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AsiaSunset
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01-05-18 11:11 AM - Post#242104    

Postponed. Will be played on Saturday
AsiaSunset
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01-05-18 11:12 AM - Post#242106    

4pm

http://www.pennathletics.com/news/2018/1/5/penn-pr ...
penn nation
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01-05-18 11:21 AM - Post#242107    

So it all works out in the end.

Those who were clamoring for a DH--voila.

Those Sabbath observers who were shut out--we get to see at least the second half (hey, half a challah is better than no challah at all).
10Q
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01-05-18 11:26 AM - Post#242109    

BH!! Beat Princeton!
Tiger69
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01-05-18 11:33 AM - Post#242110    

Damn! I'd shoot my TV if I had one!
Quakers03
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01-05-18 11:48 AM - Post#242115    

Stop it....
palestra38
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01-05-18 11:48 AM - Post#242116    

What kind of nonsense is this??? So what if it is cold---we played during the Freaking Blizzard of 1978 on the road and got into Providence by Amtrak and the National Guard.

Rendell is right--we are a nation of wusses.
Quakers03
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01-05-18 11:51 AM - Post#242118    

I am stunned by this. Plus, it's not like it's going to be any warmer tomorrow. Wow. I'm sure we're going to get a GREAT set of refs now...Lol. The back up Saturday crews?! I better bring my yelling voice.
10Q
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01-05-18 11:54 AM - Post#242120    

Follow the money. They are afraid of lawsuits.
Yo-Yo
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01-05-18 12:08 PM - Post#242127    

This is really a joke and further evidence of continuing amateur hour at the Athletic Dept. Conditions in the city are fine! In fact, Drexel is going forward with its game against Charleston (who miraculously made it into Philly) tonight.

People have made plans to be there and may not be able to juggle them to attend tomorrow.

If we are going to continue to act like a DIII program we should just make it official.
palestra38
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01-05-18 12:24 PM - Post#242131    

Nonsense---the conditions will be no better tomorrow. However, Penn is closed today except for essential employees and that may be the reason, but frankly, this will simply result in our game having officials who had nothing to do tomorrow.
yoyo
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01-05-18 12:44 PM - Post#242133    

Good. tomorrow works better for me and that is all that really matters,
Quakers03
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01-05-18 01:25 PM - Post#242137    

And as the Tigers are draining free throw after free throw down the stretch, we'll see if you regret your words. This really is incredible. The only plausible excuse is the personnel one, since the temps and conditions will be exactly the same tomorrow.
penn nation
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01-05-18 01:37 PM - Post#242140    

It’s also possible some personnel may have been away during New Years/Winter Break, had their return altered by the storm and due to airport backups would not have been able to get back in time for the game.
PennFan10
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01-05-18 02:02 PM - Post#242147    

Yea, I am pretty sure this wasn't a "convenience" decision by the University. It's a fairly complicated process to host an event at the Palestra and rescheduling is done only when there isn't another option.
dperry
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01-05-18 02:36 PM - Post#242153    

I'm getting the impression from my co-workers who live in the city that they did not cover themselves in glory with plowing yesterday.
David Perry
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10Q
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01-05-18 02:39 PM - Post#242154    

Who does the postponement favor, Penn or the unmentionable ones?
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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01-05-18 02:54 PM - Post#242157    

  • 10Q Said:
Who does the postponement favor, Penn or the unmentionable ones?


I believe the name you're looking for is Voldemort.
palestra38
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01-05-18 02:58 PM - Post#242160    

The roads are clear---I had no issue getting to work either yesterday (when I had to drive particularly carefully) or today (roads are fine).

But Penn closed yesterday and today and I believe that is the reason for the postponement. It's really not fair to those who made plans to come from outside the city to go to the game, but it is what it is.
palestra38
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01-05-18 03:01 PM - Post#242162    

Or Niedermeyer
jeromelh
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01-05-18 03:04 PM - Post#242163    

I think there was collusion between the Penn and Princeton Athletic Departments. We need an investigation
PennFan10
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01-05-18 03:14 PM - Post#242166    

Yea, P38 got to work no problem so there should definitely be a game today!
bradley
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01-05-18 04:53 PM - Post#242191    

Well said. I came into Philadelphia today to work so that I could attend the game tonight. Unfortunately, cannot attend tomorrow but did receive the gracious offer to see another Penn game other than St. Joe's. No refund offered?

Looking at Penn's schedule and may come into town to watch an exciting Penn-Dartmouth contest later in the year.

Excellent PR by Penn Athletics.
palestra38
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01-05-18 04:54 PM - Post#242192    

I think if you press the point, you will get a refund.
SteveChop
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01-05-18 07:01 PM - Post#242203    

Actually, I'm kind of glad. I felt lousy today so I'll have another day to recover but, more importantly, we now get to see the women play too.
SRP
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01-05-18 07:31 PM - Post#242205    

Is the Penn campus covered in drifts? Why is it closed?
palestra38
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01-05-18 08:58 PM - Post#242212    

We're a nation of Wusses.

Ed Rendell
Tiger69
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01-05-18 10:20 PM - Post#242226    

I've noticed that it's not the kids who complain. It's the parents.
dperry
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dperry
01-05-18 11:27 PM - Post#242234    

Speaking o' the weather, if anyone was considering taking the train to the games tomorrow, I strongly suggest checking the SEPTA, Amtrak, and/or NJ Transit websites before setting out. I just finally got back from work because, among other reasons, the wires between 30th Street and Suburban actually froze, and they had to chip the ice off them. Since conditions are supposed to be similar tomorrow, and possibly even worse, I would make sure to check. The El and the Broad Street were running reasonably well, as an alternative for those living in the area.
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Cvonvorys
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01-06-18 12:46 PM - Post#242263    

Just checked... Penn - 2.

