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PennFan10
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11-17-18 08:30 PM - Post#266145    

KState -10 is the opening line.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
11-18-18 12:04 AM - Post#266200    

Makes sense, exactly what Kenpom’s model shows with K State @22 and us @127.

Should be fun and just hope the guys stay loose and give them a good game.

Whatever the outcome, because we won that first game we will get a shot at another power 5 team win or lose (Missouri or Oregon State) and that team will be more in the 75-85 range so a better chance for an upset win.

Excited to see how the guys finish out the tournament.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
11-18-18 12:38 AM - Post#266202    

Just looking up their players on KP, this is a very experienced team (too bad), so will make it even tougher. They are currently ranked 5th best def, so will really need to keep the shooting and slashing going and got to find a way to get AJ going.
penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 12:44 AM - Post#266204    

I believe they return all of their starters from last year's team; I really believe this will be the toughest squad we face all season.
Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 01:30 AM - Post#266208    

  • Mike Porter Said:
Makes sense, exactly what Kenpom’s model shows with K State @22 and us @127.



Funny, I thought it felt light. But if that's what you say 100 spots are worth, so be it.
palestra38
Professor
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11-18-18 08:24 AM - Post#266212    

We need to get something out of Rothschild, which we did not get against UNI. While he generally kicks butt against lesser teams, we are vulnerable to put-backs against the better ones. The key to staying close is the old Princeton philosophy---collapse and ensure you get the boards. Of course, that philosophy contradicts the current thinking that the 3-point shot is the key to winning. I think, though, I would rather have a 3-point shooting contest with K-State than a slam dunk contest.

But as they say, this is a house money game.
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
11-18-18 09:07 AM - Post#266218    

The o-boards given up around the basket last game don't exactly inspire confidence for this one. Max was hampered with the fouls but I agree, he needs a big game.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
11-18-18 12:05 PM - Post#266229    

I guess that’s what it’s worth on a neutral floor. I would have thought bigger spread also, but makes sense they are going with KP. Let’s see if we can keep it interesting and completely agree we need better rebounding and to continue to nail 3s to keep it anywhere close.
Streamers
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Streamers
11-18-18 12:07 PM - Post#266230    

  • penn nation Said:
I believe they return all of their starters from last year's team; I really believe this will be the toughest squad we face all season.



Miami might be better, but we likely matchup better there.

Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
11-18-18 06:43 PM - Post#266249    

If anyone has any links, either to tv or to the Penn feed, it would be much appreciated. I was never able to get past ads to watch the stream...Maybe it's my Mac/iPhone.
10Q
Professor
Posts 23411
11-18-18 06:57 PM - Post#266250    

Is the game at 8:30?
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32847
11-18-18 07:03 PM - Post#266253    

7:30
Penn7277
PhD Student
Posts 1365
11-18-18 07:31 PM - Post#266254    

The radio feed is on xpn.org.
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
11-18-18 08:30 PM - Post#266266    

Missouri game is still going (they will win) so we'll be starting late. Is there any interest out there? Xpn.org just has music thus far. Which channel? It definitely wasn't on terrestrial radio on Friday.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3059
11-18-18 08:30 PM - Post#266267    

From the live stats, it seems that the OSU-Missouri game just ended. If this is accurate, it would seem that the Penn-KSU game will be at least 30 minutes away.

The Penn Audio link from the basketball schedule page does not list the KSU game as an upcoming event. The WXPN.org link does work, but right now Mountain Stage is playing.

https://portal.stretchinternet.com/pennaudio/#

http://www.xpn.org/xpn-programs/upenn-ba sketball
penn nation
Professor
Posts 21217
11-18-18 08:31 PM - Post#266268    

Yeah, there's a concert on XPN.org.

