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BisonRoadWarrior
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BisonRoadWarrior
12-11-18 01:17 PM - Post#268582    

Noon ET Saturday on Big Ten Network.

Buckeye coach Chris Holtmann:

"Ten days (between games) is a long time,” he said. “We play a very good Bucknell team that won 25 games last year and almost beat Michigan State the year before. Been to the NCAA Tournament in back-to-back years. They’re very good.

"You’re always concerned about this layoff and bringing your kids back. Conditioning, how sharp will you be; there will be some rust we’ll have to shake off. (Tuesday) we’re going to play an extended scrimmage, because we’re off on Wednesday. Try to get our guys back sharper. We were a little bit better (Monday) than we were (Sunday). We were not very good (Sunday). Some of it is the fatigue with finals and studying – at least I hope that was the reason. We try to give them adequate rest but at the same time keep them sharp and ready to go for noon on Saturday."
https://www.dispatch.com/sports/20181210/ohio- stat...
Bison89
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12-11-18 05:28 PM - Post#268612    

With both teams coming off a long break, both teams should be a bit rusty.
New season, new team, new dream . . .

BisonFan4
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12-11-18 05:40 PM - Post#268616    

We match up good against Ohio State, I'm expecting a W in Columbus!
Bison137
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12-11-18 06:13 PM - Post#268622    

Bison Game Article:

https://bucknellbison.com/news/2018/12/11/mens- bas...


Taken from the article: the Bison are one of only six schools in the nation to be undefeated on the road in 3+ road games. The six are:

Team Road Record Next Road Game
Furman 5-0 Dec. 21 at LSU
UC Irvine 4-0 Dec. 18 at Eastern Michigan
Bucknell 3-0 Dec. 15 at Ohio State
#14/15 Buffalo 3-0 Dec. 18 at Syracuse
Kent State 3-0 Dec. 15 at Louisville
Penn 3-0 Dec. 22 at New Mexico



MrPhillie
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12-11-18 07:23 PM - Post#268632    

Pretty nice. It is the 1-3 record at home with an ugly loss and several ugly performances that balance out that good work on the road.
KenZ
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12-13-18 11:50 AM - Post#269001    

Coach Davis made his first appearance of the season on the Stave Jones Show yesterday

http://stevejonesshow.com/podcast-new/

Meeks likely to be ready for some minutes against OSU, a bit ahead of earlier expectations

asked about the slow starts, said they have a few theories, have changed the way they are practicing hoping that will help get them off to better starts.

other than Fairfield game, thinks the team has showed improvement each game.
Bison89
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12-15-18 10:31 AM - Post#269139    

Looks like the Buckeye fans are completely dismissing the Bison. They are focused on UCLA which I guess is their next game. They are expecting a 20+ point win over the Bison.

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Bo ard/123...

GO BISON!!!
New season, new team, new dream . . .

bison63
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12-15-18 11:43 AM - Post#269141    

In fact the Bucknell thread on their board does not even mention us by name, and there was no discussion of the game other than the “ should win by 20” comment at least as of last night. We can only hope the players feel the same way.
Bison89
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12-15-18 12:37 PM - Post#269142    

63, I could not agree more.

Let's hope that Sestina can stay out of foul trouble and that our guards are hitting 3-pointers.
New season, new team, new dream . . .

jkrun80
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12-15-18 01:42 PM - Post#269146    

Great 1st half. Thought OSU would have to cool off at some point.
Bison89
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Bison89
12-15-18 01:43 PM - Post#269147    

Can we end the game right now?!!!
New season, new team, new dream . . .

res
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12-15-18 01:44 PM - Post#269148    

Always nice seeing brw, no matter whether in arena or on the screen as I watch from home.
Good 1st half.

Bucknellbisonfan21
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12-15-18 01:52 PM - Post#269149    

It’s great to see Meeks back and contributing.
jkrun80
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12-15-18 02:06 PM - Post#269150    

Dumb foul by Sestina.
Old Bison
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12-15-18 02:30 PM - Post#269152    

Ditto
MrPhillie
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MrPhillie
12-15-18 02:38 PM - Post#269154    

Sorry, but Nate commits a lot of dumb fouls. Just got his 5th on a horrible screen where he obviously turned his body. Not smart. And a minute later a dumb reach in foul 27’ from the basket by Moore.
Old Bison
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12-15-18 02:43 PM - Post#269156    

Ditto
Bucknellbisonfan21
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12-15-18 03:04 PM - Post#269159    

Proud of the way the team fought until the end, disappointing we couldn’t get a clean shot off at the end.
MrPhillie
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12-15-18 03:11 PM - Post#269161    

Yes it was a valiant effort. I knew the hot 3-pt shooting wouldn’t last in the second half, but the Bison almost pulled it off anyway. Ohio State made mistakes as well and both teams looked a little ragged at times, but overall a good showing by Bucknell. The last possession was disappointing, once Sotos, I believe, started driving the right side to nowhere, I knew it wouldn’t end well. Nice to see Meeks back out there. I would’ve liked to see how things played out of Nate was able to stay on the floor more often. It’s just something he’ll have to figure out.
BUFan
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BUFan
12-15-18 03:23 PM - Post#269162    

Hell of an effort. This should build some nice confidence for the younger guys on the team.
HuskyColonial
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12-15-18 06:38 PM - Post#269173    

Didn’t see the game. Stats suggest Sotos played well and apparently we played at least a little defense.
bison63
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12-15-18 08:49 PM - Post#269183    

That was a statement loss, lol. I don’t believe in moral victories, but this was one. Last year we had a team that we wanted to see win a game or two like this. They didn’t and that was a huge disappointment. But this year, with so many unknowns, this loss feels much better than the Maryland loss felt last year. This team is coming!
Bison137
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12-15-18 10:34 PM - Post#269188    

  • HuskyColonial Said:
Didn’t see the game. Stats suggest Sotos played well and apparently we played at least a little defense.