Can anyone confirm the game will be televised on NBC Sports Philadelphia +? My FIOS channel lineup is showing different programming. I had tickets for last night, but I have a family commitment for this afternoon, so I'm hoping to record it and watch the 7-point Penn victory tonight when I get home...
palestra38
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01-06-18 01:38 PM - Post#242264    

Look at the message at Pennathletics.com--not on NBC cable, just on ILDN. You and many others were screwed by the unnecessary change.
Quakers03
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01-06-18 01:49 PM - Post#242265    

I actually just got the line at 2.5. The moneyline is -145.
dperry
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01-06-18 02:22 PM - Post#242267    

Women tied after 1 at 15. Princeton was cold early on, but knocked dowm a couple of 3's to tie at the end. Parker playing with no fear, already a couple of tough putbacks and an out-of nowhere block
David Perry
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Cvonvorys
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01-06-18 02:43 PM - Post#242269    

Let's Go Quakers...
dperry
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01-06-18 02:48 PM - Post#242270    

Princeton up 31-28 at half. They were knocking down some NBA 3's early in the quarter and were up by 10 at one point, but McLaughlin called timeout with about 3.5 to go, and after that the D got cranked to 11; four or five straight possessions with either a steal, a bad shot, or running out of shot clock. Parker still playing well, but as usual for us, too many bunnies missed. Alarie has two fouls for Princeton, so hopefully we can attack her in the 2nd.
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whitakk
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01-06-18 02:56 PM - Post#242271    

Princeton attempted only two layups in the entire half. Penn should win if it keeps getting second chances, because Princeton won't stay above a point per possession on jumpers alone.
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01-06-18 03:09 PM - Post#242272    

Will ILDN have the game for me to watch later tonight?
dperry
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01-06-18 03:22 PM - Post#242276    

Still Tigers 48-42 after 3. We're playing a bit better on offense, but they're moving the ball very well, getting a lot of backdoor cuts, and we just can't put together two stops in a row. Somebody gotta start making 3's
David Perry
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palestra38
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01-06-18 04:10 PM - Post#242285    

Ildn is carrying the game
Cvonvorys
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01-06-18 04:19 PM - Post#242288    

  • palestra38 Said:
Ildn is carrying the game



I subscribe to ILDN... Do you know if it will be recorded to watch later?
PennFan10
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01-06-18 04:23 PM - Post#242289    

Yes. You can watch the game later on ILDN.

Harvard struggling at home v Dartmouth. 1 pt game with about 7 min left in game
dperry
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01-06-18 04:36 PM - Post#242293    

Well, unfortunately it got ugly there at the end; final was Princeton 70-55. First off, give credit to Princeton's seniors, particularly Leslie Robinson, who looks like a completely different player from last year; drove to the hole beautifully on several occasions. Second, we now know how the rest of the league has felt the last 4 years going up against Sydney; Alarie just terrorized us in the paint today, although we made it a bit easier on her than it should have been (more on that in a sec.}. In particular, this is the first time that Nwokedi's run into someone in the league who's taller and just as quick, and she didn't do well. In the second half, they also started sagging very aggressively every time Nwokedi or Parker got the ball down low, double and triple teaming, and neither one of them has figured out either how to fight through it or pass out of it. Penn also didn't make enough 3's to pull the defense out any. Princeton's ball movement is much improved; lots of backdoor cuts and easy layups underneath. I think the next time we may have to bite the bullet and try a man, because the zone just leaves too many spaces for them to work.

This is where the poor recruiting three years ago is starting to bite us. Agahyere didn't play too bad; she had some good boards and tough buckets down low, but not enough to make a difference, and she didn't do anything on defense. Russell unfortunately chose a very bad game to have an attack of Foreman Disease; there were at least two and maybe three times when she tried to go one-on-one to the hole against Alarie, to whom Russell is giving up six inches; I don't need to tell you how that went. Ross did the same a couple of times, and even Nwokedi had an ill-advised drive get stuffed. I am pleased that McLaughlin stayed with the depth, givng ten people meaningful minutes. Again, though, I don't think Parker and Kinum are playing enough; they are the future anyway, let's keep them out there and let them learn.

Well, we looked worse in the first game in '14 and managed to work that out in the end; however, Princeton didn't have anyone like Alarie that year. If McLaughlin can figure this out, it will be impressive even by his standards
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PennFan10
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01-06-18 04:44 PM - Post#242297    

Dartmouth held a 45-42 lead with about 6min left and Harvard finishes with a 19-6 run to win by 10.
PennFan10
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01-06-18 05:09 PM - Post#242306    

No points with 2 minutes played. Max on Stephens, Darnell on Cannaday, Aj on Much
dperry
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01-06-18 05:10 PM - Post#242308    

Who is 24 for Princeton? Not on the roster.
David Perry
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TheLine
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01-06-18 05:10 PM - Post#242309    

First to 2 wins?

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01-06-18 05:11 PM - Post#242310    

#%$@ can a guard be as bad a FT shooter as Woods?

Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:12 PM - Post#242311    

Betley gets a force to go, but offense has looked completely out of sorts so far.

PennFan10
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01-06-18 05:14 PM - Post#242312    

24 is DesRosiers. Must be his road #?
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01-06-18 05:14 PM - Post#242313    

Betley off to a good start. And always a positive to get a Foreman three to fall.

