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02-06-18 07:02 PM - Post#246445    

Putting this here to avoid the competing threads.

penn nation
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02-06-18 07:03 PM - Post#246446    

"Historic Jadwin gymnasium"?

Oy.
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02-06-18 07:03 PM - Post#246447    

Struggling first set, but nice tap out rebound from Max extends possession.

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02-06-18 07:04 PM - Post#246448    

Always a plus to get a Darnell 3.

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02-06-18 07:06 PM - Post#246449    

Nice start.

Princeton had a grueling weekend with 2 OT games - their Big 3 all logged 80+ minutes, Cannady went almost the full 90.

Run them into the ground immediately.

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02-06-18 07:06 PM - Post#246450    

Another O-board, and the actually get a score.

And awesome transition results in a Woods layup. Mitch forced to call a timeout, Penn up 8-0.

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02-06-18 07:06 PM - Post#246451    

Nice recovery by AJ leading to a Betley 3.
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02-06-18 07:06 PM - Post#246453    

Hey Stu: How about a link?
penn nation
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02-06-18 07:07 PM - Post#246454    

He gave you one in another thread.
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02-06-18 07:08 PM - Post#246455    

Yikes. Now a Woods 3 to go with Betley and Foreman.

Aggressive defense has Princeton all out of sorts.

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02-06-18 07:08 PM - Post#246456    

It's raining threes.

Mitch Henderson starting to look a little like Joe Scott out there.
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02-06-18 07:09 PM - Post#246457    

Tony 3 stroke looking good.
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02-06-18 07:09 PM - Post#246458    

Princeton finally on the board with LeBlanc 3. 11-3.

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02-06-18 07:10 PM - Post#246459    

Didn't work
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02-06-18 07:10 PM - Post#246460    

The fake flop does not fool the Tuesday night refs.
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02-06-18 07:10 PM - Post#246461    

Man, Woods just missed a wide open A.J. in the paint, and then Betley blows it at the rim after a great cut.

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02-06-18 07:11 PM - Post#246462    

Great pass by Foreman to Betley but he cannot finish.
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02-06-18 07:11 PM - Post#246463    

Stephens drive and teardrop in the lane and it’s 13-5 Quakers at the first media timeout.

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02-06-18 07:12 PM - Post#246464    

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02-06-18 07:12 PM - Post#246465    

Hard to imagine anyone predicted this start. Quakers came ready to play.
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02-06-18 07:14 PM - Post#246466    

Caleb off the bench and immediately makes the aggressive drive from the top of the key for the and-1.

Misses the FT.

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02-06-18 07:14 PM - Post#246467    

Wow, who is No. 10?
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02-06-18 07:14 PM - Post#246468    

Silpe also in.

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02-06-18 07:15 PM - Post#246469    

Silpe needs to stay with his man.
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02-06-18 07:17 PM - Post#246471    

Back on the bench.
10Q
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02-06-18 07:18 PM - Post#246472    

Thanks!!
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02-06-18 07:18 PM - Post#246473    

Some 3 from Betley.
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02-06-18 07:18 PM - Post#246474    

Great transition 3 by Betley!
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02-06-18 07:19 PM - Post#246475    

Darnell just made the worst in-bound pass possible, but Stephens blows the layup in transition.

Betley with the 3, and then after a Canady missed 3 goes all the way in transition for the layup. Mitch has to call another timeout, 20-8 Penn.

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02-06-18 07:19 PM - Post#246476    

Betley's looking sharp. 20-8.
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02-06-18 07:19 PM - Post#246478    

Got to keep up the intensity and build up the lead.

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02-06-18 07:19 PM - Post#246479    

If you need a link, try this one.
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02-06-18 07:19 PM - Post#246480    

And now a tremendous driving bank by Betley. He can do it all and Henderson once again calls time.
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02-06-18 07:21 PM - Post#246481    

Right now, we just need to take care of the ball. Princeton's not having much success stopping us either down low or from distance. Passing has been sharp.
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02-06-18 07:21 PM - Post#246482    

Nice cut by Foreman and feed by Brodeur.
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02-06-18 07:22 PM - Post#246483    

Got to defend the Princeton Soups.
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02-06-18 07:22 PM - Post#246484    

Great tic-tac-toe bounce passing Wood to Broderick to Foreman for easy layup,

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02-06-18 07:24 PM - Post#246485    

Wood's not hitting from long distance.
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02-06-18 07:27 PM - Post#246486    

You mean Wood?
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02-06-18 07:27 PM - Post#246487    

Stephens 3 cuts it to 4, then a Max turnover eventually ends in a Stephens offensive board and put back to make it 25-23.

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02-06-18 07:28 PM - Post#246488    

They are shutting down our front line totally.
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02-06-18 07:29 PM - Post#246489    

  • tguru Said:
You mean Wood?



Yes. Caleb clanked a couple early.

Betley breaks the drought. Need the FT coming up.
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02-06-18 07:29 PM - Post#246491    

Betley with another strong drive for the and-1 chance coming out of the under 4:00 timeout. 27-23 Penn, FT coming after break.

10Q
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02-06-18 07:29 PM - Post#246492    

Bring in Sam.
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02-06-18 07:30 PM - Post#246493    

Looks like the coaching staff has gone to a short rotation. The only subs so far have been Silpe and Wood.
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02-06-18 07:31 PM - Post#246494    

Please defend their stars.
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02-06-18 07:32 PM - Post#246495    

  • tguru Said:
Please defend their stars.



Princeton is positioning Stephens on the wing more. Daring Max to step out and defend him.
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02-06-18 07:32 PM - Post#246496    

And Ryan hits the bonus.

They was the under 8:00 timeout BTW. 6:30 left.

