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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
04-11-18 11:48 AM - Post#255080
The team is going to Italy in May for 2 weeks and will play a few games against Italian opponents TBD. It will be a great time for the team to take a look at rotation possibilities for next year. Eddie, Jelani, Jarrod along with Tyler and even Mark Jackson should get somet time. Also an opportunity to see what we have at the point to replace Darnell. I don’t have details on the opponents or the locations (I believe Rome is part of the itinerary). |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1173 |
04-11-18 11:54 AM - Post#255081
I'm going to assume the team isn't employing the Jerome Allen Travel Agency for this one. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21214 |
04-11-18 11:56 AM - Post#255082
Freely admitting this was also my reaction when I saw the combination of Italy + TBD |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2140 |
04-11-18 12:19 PM - Post#255084
That was my first thought as well. |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
04-11-18 12:30 PM - Post#255087
Didn't Jerome's team play games against Italian opponents TBD? The name sounds familiar. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3779 |
04-11-18 12:45 PM - Post#255089
FWIW, TBD is an Italy-based mobile apps developer. Maybe they field a company basketball team? |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
04-11-18 02:26 PM - Post#255099
Actually it's Travel Blogger Destination (TBD) Italy. https://www.traveldudes.org/travelblog/review-tbd -... Seems apt. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21214 |
04-11-18 02:59 PM - Post#255103
FWIW, TBD is an Italy-based mobile apps developer. Maybe they field a company basketball team? Well, they were certainly very mobile. In the sense of, hard to track down. Which is impressive considering that was Jerome's primary assignment, and he's quite the defender. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2140 |
04-11-18 03:43 PM - Post#255104
FWIW, TBD is an Italy-based mobile apps developer. Maybe they field a company basketball team? Well, they were certainly very mobile. In the sense of, hard to track down. Which is impressive considering that was Jerome's primary assignment, and he's quite the defender. Seems he made a fundamental defensive error and got caught watching the ball, which led to him losing his defensive assignment, who made a perfect back cut for the easy layup. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
04-13-18 12:41 PM - Post#255230
Last time in Italy the Penn group played pick-up level games with US soldiers stationed over there. Hope this time they have firm matchups with real teams before they get on the plane. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32846 |
04-13-18 01:43 PM - Post#255237
big difference--they have an AD who isn't stealing money and mailing it in. Or a coach who has no clue. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4484 
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04-13-18 02:02 PM - Post#255243
Come on y'all. Are we supposed to believe that these trips are more than a just boondoggle and recruiting ploy? Are we supposed to believe that we would have had a more successful season had Jerome been able to arrange a truly challenging schedule? That being I said, we can probably accomplish both... a boondoggle and a challenging schedule, but still... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32846 |
04-13-18 02:16 PM - Post#255247
I don't understand your point? Assuming that the trips are recruit oriented, and have a benefit in team togetherness if not actual play (it is extra scrimmaging), should we accept negligent planning that got the team to Europe with no arrangements? |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4484
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04-13-18 02:17 PM - Post#255248
Read my last sentence... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32846 |
04-13-18 02:22 PM - Post#255250
Yes, but you are saying the taking of such a trip is a boondoggle, not that the negligent arranging of that trip is a boondoggle. It's the latter that was disgraceful and made us look really bad. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4484
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04-13-18 02:34 PM - Post#255251
P38... "Made us look bad"? To whom? Seven people on this board? Do you know someone at that team that came out of that experience feeling duped by the scheduling (or lack of)? Do you think that the team would have played any better that year had they played actual talent in Italy? Again, I re-iterate that Penn Men's Basketball should be able to do both (enjoy Italy and schedule quality competition), but in the general scheme of things does it really matter that you were embarrassed? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32846 |
04-13-18 02:37 PM - Post#255253
Well, I've said that to you many times about our political discussions (does it really matter to anyone what we say). But simply as a business, our Athletic Dept under Bilsky was an embarrassment in his later years--this situation being just one of many screw-ups. I still wonder why he disappeared as Big 5 Director. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
