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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-24-18 10:26 PM - Post#249401
TUESDAY #9 Army at #8 Loyola #10 American at #7 Lafayette THURSDAY #8/9 winner at #1 Bucknell #5 Boston University at #4 Lehigh #7/10 winner at #2 Colgate #6 Holy Cross at #3 Navy |
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757 |
02-24-18 11:11 PM - Post#249412
Part of me thinks Colgate has a better path to the final than Bucknell. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-25-18 12:06 AM - Post#249421
Part of me thinks Colgate has a better path to the final than Bucknell. They swept everyone in their side of the bracket, except for Lafayette, which swept the Raiders. I think everyone on that side is happy to start off away from Lehigh and Bucknell. That said, as you scan the entire bracket, it's easy to imagine any one of those matchups going either way. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
02-25-18 10:31 AM - Post#249454
Lehigh is definitely the scariest team right now so having them in our half is less than ideal. That said, the silver lining is that I think Lehigh would travel the largest contingent to Sojka for a final should we make it. I don’t see them traveling as well for a semifinal matchup. Also, let’s not overlook Boston U. They have shown signs of life for parts of the past two games. I also feel like Lehigh has had first round games played a lot closer than expected in the past, so I could see BU pulling the upset. Either way, Bucknell is in for a tough semifinal game if they escape Thursday. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-25-18 07:41 PM - Post#249528
Ok! So in the quarters we have to play a team that has already beaten us and in finals we likely play a team that had us beat, until they didn’t and then had us really beaten until a miracle occurred. Assuming we get to the final, we better be ready. Hopefully that will be the case ala LU last year. Not sure if i’d rather LU or Boston. Both have had pretty good luck in Sojka. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-25-18 08:15 PM - Post#249529
Nothing in the tournament is easy. We are the most talented team in the league. We just need to play like it. We could just as easily be 10-6 instead of 16-2. But the guys have found a way to win in some tough situations. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-25-18 09:02 PM - Post#249533
12-6 not 10-6. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-25-18 09:54 PM - Post#249535
Ok! So in the quarters we have to play a team that has already beaten us and in finals we likely play a team that had us beat, until they didn’t and then had us really beaten until a miracle occurred. I think you meant semis, which brings up the point that first we have to either beat a team that led us with under five minutes left in the game at their place, or one that led by 19 and took us all the way to overtime on our home court.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-25-18 09:59 PM - Post#249536
As assistant coach Paul Harrison said in his most recent postgame interview, "We have to embrace how difficult winning the tournament will be." To be clear, he wasn't moderating expectations; he was talking about the team having the proper focus and mindset and fully appreciating and attacking the challenge that lies before them, one possession at a time. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
02-25-18 10:03 PM - Post#249538
Lehigh is definitely the scariest team right now . . . BUCKNELL is the scariest team right now!
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-25-18 10:17 PM - Post#249539
Lehigh is definitely the scariest team right now . . . BUCKNELL is the scariest team right now! But the scariest team in a single elimination tournament is far and away the one we face next, so that's a tie between Army and Loyola. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-26-18 12:20 AM - Post#249544
Ok! So in the quarters we have to play a team that has already beaten us and in finals we likely play a team that had us beat, until they didn’t and then had us really beaten until a miracle occurred. I think you meant semis, which brings up the point that first we have to either beat a team that led us with under five minutes left in the game at their place, or one that led by 19 and took us all the way to overtime on our home court. You are right BRW, I meant the semis. As for my comments about Colgate I leave them as I stated them. The first game was a nice comeback, rather late. The second was nothing short of a miracle, but no OT. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-26-18 12:34 AM - Post#249545
Yes, I was describing the possible quarterfinal foes. Edited for clarity:
I think you meant semis, which brings up the point that first we have to either beat a team that led us with under five minutes left in the game at their place (LOYOLA), or one that led by 19 and took us all the way to overtime on our home court (ARMY). |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
02-26-18 09:39 AM - Post#249554
A crazy stat I was just thinking about is that it has been nearly a decade since the Bison played a road PLT game. The last road PLT game came in Paulsen’s first year (08-09) when Bucknell lost at Holy Cross as a 7 seed. Most of this is due to frequently earning the 1 seed, but Bucknell has also flamed out early as the 2 seed or 4 seed at home on a pair of occasions to prevent a subsequent road game. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
02-26-18 09:51 AM - Post#249555
A crazy stat I was just thinking about is that it has been nearly a decade since the Bison played a road PLT game. The last road PLT game came in Paulsen’s first year (08-09) when Bucknell lost at Holy Cross as a 7 seed. Most of this is due to frequently earning the 1 seed, but Bucknell has also flamed out early as the 2 seed or 4 seed at home on a pair of occasions to prevent a subsequent road game. BUFan, the Bison have had an incredible run over the past 13-14 years. I met up with a buddy of mine from the Class of '88 at the American game over the weekend, and we were talking about the last time that we saw Bucknell vs. American in DC. We figured out that it was winter 2005! Bucknell lost and then, they went on to beat Kansas in the Dance. We were almost rooting for Bucknell to lose on Saturday (not really). May the fun continue for many years to come, but for now, I am hoping for a nice 3 game run and 1 or 2 more thereafter.