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02-06-18 07:33 PM - Post#246497    

Terrible entry pass, picked off.
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02-06-18 07:33 PM - Post#246498    

Great pass from Max to A.J. on baseline, and he blows the layup.

Sloppy play right now. Another turnover.

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02-06-18 07:34 PM - Post#246499    

Bell spins into the lane on Broderick, who gives up the layup and the cheap foul. That’s 2.

28-26 Penn.

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02-06-18 07:35 PM - Post#246500    

Max should have gone back out to Wood on the wing.
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02-06-18 07:35 PM - Post#246501    

Betley 3 deflected.

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02-06-18 07:37 PM - Post#246502    

Offense has gone totally dead. Totally dependent on Betley making things happen. Not good.

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02-06-18 07:37 PM - Post#246503    

Foreman drives into danger against the shotblockers, but manages to draw the bailout foul from Gladson. Bell angry at his teammate because he had the shot blocked if not for the bump.

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02-06-18 07:38 PM - Post#246505    

It’s Princeton big lineup against Max & four guards, and the bigs are winning at moment.

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02-06-18 07:39 PM - Post#246506    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
Great pass from Max to A.J. on baseline, and he blows the layup.

Sloppy play right now. Another turnover.



I thought AJ got some heavy D on the bunny.
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02-06-18 07:40 PM - Post#246507    

Darnell makes both FTs. 30-26, 3:30 left.

Wood misses another 3.

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02-06-18 07:41 PM - Post#246509    

Max could by Brennan on overplay, 1-and-1 coming.

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02-06-18 07:41 PM - Post#246510    

Two swishes from Darnell at that.
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02-06-18 07:41 PM - Post#246511    

Misses front end.

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02-06-18 07:42 PM - Post#246512    

Silly foul by Silpe.
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02-06-18 07:43 PM - Post#246513    

Max with another short arm 4 footer.
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02-06-18 07:43 PM - Post#246514    

Much and Max trade weak post up attempts, and Silpe fouls Canady on rebound.

He of course makes both in 1-and-1.

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02-06-18 07:43 PM - Post#246516    

Not having a good game out there so far.
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02-06-18 07:44 PM - Post#246517    

Gotta reboot the offense.
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02-06-18 07:44 PM - Post#246518    

Awful sequence by Max - weak shot on one end, isn't paying attention to the drive on the other.

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02-06-18 07:44 PM - Post#246519    

Max can’t convert again in the post, and Canady abuses Foreman off the bounce for the and-1. Princeton leads 31-30.

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02-06-18 07:44 PM - Post#246520    


Finally.
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02-06-18 07:44 PM - Post#246521    

Wood finally hits a 3 to put Quakers back up.

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02-06-18 07:45 PM - Post#246522    

Big man play by Woods.

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02-06-18 07:45 PM - Post#246523    

Wood hits the three, and Antonio goes to the line.
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02-06-18 07:45 PM - Post#246524    

Princeton turnover leads to Woods drive into Much’s chest. Can’t hit the shot, shooting 2.

penn nation
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02-06-18 07:45 PM - Post#246525    

Tale of two halves within the halves.

Or the halfs and the half nots.

Right now we're not.
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02-06-18 07:46 PM - Post#246526    

Makes 1-2, Betley taps the long rebound to a Wood who is fouled by Young.

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02-06-18 07:46 PM - Post#246527    

Are the FTs starting to come around?
penn nation
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02-06-18 07:46 PM - Post#246528    

Nice strong drive by Woods. Almost got the roll for the and one.
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02-06-18 07:46 PM - Post#246529    

Caleb makes both.

36-31 Penn, 1:25 left.

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02-06-18 07:46 PM - Post#246530    

Quakers back up by five.
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02-06-18 07:47 PM - Post#246532    

Foreman drives a gap, dumps it to Max who gets mugged and csnt hit layup.

Makes both FTs.

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02-06-18 07:49 PM - Post#246533    

Nice defensive sequence, only to end with Much making a ridiculous off balance shot.

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02-06-18 07:49 PM - Post#246534    

Oh man, Tigers offense totally shut down and Much hits a Cambridge-like turnaround from the foul line to bail them out.

38-33.

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02-06-18 07:50 PM - Post#246535    

Just got bailed out.

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02-06-18 07:50 PM - Post#246536    

Bailout foul by Cannady to send Wood to the line.

What do we have to do to keep Stephens off the offensive boards?
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02-06-18 07:50 PM - Post#246538    

Canady with the incredibly dumb foul as shot clock about to expire.

Wood makes both FTs.

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02-06-18 07:51 PM - Post#246539    

Foreman screws up yet another shot clock.
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02-06-18 07:52 PM - Post#246540    

Bell misses a three, but no one boxes out Stephens and he gets the rebound tip at the buzzer.

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02-06-18 07:53 PM - Post#246542    

Max was out on the perimeter and came in late, Antonio was in the lane but didn’t box out.

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02-06-18 07:54 PM - Post#246543    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
Bell misses a three, but no one boxes out Stephens and he gets the rebound tip at the buzzer.



I don't know about you, but I've seen this movie before.
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02-06-18 07:54 PM - Post#246544    

Penn 40-35 HALF.

penn nation
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02-06-18 08:03 PM - Post#246547    

I'll take where we're at right now.

FT shooting has been pretty decent, albeit some of the misses were front end ones.

Henderson made the first set of adjustments; now it's Donahue's turn to respond.


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02-06-18 08:05 PM - Post#246548    

Two tough teams.
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02-06-18 08:07 PM - Post#246550    

I'll take it as well. AJ is the only Penn player with two fouls.

Cannady, two fellow starters and two reserves all have two each for Princeton. If we can get them into the bonus early, that might help open up the offense.
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02-06-18 08:11 PM - Post#246551    

Max to A.J. cutting along the baseline and he gets the reverse layup -on the board to start the half!