So I'm gonna head on over to the KSU site.
FlaQuaker
Junior
Posts 223
11-18-18 08:36 PM - Post#266270    

Looks like this KSU radio feed should work:

KSU Radio Network/610 AM
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
11-18-18 08:38 PM - Post#266271    

Sigh...amateur hour again.
penn nation
Professor
Posts 21217
11-18-18 08:42 PM - Post#266272    

KSU guys say 10 minutes to tip off.
FlaQuaker
Junior
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11-18-18 08:42 PM - Post#266273    

The KSU radio crew is being incredibly complimentary of our Quakers, by the way, calling them the 2nd best team in the field and saying they "know how to play".
Penn7277
PhD Student
Posts 1365
11-18-18 08:44 PM - Post#266274    

It's on xpn.org now.
Stuart Suss
PhD Student
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11-18-18 08:49 PM - Post#266275    

Here is a renegade internet link.

1. Wait until it says to close the advertisement.
2. Close the ad by pressing the white play button (not the X).
3. This may have to be repeated several times.
4. Wait for the red bar to appear under the video screen.
5. Click the play button on the red bar, not on the video screen.

As usual, do not download anything and have your pop-up blocker running. You may frequently have to close open tabs.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 08:50 PM - Post#266276    

I have a new computer and prefer to keep it virginal to listen to this game from the Virgin Islands.


10Q
Professor
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11-18-18 08:51 PM - Post#266277    

This might work.

http://www.lightstream.world/p/pennsylvania-vs-1 2-...
penn nation
Professor
Posts 21217
11-18-18 08:54 PM - Post#266278    

They're a bit behind the times in the Virgin Islands.

Sirius was the in thing....in the late 1980s and 1990s.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3059
11-18-18 08:54 PM - Post#266279    

starting five is Brodeur, Rothschild, Woods, Goodman and Silpe for the 2nd straight game.
penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 08:54 PM - Post#266280    

I will not be defiled.
Ben Franklin
Masters Student
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11-18-18 08:55 PM - Post#266281    

You're bad, Stu.

Thank you.
penn nation
Professor
Posts 21217
11-18-18 08:56 PM - Post#266282    

Now, Rock N Roll Part II?

This is Chicago Stadium circa 1989, folks.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3059
11-18-18 08:57 PM - Post#266284    

Looking at KSU's stats, they are shooting 19% from three (#348) and 56% from FT line (#337)
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:00 PM - Post#266286    

Turnover, two blocks of A.J., turnover to start in first 3 possessions.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:02 PM - Post#266287    

A.J. getting dominated by Mawien early.

And now he stuffs Max.

91Quake
PhD Student
Posts 1126
11-18-18 09:03 PM - Post#266288    

If we keep turning the ball over, this will be done early.
Penn7277
PhD Student
Posts 1365
11-18-18 09:04 PM - Post#266289    

For lightstream do you have to download the media player?

penn nation
Professor
Posts 21217
11-18-18 09:04 PM - Post#266290    

I think there have only been two Penn shots making it to the rim so far, right?


Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:06 PM - Post#266293    

  • penn nation Said:
I think there have only been two Penn shots making it to the rim so far, right?





Yup.

And now Silpe airballs a 3.

penn nation
Professor
Posts 21217
11-18-18 09:06 PM - Post#266294    

Everybody Wang Chung tonight!
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:07 PM - Post#266295    

WANG board and putback.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 09:07 PM - Post#266297    

Vince Curran talking about himself kvetching?


Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:08 PM - Post#266298    

Unforced turnover by Devon. Ugly.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:10 PM - Post#266299    

Excellent back cut by Goodman and pass from A.J. for reverse layup.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 09:10 PM - Post#266300    

The keys to the game so far:

1) KSU is ice cold
2) It is one and done for them every trip
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:10 PM - Post#266301    

Weak stuff from A.J. Very weak.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:12 PM - Post#266302    

Now Mawien overpowers Brodeur for an o-board and score.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:15 PM - Post#266303    

Yet another weak effort by A.J. attempting to dribble drive baseline against Mawien.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:16 PM - Post#266304    

Max draws a change. D keeping us in it.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:16 PM - Post#266305    

Wang not afraid. Another putback.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:17 PM - Post#266306    

Max overmatched by the NBA prospect Wade.