04-28-18 01:18 PM - Post#256070
Team is going to Italy on the 14th until the 23rd and playing 3 games. Vs Stella Azzurra Roma vs Bernaraeggio99 vs Novara Borgomanero |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-02-18 09:49 AM - Post#256284
A little more about the teams, courtesy of the Internet: Stella Azzurra Roma is located in northern Rome and plays in Serie B Basket, which is the semi-pro third tier of Italian basketball. The club dates back to 1938 and has several youth divisions including a U20. Their website is: http://www.stellazzurra.it/ and they have a YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/StellaAzzurraRom a/vid... Bernaraeggio99 is located northeast of Milan, and also plays in Serie B Basket. Their website is: http://www.bernareggio99.it and they also have a YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXsPxVpfGwFn 9Dln7... Novara Borgomanero is located in Northern Italy between Turin and Milan. I couldn't find much on them. I believe they play in what's called Serie C Regionale, which is the 5th tier of Italian basketball. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
05-04-18 12:32 AM - Post#256382
Any word on if some of the injured frosh plan to play on this trip? That would make it fairly interesting. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
05-04-18 07:48 AM - Post#256384
Yep. Jelani, Eddie, jarrod, will all play. Not sure on mark Jackson and Tyler, who both had foot issues late in the season. Should be close to full strength in Italy though. Good opportunity to check out some rotation options for next year. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
05-07-18 10:11 AM - Post#256478
Itinerary for the Italy trip: http://www.pennathletics.com/news/2018/4/30/mens-b ... 16 players are traveling and healthy to play. One of the opponents has changed as well. |
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Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
05-07-18 10:36 AM - Post#256479
i was gonna say it's a kind of dumb NCAA rule that the seniors can't get a free trip to Italy. On the other hand, having them play is pointless and they may not even want to go when they have to get on with their lives and graduation. So I have no point. Thanks for witnessing my inner monologue. Oh look, a squirrel. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3779 |
05-07-18 10:44 AM - Post#256480
It doesn't make sense to let guys play who have exhausted their eligibility. That said, if I were a graduating senior, even if I weren't going to be allowed to play, there's no way I'd turn down a free trip to Italy if they would let me come along. |
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Penn90 Masters Student Posts 574 
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05-07-18 10:45 AM - Post#256481
This is the best post in the history of this message board.
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
05-07-18 11:22 AM - Post#256483
The team is leaving the day of graduation. Would be hard for them to join....usually you get 1 of these per 4 years. I don't recall the outgoing seniors going during their tenure. So kind of a bummer for them. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-08-18 05:52 PM - Post#256544
US Tiber Basket Roma is another Serie B team based in Rome. The website is: http://www.ustiberbasket.it Here is a nice surprise: They have announced the Penn game on their website! To see it, go to: http://www.ustiberbasket.it/2012-13/serie-b-quaker ... This is the English translation of their announcement: Prestigious exhibition match for our top blue-and-orange team, which on Thursday the 17th at 7:30 pm will host the Univ. of Pennsylvania Quakers on their Italian tour. Part of the Ivy League (the 8 best private American universities), this college team has won the top spot with a 24-8 record, which has allowed them to play Kansas. They foresee not only a lot of basketball, but also visiting many sights, churches, and museums in Rome before heading North, for other exhibition matches and other artistic treasures of ours to visit. This is the complete program: (then a link back to PennAthletics.com) What's really great in this announcement is that our Penn team will be playing the top team in the club, rather than a youth team. (The basketball clubs over there tend to have several levels of team, including various youth teams.) They also have a YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmz7roEcq1Ad HTZsN... Hopefully our Penn team will avail itself of the YouTube channels and other information about the Italian teams so they can have high-level matches over there, planned strategy against a cohesive team, etc., which did not happen on the last Italian trip. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-08-18 06:47 PM - Post#256547
The Bernareggio team has also posted an announcement of their match with Penn! http://www.bernareggio99.it/grande-evento-al-palar ... The text reads: On Saturday, March 19th at 7:30 pm, our First Team will play an exhibition match with a U.S. college team that a short while ago played in the NCAA tournament. A great sports event for our Reds fans. A great way to close out the Serie B season and let our youth players enjoy an evening of American Basketball. We await numerous, loud, and warmed-up fans in the stands attending the match, wearing Reds colors and schwag. So, another match with an Italian club’s top players! |
