New 3 star commit in Watson Looks like a good get for the big green. .

• GoBigGreenBasketball Said:

And by the way, the above appears to be an understatement. Watson had several scholarship offers, including Power 5 teams going to the NCAA. If anything, he looks to have a better resume than Boudreaux did coming out of high school.

I fully acknowledge that he still has to produce. Whether he can remains to be seen...

I think there are more than a few people posting in various places regarding the Dartmouth situation who are just posers. They claim inside knowledge, but are more likely full of sh1t.

Entirely possible.

I'm actually a little worried that it cuts the other way... could be people with ALL the information, but who are directly involved, airing out their side of the story on the two boards.

. The school, AD, and perhaps the coaching staff don't seem to really care too much about having a winning team. That alone probably explains away half of the issues.

Actually one last point before I sign off. @ Go Green; Probably best not to be passive aggressive and post on other boards about me, rather than pointing it out here. While I don't post there, I certainly will address it here.

Trying to discredit my experience and my take on things really makes brings into question your motivations. Why is it so hard to accept that the program sucks? We have bottomed out over the last x years, dont know how much worse it gets.

I certainly have identified my background and have given you proof. I was right about discontent on the team as early as the beginning of last season.

You hitch your wagon to the program as is, my bet will be that our success (whenever that may be) will be found in a different direction. Good luck with that.

I'm not sure what you're asking? Do you want me to lay out all my credentials and contact with the team so you can verify if my assessment is valid?

I cant imagine what a current graduating senior would have grudge wise against a team whom he has rooted for the past 4 years despite being pretty awful.

I have been embedded with the coaches, players, and overall Dartmouth population since I matriculated. Joining purely because I loved basketball and was too unathletic to actually play it. I joined this board to voice insights, talk about our success (awkward), and provide on the ground reporting. Evidently I am making things up and holding a grudge.

I'll put it simply. I've lived through four years of uninspired coaching, poor institutional support, and a fanbase that is dwindling because we don't win. I'll leave out an uninspiring coaching search as I guess there is still time to find inspiration (although it is dwindling). The fact that you see basketball being a priority at Dartmouth is shocking, and perhaps indicative of an issue permeating the few remaining fans. Dartmouth Basketball is simply an afterthought.

But, as happy as I am to finally reset the password on my original account I am also happy to realize that perhaps as I graduate it is best to step away. The discourse here is more echo chamber than dialogue.

Looking forward to next season!

~SDS

Evidently I can't stay away.

Please explain how my statement was unfair? I've seen our practices, games, and team interactions firsthand. Additionally, I'll point towards a high player attrition rate, poor record, loss of recruits, and lack of institutional support (see why can football be succesfull?) as to why you are deluded.

Second- in no place did I mention the player who must not be named? He's symptomatic of the problem, but not something I even referenced. If we are out here questioning sources, how do you know that the situation you outlined (re: captaincy) is even accurate? Ill await your answer.

My advice? Give up on that whole schtick- the hating on a 19 year old is getting kinda old. Probably best to focus on our program rather than a player who left. Something I've outlined ad nauseam for awhile.

Anyway- the next season or two will be very telling. I'll certainly tune in hoping to be surprised and would love nothing more than to be wrong.

Trying to find your point here? I don't really care. They certainly don't know its me. I am sufficiently vague in that I could be any number of people.

Most of the time i am inclined to stay silent and let things play out, but I can't sit still with the people who believe everything's fantastic and time will yield us wins. Not like this.

How do your friends and family feel about you arguing with a 22 year old, on a public forum, about a bad basketball team you're barely associated with?

They certainly don't know its me. I am sufficiently vague in that I could be any number of people.

Maybe come graduation, ill appear and provide all my details.

Longtime follower here, just getting into the posting game. As someone who spends a lot of time with the team (Grad student), this start to the season is a huge disappointment.

List all the resources Dartmouth has put towards basketball. Tell me about how we got rid of the last coach, or the coaching search for the new one? How about facility upgrades, or things to draw new recruits?

• SomeDartmouthStudent Said:

Well, you mentioned you've been involved the last 4 years. If that is indeed the case, and you are graduating this year, then there are very few people that you could be...This is kind of fun! I'll allow you to reveal yourself in your own time.

I think we have trouble attracting players because (a) we're a rural school, (b) the campus is perceived as conservative, and (c) we haven't won an Ivy title since 1960. How do you overcome those three factors until you actually win with a group you've got? Somewhere along the line, the team has to overachieve; when was the last time Dartmouth did that? The Sea Lonergan years?

• SomeDartmouthStudent Said:

We will await your report breathlessly.

Also, in Coach McLaughlin's first year, the team was ranked #280 at KenPom with 4 games to go (ending at #305). Last year, they were at #278 with 4 games to go (finishing at #299). This year, they are at #192. That's a pretty big jump, especially given the start of last season.

On the other hand, Jackson has only played 12 minutes in the past 6 games and Sistare was out for the two most recent games.

Also, in Coach McLaughlin's first year, the team was ranked #280 at KenPom with 4 games to go (ending at #305). Last year, they were at #278 with 4 games to go (finishing at #299). This year, they are at #192. That's a pretty big jump, especially given the start of last season.