91Quake
PhD Student
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11-18-18 09:17 PM - Post#266307    

Wang may not have the post game at this point but he plays big.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:18 PM - Post#266308    

Good strong drive by Woods.

91Quake
PhD Student
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11-18-18 09:18 PM - Post#266309    

And the kid can shoot!
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:18 PM - Post#266310    

Wang with the bomb from 27!

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:19 PM - Post#266311    

Wang with the bomb from 27!

14-10 Quakers, 9:28 left.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:20 PM - Post#266312    

Silpe for 3.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 09:22 PM - Post#266313    

Penn in the bonus with 7:52 to play, up 6. AJ to shoot 1 and 1 after the time out.

Misses.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:22 PM - Post#266314    

After a Brown 1-2 FT trip, 17-11 Penn, 7:52 left, under 8 TO.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:24 PM - Post#266316    

Brodeur, not Woods at line, and he misses front end.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:25 PM - Post#266317    

Great pass Hamilton to Wang in traffic for layup.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:28 PM - Post#266318    

Great save from Brodeur, but a Wang pass off mark and and Hamilton gets his second personal.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:28 PM - Post#266319    

Dev on the drive and Quakers back up 6 at 21-15.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:29 PM - Post#266320    

A.J. gets his second on Brown layup miss.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:32 PM - Post#266321    

Good drive and dish Max to Washington, but he overcomplicates the close-in shot and it rolls off.

KSU double-dribble at other end and we go to under 4:00 timeout. Penn 21-17, 3:47 left.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:34 PM - Post#266322    

Bad, bad play by Wang leads to TO and layup at other end.

And now A.J. gets his 3rd on moving screen.

rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3059
11-18-18 09:34 PM - Post#266323    

AJ picks up foul #3. Why was he brought back in?
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
11-18-18 09:35 PM - Post#266324    

I love it when refs unnecessarily take over the game. That call on AJ was a damn joke.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:35 PM - Post#266325    

No box out by Wang on Trice, and we’re tied.

Then Wang air balls a 3. Three straight freshman plays.

91Quake
PhD Student
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11-18-18 09:35 PM - Post#266326    

No good reason. Maybe his worst half in his penn career.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:35 PM - Post#266327    

Good job Simmons blockout, and he gets the over-the-back call on Trice.

Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 09:36 PM - Post#266328    

Steve literally went body to body with the ref to show what AJ did. Agreed he shouldn't have been in but that's a brutal call.

More free throw misses.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:36 PM - Post#266329    

Simmons misses front end.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:36 PM - Post#266330    

And then abused by Wade at other end for layup and foul.

Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 09:37 PM - Post#266332    

Jarrod misses the one and one and then gets beat baseline AND fouled. This half needs to end ASAP
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:37 PM - Post#266333    

Makes FT. 24-21 KSU.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:38 PM - Post#266334    

Goodman misses wide open 3 with clock expiring, but KSU knocks rebound out and ball stays with Penn.

1:03 left, Penn timeout.

Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
11-18-18 09:38 PM - Post#266335    

They have got to get points somehow.
penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 09:39 PM - Post#266336    

Been stuck on 21 for a very long time.
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
11-18-18 09:39 PM - Post#266337    

Why does Tony go so quiet on offense for so long? Need to get him involved.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:39 PM - Post#266338    

Silpe travel on head-and-shoulders fake. Turnover.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:40 PM - Post#266339    

Max fouls Wade in post.

91Quake
PhD Student
Posts 1126
11-18-18 09:40 PM - Post#266340    

Terrible run but here's the question. Given they have size and can't shoot it much, why do we not play some zone?
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:40 PM - Post#266341    

Makes both FTs. 11-0 K State run.

penn nation
Professor
Posts 21217
11-18-18 09:40 PM - Post#266342    

Awful final 5 minutes to the half.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:41 PM - Post#266343    

Donahue bricks attempt.

