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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-05-18 05:57 PM - Post#246270
Princeton -4 1/2. According to Pomeroy, Princeton is now 143 and Penn is 162. A Penn win tomorrow night would most certainly have us overtake Princeton, right? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-05-18 06:00 PM - Post#246271
Maybe. doesn't matter, though. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-05-18 06:05 PM - Post#246273
Penn has no chance of winning. They are going to shoot 50% from 3 in their gym, we are going to shoot 28% and that will be that. Princeton sucks though. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-05-18 06:06 PM - Post#246274
The current ranking shows you just how awful our scheduling was this year (in addition to the IL having a down year overall). |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
02-05-18 06:14 PM - Post#246277
It would have to be a decent sized win (by a couple possessions or more). As for the scheduling, here are the projected profiles of the league's top three (SPOILER ALERT - IT'S NOT GOOD!!!): Harvard Tier 1: 0-2 Tier 2: 0-4 Tier 3: 4-6 Tier 4: 9-3 Penn Tier 1: 0-1 Tier 2: 1-2 Tier 3: 4-4 Tier 4: 15-2 Princeton Tier 1: 1-3 Tier 2: 0-1 Tier 3: 3-5 Tier 4: 12-3 |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-05-18 06:15 PM - Post#246278
What evil spirit took over your body? |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-05-18 06:27 PM - Post#246280
Presumably if you included the IL tourney there's at least the possibility of one more T2 game for Penn. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
02-05-18 06:44 PM - Post#246283
Not with the new home/road tiers. Would need to have an opponent be Top 75 RPI to be a home Tier II win. Princeton, Harvard or team four could pick up a Tier II win if they beat Penn (road game Tier IIs are Top 135), but the Quakers really would need to finish 13-1 (mayyyybe 12-2) in league play to be able to absorb a home loss in the tourney and stay Top 135. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23200 |
02-05-18 06:44 PM - Post#246284
Lefko Fall Wall needs to enter his appearance. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-05-18 06:56 PM - Post#246286
OK... So Penn's 10-point win tomorrow evening should do it. If/when that happens, I'm buying the first round of drinks at Conte's Pizza for any Penn posters on this board after the game... We will be celebrating another memorable Penn win at the Hangar!! |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
02-05-18 06:59 PM - Post#246287
Princeton guy doing what I've asked him to do many times |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-05-18 08:39 PM - Post#246301
Thank you for educating me on the latest twists and turns. Always interesting as well to read your takes here and on your Twitter feed. Most of the time I agree but even when I don’t it still makes me think. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3765 |
02-06-18 02:07 PM - Post#246385
A bit of history on Jadwin Gym, for those who are unaware: Jadwin Gymnasium is named for Chelmsly Worthington Jadwin IV, heir to the storied Jadwin Finance fortune. Chelmsly's great grandfather, Busworth ("Buzzard") Jadwin was a financial innovator who originated the payday loan ("Why wait for your money? Get it now from Jadwin! Jadwin Payday Loans: exploiting the vulnerable since 1906!") Buzzard Jadwin's namesake building stands as an enduring testament to the social conscience of Princeton University. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-06-18 02:12 PM - Post#246386
From the Glass Houses Dept: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/01/upenn-to-r emove-st... |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1169 |
02-06-18 02:13 PM - Post#246387
A bit of history on Jadwin Gym, for those who are unaware: Jadwin Gymnasium is named for Chelmsly Worthington Jadwin IV, heir to the storied Jadwin Finance fortune. Chelmsly's great grandfather, Busworth ("Buzzard") Jadwin was a financial innovator who originated the payday loan ("Why wait for your money? Get it now from Jadwin! Jadwin Payday Loans: exploiting the vulnerable since 1906!") Buzzard Jadwin's namesake building stands as an enduring testament to the social conscience of Princeton University. The fact that I'm still unsure whether this is satire or not speaks volumes about Princeton's reputation. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-06-18 02:15 PM - Post#246388
Buzzard Jadwin's namesake building stands as an enduring testament to the social conscience of Princeton University. As do its eating clubs. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-06-18 02:17 PM - Post#246389
Might as well throw the book at Woodrow Wilson while we're at it |
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10Q Professor Posts 23200 |
