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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4477 
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11-27-18 03:11 PM - Post#267238
I'm seeing Penn -19.5 We should be able to cover, yes? Chuck Daly visited me last night and told me that both Michael Wang and Bryce Washington are going to score their uniform numbers. But Mark Jackson won't. Still should be enough... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-27-18 03:16 PM - Post#267239
Daly |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
11-27-18 03:24 PM - Post#267241
Speaking of jersey numbers, anyone notice the switch by Dev to #33? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-27-18 03:27 PM - Post#267242
Yes---although it was not in the program. Perhaps 12 had a stain |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2139 |
11-27-18 04:13 PM - Post#267244
Speaking of jersey numbers, anyone notice the switch by Dev to #33? The announcers mentioned that some of Penn's equipment didn't make it back from the Virgin Islands, and Goodman's jersey was in that category. Hence the change of number. |
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hashtagonions Pre-Frosh Posts 2 |
11-27-18 08:29 PM - Post#267273
Anyone able to get the stream working? This is a KP 353 type website. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 08:32 PM - Post#267274
Looks like you have to register and pay to view. Which, two minutes in, means you still wouldn't have seen us score. |
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LyleGold PhD Student Posts 1712 |
11-27-18 08:34 PM - Post#267275
I've tried to sign up, but it's a dead website. Anyone figure it out? |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618 
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11-27-18 08:34 PM - Post#267276
Haha, yeah I am also having trouble. I would pay, but there isn't even an option for a package when I choose to sign up. |
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hashtagonions Pre-Frosh Posts 2 |
11-27-18 08:35 PM - Post#267277
It finally loaded for me in IE. Didn't need to sign up or anything. http://www.dsuhornets.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?... |
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UPIA1968 PhD Student Posts 1121 
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11-27-18 08:37 PM - Post#267278
says media not supported. Any hints to a solution? |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618
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11-27-18 08:37 PM - Post#267279
Hmm I have a Mac and not working on Chrome or Safari |
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LyleGold PhD Student Posts 1712 |
11-27-18 08:38 PM - Post#267280
Thanks - I got it to load on Safari! |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 08:38 PM - Post#267281
Old school indeed. I only have Chrome and Edge on the home unit. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 08:40 PM - Post#267282
Boy, that escalated quickly. |
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LyleGold PhD Student Posts 1712 |
11-27-18 08:41 PM - Post#267283
Del St. announcer keeps saying,"Jake Slipe". |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 08:43 PM - Post#267284
When announcing Cubs games on WGN, Lou Boudreau could never say "Schmidt" in reference to the Philly slugger. It always sounded like "Smit". |
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Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
11-27-18 08:45 PM - Post#267285
Renegade internet feed for those having trouble with the official DSU video. |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618
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11-27-18 08:51 PM - Post#267286
I will try that Stu - what is the trick? Basically just don't download anything? |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618
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11-27-18 08:57 PM - Post#267287
Oh well, I tried but no dice so will just listen in |
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Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
11-27-18 08:59 PM - Post#267288
Mike (and others), Wait for the ad clock to end. Wait for the red bar to appear below the video. Press the play button on the red bar only. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 09:05 PM - Post#267289
So, we go down 5-0 early in the first 2 minutes. For the rest of the half, we outscore them 38-12 with 3 minutes to play. 7 players with a triple (only 3 behind last year's mark against this squad). |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618
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11-27-18 09:10 PM - Post#267290
Only listening, but sounds like we didn't finish the half like we'd want to see. Our 20+ point lead down to 14 after a 3 at the buzzer. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
11-27-18 09:15 PM - Post#267291
How'd they give up 10 points in the last 3 minutes? Sixers d? |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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11-27-18 09:16 PM - Post#267292
Antonio Woods enters game shooting 25% from the line in D-I games, and of course misses his only attempt in the half. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 09:28 PM - Post#267294
That bomb by Washington puts our 3 pt shooting % for the game better than our FT%. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 09:31 PM - Post#267295
And Woods' 2 made FTs put FTs back up by a smidgen. This one will go back and forth all night, most likely. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-27-18 09:32 PM - Post#267296
And Max's performance at the line now puts us in a current deadlock. Oy. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23368 |