91Quake
PhD Student
Posts 1126
11-18-18 09:42 PM - Post#266344    

That was horrible.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:42 PM - Post#266345    

No box out, Sneed tip-in at buzzer. Awful final minutes.

rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3059
11-18-18 09:42 PM - Post#266346    

KSU finishes half on 13-0 run.

Penn went 2-13 from three.

They'll need to improve, significantly, in the 2nd half.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:43 PM - Post#266347    

Final possession lineup was Wang, Goodman, Jerome, Donahue, Woods and it showed.

Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 09:44 PM - Post#266348    

Jackson Donahue always seems to be on line...never seems to have any idea what the depth is. I understand it can't be easy to sit the bench the whole game but some of the misses these guys put up are brutal. 2-13 from 3 and the free throw bug bites again and they're still only down 7 after giving up a 13-0 run? With AJ having 0? That's crazy.
Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 09:46 PM - Post#266349    

How many one and ones did we miss? 2? I know Jarrod had one but did AJ too? Those kind of lost possessions are just killer.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:46 PM - Post#266350    

It helps that K State can’t shoot for crap.

91Quake
PhD Student
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11-18-18 09:49 PM - Post#266351    

So why don't we zone up?
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 09:55 PM - Post#266353    

Well the one thing they can do is offensive board. A zone would make that even easier for them.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:00 PM - Post#266354    

A.J. misses again, but Max tapout results in Dev 3.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:00 PM - Post#266355    

Dev nails another one after a long KSU 2.

30-27 K State.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:01 PM - Post#266356    

A.J. ugly again against Mawien.


Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:02 PM - Post#266357    

A KSU 3 and they have their largest lead at 35-27.

Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 10:02 PM - Post#266358    

So AJ still can't go left, huh...
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:02 PM - Post#266359    

Brodeur finally draws a foul, hits both FTs.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:03 PM - Post#266360    

Sneed NBA fade-away 2.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:05 PM - Post#266361    

Dev draws contact on layup attempt.

Makes both FTs.

37-31 KSU.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:05 PM - Post#266362    

Antonio gets rebound, tries to go coast-to-coast, can’t finish.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:06 PM - Post#266363    

Under 16:00 timeout.

Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 10:06 PM - Post#266364    

We need many more drives from Woods and Dev.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:07 PM - Post#266365    

Simmons in early here, alongside Max in frontcourt.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:08 PM - Post#266366    

And Simmons can’t box out, fouls on rebound.

91Quake
PhD Student
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11-18-18 10:09 PM - Post#266367    

Simmons needs to not "help" on defense. He continually gets out of defensive position on his man and winds up in a situation where he then fouls.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:10 PM - Post#266368    

Penn doubles Wade on drive, he dishes to Trice for dunk.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:10 PM - Post#266369    

Now Max gets an offensive foul on screen.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 10:11 PM - Post#266370    

Every time they mention Trice I can't help but flash back to the mid 90s.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:11 PM - Post#266371    

Another Penn turnover, and Stokes drives for layup. Biggest lead of game for K State.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:12 PM - Post#266372    

Woods gets steamrolled, and it goes as a Penn turnover.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:12 PM - Post#266373    

Washington steal, but commits another turnover. Third straight wasted possession.

weinhauers_ghost
Postdoc
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11-18-18 10:13 PM - Post#266374    

We're playing five against eight again, aren't we?
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:14 PM - Post#266375    

Brodeur telegraphs crosscourt pass to Wang, and it’s another turnover.

Then can’t keep Trice off o-boards and gets his 4th foul.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:14 PM - Post#266376    

1-2 FTs and it’s 42-31.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:15 PM - Post#266377    

Max blows a layup, Wang gets two tip tries, fouled.

Misses first FT.

Ref stops play with no explanation.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:16 PM - Post#266378    

Makes 2nd FT.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:17 PM - Post#266379    

Wang draws an offensive foul on Trice.