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
02-26-18 10:56 AM - Post#249560
I recall being at that same game. I believe it was a Friday night and Bender was a sea of orange. If my memory is correct, I believe Nathan Davis was coaching the Bison that night, as Flannery went out on his medical leave. |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-26-18 11:37 AM - Post#249573
Yes, I was describing the possible quarterfinal foes. Edited for clarity:
I think you meant semis, which brings up the point that first we have to either beat a team that led us with under five minutes left in the game at their place (LOYOLA), or one that led by 19 and took us all the way to overtime on our home court (ARMY). Got it, sorry for any misunderstanding. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
02-26-18 11:47 AM - Post#249574
Kenpom.com has posted the likelihood of each PL team winning the PL Tournament. The top 4 are as follows: 1. Bucknell 69.2% 2. Colgate 13.6% 3. Navy 8.9% 4. Lehigh 4.8% https://t.co/lJm3qvFkXK Personally, I think that if the Bison win the first 2, I would bet the farm that they will win the 3rd. I am more concerned about the 1st & 2nd rounds.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-26-18 01:02 PM - Post#249589
The Lehigh percentage seems absurdly low. I’m guessing KenPom doesn’t give more weight to recent performance? |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
02-26-18 01:06 PM - Post#249591
which brings up the point that first we have to either beat a team that led us with under five minutes left in the game at their place, or one that led by 19 and took us all the way to overtime on our home court. How about glass half full, either a team we just beat by 41 or a team we led from start to finish on the road to beat them by 17 at their place. While anyone can win any given game, I like our odds as a fan. (Players probably ought to look at it your way.)
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res Masters Student Posts 839 |
02-26-18 01:14 PM - Post#249596
The Lehigh percentage seems absurdly low. I’m guessing KenPom doesn’t give more weight to recent performance? I don't believe he does. I know he has considered doing so but he didn't think that it improved his results. But, also don't forget, those probabilities also take into account that Lehigh (and Navy) will be playing on the road in the semis assuming all favorites get through the quarters. Also, Navy would be playing Colgate while Lehigh would be on the road at the overwhelming favorite. That goes a long way in explaining Colgate's and Navy's better odds at getting to and winning the final vis a vis Lehigh's. The fact that we're concerned about a Lehigh game because of how the teams match up is overwhelmed by all of the other data in kenpom's analysis. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-26-18 02:39 PM - Post#249610
How about glass half full, either a team we just beat by 41 or a team we led from start to finish on the road to beat them by 17 at their place. That's a glass half full of hubris!
