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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 
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10-15-18 10:38 PM - Post#262666
European play started recently. Here is an update on how some Bison alums are doing: ZACH THOMAS: Zach had two OK games to start the Belgian season - netting 10 and 8 points. But then he exploded in Game 3 - a win over Brussels. In that game, he scored 37 points, had 9 boards, 4 steals, 3 assists, 2 blocks, and drew 11 fouls. Hit 6-9 on twos and 5-10 on threes. He now leads the league in scoring. NANA FOULLAND: Played 13 of the 40 minutes in their opening win in the top Israeli league, alternating at center with a big Ukranian. Had 4 points and 7 rebounds in that time. His team also played earlier today, but no stats yet. STEPHEN BROWN: Had 14 points, 4 boards, and 2 assists in 28 minutes as his team's starting PG. Did not shoot well, and his team lost by 14 points. Zach and Nana are playing in the top leagues in Belgium and Israel, while Stephen is in the second division in Turkey. Turkey, however, has very strong basketball - and the second division there is likely as strong as strong as the top divisions in the other two countries.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-15-18 10:45 PM - Post#262668
Zach and Nana are playing in the top leagues in Belgium and Israel, while Stephen is in the second division in Turkey. Turkey, however, has very strong basketball - and the second division there is likely as strong as strong as the top divisions in the other two countries. Here are a couple of rankings from a year ago of the strength of the European leagues: FRASCHILLA: 1 Spain 2 Turkey 3 Russia 4 Italy 5 France 6 Greece 7 Germany 8 Adriatic (formerly Yugoslavia) 9 Israel EUROPEAN SITE: 1 Spain 2 Russia 3 Turkey 4 Germany 5 Greece 6 Italy 7 Adriatic 8 France 9 Israel 10 Lithuania 11 Belgium 12 Poland 13 Czech
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-17-18 10:21 PM - Post#262915
NANA FOULLAND: Played 13 of the 40 minutes in their opening win in the top Israeli league, alternating at center with a big Ukranian. Had 4 points and 7 rebounds in that time. His team also played earlier today, but no stats yet. Nana had 6 points, 7 boards, and 2 steals in 16 minutes in his second game.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 
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10-18-18 02:37 PM - Post#262979
NANA FOULLAND: Played 13 of the 40 minutes in their opening win in the top Israeli league, alternating at center with a big Ukranian. Had 4 points and 7 rebounds in that time. His team also played earlier today, but no stats yet. Nana had 6 points, 7 boards, and 2 steals in 16 minutes in his second game. "6 points, 7 boards, and 2 steals in 16 minutes" is very solid. If this continues, he should earn some more PT.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-19-18 07:59 PM - Post#263078
Zach was the Belgian league's POW for his performance last weekend: https://www.eurobasket.com/Belgium/news/551091/B el...
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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10-19-18 08:28 PM - Post#263080
Zach was the Belgian league's POW for his performance last weekend: https://www.eurobasket.com/Belgium/news/551091/B el... Prediction: Zach is in Spain or Turkey next year.
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pjm_hoops Sophomore Posts 151 |
10-23-18 10:28 AM - Post#263314
I love the bottom of the article...The "formula" to determine player of the week is 1.5*PTS + 3* (REB+AST+ST+BL-TO) - 2*BSAG - 4*PF + 3*PFRV + 4* (2FGPM+3FGPM) + 1.5*FTM - 3* (2FGPA-2FGPM) - 3* (3FGPA-3FGPM) - (FTA-FTM) There are other factors involved, but it certainly removes a lot of the subjectivity. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 
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10-23-18 12:33 PM - Post#263343
I love the bottom of the article...The "formula" to determine player of the week is Patriot League formula: 1*PTS1.5*PTS + 3* (REB+AST+ST+BL-TO) - 2*BSAG - 4*PF + 3*PFRV + 4* (2FGPM+3FGPM) + 1.5*FTM - 3* (2FGPA-2FGPM) - 3* (3FGPA-3FGPM) - (FTA-FTM) There are other factors involved, but it certainly removes a lot of the subjectivity. |
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Scotty-14 Sophomore Posts 156 |
10-23-18 03:28 PM - Post#263362
If ZT keeps playing at this high a level it is likely he will be invited back to Utah for NBA Summer League next year |
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BisonKid Sophomore Posts 154 |
10-26-18 12:26 PM - Post#263555
Any idea what salaries these guys receive for playing in Europe. I'm sure it varies by league, but I'm curious. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-28-18 03:08 PM - Post#263678
Any idea what salaries these guys receive for playing in Europe. I'm sure it varies by league, but I'm curious. Typically a player in a good (but not top) European league is likely to get $60,000 to $100,000. And often free rooming. This is less than players got before 2009. That is largely because most European teams run at a loss and are funded by companies, wealthy industrialists, or sometimes towns. With Europe's economy still not great, money is not as plentiful as it once was in many countries.