02-06-18 02:51 PM - Post#246392
And that Einstein guy doesn't get a free pass either. I mean, what did he do for humanity? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-06-18 02:52 PM - Post#246393
Einstein was just another Dreamer.... |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3765 |
02-06-18 03:01 PM - Post#246395
To be clear, he never did come up with that unified field theory. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-06-18 03:05 PM - Post#246396
Well, he turned down the opportunity to be the first President of Israel. Not a job for a nice (philandering) Jewish boy. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23200 |
02-06-18 03:06 PM - Post#246397
True. He got rookie of the year, but the latter part of his career was pretty disappointing. He peaked very early. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2801 |
02-06-18 04:20 PM - Post#246404
I'm pretty certain that if we want to get into a mud-slinging contest about which institution can claim more filthy capitalist alumni, the Wharton School, and those who claim affiliation, like our you-know-who Doofus-In-Chief, wins, hands down |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
02-06-18 04:24 PM - Post#246405
That guy doesn't give squat back to the school so it's not like he's in good standing. But point taken. Glass house. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2801 |
02-06-18 04:24 PM - Post#246406
Oh! Nailed us ... Fratboy. |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1169 |
02-06-18 04:24 PM - Post#246407
I'm pretty certain that if we want to get into a mud-slinging contest about which institution can claim more filthy capitalist alumni, the Wharton School, and those who claim affiliation, like our you-know-who Doofus-In-Chief, wins, hands down Hey let's not forget everyone's favorite Picasso-destroying, masseuse-tormenting, short shorts-wearing casino mogul. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-06-18 04:26 PM - Post#246408
Well, if you follow our board you know that most of us have nothing but contempt for that alum. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2801 |
02-06-18 04:29 PM - Post#246409
I know. It was a cheap shot. I try only to use it when merited. SM clearly has some deep- seated anti -Tiger bias that comes, most likely, from some painful episode in his past, like a skinny package in April. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2801 |
02-06-18 04:31 PM - Post#246411
Unlike you, PN, I am trying to reduce my visits to the Pennhouse. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2801 |
02-06-18 04:34 PM - Post#246412
But, I still enjoy most of the trash talk -- a sign of healthy times. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-06-18 04:50 PM - Post#246419
Looks like the line is settled in at Princeton -5 or -5 1/2. I'm sticking with my prediction of Penn with a 10-point victory, and I'm sticking with my offer of buying the first round or drinks at Conte's Pizza after the game if Penn does win. As P38 can attest, I have a big heart, so I will even include any Princetonians to help ease their pain. I'll be sitting in the South Section with my 11-year-old son (who is a huge Ryan Betley fan). Let's Go Quakers... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-06-18 04:51 PM - Post#246422
..and on that, we can agree. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-06-18 04:52 PM - Post#246423
What, that he has an 11 year old son? |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1169 |
02-06-18 04:54 PM - Post#246424
I'm sticking with my offer of buying the first round or drinks at Conte's Pizza after the game if Penn does win. And if the Quakers score 100? |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-06-18 05:00 PM - Post#246426
I'm sticking with my offer of buying the first round or drinks at Conte's Pizza after the game if Penn does win. And if the Quakers score 100? From your lips to God's ears... |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-06-18 05:01 PM - Post#246427
What, that he has an 11 year old son? P38 has met my 11-year-old son... |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3765 |
02-06-18 05:21 PM - Post#246428
I know. It was a cheap shot. I try only to use it when merited. SM clearly has some deep- seated anti -Tiger bias that comes, most likely, from some painful episode in his past, like a skinny package in April. So predictable. Talk about deep-seated issues. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2125 |
02-06-18 05:32 PM - Post#246431
I'm pretty certain that if we want to get into a mud-slinging contest about which institution can claim more filthy capitalist alumni, the Wharton School, and those who claim affiliation, like our you-know-who Doofus-In-Chief, wins, hands down I started off referring to him as "ShortFinger", an homage to the late, lamented Spy Magazine sobriquet. Lately I've just been calling him Dolt 45. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-06-18 06:55 PM - Post#246444