(Players probably ought to look at it your way.) Indeed, and easier for them to do so if the rest of the Bucknell community does too. One possession at a time, baby. Let's go! |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-26-18 08:20 PM - Post#249678
The Lehigh percentage seems absurdly low. I’m guessing KenPom doesn’t give more weight to recent performance? The fact that we're concerned about a Lehigh game because of how the teams match up is overwhelmed by all of the other data in kenpom's analysis. And that is about as clear an explanation of kenpom as ever I have seen, lol! |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-26-18 09:00 PM - Post#249688
Tournament preview from The Morning Call http://www.mcall.com/sports/mc-spt-patriot -tourney... |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-26-18 11:53 PM - Post#249707
Tourney preview at Busting Brackets https://bustingbrackets.com/2018/02/26/patriot-le a... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
02-27-18 10:42 AM - Post#249723
Tonight's games: Army at Loyola American at Lafayette Personally, I think that Army and Lafayette will win, but I would not be surprised if Loyola ends up winning at home.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-27-18 12:59 PM - Post#249732
Personally, I think that Army and Lafayette will win, but I would not be surprised if Loyola ends up winning at home. KenPom favors Army, but I think the Greyhounds will prevail on a heckuva performance by senior Andre Walker. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
02-27-18 03:08 PM - Post#249751
Personally, I think that Army and Lafayette will win, but I would not be surprised if Loyola ends up winning at home. KenPom favors Army, but I think the Greyhounds will prevail on a heckuva performance by senior Andre Walker. BRW, I agree that Andre Walker is the wild-card in this game. He is a VERY good player who would have looked great in Orange and Blue.
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
02-27-18 08:04 PM - Post#249763
FYI the Loyola game is on Stadium TV. Jason Knapp appears to be back from his sabbatical of announcing curling. |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-27-18 10:07 PM - Post#249778
It's Loyola. Pretty good game. The boys will need to be ready. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548 |
02-27-18 10:15 PM - Post#249780
I forget his exact quote but when Walker was asked postgame about playing Bucknell next, he said something like "we got our work cut out for us, but nobody's unbeatable, except Mayweather" |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
02-27-18 10:35 PM - Post#249782
Didn’t appear to be much defense at Lafayette. If they shoot that well on Thursday Colgate could be in trouble. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
02-27-18 10:37 PM - Post#249783
Wow, Sa'eed Nelson with a career-high 41. Painful to have that in a losing effort. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
02-28-18 12:23 AM - Post#249798
Wow, Sa'eed Nelson with a career-high 41. Painful to have that in a losing effort. Final score was 93-86. Usually games with that sort of score have a very fast tempo and tons of shots. However this game only had 67 possessions per team, not a fast pace at all. AU shot .625 on twos and .423 on threes, while LC was .425 on twos and .650 (12-19) on threes. Only 19 turnovers between the two teams. Impressive offensive - but awful defense. If Gasperini, who is a quality big man, is able to return from his serious concussion next year, AU could definitely challenge for the first division. That assumes Nelson returns. Some rumors (unconfirmed) about a possible transfer gave been floating around.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
02-28-18 10:15 AM - Post#249817
Wow, Sa'eed Nelson with a career-high 41. Painful to have that in a losing effort. Final score was 93-86. Usually games with that sort of score have a very fast tempo and tons of shots. However this game only had 67 possessions per team, not a fast pace at all. AU shot .625 on twos and .423 on threes, while LC was .425 on twos and .650 (12-19) on threes. Only 19 turnovers between the two teams. Impressive offensive - but awful defense. If Gasperini, who is a quality big man, is able to return from his serious concussion next year, AU could definitely challenge for the first division. That assumes Nelson returns. Some rumors (unconfirmed) about a possible transfer gave been floating around. In general, if a team shoot ".625 on twos and .423 on threes", I would bet on them to win 99.99% of the time. Sa'eed Nelson has really developed into a nice player. I agree that it is a shame that he put up 41 and still lost. From the final scores of both games, it looks like the word DEFENSE was not mentioned that often last night.