Now double Ts. Referees being geniuses.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:18 PM - Post#266380    

T on Trice and Wang, T on Weber and Donahue.

These guys are incompetent.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:19 PM - Post#266381    

Nice give-and-go Max to Wang.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:20 PM - Post#266382    

Hamilton draws foul on Stokes away from ball attempting a back cut.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:21 PM - Post#266383    

42-34 K State, under 12:00 timeout, 11:17 left.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:23 PM - Post#266384    

Hamilton misses front end, Wang fouls on rebound.

Ancient Quaker
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Ancient Quaker
11-18-18 10:23 PM - Post#266385    

My stream has frozen.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:23 PM - Post#266386    

Wade misses front end. These teams stink right now.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:24 PM - Post#266387    

Wang fouled on screen. Double bonus rest of way.

Wang makes both FTs. 42-36.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 10:25 PM - Post#266388    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
Wang fouled on screen. Double bonus rest of way.
.



With over 50% of the half to play!

Unreal.

Doesn't exactly play to our strength, either.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:25 PM - Post#266389    

Silpe overmatched on Sneed post up. Foul.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:25 PM - Post#266390    

Makes both FTs.

There will be whistles on every possession.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:26 PM - Post#266391    

Woods weak layup attempt blocked by Mawien, Wade overpowers Wang in paint for layup.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:27 PM - Post#266392    

Wang to Dev. 46-38 KSU.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:27 PM - Post#266393    

BRODEUR MADE A BASKET!!!

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:27 PM - Post#266394    

Steve trying to sub offense-defense with Max and A.J.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:29 PM - Post#266395    

Wang can’t hit a turnaround on block with chance to cut it to 4.

Dev foul at other end.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 10:30 PM - Post#266396    

That team knows how to hit most of its FTs
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:30 PM - Post#266397    

Sneed makes 2 FTs.

Donahue inexplicably in.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:30 PM - Post#266398    

Giada fouls Woods on cut. FTs coming after under 8:00 timeout, 48-40 KSU.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:33 PM - Post#266399    

Woods misses first.

Misses second.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:34 PM - Post#266400    

Wade blows spinning layup, Wang called for illegal screen trying to set pick for Dev. His 4th foul.

Lefteroo
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11-18-18 10:34 PM - Post#266401    

Foul shots killing us.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:34 PM - Post#266402    

KSU travel.

This is pretty ugly right now.

penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 10:35 PM - Post#266403    

Same issue against that other team from Kansas we played last season.

We can brick 'em against bad teams and still have a shot at winning, but can't realistically expect the same against quality opposition.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:35 PM - Post#266404    

Dev and A.J. blow a pick-and-roll, turnover.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:36 PM - Post#266405    

Wade easily over Hamilton. Back to 10.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:37 PM - Post#266406    

Max blows backdoor pass to Dev. Yet. Another. Turnover.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:37 PM - Post#266407    

Wade abuses Tyler again. Largest lead at 52-40, timeout Penn, 5:11 left.

Stuart Suss
PhD Student
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11-18-18 10:39 PM - Post#266408    

Turnovers: Penn 17, KSU 8
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:40 PM - Post#266409    

Mawien fouls Brodeur attempting to post.

Makes both FTs.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:42 PM - Post#266410    

Silpe strips Mawien in post, but Goodman turnover at other end leads to Sneed dunk.

Now Dev air balls a 3.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:42 PM - Post#266411    

Woods horrible turnover, KSU layup in transition.

56-42, 3:12 left, timeout.

Quakers03
Professor
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11-18-18 10:43 PM - Post#266412    

Oh well. Tough to compete handicapped with fouls on bigs. I just wish we wouldn't have given it away as easily as Mason gave it to us last week. That was an ugly half.
penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 10:44 PM - Post#266413    

Sounded like an ugly game. XPN guys were calling it a rock throwing contest even in the 1st half, and the 2nd half seemed even worse.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:45 PM - Post#266414    

Antonio fouled on FT line pull-up.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:45 PM - Post#266415    

Misses first FT.