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02-06-18 08:12 PM - Post#246552    

That was a FANTASTIC whip pass. Nice reception by AJ--Tom Brady, eat your heart out.
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02-06-18 08:12 PM - Post#246553    

Much post move off inbound, A.J. missed 3, and Stephens 3 cuts it to 2.

Now Brodeur gets the baby hook in the lane to go.

44-40.

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02-06-18 08:13 PM - Post#246554    

Penn picking up a lot of floor fouls here early.

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02-06-18 08:14 PM - Post#246555    

Thus far, they are not doubling our big guys and paying for it.
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02-06-18 08:15 PM - Post#246556    

Foreman gets inside and scores twice.
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02-06-18 08:15 PM - Post#246557    

Two big plays in the paint by Foreman put Quakers up 6.

penn nation
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02-06-18 08:16 PM - Post#246558    

NBA steps on that second one.
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02-06-18 08:16 PM - Post#246559    

Woods shoves Much aside, gets called for the offensive foul.

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02-06-18 08:17 PM - Post#246560    

Too bad, as the shot banked in.
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02-06-18 08:18 PM - Post#246561    

Yes an unfortunately obvious forearm shivver.

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02-06-18 08:19 PM - Post#246563    

True, although Much wasn't really set.
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02-06-18 08:20 PM - Post#246564    

Good Betley positional D against the bigger Mich forces a travel.

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02-06-18 08:20 PM - Post#246565    

Woods scores in the lane.
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02-06-18 08:20 PM - Post#246566    

Woods powers through Stephens for the layup. 50-42.

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02-06-18 08:21 PM - Post#246567    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
Good Betley positional D against the bigger Mich forces a travel.



DesRosiers I think

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02-06-18 08:21 PM - Post#246568    

AJ gets inside, scores, gets fouled and converts the three point play.
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02-06-18 08:22 PM - Post#246570    

A.J. with the strong step through in the post against Brennan for the 3-Point play. 53-42.

Now Stephens ends the 9-0 Penn run.

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02-06-18 08:24 PM - Post#246571    

How the hell do they score there?

I don't think Desrosiers has played tonight.

edit: box score says otherwise. He has one foul and has otherwise been shut out on the stat sheet.
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02-06-18 08:24 PM - Post#246572    

No box out on Bell, he gets the rebound, putback, and foul.

Brodeur abuses Gladson in the post.

55-47.

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02-06-18 08:25 PM - Post#246573    

Foreman with the steal!
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02-06-18 08:25 PM - Post#246574    

I know.

We have to take care of the boards. That's keeping Princeton in it right now.
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02-06-18 08:26 PM - Post#246575    

After Foreman intercepts a Stephens kickout pass to Bell, a frustrated Gladson fouls A.J. attempting to maneuver into the left block. Timeout.

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02-06-18 08:26 PM - Post#246576    

AJ not Rothschild scoring in the low post.
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02-06-18 08:27 PM - Post#246577    

AJ is taking advantage of single coverage defense and just backing their bigs under the basket.
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02-06-18 08:28 PM - Post#246578    

Our bigs are noticeably more effective than their bigs. That's the difference maker so far IMHO.
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02-06-18 08:28 PM - Post#246579    

Would not surprise me if Henderson goes back to daring Penn to shoot the 3 or, at minimum, doubling AJ once he gets the ball.
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02-06-18 08:30 PM - Post#246580    

Cannady in illegal guarding position gets popped, and yet they call the foul on Wood. Awful. Just awful.

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02-06-18 08:30 PM - Post#246581    

Horrible way to turn the ball over after the time out. Again, the basket is made but does not count.
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02-06-18 08:30 PM - Post#246582    

I don't like that call on Wood. An offensive player needs to be able to clear space. You can't give the defender that much of an advantage.

edit: they change the call and take the foul away from Wood.
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02-06-18 08:31 PM - Post#246583    

So they take the foul away. Good use of replay.

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02-06-18 08:32 PM - Post#246584    

Another strong Brodeur move and score.

57-47, 11:21 left.

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02-06-18 08:32 PM - Post#246585    

AJ is killing them.
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02-06-18 08:33 PM - Post#246586    

Now A.J. goes over Stephens. Continuing to kill their refusal to double.

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02-06-18 08:33 PM - Post#246587    

They finally doubled AJ but the move came too late.
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02-06-18 08:34 PM - Post#246588    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
So they take the foul away. Good use of replay.



Let's give credit where credit is due. That's a big reversal to make against the home team. The correct one, but still--that was a pivotal moment in this game.

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02-06-18 08:37 PM - Post#246589    

I think you're right. Huge momentum shift there, back in our favor, especially after we score again.
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02-06-18 08:38 PM - Post#246590    

Great kick out A.J. to Caleb for the 3. biggest lead.

Stephens answer in the post.

9:35 left as A.J. misses 3.

62-51 after Bell drive.

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02-06-18 08:38 PM - Post#246591    

Betley Wood just feels it.
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02-06-18 08:38 PM - Post#246592    

Betley for 3!

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02-06-18 08:39 PM - Post#246593    

Collapse the defense, find the open shooter.
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02-06-18 08:39 PM - Post#246594    

Silpe comes in, fails to box out, fouls Much on rebound.

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02-06-18 08:40 PM - Post#246596    

Betley goes out--so I'm guessing this is where Henderson will double down low.
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02-06-18 08:41 PM - Post#246597    

  • penn nation Said:
Betley goes out--so I'm guessing this is where Henderson will double down low.



Well, he comes back in so never mind.
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02-06-18 08:42 PM - Post#246599    

That time they doubled Max and he didn't do well to pass out of it effectively
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02-06-18 08:43 PM - Post#246600    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
Silpe comes in, fails to box out, fouls Much on rebound.