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mbaprof Senior Posts 345 |
05-08-18 08:19 PM - Post#256549
I don't think graduating players are eligible under NCAA regs |
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QHoops Senior Posts 369 |
05-09-18 09:24 AM - Post#256561
Anyone know if any there will be streamed video for any of these games? Among other things, it would be nice to get a look at Jelani Williams playing. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-09-18 11:11 AM - Post#256578
My guess is that any availability of live streamed video would be announced closer to game time over the team's social media, such as facebook, twitter, and instagram. Even if there is no live stream (or we miss it), match tape likely will be posted on YouTube within hours so we all can see how well Penn did. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-13-18 11:59 PM - Post#256761
The US Tiber Basket club has posted on their website additional press-release type material about Penn's tour, including the 16-man Penn roster. The material looks to have been prepared by the tour operator and my guess is that PennAthletics will be posting something similar in English shortly. If not I'll post a translation of the key parts. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-15-18 10:44 AM - Post#256800
News and social media links from PA: https://pennathletics.com/news/2018/5/15/genera l-q... In bocca al lupo!! |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
05-15-18 11:17 AM - Post#256802
Mark Jackson is really tall! I am guessing the team is a spectacle in Rome for most tourists/locals but he has got to be seen as a natural monument! |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
05-15-18 11:23 AM - Post#256804
Also of note Betley won't be playing in Italy, shut down for "recuperation" whatever that means. |
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Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
05-15-18 11:46 AM - Post#256805
do i only count 15 basketball players in that picture? doesn't matter, maybe the person's taking the picture, maybe he didn't want to be in it, but i'm just curious if i can count. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3588 |
05-15-18 11:48 AM - Post#256806
there are 16 players, 3 assistant coaches and 2 managers in the picture |
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Charlie Fog Masters Student Posts 587 |
05-15-18 11:59 AM - Post#256808
Jackson is such a ham |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21214 |
05-15-18 12:05 PM - Post#256809
Ira looks like he's been sampling the finest pasta Italy has to offer. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-15-18 01:16 PM - Post#256816
Here is the promised English translation of the other key parts of the US Tiber Basket Roma press releases posted on their website. Not-to-be-missed event for all blue-and-orange fans and all basketball fans starting with the traditional shootaround in the morning from 10:00 to 11:30 and starting again with warm-ups before the 18:30 exhibition match. Press release In the 2017-18 season, Penn won top spot in the Ivy League with a 24-8 record, but then was defeated in the first round of the NCAA tournament by Kansas, a team which the previous summer had come to Italy for the same type of tour by Dream Team Sports Tours. Fresh from its Ivy League victory and return to the NCAA Tournament after an absence of 11 years, the Quakers will be in Italy May 14-22 and will play 3 exhibition matches against Italian teams. For Penn, this is the second trip to Italy in 5 years and where the first time they visited Venice, Florence, and Rome, this time their journey will have stops at Rome, Milan, and Lake Como. While staying at Como, the team also will visit Lugano, Switzerland. This is the schedule of games organized by Dream Team Sports Tours in collaboration with the hosting teams: 1. US Tiber Roma v. Penn, Thursday, May 17 at 18:30, at PalaDonati di Roma (street address) 2. Pallacanestro Bernareggio 99 v. Penn, Saturday, May 19 at 19:30, at PalaReds di Bernareggio (street address) 3. College Basketball Novara Borgomanero v. Penn, Sunday, May 20 at 18:30 at PalaCadorna di Borgomanero (street address) “This trip provides an incredible opportunity for our student-athletes to visit places they would not have been able to go to were it not for basketball,†the words of Coach Donahue. “While the games we will play in Italy will be competitive and will help us to develop our game, the cultural experience and team-building are the true reasons for which we are very excited for a trip of this type.†Coach Donahue has on his staff Ira Bowman, former NBA player with the Philadelphia 76ers, who also played briefly for Basket Napoli in 2001 in Legadue [at the time, Italy’s second level of basketball]. All match statistics will be carried on www.statbasket.it. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21214 |
05-15-18 01:33 PM - Post#256820
For Penn, this is the second trip to Italy in 5 years. ..and the first time they will manage to play organized basketball there. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-17-18 10:49 AM - Post#256919