Penndemonium
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01-06-18 05:15 PM - Post#242314    

Does the ILDN work pretty well these days? I've resisted subscribing in the past because I heard such bad comments about the quality of service. The complaints made it sound like a bucket of pain. Wondering if I should sign up now to watch the Ivy season.
Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:18 PM - Post#242316    

It’s better than it used to be.


Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:18 PM - Post#242317    

This is a defensive war so far.

Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:20 PM - Post#242319    

Sheesh. Second shot clock violation turnover of the game already.

dperry
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01-06-18 05:22 PM - Post#242321    

Yeah, program has him as 22. Betley with a couple of awesome and 1's so far
David Perry
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01-06-18 05:26 PM - Post#242325    

Time ouuuuut, Black!
David Perry
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rbg
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01-06-18 05:28 PM - Post#242328    

Dev Goodman sighting and a three! Hopefully, a good omen for the day.
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01-06-18 05:28 PM - Post#242329    

Nice run to a 10-point not lead. Betley again miracle working with crap clock expiring, and Goodman adds another unexpected 3 to go with Foreman’s.

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01-06-18 05:30 PM - Post#242332    

Goodman with a great o-board followed by a terrible pass attempt to Max.

TheLine
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01-06-18 05:30 PM - Post#242334    

Keeping Princeton's guard under control and off the boards is the key. So far so good.

Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:32 PM - Post#242335    

Inability to get much going until late in a possession is leading to too many low-percentage shots.

dperry
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01-06-18 05:32 PM - Post#242336    

And they promptly stagnate out of the TO.
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01-06-18 05:35 PM - Post#242337    

Woods gets away with a clear push off to score.

Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:36 PM - Post#242338    

A.J . with his second ugly looking 3 attempt.

Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:38 PM - Post#242339    

Now a Woods three. Every one a bonus.

Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:39 PM - Post#242340    

Betley ON FIRE.

Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:39 PM - Post#242341    

As is Canady.

dperry
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01-06-18 05:39 PM - Post#242343    

Ryan Betley is. . . en fuego. The seas are parting.
David Perry
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Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:40 PM - Post#242345    

Need a strong finish over final 3:00.

rbg
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01-06-18 05:44 PM - Post#242351    

Tigers made them look foolish with the ball movement and 3 from Bell. Penn cannot let up over the last few minutes.
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01-06-18 05:45 PM - Post#242352    

A.J. way too indecisive, forces up a weak shot, and they give up a second consecutive three at the other end.

Strong finish missing so far.

But Betley takes care of that.

rbg
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01-06-18 05:45 PM - Post#242353    

Betley! Wow!
Chip Bayers
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01-06-18 05:47 PM - Post#242356    

Foreman with just a dreadful unforced turnover.

dperry
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01-06-18 05:48 PM - Post#242359    

Is there anything Betley can't do? He drives! He shoots 3's! He boards! He makes ridiculous out of bounds saves!
David Perry
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01-06-18 05:49 PM - Post#242360    

Thought Woods could have taken another step and gotten a true layup attempt, instead misses a drifting, against his body teardrop from the lane.

Betley With The Bailout was the story of the half.

PennFan10
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01-06-18 05:52 PM - Post#242364    

The decision to play Max on Stephens has been huge. His length has bothered him and he hasn't been able to drive past him. 1-5. Their big 3 have just 17 pts in 1st half with 10 of those from Cannaday. Just 6 turnovers combined so far
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01-06-18 06:01 PM - Post#242369    

We shot 50% for the half.
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01-06-18 06:06 PM - Post#242373    

Brodeur grabbing his lower back after that last drive. Not good.
David Perry
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rbg
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01-06-18 06:06 PM - Post#242374    

AJ goes to the trainer. Uh oh!
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01-06-18 06:07 PM - Post#242375    

Brodeur travels and tweaks something in his back on same play.

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01-06-18 06:08 PM - Post#242376    

Brodeur out of training room but still looking stiff.
David Perry
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01-06-18 06:10 PM - Post#242378    

Nice interior play by Max last couple of minutes, and Good Lord, Simmons!
David Perry
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01-06-18 06:11 PM - Post#242379    

Jarrod Simmons!

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01-06-18 06:13 PM - Post#242381    

Why did they cut the clock reset on fouls to 20?
David Perry
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rbg
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01-06-18 06:14 PM - Post#242382    

Max playing really well. Great Offensive board and assist to Foreman!
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01-06-18 06:17 PM - Post#242383    

Dumb turnover as Max fails to clear the lane after overdribbling, then kicking it out to Woods.

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01-06-18 06:18 PM - Post#242385    

Guarding Betley a lot more closely, I see
David Perry
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01-06-18 06:24 PM - Post#242390    

Dumb foul by Max. However, so far, every run the Tigers have made, we've had an answer.
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01-06-18 06:24 PM - Post#242391    

Ugh. Second time in last few minutes we’ve given up an offensive board and gotten burned.

Next foul puts Princeton in the bonus for the rest of the half.

rbg
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01-06-18 06:25 PM - Post#242392    

Would be nice to see Betley find a way to get open and get some second half points.
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01-06-18 06:26 PM - Post#242394    

Stephens totally shutting down Betley.

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01-06-18 06:27 PM - Post#242395    

Great, now they're in the bonus
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rbg
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01-06-18 06:28 PM - Post#242397    

AJ with his third missed three pointer, Simmons with his 4th foul and Princeton in the bonus.

Quakers need to quickly regroup.

PennFan10
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01-06-18 06:28 PM - Post#242398    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
Stephens totally shutting down Betley.