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Scotty-14 Sophomore Posts 156 |
10-30-18 01:19 AM - Post#263744
It is likely that all 3 are making close to or slightly above 6 figures along with other amenities such as a car or housing. In all likelihood ZT is making the most, as he is a key player for his team |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-31-18 10:14 PM - Post#263956
It was a mixed weekend for the Bison overseas. - Nana played 21 of the 40 minutes, hitting 5-7 from the field but only 1-5 on FT's for 11 points. He also had 8 rebounds, blocked 2 shots, and drew 6 fouls. His team won by nine points. - Zach had a very poor shooting night - going 1-7 on twos and 1-6 on threes - in a 75-58 win. However he did draw 6 fouls, hitting 6-8 from the line, and got 8 rebounds and 3 steals. He played a game-high 31 minutes. - Stephen only played 13 minutes as his team lost again. He was 2-2 on twos, 0-2 on threes, and had 4 assists and 2 rebounds. - Cam Ayers' Italian team won its first game, 84-80. He was 0-3 on twos but 4-5 on threes, for a total of 12 points. Also 3 assists and 1 rebound in 27 minutes. His team's star is Rotnei Clarke, who played against the Bison when they met Butler in the NCAA's. - In Sweden's top league, Brian Fitzpatrick's team ran its record to 6-3. In those games, he is averaging about 24 mpg, 8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, and 1.3 apg. Hitting about 55% on twos and 35% on threes, but only 50% (8-16) from the line.
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KenZ Postdoc Posts 2777 
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11-19-18 01:17 PM - Post#266450
dunkfest for Nana, but gotta say, just looks wrong seeing him in purple https://mobile.twitter.com/RZASports/status/1063 81... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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11-19-18 01:30 PM - Post#266451
Nana always looked best when he took it strong to the rim. Ken, I completely agree with you regarding the color purple. It looks like an HC uniform!!!
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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11-19-18 02:02 PM - Post#266452
Updating recent games: Zach's last 3 games, starting with most recent: - 12 points and 7 rebounds in 28 minutes. - 21 points and 3 rebounds in 32 minutes. - 24 points and 8 rebounds in 34 minutes. He is averaging 17 ppg, 5.8 rpg. Hitting 42% on threes and 81% on FT's Nana's last two games: - 11 points, 12 rebounds in 32 minutes. - 9 points, 7 rebounds in 21 minutes. He is averaging 8.3 rpg in 20.5 mpg. That's over 16 rebounds per 40 minutes. Unfortunately Stephen Brown got injured in his third game and has not played the last month. No idea what it is.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
12-31-18 02:07 PM - Post#270573
Stephen Brown is apparently playing in Latvia now, averaging 20+ ppg in 4 games so far. https://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Latvia/BC-V... Zach is averaging 15.5 ppg and 6 rpg with his team in Belgium. His team is 3-8 at the holiday break. Nana averaging 8.6 ppg and 7.7 rpg. His team is 3-7. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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12-31-18 02:56 PM - Post#270596
Thanks for updating. A couple of comments: 1. Stephen Brown joined a terrible Latvian team, which was 1-8 when he arrived. They are 2-2 since he took over as their PG, although one of the two wins was against the last place team. He is averaging 20.3 ppg in only 26 mpg. Shooting 69% on twos, 45% on threes, and 78% on FT's. Also 2.3 rpg, 3.8 apg, and 2.5 spg. Not bad. 2. Nana had seen his minutes cut back for a few games, but has really played well the last two. Last game, in 23 minutes he had 16 points (7-7 on FGs), 9 rebounds, and 2 blocks in a rare win. The previous game in 21 minutes he had 12 points and 11 rebounds. Also drew 7 fouls. Nana currently is 6th in the league in rebounding and 10th in blocked shots, despite playing only 20.2 mpg. 3. In his most recent game a couple of days ago, Zach had 17 points and 8 rebounds in a one-point loss. He is currently 3rd in the league in scoring and 10th in rebounds.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
01-14-19 07:33 PM - Post#272601
One player I neglected to mention was Sune Swart. She was just named player of the week in the Spanish B league (I believe) after a 17 pt, 17 reb performance in her latest game. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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02-03-19 01:45 PM - Post#274925
From Bucknell on Twitter: “Former Bison Stephen Brown '18 is on the move again. After averaging better than 17 ppg in Latvia, Stephen has signed with Ural Ekaterinburg in Russia.†|
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
02-03-19 04:08 PM - Post#274938
Another JR Holden? |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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02-03-19 04:29 PM - Post#274942
From Bucknell on Twitter: “Former Bison Stephen Brown '18 is on the move again. After averaging better than 17 ppg in Latvia, Stephen has signed with Ural Ekaterinburg in Russia.†Ekaterinburg is in the middle of BF Nowhere! BTW, it is currently -10°F. Yekaterinburg Sverdlovsk Oblast, Russia https://maps.app.goo.gl/5eFUK
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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02-28-19 04:58 PM - Post#278452
Nana Foulland moving on from Israel to Romania https://twitter.com/ChristosLazarou/statu s/1101043... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-01-19 11:16 AM - Post#278525
Nana Foulland moving on from Israel to Romania https://twitter.com/ChristosLazarou/statu s/1101043... I do not know a whole lot about European basketball. Is this a more competitive and higher paying league?