A Penn practice tape from US Tiber Basket Roma's YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmz7roEcq1Ad HTZsN... - It's been up for 2 days, but with only 36 views , the huge, worldwide Penn fanbase must not have been aware of it. PA has a new QMH update. It states: "We will be posting a recap of Thursday night's game later today, tipoff is slated for 7:30 p.m. which is 1:30 in the afternoon Philadelphia time" GOOD LUCK PENN!! |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-17-18 05:54 PM - Post#256972
This wrap-up from PA, with a photo of the teams. Men's Basketball Opens Italian Tour With Stunning 82-80 Loss May 17, 2018 ROME, Italy – The University of Pennsylvania men's basketball team was up by 14 on U.S. Tiber Roma more than midway through the fourth quarter in its first game during its Italian tour, but were stunned by a 21-2 Tiber run that catapulted the Italian club team to an 82-80 win. Penn led 75-61 with less than five minutes remaining in regulation, but were unable to stop Tiber's offensive onslaught down the stretch and could not score on offense itself. The combination allowed the Italian hosts to take an 82-77 lead before Antonio Woods capped off a team-high 19-point night with a three-pointer at the buzzer that set the final score. Tiber's leading scorer was Andrea Valentini, who scored 32 points in the game, while Filippo Bertoldo had 21 and Marco Reali added 10. Notes *Penn shot out to an 11-0 lead to start the game and it was 14-1 shortly after that, but Tiber was able to come back and took a 30-29 lead by the midway point of the second quarter. *Penn shot 10-of-38 on three-pointers, thanks mostly to a late surge when Penn turned a 49-44 deficit into a 75-61 lead. Woods was 4-of-5 beyond the arc on the night, while the rest of the team was 6-of 33. *Penn had 17 assists but committed 20 turnovers. *Penn was 18-of-25 at the foul line on Thursday. *All 14 Penn players who dressed on Thursday played in the game. *Wood was the only Penn player to score in double figures. Four other players finished with nine points—Jake Silpe, Jakub Mijakowski, Jarrod Simmons and Jelani Williams—while Devon Goodman and AJ Brodeur had eight each. *Brodeur also had five assists, while Silpe and Williams finished with four each. *Jackson Donahue led Penn with five rebounds, and then amazingly eight different players had four boards. Overall, Tiber outrebounded the Quakers 47-45. *Williams was playing for Penn for the first time since arriving on campus; he missed the regular season to injury. He ended up playing nearly 24 minutes. *The only two not dressing on this trip are sophomore Ryan Betley and freshman Mark Jackson. Jackson is injured, while Betley was prescribed a period of rest after the regular season and this trip happens to fall in that window. |
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Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
05-17-18 08:11 PM - Post#256977
Two losses in a row. Fire Steve. |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1173 |
05-18-18 10:28 AM - Post#256990
I think we're burying the lede here. HOLY CRAP JELANI WILLIAMS PLAYED A GAME OF BASKETBALL! |
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QHoops Senior Posts 369 |
05-18-18 10:43 AM - Post#256991
Is there any video other than the few minutes of practice? |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-18-18 12:01 PM - Post#256993
I was looking around and found these: https://twitter.com/PennBasketball - a short clip. https://twitter.com/BallNcaa - about 2 minutes This is the translation of the text: [Penn’s Italian tour began badly: The Ivy League champions were beaten by Tiber Roma 82-80, which made a great push near the end, from the 14th to the 5th minute from the end. These highlights from the last quarter.] This BallNcaa Twitter account I found via the host team's Twitter. Maybe they will follow the rest of the Penn tour? The clip was also shared to the host team's https://twitter.com/Tiber1967 Maybe they will post something more later on? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
05-18-18 01:39 PM - Post#257004
I think we're burying the lede here. HOLY CRAP JELANI WILLIAMS PLAYED A GAME OF BASKETBALL! No question this was the most important piece of news to come from the game. 24 minutes isn't too shabby. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1900 |
05-18-18 08:02 PM - Post#257025
Had to shake my head at Jackson Donahue's missed three and TO. Woods looked like he's ready to play.  |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
05-19-18 10:36 AM - Post#257035
I think we're burying the lede here. HOLY CRAP JELANI WILLIAMS PLAYED A GAME OF BASKETBALL! No question this was the most important piece of news to come from the game. 24 minutes isn't too shabby. How did he look? And yes, that was the most important takeaway. By far. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-19-18 02:38 PM - Post#257040
Was looking for video or info on today's match but found nothing. I did find some photos and a score sheet from the Rome match on the tour organizer's Facebook. https://m.facebook.com/dreamteamsportstours/ |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
05-19-18 04:24 PM - Post#257044