All the new lights do is make you realize what a truly awful arena this is. Does Princeton even have a student section anymore? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12480 |
02-06-18 07:16 PM - Post#246470
Big difference between off the ball fouls and touch offensive fouls that result in turnovers... |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2801 |
02-06-18 07:57 PM - Post#246546
You can let the anger out, big guy. We're here for you. |
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Old Bear Postdoc Posts 3988 |
02-06-18 09:14 PM - Post#246652
Do you know how much fun the thread is for us non-PPers? |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-06-18 09:15 PM - Post#246653
I would imagine that most of the IL was rooting for Penn tonight so, yes. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3765 |
02-06-18 09:15 PM - Post#246654
Sure. Chips. Shoulders. Thin envelopes. Whatever makes you feel good. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-06-18 09:17 PM - Post#246656
Princeton's long home win streak got broken in crazy fashion on Saturday night, but tonight thoroughly dismantled it. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-06-18 09:26 PM - Post#246658
It would have to be a decent sized win (by a couple possessions or more). It was a very decent sized win. Penn jumped from 182 to 140 tonight. https://kenpom.com/ |
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mshimmy Sophomore Posts 193 |
02-06-18 09:53 PM - Post#246668
It would have to be a decent sized win (by a couple possessions or more). It was a very decent sized win. It sure was.
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-07-18 03:47 PM - Post#246767
It would have to be a decent sized win (by a couple possessions or more). It was a very decent sized win. It sure was. And not for nothing, but I was very prescient in my prediction that Penn would win by enough to overtake Princeton. I was so elated after the win at Jadwin that I almost ran over to P38 to give him a hug. Almost... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-07-18 03:52 PM - Post#246770
Awwww...you actually would have gotten one after that game. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6391 |
02-07-18 03:59 PM - Post#246771
Funny, that is an enduring memory of the win at Michigan when Jerome hit that runner. Just spontaneously hugging strangers in our little contingent of Penn fans. The other thing last night reminded me of was the year we blew out Princeton at Jadwin after blowing the huge lead at home. It’s one thing to do it when your rival is down. It’s another to do it in what you expect to be a pretty even fight. |
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yoyo Senior Posts 355 |
02-07-18 04:21 PM - Post#246778
Did Penn play their best game of the season or is Princeton not that good? Or both? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-07-18 04:23 PM - Post#246779
Penn played very well. Utilized the inside-outside game to perfection and Princeton could not defend both. When Penn has guys hitting the 3, AJ will get single coverage. Great great gameplan by Donahue and execution by the team, led by Foreman, who had his best game in a Penn uniform. That being said, Princeton is undermanned and had one of its best players playing injured. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4439 |
02-07-18 04:32 PM - Post#246785
Wow... I rarely agree with P38, but I do here. Cannady has a good game and shoots 7-8, instead of 2-8, Penn might lose this game... From all appearances, Cannady was struggling with an injury. If we meet Princeton in the Ivy League tourney vs. a healthy Cannady, we could very likely see a different result.... |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-07-18 04:48 PM - Post#246793
Blame Cannady? |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-07-18 05:18 PM - Post#246807
You guys are smoking something. We have guys as hurt or more than Cannady. If he is out there, he is fine. Princeton is a good team, we just present some matchup problems they likely don't have with other teams. I would be surprised if they don't go at least 5-3/6-2 the rest of the way and end up at the Palestra. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-07-18 05:20 PM - Post#246809
No we don't---look, when a guy is working the stationary bike on the sideline, he is not healthy. And he was not healthy---all of our Iron 6 were in great shape. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-07-18 05:23 PM - Post#246810