If I were to just read your posts and nothing else, I would think we are getting beat by 20+

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01-06-18 06:29 PM - Post#242399    

Some really bad shot selection last three possessions. Brodeur fails to go up strong after getting deep in the post, then takes another bad three, then Woods on a wild drive.

rbg
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01-06-18 06:31 PM - Post#242402    

Tigers on 7-0 run with Penn scoring drought almost 4 minutes. Ugh!
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01-06-18 06:32 PM - Post#242403    

  • PennFan10 Said:
  • Chip Bayers Said:
Stephens totally shutting down Betley.



If I were to just read your posts and nothing else, I would think we are getting beat by 20+




Umm, they’ve played terribly over the last five minutes and a double-digit lead is down to three.

91Quake
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01-06-18 06:33 PM - Post#242404    

We don't seem to have a plan on offense right now. Sam Jones or Caleb Wood may be in order right now.
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01-06-18 06:36 PM - Post#242405    

Big strip by Brodeur and Betley finally gets second half points.

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01-06-18 06:36 PM - Post#242407    

Betley. . .I can't even. . .
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01-06-18 06:36 PM - Post#242408    

Make the free throw, Antonio!
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01-06-18 06:37 PM - Post#242410    

Cannady abuses Foreman on the drive, but Woods turns around and does the same to Stephens.

rbg
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01-06-18 06:37 PM - Post#242411    

Woods with the basket and foul! Maybe, Penn is coming out of its offensive funk.

Stephens now has 3 fouls. Antonio needs to hit his FT coming out of the
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01-06-18 06:37 PM - Post#242412    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
  • PennFan10 Said:
  • Chip Bayers Said:
Stephens totally shutting down Betley.



If I were to just read your posts and nothing else, I would think we are getting beat by 20+




Umm, they’ve played terribly over the last five minutes and a double-digit lead is down to three.




umm, ok go back and read every post you have made in the last week, month, year and find me ONE that is positive.

rbg
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01-06-18 06:37 PM - Post#242413    

break.
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01-06-18 06:39 PM - Post#242414    

  • PennFan10 Said:
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  • PennFan10 Said:
  • Chip Bayers Said:
Stephens totally shutting down Betley.



If I were to just read your posts and nothing else, I would think we are getting beat by 20+




Umm, they’ve played terribly over the last five minutes and a double-digit lead is down to three.




umm, ok go back and read every post you have made in the last week, month, year and find me ONE that is positive.




You’re being a dolt.

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01-06-18 06:41 PM - Post#242417    

That's not a fresh start
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01-06-18 06:41 PM - Post#242418    

How about "Great play by AJ"
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01-06-18 06:41 PM - Post#242419    

AJ with the hoop! How did that go in! And made the FT!

Things looking better with a 6-0 run in the last minute.
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01-06-18 06:41 PM - Post#242420    

Speaking of abuse, Brodeur footworks his way into a three-point play against the freshman.

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01-06-18 06:43 PM - Post#242422    

Great pass by Devon Goodman!

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01-06-18 06:43 PM - Post#242423    

Great defense against Cannady by Jackson Donahue!

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01-06-18 06:43 PM - Post#242424    

Ok, Goodman has not given up his freshman year habit of starting a drive with no plan or place to go beyond getting past his man. Over commits too often.

And why is donahue on the court?
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01-06-18 06:44 PM - Post#242425    

Max is the man.

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01-06-18 06:44 PM - Post#242426    

Nice recognition by Brodeur to find Max on the mismatch.

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01-06-18 06:47 PM - Post#242428    

Young left wide open for a 3. Up 5 with 4+ to go.
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01-06-18 06:47 PM - Post#242429    

Really bad sequence as Max passes up another chance to post Cannady in favor of a Woods three miss which creates transition three for Princeton to cut it to 5.

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01-06-18 06:49 PM - Post#242431    

Antonio has got to make the free throws!
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01-06-18 06:49 PM - Post#242432    

FTs going to huge here, starting with A.J.’s out of the final media timeout.

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01-06-18 06:52 PM - Post#242436    

Good strength by Woods forces Stephens turnover on baseline.

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01-06-18 06:52 PM - Post#242437    

Gotta stop them on these drives somehow!
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01-06-18 06:54 PM - Post#242438    

AJ hitting 2 of his last 4 and is around 55% for the season.

Princeton should again be willing to let Penn try to beat them from the FT line. Hopefully, this year's result is different.

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01-06-18 06:54 PM - Post#242439    

Three straight 1-2 trips from the line isn’t going to get it done.

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01-06-18 06:56 PM - Post#242442    

As Tardi notes, now 3:00+ without a FG and the leads down to 3 again.

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01-06-18 06:56 PM - Post#242443    

Amazing body control from Woods to avoid charge and finally get a basket.

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01-06-18 06:57 PM - Post#242445    

Great board by Max!
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01-06-18 06:57 PM - Post#242446    

Ugh.

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01-06-18 06:58 PM - Post#242447    

With Betley locked up in the 2nd half, is it any surprise that the game will come down to the production of Darnell Foreman.
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01-06-18 06:58 PM - Post#242448    

Good job Darnell.

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01-06-18 06:59 PM - Post#242449    

DF missed the three, but went 2-2 from the line. A small amount of breathing room with 1:00 to go.
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01-06-18 07:00 PM - Post#242450    

Pretty sure Penn doesn’t have a three in the half, does it?

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01-06-18 07:00 PM - Post#242452    

Huge from A.J.

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01-06-18 07:00 PM - Post#242453    

Time to seal it Ryan!