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
02-28-18 08:26 PM - Post#249944
Our friends in Vegas have weighed in on tomorrow's games: Bucknell -16 Lehigh -6.5 Colgate -7.5 Navy -8 Feels about right to me. I guess the only one that surprises me is that Navy is -8. I would've thought more like -5, but maybe that debacle at the Hart Center a few weeks ago is bumping the line. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
02-28-18 10:40 PM - Post#249964
Just thought I’d leave this here as we get ready for the PLT. http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=2260334 2 As GMU dominates the start of the clip, worth noting they won at VCU tonight on yet another buzzer beater (technically 0.7 left). |
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NoMoney89 Freshman Posts 89 |
02-28-18 10:49 PM - Post#249968
Just thought I’d leave this here as we get ready for the PLT. http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=2260334 2 As GMU dominates the start of the clip, worth noting they won at VCU tonight on yet another buzzer beater (technically 0.7 left). Aside from the Mackenzie 3 if you look further into the Oregon loss to Boise State you can hear the call from our former Radio man Bob Behler who has been the voice of the Broncos for the last few years (actually might be more than 10 now). It's available as a stand alone link on the ESPN site liked above |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
03-02-18 01:42 PM - Post#250163
Spring break status of the remaining schools: Bucknell and Colgate In session all tournament long; break starts Friday March 9 Boston University (BU) and Holy Cross On break for semifinal and final (break starts later today) |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-04-18 02:43 PM - Post#250756
Holy Cross giving CU their best, but it is starting to look like that won’t be enough. 54-48 Cu 2:30 left |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-04-18 02:44 PM - Post#250758
That should have been 54-48. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
03-04-18 02:45 PM - Post#250759
Colgate up multiple possessions in the final minute. What could possibly go wrong? |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
03-04-18 03:03 PM - Post#250765
It’s CU. Now we need take care of business. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-04-18 03:17 PM - Post#250776
I still keep imagine playing basic there is 2018. Cotterell is worse than Davis Gym was. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
03-04-18 04:01 PM - Post#250792
Great half. Tremendous hustle on defense. Gotta keep it up for 20 more min. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
03-04-18 05:04 PM - Post#250812
It looked like Colgate had a decent crowd.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
03-04-18 05:24 PM - Post#250817
It was a great crowd for a Central Susquehanna Conference league game at Milton High School. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
03-04-18 10:44 PM - Post#250848
Interesting that the Colgate students stormed the court - for a 7-point win over the 7 seed. The published Cotterell attendance btw was 1279.
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
03-04-18 10:49 PM - Post#250852
Bucknell’s allotment of tickets for Wednesday is sold out. Presumably 1/3 of Sojka is currently reserved for Colgate to sell. As 1/3 of Sojka is nearly equal to Cotterell Court, which Colgate doesn’t ever fill, I hope they return a good portion of their share quickly. Will do the league no good to have a 1/3 empty arena... Bucknell’s website says Colgate won’t return them until Wednesday. Especially considering an iffy weather forecast for Wednesday, I hope Bucknell can get them sold in time. Also sure hope the students use their whole allotment. Would be great to have both end zones packed. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
03-04-18 11:10 PM - Post#250853
In the past, Bucknell has always said the other team's allotment would be returned Wednesday morning - which is the PL deadline. However often the other team has returned them earlier. Once it's clear that many won't be sold, the only reason for a school not to return most of them is to practice a$$hole behavior. I do expect Colgate to run a few fan buses down to Sojka however, so the BU students had better do a good job supporting the team.
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
03-04-18 11:28 PM - Post#250854
I’m sure the football team and their entertaining antics will be busing down. That said, I’d be surprised if Gate used more than 400 tickets. Especially if it is going to be a snowy drive... |
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BisonFan4 Junior Posts 211 |
03-05-18 02:00 AM - Post#250861
Anyone needing tickets can go purchase them thru Colgate's site rather than waiting till they are returned to Bucknell. Much easier & less stressful than waiting to see if any will be available lol |
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DoCtoR62 Masters Student Posts 463 |
03-05-18 09:36 AM - Post#250874
Anyone needing tickets can go purchase them thru Colgate's site rather than waiting till they are returned to Bucknell. Much easier & less stressful than waiting to see if any will be available lol As of 8:30 Monday morning, good luck finding any thing on Colgate's website regarding tickets. |
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The Psycho of Sojka Sophomore Posts 107 |
03-05-18 01:52 PM - Post#250909
There is one ticket on stub hub for $74 haha. |
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
03-05-18 03:13 PM - Post#250921
http://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2018/3/5/mens-ba s... Colgate ticket info is in there. Have to call their box office... I sure hope I’m able to use my tickets. The weather forecast for getting from the NYC area to Lewisburg on Wednesday is getting worse. At least the weather in Lewisburg seems better to make it easy for locals to get there. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
03-05-18 04:29 PM - Post#250947
Interesting that the Colgate students stormed the court - for a 7-point win over the 7 seed. https://twitter.com/sethonhoops/status/97 071868214... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
03-05-18 04:54 PM - Post#250957
Interesting that the Colgate students stormed the court - for a 7-point win over the 7 seed. https://twitter.com/sethonhoops/status/97 071868214... BRW, with the slap-down. No charging the court without winning your conference championship is definitely a rule!!!
