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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
09-15-18 02:35 PM - Post#261301
Committed to Penn today |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
09-15-18 03:04 PM - Post#261302
big time pick up for SD and staff! |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3777 |
09-15-18 03:10 PM - Post#261303
High fives all around. This is a great development. I think it's pretty likely that he will be an important contributor to the team. However, I think it's also fairly likely that we won't contribute all that much as a freshman. Does anybody know where he took his official visits? |
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besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
09-15-18 04:13 PM - Post#261304
Extremely impressive to me that Penn managed to earn a commitment here. He drew offers from UConn, Vandy, and Ohio State this summer. Nice article here: https://basketballrecruit ing.rivals.com/news/penn-... |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
09-15-18 04:53 PM - Post#261305
His final schools were Penn, Vanderbilt and Harvard. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3777 |
09-15-18 07:06 PM - Post#261306
That Rivals article makes him sound like the Baal Shem Tov. Let's hope they're right. And, for those of you who are wondering why on earth he would have chosen Penn over Harvard: obviously, Amaker must have decided to pass. It's inconceivable that a player would have chosen Penn if Harvard had been an option. |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
09-15-18 07:52 PM - Post#261307
Congrats to Steve Donahue and his staff on sealing the deal. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-15-18 08:20 PM - Post#261308
That Rivals article makes him sound like the Baal Shem Tov. Oh, am I gonna have fun with this one over the next 5 years. Of course, only 5% of you will get the references but it'll be a hoot.  |
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jmverlin Junior Posts 218 |
09-15-18 09:07 PM - Post#261313
This is, as you all have mentioned, a HUGE pickup for Penn. Spoke to Max and NMH coach John Carroll this evening. Story up for when you wake up, I'll link it below when it's done. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-15-18 09:34 PM - Post#261314
I don't get how he is like the BST. |
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FlaQuaker Junior Posts 223 |
09-15-18 09:34 PM - Post#261315
Thanks, Josh--looking forward to seeing it. |
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UPIA1968 PhD Student Posts 1121 
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09-15-18 09:45 PM - Post#261316
Championship last year. Talent coming in this year. More talent coming in next year. Looks like Penn can compete with the HPY boys. Of course, we only had 50 years of evidence that they can. So a couple of bad coaches didn't change the long run odds anyway. Great get! |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-15-18 11:02 PM - Post#261317
For one, they're making him sound like he's the Besht. 
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6413 |
09-15-18 11:12 PM - Post#261318
Curious where this puts our class compared to the rest of the league — kind of miss having Mr. James around for this sort of thing. |
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jmverlin Junior Posts 218 |
09-16-18 12:27 AM - Post#261319
Here you all go: https://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/... |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
09-16-18 03:31 AM - Post#261320
Just awesome news. Way to go staff. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-16-18 07:58 AM - Post#261321
I didn't know the BST hooped. I'll bet he had a good outside shot, but I can't see him skying for rebounds or blocking out effectively. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-16-18 08:49 AM - Post#261323
He was the original Zen Master. The first Euroballer that could do it all. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6413 |
09-16-18 10:07 AM - Post#261326
Interesting comments from Carroll about how his players translate at the next level. AJ certainly came in as something close to a finished product. Lorca-Loyd seems like a different type of player, so maybe it doesn’t translate as immediately, but then again, maybe it does. Curious to see if he remains a 10/8 Defense/rim runner guy or becomes something even more as a high school senior. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3777 |
09-16-18 10:56 AM - Post#261327
The thing about the BST is that he played with such joy. He also devised that famous play we've all seen on YouTube in which four players made a circle around the fifth and lifted him up on a chair so he could subsequently either dunk (if on offense) or block a shot (when on defense). |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618 
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09-16-18 11:07 AM - Post#261328
Absolutely fantastic news and great get by Coach Donahue and staff. Recruiting was my one concern when he was in conversation for coach, and happy that I couldn’t have been more wrong. Looks big, very athletic, and a good shot blocker so just what we need in that class. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-16-18 11:26 AM - Post#261329
His kavanna and intensity were unparalleled. Every free throw was shot with his eyes closed. The most perfect arc was formed and not a single net string was stirred as each shot gently fell to the floor. MJ and Rick Barry, eat your hearts out. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-16-18 12:11 PM - Post#261331
It's a mitzva to hoop with joy. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8254 