I'd love to hear Donahue after the game explain why he keeps giving Silpe chance after chance in this one.
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02-06-18 08:43 PM - Post#246601    

Sorry, that was Desrossier Silpe fouled. He’s had two good plays in a row now off the bench.

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02-06-18 08:44 PM - Post#246602    

He held the ball too long, and no one cut to the basket or made themselves available for a pressure relief pass.
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02-06-18 08:45 PM - Post#246603    

Right. That was our big problem last year with AJ.
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02-06-18 08:45 PM - Post#246604    

Too. Many. Offensive. Rebounds.

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02-06-18 08:46 PM - Post#246605    

Antonio baits Stephens into a traveling violation, Foreman scores.
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02-06-18 08:47 PM - Post#246606    

Great D by Woods to man up Stephens
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02-06-18 08:47 PM - Post#246607    

Another good Foreman drive, but Young quick 3 brings lead back to 10.

67-57, 6:27 left.

TheLine
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02-06-18 08:48 PM - Post#246609    

Foreman bossing tonight.

penn nation
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02-06-18 08:48 PM - Post#246610    

If you told me we'd be up 10 with 6:30 to play--I'd take it.
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:49 PM - Post#246611    

Foreman 3!

TheLine
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02-06-18 08:49 PM - Post#246612    

19 from Darnell.

weinhauers_ghost
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02-06-18 08:49 PM - Post#246613    

Way too early to gloat.

Betley with the steal.
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:50 PM - Post#246614    

Darnell proves he’s human, throws ball out of bounds on miscommunication with Betley

But Ryan strips Much to match turnovers.

penn nation
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02-06-18 08:50 PM - Post#246615    

Better yet, he's still two attempts away from 10.


Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:51 PM - Post#246616    

A.J. loses ball wide open under rim.

TheLine
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02-06-18 08:51 PM - Post#246617    

Princeton playing like they have had it.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:51 PM - Post#246618    

A.J. with the awesome step through again on Stephens and hits the layup as Cannady fouls him.

penn nation
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02-06-18 08:51 PM - Post#246619    

Now's about the time we should start using the whole shot clock.
weinhauers_ghost
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02-06-18 08:51 PM - Post#246620    

AJ beats the double team with the left hand!

Missed FT, though.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:52 PM - Post#246621    

Misses FT.

72-57. 4:26 left.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:52 PM - Post#246622    

Stephens drive and score.

BTW totally on board with Reece Davis’s McHale comparison for Brodeur.

TheLine
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02-06-18 08:53 PM - Post#246623    

Foreman schools Bell. Shoots 2. Makes 2.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:53 PM - Post#246624    

Foreman shooting 1-and-1, makes both. Back to 15.

penn nation
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02-06-18 08:53 PM - Post#246625    

Yes, the move definitely compared.
penn nation
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02-06-18 08:54 PM - Post#246626    

And now we had better start hitting our share of FTs.
91Quake
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02-06-18 08:54 PM - Post#246627    

Career night for Darnell!
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:54 PM - Post#246628    

Max powers through, and it’s 76-59.

TheLine
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02-06-18 08:54 PM - Post#246629    

LOL. Garbage time.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:55 PM - Post#246630    

Now a leak out by A.J. after Stephens miss, and it’s 19!


weinhauers_ghost
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02-06-18 08:55 PM - Post#246631    

Gorgeous fast break by Penn. Max to AJ for the finish.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:55 PM - Post#246632    

Woods draws the charge. Princeton looks morose.

penn nation
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02-06-18 08:56 PM - Post#246633    

Folks--it is a changing of the guard in the Ivy League tonight.

What a friggin statement this team is making.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:58 PM - Post#246634    

Max with the strong lefty drive, 80-59.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:58 PM - Post#246635    

Trading hoops now. PU not even trying on D.

weinhauers_ghost
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02-06-18 08:59 PM - Post#246636    

Princeton capitulates!
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 08:59 PM - Post#246637    

Garbage time.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 09:01 PM - Post#246638    

82-65 FINAL!

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 09:02 PM - Post#246639    

67% shooting in second half.

91Quake
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02-06-18 09:02 PM - Post#246640    

WOW! Was that a thing of beauty or what?????
weinhauers_ghost
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02-06-18 09:02 PM - Post#246641    

Simmons, Sam, JD, Goodman and McManus on the floor to close it out.
10Q
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02-06-18 09:03 PM - Post#246642    

Pinch me. I'm dreaming.
TheLine
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02-06-18 09:03 PM - Post#246643    

Love that Foreman could score 21 and still not violate Colin's Law.

Quakers03
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02-06-18 09:04 PM - Post#246644    

What a #%$@ performance from Darnell. There was no way he was losing again up here. None. Just awesome.
weinhauers_ghost
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02-06-18 09:08 PM - Post#246645    

That was a hell of a game. This team has got some guts and grit.
penn nation
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02-06-18 09:09 PM - Post#246646    

Last time Princeton lost by that much of a margin at Jadwin:

December 2, 2008 (84-58 to South Carolina)
tguru
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02-06-18 09:09 PM - Post#246647    

A 20pt win and they spent most of the night unable to capture errant missed kitten shots off the boards.
penn nation
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02-06-18 09:10 PM - Post#246648    

  • TheLine Said:
Love that Foreman could score 21 and still not violate Colin's Law.



With 2 shots to spare!

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
02-06-18 09:13 PM - Post#246651    

What’s particularly impressive about that for Foreman is that they basically weren’t guarding him from 20-8 feet, backing up and trying to entice him into the floaters he likes, and yet he didn’t force up a bunch of those low percentage 2s despite having all that space to roam.