FWIW, he was doing that during the Brown game, too. You could clearly see he was gimpy at one point, whereupon he left the court to ride the bike. He then proceeded to play inspirationally down the stretch--hitting some real tough bail out shots. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6391 |
02-07-18 05:26 PM - Post#246812
Maybe, but Cannady was doing the exact same thing with the bike against Brown, where he played all 45 minutes and scored 27. The night after playing 40+ and scoring 16 on Yale while doing the same with the bike. So i’m not sure he was doing anything different from what he usually does. But who knows? |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-07-18 05:30 PM - Post#246813
No we don't---look, when a guy is working the stationary bike on the sideline, he is not healthy. And he was not healthy---all of our Iron 6 were in great shape. This is simply not true. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6391 |
02-07-18 05:36 PM - Post#246814
Yes, AJ looked like his back was bothering him against Yale and in the first half against Princeton. And then the second half started and he didn’t look so gimpy anymore. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-07-18 05:43 PM - Post#246816
Look, do I have to lecture you on the difference between soreness and injury? Our guys are NOT injured--to me, Cannady looked injured. But if Penn10 wants to regale us with his inside knowledge, I'm happy to hear it. Up close, no one appeared to be injured. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1878 |
02-07-18 06:02 PM - Post#246818
I don't know whether I'm not giving enough credit to our team, but I thought Princeton looked a bit flat from the marathon weekend. Our guys had every reason to be tired too, though. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32687 |
02-07-18 06:16 PM - Post#246821
We have 6 guys who are ready to play at a top level---they have 3 and 1 appeared to be hurt. It really makes a difference when you have 3 games in 5 days |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-07-18 06:27 PM - Post#246824
Right now our two bigs are also #2 and #3 on our team in assists. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-07-18 06:35 PM - Post#246829
Fake news |
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Charlie Fog Masters Student Posts 586 |
02-07-18 06:47 PM - Post#246832
The interior passing has been outstanding |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
02-07-18 07:03 PM - Post#246834
I get that many players aren't 100% at this point of the season and I don't know what's up with Cannady, but he was moving slower than anyone else out there and that isn't his usual speed. He still made some plays but he was mostly a non-factor on the offensive end. He stood in the corner most of the time. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3580 |
02-07-18 08:44 PM - Post#246837
I stand by my statement. My point is, if you guys are saying Cannady "looks hurt" because he played bad and rode a bike and our guys "look fine" because they played well, that is different from what is reality. Eddie They are all out there so they are all fine. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6391 |
02-07-18 09:33 PM - Post#246845
Not just fine — he basically played the entire game. And he sure looked fine on the one possession where Darnell was out, when he hit a 3 in about 5 seconds. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-07-18 09:40 PM - Post#246849
He definitely gave his team extended possessions in the second half by tapping loose rebounds back out or by grabbing them himself. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23200 |
02-07-18 09:40 PM - Post#246850
This is lame. We won. Who's next? |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-07-18 09:44 PM - Post#246852
Sadly, you and I won't be able to follow the next two. Who schedules a Harvard Saturday Ivy game at 4 pm when the Friday night Dartmouth game is at 7? Do they want to avoid Saturday night refs that badly? |
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11Quakers Sophomore Posts 123 |
02-07-18 10:37 PM - Post#246860
ESPN is responsible for the 4 o'clock starting time |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-07-18 10:49 PM - Post#246864
That is not going to be a fun turnaround time for Penn. |
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Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
02-07-18 11:38 PM - Post#246870
Princeton at Harvard is an ESPNU telecast, but Penn at Harvard is on NESN, also found on DirecTV Channel 628. I suspect that NESN, not ESPN, is responsible for the 4:00 pm game time. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21086 |
02-08-18 12:06 AM - Post#246873
There's a Bruins game that starts at 7. But sheesh, they have a whole hour of pre-game Bruins stuff. Unbelievable. |
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