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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04-27-19 05:57 PM - Post#283958
Nana Foulland with a big playoff game: https://twitter.com/RZASports/status/1122 178301081... Answering Bison89's question from above, the Romanian league is significantly weaker than Israel. Nana's team in Israel was going nowhere and probably had a chance to make some money by dealing him to a contender in another country. As for the pay, my guess would be that Nana's Israeli team sold his contract to his current team and the pay continued to be the same. But that is just a guess.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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05-16-19 07:33 PM - Post#284600
Nana Foulland playoff highlights: https://twitter.com/RZASports/status/1129 067634249...
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Scotty-14 Sophomore Posts 156 |
05-16-19 11:11 PM - Post#284607
He looks so much more agile and explosive...excited to see him in Summer League |
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Bison54 PhD Student Posts 1800 
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05-17-19 08:35 AM - Post#284611
He also looks like he has added some upper body muscle. Great highlights |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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05-17-19 12:43 PM - Post#284616
Looking good! Big stadiums with very few people. Is this the norm? If so, how do the teams make money?
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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05-17-19 01:31 PM - Post#284617
Looking good! Big stadiums with very few people. Is this the norm? If so, how do the teams make money? A lot of them don't make money. It is common for them to be owned by corporations or wealthy industrialists for whom it is more like a hobby - and maybe a tax write-off. However if business is not going so well, there is always a danger of the checks bouncing with a certain number of teams. That is one job of an agent, i.e. to find you a team where you are certain to get paid for the whole year.
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
05-20-19 09:52 AM - Post#284673
That doesn't look like the same Nana! Quick up and down the court, lean, strong, and better hands! |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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08-27-19 12:38 PM - Post#287234
Nana just signed with a Polish first division team, Trefl Sopot. He will be teammates with Cam Ayers. https://www.eurobasket.com/Poland/news/594148/Na na...
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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08-27-19 01:46 PM - Post#287235
Nana just signed with a Polish first division team, Trefl Sopot. He will be teammates with Cam Ayers. https://www.eurobasket.com/Poland/news/594148/Na na... Congrats to Nana. He must be excited to play with Cam in Poland. At the very least, he is getting to see a lot of Europe. What a great opportunity. As my mother would say, "Bardzo dobrze!" (Very good!)
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KenZ Postdoc Posts 2777
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09-08-19 09:47 AM - Post#287506
Nana article https://www.readingeagle.com/sports/article/nana-f ... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
09-08-19 10:07 AM - Post#287508
Looks like Kimbal had the game winning three in his game yesterday. We've seen this movie before. https://twitter.com/CBCValladolid/status/ 117044295... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
09-15-19 07:02 PM - Post#287659
Nana and Cam with 17 and 20 today for their team in Poland. https://twitter.com/CoachMeehan1/status/1 173272230... |
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Scotty-14 Sophomore Posts 156 |
09-15-19 09:22 PM - Post#287660
Feel like this team could be a great opportunity for Nana to excel and possibly make a jump to a better league at the middle or end of this season or next. Or maybe he'll like Poland 
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Scotty-14 Sophomore Posts 156 |
09-25-19 01:17 PM - Post#287948
Stephen Brown to Germany!! |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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09-25-19 06:27 PM - Post#287981
Stephen Brown to Germany!! More importantly to the top league in Germany, which is one of the better ones in Europe.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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09-25-19 06:51 PM - Post#287982
Stephen Brown to Germany!! And, specifically, the Giessen 46ers: https://twitter.com/sportandoit/status/11 769362519... |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-19-20 01:52 PM - Post#304884
Article on Nana Foulland’s sudden return home when his season was cancelled https://www.readingeagle.com/sports/basketball/ber ... |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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03-19-20 02:36 PM - Post#304888
Article on Nana Foulland’s sudden return home when his season was cancelled https://www.readingeagle.com/sports/basketball/ber ... I hadn't even thought about all of the Bucknell players that are overseas. I hope that they are all healthy and safe.
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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03-26-20 08:56 PM - Post#305148
Daily Item: Ayers, Foulland reflect on life as pros in Europe https://www.dailyitem.com/sports/ayers-foulland -re... |
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
04-11-20 08:23 AM - Post#306132
Daily Item has a nice article on Stephen Brown's career in Europe. https://www.dailyitem.com/sports/local_sports/f orm... |
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