AsiaSunset
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02-06-18 09:16 PM - Post#246655    

Thought we might squeeze out a win up there, but who expected that kind of butt whipping.
SomeGuy
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02-06-18 09:31 PM - Post#246660    

We even passed them in pomeroy, which those of us who only read the stats needed to see to prove that what our eyes have shown us over two games is really true.

We’re 140, they’re down to 162.

And this may be loser talk, but we’re right on the cusp of more or less clinching an ivy tournament berth. And I was hoping to come out of the weekend no worse than 6-2, so I already need to up my expectations/hopes.
penn nation
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02-06-18 09:37 PM - Post#246663    

We jumped from 182 to 140 in one game. Now THAT is impressive, especially this late in the year when it's harder to make larger single leaps or dips.
Penndemonium
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02-06-18 10:00 PM - Post#246669    

Darnell played the best game I've ever seen from him. I've harped on him quite a bit during the summer and early season. His performance shows that I was both right and wrong about him.

Earlier, I said he shot too much, was a low efficiency shooter, didn't keep his head up for assists, and didn't finish in the lane. The ball movement would die once he touched it.

Well, that was true for a while. But suddenly Darnell is playing within himself and really understands his role. He has shown great control. He has avoided the leaning fallaway mid-range shot which he took often but rarely seemed to hit. He has gotten much better at going all the way to the hoop. He doesn't hold the ball like Carmelo anymore - when there isn't anything to do, he dishes it off. He looks very confident as a leader and he is even hitting more FTs. .

It is so strange watching this team compared with last year. Most of the players are the same. But they seem so coachable this year. many of these players seemed so undisciplined in the past. I don't know what came over them, but this year we're seeing. Great teamwork, solid ball movement, good defensive effort, and real tenacity under pressure. Their shooting is improving due to far better shot selection.

My favorite Quaker teams were the '91-92 team and the Rosen Sr. Year team. Both of those teams were incredibly tough and gutsy. This may become my favorite of all if they continue to compete the way they have been.

Go Quakers!




Silver Maple
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02-06-18 10:04 PM - Post#246670    

I think the difference is mainly coaching. Guys being a year older is probably #2. Anybody have another explanation?
SomeGuy
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02-06-18 10:04 PM - Post#246671    

I assume Jeff will attack my exuberance, but what a great team win. Love the way the core 6 in the rotation plays offense together. Just pretty to watch, and fun to see how we play smart and exploit matchups. It’s really a pick your poison situation.

After the first game I questioned our decision to reduce Betley’s Motion in the second half and feed AJ. Having now seen it twice, I’ll happily concede I was wrong. Princeton apparently watched the Yale game and the first half and figured there was no need to double AJ. Seems like he just played possum until they let him isolate. And then he scored over and over, just like when people played him straight up last year.

On defense, our starters are versatile and play great team Defense. All of the starters had one of Princeton’s Big Three at some point. Obviously Foreman was the star tonight, guarding Cannady all game. The one possession Foreman sat, Cannady immediately hit a 3. So back came Darnell. He allowed one bucket in 37 minutes against a guy who is a big time scorer this year. While scoring 21 himself.




SomeGuy
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02-06-18 10:13 PM - Post#246673    

While that Rosen year was fun, that was a lot of hero ball improvisation. This is so much more thoughtful and structured.

The point about Princeton daring Foreman to shoot midrange is exactly right. Both Foreman and Woods seem very aware of what their historical weaknesses are, and know exactly how to exploit teams trying to exploit them. Wood too — it’s amazing how good he looks without all the turnovers from last year.
penn nation
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02-06-18 10:16 PM - Post#246676    

The Rosen years, you knew darn well who was going to be the hero. This season, as noted, it's more team oriented AND you never know from game to game who the hero will be. Much more satisfying.

I couldn't help but look at the IL press release this week on the POW, ROW and the Honor Roll. There was only one Penn player (Wood, not normally a starter) and despite the gaudy stats of many of the other players listed, Penn was the only team that actually went 2-0 on the week.
tguru
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02-06-18 10:30 PM - Post#246678    


The replay is available on ESPN 3
weinhauers_ghost
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02-06-18 10:58 PM - Post#246680    

  • SomeGuy Said:
I assume Jeff will attack my exuberance, but what a great team win. Love the way the core 6 in the rotation plays offense together. Just pretty to watch, and fun to see how we play smart and exploit matchups. It’s really a pick your poison situation.

After the first game I questioned our decision to reduce Betley’s Motion in the second half and feed AJ. Having now seen it twice, I’ll happily concede I was wrong. Princeton apparently watched the Yale game and the first half and figured there was no need to double AJ. Seems like he just played possum until they let him isolate. And then he scored over and over, just like when people played him straight up last year.

On defense, our starters are versatile and play great team Defense. All of the starters had one of Princeton’s Big Three at some point. Obviously Foreman was the star tonight, guarding Cannady all game. The one possession Foreman sat, Cannady immediately hit a 3. So back came Darnell. He allowed one bucket in 37 minutes against a guy who is a big time scorer this year. While scoring 21 himself.







Holding Cannady to 8 points on 2-8 shooting (1-5 from long range) was critical.
Penndemonium
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02-06-18 11:13 PM - Post#246681    

  • penn nation Said:
The Rosen years, you knew darn well who was going to be the hero. This season, as noted, it's more team oriented AND you never know from game to game who the hero will be. Much more satisfying.

I couldn't help but look at the IL press release this week on the POW, ROW and the Honor Roll. There was only one Penn player (Wood, not normally a starter) and despite the gaudy stats of many of the other players listed, Penn was the only team that actually went 2-0 on the week.



This is all true. I still appreciated that Rosen team because I don't think any team has outperformed their expectations as much as that one - but you are right that it was a completely one dimensional 'run down the clock and let Rosen improvise' strategy. That guy had a will to win like no other.