11-27-18 09:36 PM - Post#267297
Use Explorer as your browser. Here's the link. I'm watching. http://www.dsuhornets.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?... |
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10Q Professor Posts 23368 |
11-27-18 09:38 PM - Post#267298
Great steal and finish by Dev! |
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Stuart Suss PhD Student Posts 1439 |
11-27-18 09:47 PM - Post#267301
Penn 10-17 on 3s 8-23 on 2s 10-19 on FTs |
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10Q Professor Posts 23368 |
11-27-18 09:47 PM - Post#267302
20 foot behind the back pass by Rothschild but Brodeur misses the 3. Nice 3 by Donahue and he also did some nice mopping of the floor during a free throw sequence. |
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10Q Professor Posts 23368 |
11-27-18 10:12 PM - Post#267304
Mark Jackson with the block just before the buzzer ends the game. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
11-27-18 10:16 PM - Post#267305
The team missed countless layups and still won by almost 30...Defense wins championships. Who would have thought that a hallmark of Steve teams would turn out to be defense. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3777 |
11-27-18 10:22 PM - Post#267307
The man can coach. As has been mentioned before, we believe in Steve. |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
11-28-18 08:43 AM - Post#267313
You can't read too much into a game like this but Washington had a stat stuffer performance. FTs will bite this team at some point. Missing bunnies may also bite. The pre-conference schedule picks up now. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-28-18 08:50 AM - Post#267314
We did what we had to do. Now what we have to do is drop ratings killers like Delaware State and replace with at least schools at the MAAC level. We dropped Rider, for example, after losing 2 or 3 in a row. We still play Monmouth. But teams like Rider, Manhattan, Fordham or Iona are much better games to play than bottom of the rung MEAC teams. |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4477
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11-28-18 09:10 AM - Post#267318
Isn't the schedule made a year or two in advance? I suspect that as the team continues to improve, so will its OOC schedule. Isn't it markedly better than 4-5 years ago? I will also predict our free throw shooting will improve as the year goes on, although it still might bite us is the arse one or two games... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-28-18 09:15 AM - Post#267319
Not really, although it is markedly better than the last 2 years.In Jerome's final season, we played Rider, Lafayette, Wagner (when they were good), Navy, Binghamton, Marist, Vanderbilt, Niagara and Monmouth, in addition to the Big 5 and Ivies. I'd like to get back to that concentration on MAAC teams rather than teams like Delaware State to fill out the schedule. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-28-18 09:21 AM - Post#267321
Local Dover newspaper article on the game: https://delawarestatenews .net/sport/young-hornets-... |
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Cvonvorys Postdoc Posts 4477
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11-28-18 09:23 AM - Post#267322
I'd like to get back to that concentration on MAAC teams rather than teams like Delaware State to fill out the schedule. No surprise here, but once again we agree... |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
11-28-18 09:34 AM - Post#267323
Well... let's wait a second on what a ratings killer is anymore. Thus far, it seems like the teams that are outperforming most are those that have killed it against bad schedules (not just winning, but winning by a lot to post gaudy raw efficiency differentials). If that's true, then winning huge at Delaware St. might not be the ratings killer it used to be. In fact, it might provide a solid boost. The NET update for this morning isn't posted yet, but we'll have to see where Penn ends up after that result is included. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-28-18 09:35 AM - Post#267324
Very well, let's just call them interest killer games, then. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
11-28-18 09:49 AM - Post#267325
That I get for sure. |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
11-28-18 09:58 AM - Post#267326
"I'm seeing Penn -19.5 We should be able to cover, yes? Chuck Daly visited me last night and told me that both Michael Wang and Bryce Washington are going to score their uniform numbers. But Mark Jackson won't. Still should be enough... " Didn't see the game last night because I was playing tennis (and this might have been mentioned on the broadcast), but Coach said after the game that Wang would have played a lot more last night but he was sick during the game. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3777 |
11-28-18 10:01 AM - Post#267327
I've noticed that the two freshmen who are getting a lot of PT both seem to be pretty good FT shooters. J. Simmons also shoots them well. It's possible that the coaches are trying to solve this problem by recruiting it away. BTW, I'm also delighted to see two 'shmen playing a key role. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
11-28-18 10:17 AM - Post#267328
Didn't see the game last night because I was playing tennis (and this might have been mentioned on the broadcast), but Coach said after the game that Wang would have played a lot more last night but he was sick during the game. Being in an airport for 24 hours the week before probably didn't help. |
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besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
11-28-18 10:37 AM - Post#267329