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01-06-18 07:01 PM - Post#242454    

How can Betley miss both?
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01-06-18 07:01 PM - Post#242455    

Didn't see that 0 for 2 coming.

Hi there, everyone!
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01-06-18 07:01 PM - Post#242457    

#%$@.

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01-06-18 07:02 PM - Post#242458    

0-5 from three this half and 6-16 for the game.

With Betley's two missed FT, they are 10-16 for the half and 12-20 for the game. Princeton is 11-14 in the half and 13-16 for the game.
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01-06-18 07:02 PM - Post#242459    

YES!!
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01-06-18 07:02 PM - Post#242460    

No fouls please.

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01-06-18 07:03 PM - Post#242461    

We're going to win this baby.

BEST WIN in a very, very long while.

YES!!
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01-06-18 07:03 PM - Post#242462    

Yikes!

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01-06-18 07:04 PM - Post#242463    

Looks like the Tigers' 8 game win streak is going to end!

Yes!!!
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01-06-18 07:04 PM - Post#242464    

Finally some free throws! Uncharacteristically sloppy possession by Tigers there.
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01-06-18 07:04 PM - Post#242465    

Hard fought win. A nice step in the right direction for the program.

And is this a break from Colin's Foreman rule?

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01-06-18 07:05 PM - Post#242468    

Quaker's back,
Yes he's back!
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01-06-18 07:06 PM - Post#242470    

Just a huge win.

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01-06-18 07:10 PM - Post#242472    

Most unfortunate thing is that so few students apart from the band saw this because of the schedule.

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01-06-18 07:12 PM - Post#242474    

Blame Princeton's idiotic schedule for that. Always a pain to have to accommodate their schedule at the expense of Penn's.

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Most unfortunate thing is that so few students apart from the band saw this because of the schedule.



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01-06-18 07:23 PM - Post#242475    

I'll post much more later but I just have to thank Max. That was a MAN GAME and he was not walking off that floor with a loss. What a pleasure. Great win. Great.
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01-06-18 07:23 PM - Post#242477    

A great win for the Quakers. SD with a short bench, though he played 9 players the 5 starters all played 30+ with Betley playing 40. Mitch did similar with his starters.

I though AJ and Max were huge in the second half. They had 2 pts and 8 rebs between them at half and they finish with 22 and 14.

Donahue's plan of putting Max on Stephens is very counterintuitive but worked exceptionally well. AJ's bucket over Much to give us a 4 pt lead was the bucket of the game to me.

Some great adjustments by both coaches at half. Mitch started screening for Stephens around the basket and he was able to get free a few times. And SD started posting up in the lane with an entry pass from the top vs on the block with entry from the wing. That makes a double team much harder.

Great win.
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01-06-18 07:24 PM - Post#242478    

  • TheLine Said:
Hard fought win. A nice step in the right direction for the program.

And is this a break from Colin's Foreman rule?




I was counting, and I don't think he took 10.
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01-06-18 07:25 PM - Post#242479    

I’m so glad so glad so glad so glad
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01-06-18 07:25 PM - Post#242480    

4 for 10. Although, significantly, both he and Woods were 3 for 6 when not shooting threes.

  • dperry Said:
  • TheLine Said:
Hard fought win. A nice step in the right direction for the program.

And is this a break from Colin's Foreman rule?




I was counting, and I don't think he took 10.



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01-06-18 07:29 PM - Post#242481    

Shavua Tov! Great way to usher in the new week!

I don't care how many times I've seen Penn beat Princeton in my life--it never gets old.

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I’m so glad so glad so glad so glad



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01-06-18 07:31 PM - Post#242482    

Let’s do this again real soon.
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01-06-18 07:43 PM - Post#242485    

  • 10Q Said:
Let’s do this again real soon.



Exactly one month from now works for me.
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01-06-18 07:48 PM - Post#242486    

Tonight we knocked them into last place. In a month, maybe we can knock them into 5th?

  • dperry Said:
  • 10Q Said:
Let’s do this again real soon.



Exactly one month from now works for me.



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01-06-18 07:57 PM - Post#242487    

I am going to sit down with a glass of wine and watch this one again tomorrow night!
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01-06-18 09:04 PM - Post#242494    

Congratulations to the Quakers. Well played, hard fought between two evenly matched teams. Will likely play 3 times this year. Next game is at our place.

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01-06-18 09:19 PM - Post#242497    

I just read the posts on both P Boards and no one bitched about the Refs. What's up with that?
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01-06-18 09:20 PM - Post#242498    

Refs were consistently pro-dribbler, to an absurd extent at times. Otherwise not too bad.
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01-06-18 09:27 PM - Post#242501    

Because both teams, failing at the 3, went full bore towards the basket. So neither had any basis to complain about the fact the refs let them charge or walk a bit. Refs were consistent.
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01-06-18 11:01 PM - Post#242510    

In response to an earlier post, it was Bell, not Stephens, who did a great defensive job on Betley in the second half. But.... WE WON!
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01-06-18 11:28 PM - Post#242521    

4 hours later and it feels just as good now. What a tremendous win. The interesting things for me were:

The defense was awesome. Princeton was cold early but everything after that was a result of just great d. I don't think they got beat backdoor a single time all game. When was the last time that happened? The bigs were great and the others were as well. Even though the offense can struggle at times without real 3 point danger or a true pg, the d from Woods/Foreman is crucial.

Max just wanted it more. He was even pumping up the crowd after the red and the blue. I have never seen him like that and he is a difference maker this year, as we need him to be. Some of those passes were incredible. Awesome stuff.