Lefteroo
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02-06-18 11:40 PM - Post#246683    

Great win. Team passes so well. I think SD is a terrific coach.
palestra38
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02-06-18 11:44 PM - Post#246684    

It was an awesome performance and despite there being only about 1500 at the game, it was great to be there. As for Cannady, he clearly is injured--he was riding the stationary bike any time he was out of the game. My guess is a back problem, but he was not the same player. But when your opponent is hurting, you put your foot on his throat and crush him. And that is what we did.

Amazing coaching job by Donahue---2nd straight time against Princeton where he made a major adjustment at halftime and it won the game.
Ted
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02-07-18 12:14 AM - Post#246686    

I think we can now safely say that our 10 year nightmare is officially over.
Charlie Fog
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02-07-18 07:51 AM - Post#246691    

I need Jeff to come to this thread and tell me "all that really happened".
10Q
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02-07-18 07:59 AM - Post#246692    

Let’s just hope we can keep this going. Long way to go.
10Q
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02-07-18 08:44 AM - Post#246693    

Just bought my tickets for March 11. The top row of the Palestra is the poorman's chairback section. You can lean back against the wall. Tickets are plentiful.
jeromelh
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02-07-18 08:47 AM - Post#246694    

As a Princeton guy, I cannot but admire the performance of the Quakers last night. What impressed me the most was your defense. Princeton's interior defense is slow and Penn's bigs took advantage.
palestra38
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02-07-18 09:13 AM - Post#246695    

Thanks. Penn, for the first time in years, has a core group of 6 guys who can really play---we're not giving much ground, if any, at any position and 6th man. And we have a coach who can coach---two games against Princeton where significant adjustments were made at halftime that worked. It's great to be out of the wilderness---your ride under Joe Scott was much shorter.
penn nation
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02-07-18 10:07 AM - Post#246698    

The Allen-Maloney teams were such fun to watch for their fantastic spacing, wonderful passing and superb finishing.

This bunch has those same qualities--not as talented as those earlier squads but just as dedicated on the team level.
10Q
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02-07-18 10:11 AM - Post#246699    

The talent level is pretty close.
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02-07-18 10:11 AM - Post#246700    

That team did not have any big men who could make the kind of moves we saw from AJ yesterday. Trice, Moore and Krug were all nice players without any of AJ's inside game. You put AJ on that team and they might have made the Final Four

Before we have a Big Man Controversy, I'll just note that AJ was only able to completely dominate the game when Max was out of the game and Princeton was beside itself trying to cover both Wood and Betley outside. Max has brought a lot to the table, but the next time I see AJ standing on the 3 point line wondering whether he should shoot, I will scream.
palestra38
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02-07-18 10:15 AM - Post#246702    

"The talent level [between this year and the Allen-Maloney team is pretty close."

Uh, no.

You know how much I love Antonio and the rest of these guys. But Allen and Maloney were NBA players and Pierce and Bowman were really really good. We don't have anyone now who will be considered or drafted by the NBA. This team has a slight advantage offensively inside. But that's it.
penn nation
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02-07-18 10:15 AM - Post#246703    

  • 10Q Said:
The talent level is pretty close.



I would disagree. Maloney and Allen were guys who played in the NBA. They were Ivy POYs. Bowman was a 6th man on those teams and after Allen and Maloney graduated he got an Ivy POY.

penn nation
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02-07-18 10:20 AM - Post#246704    

I basically agree, except with the Final Four comment. The ESPN commentator last night was asked by Rece Davis what he thought of Penn's chances in an NCAA tourney game should they quality. While praising them he also cautioned that Penn's big men wouldn't be able to body up Power 5 conference bigs the way they did against Princeton, and the same was certainly true of the Allen-Maloney squad. That bull of a player on Florida would have given AJ plenty of problems.

  • palestra38 Said:
That team did not have any big men who could make the kind of moves we saw from AJ yesterday. Trice, Moore and Krug were all nice players without any of AJ's inside game. You put AJ on that team and they might have made the Final Four

Before we have a Big Man Controversy, I'll just note that AJ was only able to completely dominate the game when Max was out of the game and Princeton was beside itself trying to cover both Wood and Betley outside. Max has brought a lot to the table, but the next time I see AJ standing on the 3 point line wondering whether he should shoot, I will scream.



10Q
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02-07-18 10:25 AM - Post#246705    

For all that "talent" those teams got exactly one tournament win. You accept that down low we have more talent on this team. Obviously the guards were more talented on that team. All together, not that much of a disparity.
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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02-07-18 10:27 AM - Post#246706    

  • penn nation Said:
That bull of a player on Florida would have given AJ plenty of problems.




Da Meathook!

See also: McDyess, Antonio

palestra38
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02-07-18 10:33 AM - Post#246708    

Just incorrect. But it's an opinion, so I'll leave it at that.
TheLine
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02-07-18 10:48 AM - Post#246710    

Yes, the team functions well with AJ as the only big, not so well when Max is. And yes, let's let this team stand on its own and not compare it to the Allen-Maloney team.

It helped that Princeton was gassed from the weekend. Other than that stretch of about 6 minutes from around minute 10 of the first half to minute 16, we ran at them at hard. That was the correct approach.

And man, did Darnell have it last night. I'm happy to finally not be the lone Darnell supporter. He's a good player when he plays within himself and doesn't force the action.

The best part is when you look at this team, other than AJ it's a bunch of recruiting afterthoughts.