Misses second.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:46 PM - Post#266416    

Dev steal, drives and dunks.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:47 PM - Post#266417    

Stokes 2 FTs.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:48 PM - Post#266418    

Dev misses a 3.

Mawien dunk, and it’s 60-44.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:48 PM - Post#266419    

Two Dev FTs.

Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 10:52 PM - Post#266420    

KSU 64-48 FINAL.

10Q
Professor
Posts 23411
11-18-18 10:52 PM - Post#266421    

Tomorrow is another day
penn nation
Professor
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11-18-18 10:56 PM - Post#266422    

As P38 said, this game was house money.

For a good stretch of the 1st half, we were right there.

What's frustrating is that you're in the rare situation of being in the double bonus with more than 10 minutes to play and don't have the players to take advantage of this.
Stuart Suss
PhD Student
Posts 1439
11-18-18 10:57 PM - Post#266423    

Penn 4-20 from behind the arc.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-18-18 11:02 PM - Post#266424    

  • Stuart Suss Said:
Penn 4-20 from behind the arc.



That and Brodeur’s inability to deal with KSU’s physicality were big factors.

Mike Porter
Postdoc
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Mike Porter
11-19-18 12:10 AM - Post#266428    

Yeah bummed our guys didn’t keep it a little closer but we played them tough while shooting poorly and getting nothing offensively from AJ or Max. I mean, we literally got 16 points from 4 starters not named Dev but kept K State engaged and in it the whole game.

That is a very good team, an Elite 8 squad with top 7 players back, and preseason Big 12 Player of the Year.

Some positives to take away:

1) defense continued to be strong both in keeping them off the 3 line and defending it well:
2) I thought outside a few lapses we did a good job keeping them in front of us.
3) We battled them pretty even on the boards.
4) Mike Wang came in when our bigs looked tentative and showed no fear (and did quite a few good things).

Plenty of negatives too, but biggest were losing turnover battle badly, poor shooting, and hesitation on offense at times.

As someone said, tomorrow is another day and a more important game than today because if we play well we have a great shot against Oregon State.

Let’s hope the guys bounce back quickly and make a good showing tomorrow.
Chip Bayers
Professor
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Chip Bayers
11-19-18 12:20 AM - Post#266429    

OSU appears to be a very good defensive team in the early going, so another big challenge. They’ve got some length up front, particularly with the 7-footer Kelley in the rotation, and as a result really shut down the 2-point shots.

SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6413
11-19-18 12:30 AM - Post#266430    

Yes, no moral victories of course, but we went toe to toe with the #12 team in the country for quite a while. To me, the positive was the Defense. Our shooting has papered over the fact that we haven’t been defending quite as well as last year through four games, so I liked seeing us turn in a strong defensive performance against a top level opponent.

While AJ obviously had trouble on offense, I thought we played them pretty evenly when he was in the game. The defense seemed to fall off when he was off the floor. Tyler on Wade was a fine idea — for a possession here and there to show him a different look. It was not something to try repeatedly, or for consecutive possessions. But the fouls left us there.
10Q
Professor
Posts 23411
11-19-18 08:21 AM - Post#266434    

Looks like we are favored today. How could that be?
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32847
11-19-18 09:30 AM - Post#266436    

Agreed, we're not ready as a program to match up with K-State's physicality up front. Obviously, we could have kept it closer if we hit our FTs, though and the fact we kept getting to the line shows our ability to get to the hoop. But our 2 bigs were virtually shut out. Let's move on---we still are playing well as a team.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3589
11-19-18 03:19 PM - Post#266453    

Our defense against an elite 8 team was spectacular. We held them to 28 first half points last night and 64 for the game. We are again a top 100 defense. KState is a top 10 defensive team and it showed last night. Great experience for our guys.



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