Betley continues to be the star that we need him to be. When Princeton has to change their entire gameplan because of him, you know he is special. I'm still stunned he missed both free throws and I'd like to see him get a little more aggressive when getting denied, even if it means forcing things, but sometimes you have to give the defense credit too.

AJ's baseline j was indeed the shot of the game. I don't want to think about what might have been if it hadn't fallen, but it was confident, smooth and certainly took advantage of the freshman (who is going to be a major pain in the butt for 4 years). As for the 3s, I don't have the heart to go back and look, but if he has made more than 1 out of his last 15 I'd be stunned. Most of them are wide open too. I had high hopes he could have turned into Zoller from out there...I guess there's still time.

Antonio was everything those of us who have ever touted him always say. His athleticism and ability to finish around the basket was a major difference maker.

How about Devon all of a sudden getting run, and early run at that? He made a couple of nice plays too.

It was really encouraging to see Jarrod do what he did with his limited minutes. That spin move was gorgeous and in no way did he look lost out there. He'll learn with the silly fouls and I only wish Eddie had the chance to get some of these minutes too. I guess it's pretty bad, huh? Do we know how it happened?

I have to also give props to the coach. We had a very dark 10 years and to have us in this position is just awesome. Congrats to the team who I'm sure feels fantastic.

Now I just need to figure out a way to watch the end of the Eagles next week from the Palestra without slingbox. I can't imagine streaming from inside will work too well...
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01-06-18 11:51 PM - Post#242523    

On Betley, I agree that he needs to get more aggressive than he was in the 2nd half. Curious if it was by design or not. It seemed almost as if we decided a few minutes into the 2nd half that we would take what they were giving us and have Betley just stay on the perimeter and keep Bell out there. To me though, what makes Betley so great is his movement without the ball. i think we (or Betley, if he got frustrated and stopped moving) need to keep him in motion, because that is what creates true dagger plays where you feel like you blanketed him for 25 seconds and then he still eventually gets free and burns you.

Of course, when I go back and watch again, it may turn out he was doing what he usually does in the 2nd half, and Bell just denied him. No disrespect to Bell or Henderson intended -- they obviously made an effective adjustment and executed. I just think we may have let what they were doing impact us a little more than we should have.


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01-07-18 12:01 AM - Post#242525    

A blessing on our heads, mazel tov, mazel tov, to see the curse now shed, mazel tov, mazel tov...
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01-07-18 12:01 AM - Post#242526    

Chiming in late to say that was a really good game and a battle, but especially fun because we won.

Princeton is a good team and it wasn't like we shot outshot them from 3 like Dayton. Cannady is a HELL of a player so loved seeing Betley and him each making tough shots in that first half. Credit to Bell for denying Betley all second half, but great job by our bigs to take advantage when they went away from the double.

Just the first game in a looong league season and a lot left to do, but a great start!

LET'S GO QUAKERS!
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01-07-18 12:06 AM - Post#242527    

Agreed. Apparently the game aired on Comcast's other sports channel, and just re-aired too. I only caught the last 10 minutes (and am angry about not checking sooner) but Ryan came in with the quote of the night when asked about being hot. "I knew I was on fire when I woke up."

One more Palestra game note. Maybe next time they have a doubleheader they can fix the scoreboard and not leave the women's stats up all game. The other scoreboard hasn't had stats in a while.
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01-07-18 12:50 AM - Post#242530    

By the way, Antonio would have completely changed our season last year.
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01-07-18 12:50 AM - Post#242531    

  • Quakers03 Said:

One more Palestra game note. Maybe next time they have a doubleheader they can fix the scoreboard and not leave the women's stats up all game. The other scoreboard hasn't had stats in a while.



Actually, they weren't correct for the women, either. I have no idea what is going on there. The regular scoreboard hasn't worked right all year, but this is the first time the video board went on the fritz. Thank goodness the clock and other functions are working, at least.
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01-07-18 01:30 AM - Post#242536    

And we're now #1....see ya Mitch Henderson...the Tigers now have been foiled.

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01-07-18 08:39 AM - Post#242541    

  • PennFan10 Said:
  • Chip Bayers Said:
Stephens totally shutting down Betley.



If I were to just read your posts and nothing else, I would think we are getting beat by 20+





lol, i was thinking the same thing. Negative Nelly

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01-07-18 10:08 AM - Post#242547    

With regards to the second half, my guess is that Donahue wanted to get the big men more involved so the focus of P on Ryan was just fine. Before the game (and now) my thinking was that the big men is where we have an advantage over P and something we needed to focus on to win. A red hot Betley is always welcome but expecting him to repeat his 1H performance in the 2H was not going to be the best gameplan.

Either way, a great win. And feeling that we are finally out of the wilderness: PRICELESS!
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01-07-18 11:11 AM - Post#242553    

I want to reiterate the play, albeit brief, of Jarrod Simmons. His two buckets in 7 minutes were both impressive and signs he is coming around. His 4 fouls were signs he has a way to go (two of them were stupid fouls on his part).

His first bucket was a cut off a Max double in the post and was Max's only outlet, really savy by Jarrod to cut and a great finish. His spin move from the right wing with a left hand finish was a thing of beauty. His block was a great play too.