Bryce Washington is currently shooting ~56% from 3, which probably means he needs to start taking more 3s. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8240 
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11-28-18 11:21 AM - Post#267336
SO happy to be done with these mostly useless games. I long for the days when we could ridicule PU for scheduling them. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
11-28-18 11:29 AM - Post#267338
At least we didn't lose to any of them. |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4361 |
11-28-18 11:40 AM - Post#267342
I don't think they are useless especially when you've lost a top player for the season and you're trying to get some newbies and others that haven't had extensive PT in past years comfortable on the court. Perhaps top 50 teams think playing Ivy League teams useless. Note that Big 10 teams are playing 20 in conference games this year. I think you'll see this trend proliferating in the power conferences. It's going to be harder and harder to schedule name opponents in the future. They'd rather beat each other up in front of 20,000 fans than play a mid major in what they probably consider to be nothing more than a filler game. We obviously view such a game much differently. |
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Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
11-28-18 11:45 AM - Post#267343
asia, they don't have to play the right side of the distribution tail, just don't play the left side. of course this stupid net rating thing may make that challenging. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8240
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11-28-18 12:42 PM - Post#267349
I can understand scheduling one cupcake after the finals layoff, but, as Jeff points out, do we have to go to D-3 teams? |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3777 |
11-28-18 01:01 PM - Post#267352
Bryce Washington is currently shooting ~56% from 3, which probably means he needs to start taking more 3s. I'm always suspicious of those sorts of arguments. It's likely that he's shooting it so well because he's taking smart shots. Donahue really emphasizes good decision making in his system, and we certainly don't want players to be forcing things. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
11-28-18 01:17 PM - Post#267353
Bryce Washington is currently shooting ~56% from 3, which probably means he needs to start taking more 3s. I'm always suspicious of those sorts of arguments. It's likely that he's shooting it so well because he's taking smart shots. Donahue really emphasizes good decision making in his system, and we certainly don't want players to be forcing things. Yes. A better argument is that he should play more minutes and he will subsequently get more shots. As his defense and understanding improves, this will likely happen. |
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besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
11-28-18 01:33 PM - Post#267354
He's taken 7 more 3s than Jackson in 70 more minutes. That seems like someone who's not using enough volume considering no other starter is even at 40% from 3 right now. |
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13otto Masters Student Posts 779 
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11-28-18 02:01 PM - Post#267357
I can understand scheduling one cupcake after the finals layoff, but, as Jeff points out, do we have to go to D-3 teams? In order to schedule a 30th game this year? The answer is "yes".
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penn nation Professor Posts 21193 |
11-28-18 03:20 PM - Post#267362
It's likely that he's shooting it so well because he's taking smart shots. Donahue really emphasizes good decision making in his system, and we certainly don't want players to be forcing things. Yeah, this. Earlier in their careers Foreman and Woods were rightly getting critiqued for their shooting...they were forcing it up a lot leading to a lot of misses. They both learned over time how to pick their spots within the offense. A very good sign if Washington even in his freshman year understands this. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32815 |
11-28-18 03:22 PM - Post#267364
Plus, he appears from the start to be a more natural shooter than either of them. |
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91Quake PhD Student Posts 1125 |
11-28-18 04:27 PM - Post#267382
He is a good shooter. My impression is he needs to get a little stronger and work on his timing going to the hoop. He may just need some experience at this level but hopefully can add that to his game to keep the defense from overplaying him. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3585 |
11-28-18 04:38 PM - Post#267383
He's taken 7 more 3s than Jackson in 70 more minutes. That seems like someone who's not using enough volume considering no other starter is even at 40% from 3 right now. Jackson "Catch and Release" Donahue? Not a fair comparison as Jackson's role is to come in and shoot it from anywhere (Jackson is shooting 45% from 3 by the way). Bryce has taken the 3rd most 3's on the team behind Goodman and Woods and has made the most. Goodman and Woods both play 10-12 minutes more than Bryce. He has taken more 3's than Silpe or Wang, both of whom play equal or greater minutes. If you increase his minutes, he will take more 3's. I really can't remember him passing up many open 3's, nor do i remember him taking any stupid 3's. Jackson? not so much. I think if Bryce get's more minutes, he will have more 3's. |
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Silver Maple Postdoc Posts 3777 |
11-28-18 08:24 PM - Post#267424
All of this suggests that Bryce Washington might turn out to be a star. |
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