Just saw a tweet that we won big - 90 something to 50 something. Devon led with 24. Believe this was a B league team. We lost the other day to a C league team |
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20Penn14 Senior Posts 364 |
05-19-18 04:25 PM - Post#257045
@PennBasketball Never took our foot off the gas tonight, defeating Bernareggio 99 by a 93-56 score. Devon had 24 points. Recap later tonight! 🔴🔵🀠#WhÄnau |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-19-18 04:27 PM - Post#257046
Yes, 93-56 Penn, per PA's Twitter. |
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Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
05-19-18 08:46 PM - Post#257049
Can someone please translate the abbreviations on the right hand side of the box score (PP, PR, SF, FF and FS)? AS is assists. What are the others? |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-19-18 09:53 PM - Post#257050
PP = turnovers PR = steals SF = blocked shots FF = fouls FS = fouled upon PA has posted the recap for the 2nd match. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-20-18 09:46 AM - Post#257053
Hi again. I'm going to write this post a bit at a time and will write "End of post" when done. This to prevent losing the entire post like I did yesterday due to typographical incompetence. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I couldn't find much on today's opponent, but they are definitely in a lower level of basketball than the others we played, possibly a youth team with a couple of older players. The dream team Facebook page has photos from the second match, and a link to analysis of the first match, which is on the Roma team's web page. I will translate some of it here. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-20-18 11:12 AM - Post#257054
Oops, lost the translation and got thrown off the board. Let's try again (I'm on my new phone). (Starting from I padroni, as the rest is repeated info.) The host team had important absences (Ricciardi, Santucci and Ridolfi), but had present Bistarelli, Meschini, who grew up in (local town) and currently plays in Grottaferrata, and young Balboni also from [team], currently at Frascati, but who threw his first passes as a player with Tiber's 3-on-3 youth team. Presentation of the American team was by club president Cilli, accompanied by the American national anthem and an exchange of gifts between players and the team managers. The game was enjoyable and full of good plays, always close and with Tiber always fending off the Quakers' attempts to grow their score, and concluding victorious thanks to an excellent 4th Quarter.  Top players Valentini 32 points and 9 rebounds, Bertoldo 21 points and 4 triples, and an optimal Reali, above all in the 4th Quarter, where his speed permitted recovery from a 14 point deficit and to win with 2 points to spare. For the Quakers, Woods, Mijakoski e Simmons (excellent prospect) played very well. Referees were [names] in a match that was friendly but very physical. The other linked article is the same. |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-20-18 02:35 PM - Post#257057
The 1st and 2nd teams we played are both in Serie B which is semi-pro and at the third level of Italian basketball. The team we originally were going to play (Stella Azzurra) is also Serie B. They got into the Serie B playoffs and played several games this week. That probably was why they did not play us. Penn luckily had a backup plan this time, and was able to get another local team (Rome has 5 Serie B teams) to step in to play us before all the players left for the summer. The Tiber Rome team we played was, we know, missing a couple of regular players but still gave Penn a good challenge. Both Tiber and the Bernareggio99 team had losing records this season in Serie B so they were available for exhibition games. We don't know yet how many of the Bernareggio99 players were the regulars, and what effect that number may have had on the lopsided score. Today's opponent is in a lower level of Italian basketball, but I'm not sure which level. The lower levels of Italian basketball are amateur. End of post. |
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QuakerPTPer Sophomore Posts 184 |
05-20-18 04:50 PM - Post#257059
Can someone explain who/what QMH is in all of these blog posts? https://pennathletics.com/news/2018/5/20/mens-b ask... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32846 |
05-20-18 06:42 PM - Post#257063
"Quaker Meeting House"--- effectively a screen name of the author of the blog |
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QuakerPTPer Sophomore Posts 184 |
05-20-18 07:45 PM - Post#257064
Thanks. I was thinking there was more of a backstory. I guess not! |
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PennHoopsFan Masters Student Posts 633 |
05-20-18 07:57 PM - Post#257065
And QMH has filed his report on Penn's final match in Italy. https://pennathletics.com/news/2018/5/20/mens-b ask... |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8263 
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05-20-18 10:25 PM - Post#257066
"Quaker Meeting House"--- effectively a screen name of the author of the blog QMH is the nom de plume of an athletic dept official and a fixture near the bench at every Quaker basketball game. |
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