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09-16-18 12:42 PM - Post#261333
Our frontcourt will be amazing with this kid joining Wang, Jarrod, and AJ. Now, if they can add a blue chip PG for that class to go with all those wings.... |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-16-18 12:48 PM - Post#261334
They might already have him if Williams can recover successfully. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8254
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09-16-18 01:23 PM - Post#261336
Yeah but we still need one in the 2019 recruiting class |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
09-17-18 08:39 AM - Post#261360
I think he'll see the court immediately. The other Max will be graduating and we do have others who will play but I think Max LL has the potential to be that true post player we've lacked. Yes - AJ can play the post; however, he and both Mike Wang and Jarrod Simmons have skill sets which can be utilized both inside and outside. And - obviously- AJ can also be deployed in the paint and on the perimeter. It will be interesting to see how both Simmons and Wang develop this year. That will give all of us a better sense of where and how Lorca-Lloyd will fit in once the other Max has graduated. We do of course have Mark Jackson on the team but nobody has seen him play or knows if he's healthy and can be a plus. Maybe we'll learn more about Jackson and his place on the team this year as well. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-17-18 08:43 AM - Post#261362
Let me be the first to call him MLL. The full name is just too much of a mouthful. Vamonos MLL! |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-17-18 09:45 AM - Post#261363
How 'bout Hyphen 2.0? |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
09-17-18 09:51 AM - Post#261365
It's confusing as we have current Max and then MLL and Max Martz for next year. We need a system to sort this all out. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
09-17-18 09:52 AM - Post#261366
M1, MM2, MLL3? |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-17-18 10:12 AM - Post#261367
We have clearly Maxed out. |
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Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
09-17-18 10:58 AM - Post#261370
slow down there q. i had MLL yesterday. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-17-18 11:21 AM - Post#261373
There you go. Looks sort of like a Roman Numeral. Super Bowl MLL! Super Bowl BST! |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-17-18 11:40 AM - Post#261374
We have gone Max Mad well beyond Thunderdome. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2139 |
09-17-18 11:47 AM - Post#261375
M1, MM2, MLL3? So which one gets dubbed "Maximum"? In all seriousness, I hope this commitment turns out to be a great one for the program and for the kid. Go Penn! |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-17-18 04:03 PM - Post#261385
Maybe it should be MLLl. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-17-18 04:15 PM - Post#261386
Do we have any Quaker comp over the past 25 years for MLL? Owens was pretty solid around the rim but MLL's build and greater range offers many additional possibilities. |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1171 |
09-17-18 04:50 PM - Post#261391
Do we have any Quaker comp over the past 25 years for MLL? Owens was pretty solid around the rim but MLL's build and greater range offers many additional possibilities. Looking at some video, Onyekwe comes closest. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1900 |
09-17-18 05:40 PM - Post#261394
I would have said he's more like Archibong in his sophomore or junior year. MLL is taller, stronger, and probably more skilled than Archibong as a Freshman. Archibong continued to grow taller and stronger through his college years though. MLL will still have to work hard to surpass the player that Archibong became. |
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mbaprof Senior Posts 345 |
09-17-18 09:22 PM - Post#261400
How about Max 50/50 or Max CC |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
09-18-18 10:31 AM - Post#261411
I finally got around to watching MLL's video clips. Can't say I see a lot of Geoff Owens or Koko Archibong or Ugonna or any other player whose played for Penn in those videos, but MLL does remind me of guys we've played against, primarily in Big 5 games. Seems like Temple always had a guy who defended the rim and cleaned up a lot of the misses or finished well around the hoop off of passes from dribble penetration and Nova had that guy Ochefu recently who did the same. At any rate, time will tell but I think this player is different than Penn players of past years and will really fit in with our other bigs and the wing and guard pieces Steve has added. |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
09-18-18 11:41 AM - Post#261414
Agree. Time will tell, but the 2019 class is looking real nice. Could be the best class in talent and depth since 2003. |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
09-18-18 11:53 AM - Post#261415
The other Max does remind me of past Penn players, in particular Tim Begley. I think he is going to step right into Ryan Betley's role when Ryan graduates and has potential All Ivy skills. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21204 |
09-18-18 12:14 PM - Post#261417
Yeah, I wasn't thinking so much of style of play per se but rather expected output. And that's when Owens popped into my mind. |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
09-18-18 12:29 PM - Post#261418