- Darnell was a consolation prize of a recruit when Allen couldn't find anyone better. Was any other D1 college of note even pursuing him?
- Antonio got looks from majors but only if he'd play football. Penn was willing to let him focus on basketball. I'm pretty sure Penn was the best basketball-only offer he got.
- Max wasn't heavily recruited. Mo Esformes got more attention on this board than Max. So did everyone else in his recruiting class - Jake, Jackson, Collin.
- Anyone could've had Caleb Wood out of JuCo.
- Betley was a prototypical generic 2 star wing receiving lower level Ivy and Patriot League interest.

palestra38
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02-07-18 10:56 AM - Post#246711    

Yes, it helped that Princeton didn't have the energy of the first game, but Penn played just as many minutes. The fact that Cannady has an injury and yet played almost the entire game didn't help them. But the way we played yesterday we would have won anyway.

Let me say--this team is in GREAT shape. Look at the minutes played by that Iron 6 and only once or twice did anyone look tired---and they came back from a 2-3 minute break and brought it just as hard.
TheLine
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02-07-18 11:02 AM - Post#246713    

Princeton played 5 extra minutes on Saturday. Against Brown, who at this point I'd pick to make the top 4. It makes a difference when Penn didn't have as tough a game on Saturday against a Yale team that played with heavy legs.

Cannady played all 45 on Saturday after playing 43 on Friday - no wonder he wasn't at his best. Stephens and Bell weren't too far behind in minutes. Princeton's heavily reliant on those 3. They all faded down the stretch.


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02-07-18 11:02 AM - Post#246714    

  • Quote:
While praising them he also cautioned that Penn's big men wouldn't be able to body up Power 5 conference bigs the way they did against Princeton



Harvard’s defense this weekend will most closely approximate this, ranked in the top 75 nationally in 2-pt. %, and top 50 in block %.


palestra38
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02-07-18 11:03 AM - Post#246715    

I go back to our early prognostications and I wondered how Princeton could possibly replace Weisz and Cook. They haven't. Those two guys made them really good last year and the freshmen are not at that level--and it is a question whether they ever will be. And even Pete Miller would have helped on defensing AJ. And although hurt, I will note that Caruso is averaging 12 ppg and 7 rebounds for Santa Clara (then there is Brase). They were absolutely loaded last year and this fall off should have been expected.
Okoro Dude
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02-07-18 11:13 AM - Post#246716    

No, there is a huge disparity. Those teams were top 50-70 in the country. This team is closer to top 150 and has only beaten one team in the top 150 (#142 Dayton). This team's offense is near the bottom 100 in the country. Allen/Maloney team went 14-0 one year and didn't have a game against an Ivy in single digits.

I am enjoying this team and their gritty play immensely - but let's not go crazy.
TheLine
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02-07-18 11:13 AM - Post#246717    

Princeton was a default #1. Yes, there was a drop-off but what was their competition going to be? Yale was banged up, I don't know what to expect from an Amaker Harvard team, it seemed a year early for Penn, and no other team seemed ready to make the leap.

palestra38
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02-07-18 11:15 AM - Post#246719    

I thought Harvard was the team to beat, but I see your point on who knows what to expect from Amaker teams. With respect to Princeton, it's really tough to win with 3 guards and then freshmen.
PennFan10
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02-07-18 11:45 AM - Post#246725    

We did play well with AJ as the lone big for a stretch. Princeton also did not double him and that’s a mistake. They doubled Max and he dished 6 dimes.

While our offense is better when AJ is the lone big and the other team doesn’t double, our defense and rebounding (the main reason we are in this position) are not sufficient. This teams identity is around defense and rebounding. Likely not going to change.
palestra38
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02-07-18 11:56 AM - Post#246727    

I wasn't suggesting that---and frankly, given the Iron Man 6 Donahue has gone to, it isn't going to happen. I just think at times, we should let Max come outside and have AJ get the inside on offense.
10Q
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02-07-18 12:09 PM - Post#246729    

The nice thing about our Iron 6 is that we have a ton of solid depth behind them. It's not like we have to bring in freshmen if someone gets in foul trouble.
TheLine
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02-07-18 12:22 PM - Post#246731    

Well, the 7th guy is a Freshman - and he's good enough to take on more minutes.

Scott would also be in the mix if he didn't get injured.

SomeGuy
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02-07-18 12:28 PM - Post#246732    

Agreed on this. Without Max, we’d have a different identity, and AJ might be averaging 17+ per game. We also wouldn’t be as good overall.
penn nation
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02-07-18 12:34 PM - Post#246733    

I brought up Allen-Maloney simply in the context of certain qualities that were fun to watch. I in no way suggested that the current squad is their equal overall and apologize if anyone was left with that impression.

That said I do not think I will get tired of seeing that espn3 replay anytime soon. 😃
SomeGuy
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02-07-18 12:35 PM - Post#246734    

That Princeton team last year was just so versatile. You had a lot of guys who could play inside and out, cover guards or forwards, etc. I thought they could win with 3 two way players and filling in pieces around them. However, the most experienced 5, which would add Young and Brennan to those 3, seems mismatched. There still might be a mix that works for them, and the last two at home are just two games, but it did look like they may need to go back to the drawing board.
Streamers
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02-07-18 01:11 PM - Post#246742    

  • penn nation Said:
I brought up Allen-Maloney simply in the context of certain qualities that were fun to watch. I in no way suggested that the current squad is their equal overall and apologize if anyone was left with that impression.



If we must draw comparisons, I would say this squad more resembles the Jordan/Langel/Romanczuk/R yan teams; they were better (nothing quite like Jordan on this team) but not quite as deep as this crew.
SomeGuy
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02-07-18 01:14 PM - Post#246744    

Maybe, but have we really seen that happen with AJ against anyone? If anything, what I would like about playing a 2 or 3 seed (if we are lucky enough to get there) is that they probably would play AJ one on one. Even very good teams do that at their peril. It’s the same dynamic that resulted in Ugonna getting beaten up by double teams and various stunts in the Ivy season, and then going off against better players in the tourney. Moore and Trice weren’t going to do that against serious high major frontcourts, the win at Michigan notwithstanding.
LyleGold
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02-07-18 01:19 PM - Post#246745    

Ignoring the part about single digits, the Allen-Maloney team went 14-0 THREE STRAIGHT YEARS.
rbg
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02-07-18 02:00 PM - Post#246746    

FWIW - looking at 2 and 3 points shooting for the Quakers and their opponents.

