has declined. Some of the shots he's been jacking up are way out there. Frankly I wish he'd trim it back a little.
1LotteryPick1969
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1LotteryPick1969
12-24-17 02:58 PM - Post#241254    

  • Tiger69 Said:
It doesn't seem that the defenses have been any more focused on Cannady than earlier in he season. On the other hand he appears to be stepping up his own defense and getting more involved rebounding. This larger role may be affecting his natural delivery. He'll work it out.



Probably correct assessment; his defense has clearly improved.
SRP
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12-24-17 03:17 PM - Post#241255    

DC drew the critical charge down the stretch, not something I'm used to seeing from him. Combined with his clutch rebounding, he found a different way to help the team. And if even one or two of his good looks from outside had gone in, the game would have been by a couple of possessions.
bradley
PhD Student
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12-24-17 05:46 PM - Post#241265    

Last two years, the Tigers fate, other than the ND game, was decided if Miller won the opening tap. Now, we are dependent on Eric Von Zipper making the initial post after the odds come out as he sets everything in motion.

It was revealing when the Miami coach stated that the defensive plan was geared on stopping Cannady. He is getting much closer attention in my opinion. It may also help if gets two minutes rest in each half but it is tough in these tight games. He has an amazing motor but he probably needs a blow. Back to back nights in the Ivies will be problematic to play 40 minutes per game. Reality was that he is not sure 60% on 3 pointers for the entire year.

He remains a deadly weapon.
1LotteryPick1969
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1LotteryPick1969
12-24-17 08:06 PM - Post#241266    

  • bradley Said:

It was revealing when the Miami coach stated that the defensive plan was geared on stopping Cannady. He is getting much closer attention in my opinion.



His only three pointer against Akron was on a curl around an away screen, which left him open right at the three point line, instead of 2-4 feet beyond.

I'd like to see a lot more of that, and if they start to switch, the screener has a mismatch down low.



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