Geoff was in my son's class. I remember seeing him on move in day. He was a stick - around 6'9" 180 lbs. He developed from a skinny awkward high schooler into a muscular 7 footer. One of my favorite Quakers because he was an incredibly hard worker and a total team player. If MLL has the same work ethic as Geoff, the sky is the limit. Right now I'd say he looks much smoother than Geoff did coming in and has a much higher upside, but Geoff accomplished a lot. MLL has all that in front of him and there is no certainty of anything looking forward. |
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Ben Franklin Masters Student Posts 652 |
09-20-18 09:55 PM - Post#261486
Geoff played best with his jaw wired shut. I really hope his kids inherit his size and his wife's talent, and they go to Penn. |
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besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
09-21-18 03:09 PM - Post#261521
Hadn't seen this one shared: "The commitment is Penn's fourth of the 2019 recruiting class and an absolute steal as Lorca-Lloyd has received steady high-major recruitment over the years. " https://newenglandrecruit ingreport.com/news/penn-g... |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1900 |
09-21-18 10:01 PM - Post#261543
Hadn't seen this one shared: "The commitment is Penn's fourth of the 2019 recruiting class and an absolute steal as Lorca-Lloyd has received steady high-major recruitment over the years. " https://newenglandrecruit ingreport.com/news/penn-g... The site you linked ranked him as #3 in Massachusetts and #6 in New England. Have we ever had a big man recruit rated this highly? I recall that Onyekwe was highly thought of but not really followed on recruiting sites, possibly due to his short stint in US prep ranks. |
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besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
09-22-18 09:43 AM - Post#261548
mrjames noted that MLL is the highest rated player on NERR ever to go Ivy in this post: http://boards.basketball-u.com/showpost.php?post/2... |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6413 |
09-22-18 06:37 PM - Post#261555
Probably not surprising once you get up to this rating level, but the good news about mrjames list of top 20 guys is that all of them have at least been good Ivy players. We might have expected some more from Zena, but he certainly was impactful. We’ll have a bigger sample size once MLL and the 3 Harvard kids are through, but so far the hit rate is 100% on these guys. If I’m jinxing anyone here, hopefully it’s one of the Harvard guys. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1900 |
09-23-18 03:07 PM - Post#261561
Probably not surprising once you get up to this rating level, but the good news about mrjames list of top 20 guys is that all of them have at least been good Ivy players. We might have expected some more from Zena, but he certainly was impactful. We’ll have a bigger sample size once MLL and the 3 Harvard kids are through, but so far the hit rate is 100% on these guys. If I’m jinxing anyone here, hopefully it’s one of the Harvard guys. Good. Then nothing can go wrong. |
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nychoops Junior Posts 243 |
09-25-18 03:13 PM - Post#261594
I have seen Max play many times and know him quite well. Let me start by stating this is a fine young man who will represent the university, himself and his family very well. On the court he has so much potential but I do believe his current ranking is based slightly more on his upside then his current skill level and productivity. He has all the tools and the work ethic to develop into a star, not just at the Ivy level. He has a high motor, incredible instincts protecting the rim and is solid finisher with a nice touch. Hes skinny, needs help finding his right spots of the offensive side of the floor and knows he needs a bit more toughness. This is a huge get for Penn. If he doesnt develop he should be an all-ivy talent in a year of two...if he does his upside is very exciting. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1900 |
09-25-18 08:05 PM - Post#261616
Thanks, nychoops. I am really excited when I hear about these types of recruits. The ones who are positives for program and school in so many ways. That is what college athletics should be about. Young people testing and hopefully fulfilling their destinies. |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1171 |
09-26-18 09:20 AM - Post#261623
That is what college athletics should be about. Young people testing and hopefully fulfilling their destinies. That, and dropping 28 and 15 in a thirty point beatdown of Princeton. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1900 |
09-26-18 12:56 PM - Post#261632
... and slamming home the winning dunk that brings the Quakers score to 100 and sending the crowds to Abner's. |
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yoyo Senior Posts 365 |
09-26-18 01:01 PM - Post#261633
... and slamming home the winning dunk that brings the Quakers score to 100 and sending the crowds to Abner's. with a 360 at Jadwin, a la Ugonna Onyeke Freshman year. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23396 |
09-26-18 01:06 PM - Post#261634
...and hitting a buzzer shot from the half court line to upset the 5 seed, sending the Quakers to the second round... |
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Old Bear Postdoc Posts 3998 |
09-26-18 02:56 PM - Post#261640
...and is striped by Anderson who feeds Cambridge for Brown's winning bucket in the finals at Yale. |
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SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1154 |
09-27-18 10:12 AM - Post#261655
There may not be an Abner's much longer. I recently read that the property was sold. Stay tuned. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32834 |
09-27-18 10:16 AM - Post#261656
Part of the 1977 Pagano's building. Long in decline. The only part worth saving is Sitar India. |
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