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Raymond Bucknell Sophomore Posts 179 |
03-05-18 05:47 PM - Post#250968
To be fair, some of the Sojka faithful stormed the court after the buzzer-beater against Colgate. |
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atlantabison PhD Student Posts 1835 |
03-05-18 05:47 PM - Post#250969
Interesting that the Colgate students stormed the court - for a 7-point win over the 7 seed. https://twitter.com/sethonhoops/status/97 071868214... BRW, with the slap-down. No charging the court without winning your conference championship is definitely a rule!!! Then we violated it last time we played Colgate. Extreme circumstances, but there were a lot of students on the court after that one.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 |
03-05-18 07:08 PM - Post#250989
Interesting that the Colgate students stormed the court - for a 7-point win over the 7 seed. https://twitter.com/sethonhoops/status/97 071868214... BRW, with the slap-down. No charging the court without winning your conference championship is definitely a rule!!! Then we violated it last time we played Colgate. Extreme circumstances, but there were a lot of students on the court after that one. There is a definite corollary to the general rule, i.e. that if you win via one of the most miraculous finishes in NCAA history that court-storming is OK, even recommended. With 18 seconds left in that game, the Bison had perhaps a 1 in 1000 chance to win it. Doing it with a three at the buzzer justifies a court-storming imo. But clearly a 2 seed beating a 6 seed, as expected and by 7 points, doesn't justify the fans even taking a step towards the court - although in their defense, most of them had never even seen Cotterell Court before and had to ask for directions.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
03-05-18 09:56 PM - Post#251012
Yeh, what 137 said is my respoonse!
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BUFan PhD Student Posts 1936 |
03-06-18 07:48 AM - Post#251028
I infer from this that Colgate is at least busing its football team to Lewisburg. https://twitter.com/coachdanhunt/status/9 706528807... |
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crd012 Junior Posts 262 |
03-06-18 08:49 AM - Post#251029
Not that this matters but Clark Kellogg called us a team to watch if we beat Colgate on Boomer and Gio. He says we have the size and perimeter play to compete in the tournament. I think we all knew that, but it’s nice to hear it. |
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scorekeeper Freshman Posts 59 |
03-06-18 10:25 AM - Post#251040
Has anyone been able to get tickets from Colgate? Seems they aren't answering any calls from the 570? |
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BisonFan4 Junior Posts 211 |
03-06-18 10:40 AM - Post#251043
Try calling restricted 😜 |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 |
03-06-18 11:37 AM - Post#251049
Has anyone been able to get tickets from Colgate? Seems they aren't answering any calls from the 570? What happens? Is it just ringing with no pickup? |
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scorekeeper Freshman Posts 59 |
03-06-18 12:09 PM - Post#251058
Yesterday just ringing. Today there is an answering machine. No return yet. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 |
03-06-18 01:05 PM - Post#251064
CU's website says "No Upcoming Events" and lists 315-228-4062 as the number to call for help. I called it, and it went into the voicemail for David Riggs who identifies himself as the Director of Ticket Sales for Colgate Athletics. https://tickets.vendini.com/ticket-software.html?t...
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scorekeeper Freshman Posts 59 |
03-06-18 02:03 PM - Post#251086
Don't worry I got my tix earlier. Just tried for a friend who was having issues. I too got David Riggs voicemail. Told my friend to just show up Early. See you all there! |
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