Penn 3 Pt Shooting
For the season 34%; In conference 35%
Last night: 38% (9-24; 6-13 1st half & 3-11 2nd half)

Penn Opponents' 3 Pt Shooting
For the season 30%; In conference 26%
Last night: 28% (7-25; 5-13 1st half & 2-12 2nd half)

Penn 2 Pt Shooting
For the season 52%; In conference 52%
Last night: 66% (21-32; 6-16 1st half & 15-16! 2nd half)

Penn Opponents' 2 Pt Shooting
For the season 47%; In conference 50%
Last night: 50% (16-32; 7-15 1st half & 9-17 2nd half)
palestra38
Professor
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02-07-18 02:17 PM - Post#246749    

And we were 9-21 from 3 before Jones and Donahue managed to brick 3 3-point shots in the last 2 minute garbage time
penn nation
Professor
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02-07-18 04:29 PM - Post#246783    

  • rbg Said:

Penn 2 Pt Shooting
For the season 52%; In conference 52%
Last night: 66% (21-32; 6-16 1st half & 15-16! 2nd half)



Just finished watching the 2nd half...again.

Let it be noted that every made 2 point shot in that second half came in the paint, and almost all within a couple of feet from the hoop.

The only miss was far away from the hoop--that was one of the few successful Princeton defensive efforts. Max was double teamed away from the basket, no-one really came to help, and by the time he lobbed a long pass to a teammate we had to throw up a bail out two just to beat the shot clock.

In addition, the momentum shift can't be stressed enough when the officials reversed that offensive foul with Wood vs Cannady. There were 12 minutes left in the game and the lead, which had been 11, was cut to 8. Penn got the ball back and Princeton would never get any closer for the remainder of the contest.

yoyo
Senior
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02-07-18 04:30 PM - Post#246784    

  • LyleGold Said:
Ignoring the part about single digits, the Allen-Maloney team went 14-0 THREE STRAIGHT YEARS.



It is a lot tougher to go 14-0 now in this league.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32803
02-07-18 04:32 PM - Post#246786    

Well, they looked at it for over 5 minutes, so I gather they got it right. But all it was was Wood straightening up--that's not an offensive foul.

I don't think it would have mattered.
penn nation
Professor
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02-07-18 04:56 PM - Post#246799    

The reversal was warranted. It was also a momentum shifter. Princeton was hanging around up until that point. They could have cut it to a 2 possession game if the call was allowed to stand....and then, who knows.

Instead, after Penn scored immediately after the reversal, Princeton was no closer than 4 possessions for the remainder of the game--and sometimes not even that close.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32803
02-07-18 05:00 PM - Post#246804    

Yes, but they were finished. The pace had killed them. That's why I am so impressed with the Penn conditioning---Foreman, Woods and Betley essentially played the whole game with Wood taking about 10 minutes each from AJ and Max. McDonald got 2 minutes and there were 2 minutes of garbage time. But these guys looked like they could run another game.
Charlie Fog
Masters Student
Posts 586
02-07-18 06:11 PM - Post#246819    

It’s nice to be able to get silpe in there to add a spark and give woods a blow
TheLine
Professor
Posts 5597
02-07-18 06:55 PM - Post#246833    

I rewatched the game. It was a an even better performance than the first viewing.

Cannady wasn't moving well at all, and kept slowing down as the game wore on. Foreman was guarding him, at some point he realized Cannady was just drifting to the corner every play and not moving much so he was more aggressive with his help defense, clogging passing lanes and doubling balls to the post.

The hot start was key. Princeton expended a lot of energy to climb back into the game but Penn continued to run at Princeton and it was taking a hidden toll. This sequence burst their bubble after Princeton took their one lead of the game at 30-31 :

- A doubled Rothschild hits a wide open Wood outside the arc. No one comes close to coming out to challenge. 33-31
- Foreman alertly picks off a pass, races down the court and hits Woods for a drive. Woods takes on Much, gets fouled, hits the first FT. 34-31
- Woods misses the second FT but Young commits a silly foul defending Wood on the rebound. Wood hits 2. 36-31
- No movement by Princeton on the offensive end. Stephens, guarded well by Rothschild, settles for a long shot and misses.
- Foreman attacks. The Princeton D is in disarray and no one picks him up. Instead of shooting from the outside, Foreman drives, draws attention, and lays it off to Rothschild who gets fouled by Bell. Max hits 2. 38-31

A tired Princeton team was saved by Stephens' tip-in before the 1st half buzzer but it didn't take too long for Penn to exploit them again. Donahue moved Brodeur to the low post on offense and Henderson decided the D would play him straight up. It turned out to be a big mistake. It was all over. Foreman pantsing the Princeton guards was icing on the cake.

Donahue had a good strategy all game and Henderson had trouble countering, but I'm not sure Henderson had much to counter with.

SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6404
02-07-18 11:20 PM - Post#246866    

Just to put some stats on the difference in Caleb, last year his turnover percentage was 26.0. This year he is at 7.4. Only Cambridge has a lower percentage, and Cannady and Corey Johnson are the only others in the league even under 10%.

While not playing point obviously makes a difference, his usage rate is nearly identical to last year at 22%. And he’s started to do more point guard things as time goes on, to boot. Just a huge difference from last year in taking care of the ball.



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