Jarrod needs to continue to come on the floor and play with energy and make plays. That kid will win us a couple games this year if he stays aggressive.
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01-07-18 11:14 AM - Post#242555    

The great irony about AJ's crucial bucket over Much in the final minute that stretched the lead from 2-4 was that Much was guarding him. That's because MH had put Stephens on Max down the stretch because Max was killing Princeton. Big bucket in a big moment for AJ. He needed that as much as Penn did.
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01-07-18 11:36 AM - Post#242560    

The biggest thing with me for Jarrod was seeing him fit in completely. That is a moment that a freshman can get lost in, and he didn't. The energy he brought cannot be understated either. The block and then three from Betley may have been as loud as the place got all night...until Cannady immediately drilled another one to cut it back to 10. He can bring instant offense, which is a big benefit.
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01-07-18 11:44 AM - Post#242562    

Totally agree. I think the strategy of running Ryan to the opposite side of the court and letting Max and others attack the rim was very smart. Any single player can be negated. SD’s strategy in dealing with Princeton’s approach was a good one. Importantly - the others stepped up, especially Max who had a great game.
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01-07-18 12:10 PM - Post#242571    

The coaching staff is the reason why we can say so complementary things about so many different players. They set up players to succeed. I've been real tired of watching Penn get consistently outcoached by Henderson and by Johnson before him. That didn't happen yesterday - it was on the players to come through and they did.

I hope our recruiting targets were paying attention.

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01-07-18 12:15 PM - Post#242574    

I think Donahue outcoached Henderson a couple of times last season. However, at that point, Penn's combination of talent, experience, depth and execution wasn't strong enough to get the win. That's not the case this year.
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01-07-18 12:23 PM - Post#242581    

Having just read the thread, want to add a couple of things. As for Jarrod - did some good things, especially on defense, but also got called for a few freshman fouls in short order. He and Much are going to see a lot of each other for the next few years.

I might have missed it in a ll the commentary, but there were at least 3 circus shots Penn made in this game, two by Betley and one by Woods that saved possessions that were on life support. Can't count on those again.

I was hoping before the game we would see some AJ in the post without Max lineups of the sort we saw last year, especially when they were focusing on Betley. That happened, but for some reason, AJ is getting shots in those situations, but coming up short quite a bit. It's as if he's having trouble getting off his feet, Fortunately, he made a couple at the end when we needed them. We also saw Max get some solo time in the post with good results, he even had one inside with his left hand which I have never seen before.

Goodman had a nice game, even slowing down Cannady a bit and his knack for rebounding was also in evidence.

One thing I hope I never see again is JD and Wood out there at the same time. That is madness. I'd much rather see Jones out there against a big lineup if they need to break a zone.

These Penn and Princeton rosters create some great matchups on the court. I was big fin watching the chess game between the coaches from sect. 104.

On to the next games of the very long homestand.
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01-07-18 12:29 PM - Post#242585    

Is the game available on replay on ILDN?
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01-07-18 12:36 PM - Post#242587    

I think all ILDN games are
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01-07-18 01:06 PM - Post#242591    

Simmons also has excellent shooting form. Some of our guards could learn a thing or two from it.
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01-07-18 09:24 PM - Post#242617    

That is what I think went on strategically. I just think keeping Betley in motion makes more Princeton's choices more complicated. He may get in the way of other guys getting to the basket, and he may allow Bell to double or otherwise cause some havoc, but I'd still prefer to make Princeton make those choices, rather than coming to a gentleman's agreement that we're just going to play the 2nd half with our best scorer and their best defender standing together in the corner.

Of course, it worked (or at least worked well enough). Just not the choice I would have made. That's why I coach 8th graders and Steve coaches division 1 athletes.
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01-07-18 09:30 PM - Post#242619    

I think the comment by Donahue that, "I’m a big analytics guy. Nobody on our team has more than a 22 percent usage rate at the end of a possession," is really the reason for what happened. If Princeton is going to put its best defensive player on Betley, then we'll move the ball around to different players.

For the first time since 2007, we have 5 starters who are legitimate 2 way basketball players. If they want to key on someone, the other guys will beat you. The only question is foul shots, and all we can do is hope that that will improve.
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01-07-18 09:34 PM - Post#242621    

Has anybody else noticed that, in the last-- Oh, I don't know-- five games, the team seems to have figured out how to exploit double teams?
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01-07-18 09:47 PM - Post#242625    

How long have we been crying for our big men to dish to open men (that being said, DNH is prospering in Europe--and still never dishes--- http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Austria/UBSC... )
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01-07-18 10:00 PM - Post#242627    

To be fair, it not just on the guy in the middle. You need other players to either get in the right spot on the perimeter at the right moment, or to correctly time a cut to the basket and be ready to receive a pass.
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01-07-18 10:59 PM - Post#242630    

I think this team is starting to get it. AJ and Max are both great passers. When they get it and others cut, good things happen. Darnell, Antonio, Jarrod and Betley all did that in the game and scored as a result.
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01-08-18 10:04 AM - Post#242651    


Congratulations again to the Quakers.

Donahue was fully aware of Princeton's Achilles heel which is interior defense. Princeton has no interior defense and Penn exploited that especially in the second half. Last year we had Peter Miller who was a very good interior defender. This year we have no one and Mitch Henderson is going to have to solve that problem. Otherwise Penn is going to destroy Princeton on the interior next time. As much as I like Freshman Much, he is only 6'8" and is a below average defender. Yet he starts at Center.
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01-08-18 10:11 AM - Post#242653    

Much's problem isn't that he's only 6-8. Brodeur and Rothschild are both 6-8 as well. The problem is that Much simply isn't an interior player. He really seems like a wing. Brodeur and Rothschild are both inside bangers by mentality, and have the skills to go with that.
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01-08-18 10:12 AM - Post#242654    

Of course, they tried doubling down to help in the first half and the result was 19 points for Betley. With a zone/double destroyer like Betley, it does create matchup problems for Princeton.

Cannady is really good though.
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01-08-18 11:17 AM - Post#242668    

You are correct. Much is a wing not a center. That he started at center is evidence of the lack inside presence. He is going to be an elite player, but as a wing.

Princeton has had a problem with interior defense from day one. Gladson just came back from injury and played in his first game. Maybe they start Gladson at center with Much on the wing.

The tigers will continue to have a problem with interior defense
penn nation
Professor
Posts 21086
02-05-18 10:57 PM - Post#246321    

I wasn't that far off. If Pr loses, they will be in a 3 way tie for 3rd (so in a way, in 5th )

  • penn nation Said:
Tonight we knocked them into last place. In a month, maybe we can knock them into 5th?

  • dperry Said:
  • 10Q Said:
Let’s do this again real soon.



Exactly one month from now works for me.






10Q
Professor
Posts 23199
02-06-18 08:23 AM - Post#246329    

Hoping someone will post a link to the game. I don't get espnu.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
02-06-18 08:35 AM - Post#246330    

It should also be available on ESPN3
TheLine
Professor
Posts 5597
02-06-18 08:39 AM - Post#246332    

Cannady played close to 90 minutes over the weekend. I'd try to run him into the ground.

palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
02-06-18 08:57 AM - Post#246333    

Just go to ESPN3.com at 6 pm, go to "Live Now" and click to the Penn-Princeton game.
tguru
Masters Student
Posts 409
02-06-18 09:22 AM - Post#246334    

  • palestra38 Said:
Just go to ESPN3.com at 6 pm, go to "Live Now" and click to the Penn-Princeton game.



Nope. It's listed as ESPNU. Don't think you'll get it there if U is not in your cable package.
10Q
Professor
Posts 23199
02-06-18 09:30 AM - Post#246336    

I don't have cable at all. I'm hoping that Stu will post a subversive link.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
02-06-18 09:30 AM - Post#246337    

You're right that you have to sign in with a cable provider. I keep forgetting how cheap Q is. Who here doesn't have all the ESPN networks?
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
PhD Student
Posts 1169
02-06-18 09:59 AM - Post#246345    

I cannot believe it's not on ILDN. Why in hell am I paying for this if I can't watch Penn-Princeton?
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
02-06-18 10:06 AM - Post#246346    

Why in hell do I have to leave work early for a weekday 6 pm game.

Same reason.
Tiger69
Postdoc
Posts 2801
02-06-18 10:08 AM - Post#246347    

Amen.
10Q
Professor
Posts 23199
02-06-18 10:11 AM - Post#246349    

I’m cheap? I paid for ildn. I just don’t want the poison of cable in my house.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
02-06-18 10:18 AM - Post#246350    

"cable" is a myth. You can pick and chose any combination of channels you wish. And it can be through streaming, cable, satellite, FIOS, etc. All the poison (I assume you mean Fox News) can be avoided, if you want. But to be a sports fan and not have access to the ESPN channels is amazing.
10Q
Professor
Posts 23199
02-06-18 11:16 AM - Post#246352    

Your hyperbole has given me a moment's pause, and then I moved forward.
Charlie Fog
Masters Student
Posts 586
02-06-18 11:16 AM - Post#246353    

Princeton -5.5
Stuart Suss
PhD Student
Posts 1439
02-06-18 11:48 AM - Post#246360    

I don't provide subversive links, but I do offer renegade links.

Try this link for tonight's Penn - Princeton game, subject to the normal guidelines.

Don't pay for anything. Don't download anything. Promptly close any windows or tabs which pop open.

10Q
Professor
Posts 23199
02-06-18 12:17 PM - Post#246363    

Thanks Stu. I didn't mean to denigrate your renegade status.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhgRaDclMqQ
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12480
02-06-18 12:39 PM - Post#246369    

  • palestra38 Said:
Why in hell do I have to leave work early for a weekday 6 pm game.

Same reason.


I'm still waiting for an answer as to why I have to do the same. Is it all about TV?
Streamers
Professor
Posts 8141
Streamers
02-06-18 12:43 PM - Post#246373    

Perhaps the eating clubs stop serving at 8:30.
Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3988
02-06-18 01:24 PM - Post#246381    

Us elderly fans can go to the "Early Bird" Special at 4:30 and than go straight the game.
westcoast
Senior
Posts 302
02-06-18 01:24 PM - Post#246382    

Part of a tripleheader on ESPNU - Ivy at 6, Big 12 at 8, Mountain West at 10.
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12480
02-06-18 01:57 PM - Post#246383    

And is this the same reason other Princeton home Ivy games were moved to 6 as well?
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
02-06-18 02:05 PM - Post#246384    

I think that except for this one (which is on ESPNU to get on at 6), only Saturday games were moved up to 6---Friday games still are at 7. So this is obviously for TV
westcoast
Senior
Posts 302
02-06-18 02:18 PM - Post#246390    

All TV related. Last week, NBC Sports Philly asked to move the Friday game up to 6 for an Eagles Super Bowl special at 8. It was either play at 6 and be on TV, or play at 7 and no TV.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
02-06-18 04:40 PM - Post#246416    

It is not listed on the Ivy League Network schedule.
Usually for football games that are televised nationally on the NBCSN, there is still a link and a message when it will be available for viewing. As a result, I am not sure if the replay will be available at the ILN.

The Penn game notes provide this link for the ESPNU broadcast - http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Princeto n

If you have an appropriate cable provider, you should be able to access the game online or through the Watch ESPN app. I just checked the app and saw that the game is listed in its "upcoming" section.



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