1. I also didn't see the game, but I would agree. Defense gave up 1.07 points per possession, which is slightly worse than normal - but they were playing a really strong team, not Canisius or La Salle. Bison D did better against them than did Creighton or Minnesota, and only slightly worse than the Syracuse D.

2. As for Sotos, he started the year doing some good things but turning over the ball too much. But over the past five games, it has gotten a lot better - and today he had only one turnover against a quick, athletic team. And that turnover was an offensive foul. Over the past five games, his assist to turnover ratio has been 2:1 or better.

He is also 59th in the nation in Pomeroy's assist rate, plus is shooting 47% on twos and 50% on threes.



  • MrPhillie Said:
Sorry, but Nate commits a lot of dumb fouls. Just got his 5th on a horrible screen where he obviously turned his body. Not smart. And a minute later a dumb reach in foul 27’ from the basket by Moore.



3. I would have agreed with this last year (or previous years), but despite the fouls today, Nate has made enormous improvement this year in not taking unnecessary fouls. Here are his fouls per 40 numbers for his career:

Frosh: 9.6 per 40
Soph: 6.2
Junior: 5.6
Senior: 3.5 (Was 2.6 before today)

For reference, Nate's 3.5 fouls per 40 is much better than Nana did in any of his four years. And it is equivalent to Muscala's average for his first three years. (Muscala's foul number got a lot better his senior year, but he had the advantage of a lot more height and jumping ability - which meant he didn't have to guard post players as physically.)


  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Proud of the way the team fought until the end, disappointing we couldn’t get a clean shot off at the end.



4. Yes, proud of the effort. Could have easily been a win. Agree the last shot was disappointing. OSU said after the game that they anticipated the play the Bison would run and jumped it. But apparently there were no viable options when that happened. In hindsight, the ball quickly needed to go to Avi on the right wing. If nothing else, he had time for a couple of aggressive dribble and then a pull-up jumper.

5. Great effort by the Bison in the turnover department. Despite the level of competition, they had only eight turnovers. Even more impressive is that five of those eight were offensive fouls, as opposed to travels, bad passes, OSU steals, etc. In fact, through the first 33 minutes, BU only had one turnover other than an offensive foul.

6. One stat that hurt was the Bison offensive rebounding. Of 35 available offensive rebounds, they got only 5 (a very subpar 14.3%). At the other end, BU got 72.7% of the defensive rebounds, which is better than their average.

7. Nice to see Meeks back. I think he will play an important role as he gets back into the swing of things.

8. Andrew Funk started the year 0-12 on threes. Since then, he is 6-8 - including 2-3 today. As he gains more experience and confidence, I expect him to become an important player off the bench in PL play.



Bison137
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12-15-18 11:03 PM - Post#269192    

One more point I should have added is that after today's game, Avi is averaging 16 ppg over the last three, with 13+ each game. He has hit 6-11 on twos and 10-19 on threes.



MrPhillie
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12-16-18 12:26 AM - Post#269199    

I want to say that I regret the use of the word “dumb” to describe some of Nate’s fouls. I think some are simply poor choices or over-aggressiveness for the moment. As a senior he has to be cognizant of the situation and be careful. With his skills he definitely could be a difference-maker at the end of any game. As 137’s stats show, he has made great strides over his career.
Bison89
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12-16-18 02:16 AM - Post#269201    

Fun game to watch. Free throws continue to haunt this team.

It will be fun to see this team grow throughout the season. Hopefully, they will peak around PL tournament time.
New season, new team, new dream . . .

KenZ
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12-16-18 11:31 AM - Post#269213    

link to site with post game press conference video

http://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ohio-state-basketball ...

Coach Davis ...... OSU players ....... Coach Holtmann

lomg gaps between segments. Holtmann much classier interview than Izzo was. never been an OSU fan, but will root for them over MSU for sure.
Bison137
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12-16-18 11:40 AM - Post#269214    

  • Bison89 Said:
Fun game to watch. Free throws continue to haunt this team.






What made it painful was the timing of the misses - especially the two by Bruce with 8 minutes left. But their overall FT shooting was pretty good. They hit 13-18 (.722), the exact same mark as OSU had. If they could hit .722 every game, it would rank them 94th in the nation (out of 351).

Bison have a number of good FT shooters, and two or three problem ones. FT shooting on the year:

Mackenzie 33-40 (.825)
Sestina 23-28 (.821)
Sotos 13-17 (.765)
Meeks 3-4 (.750)
Newman 21-31 (.677)
Moore 20-30 (.667)
Toomer 10-22 (.455)
Robertson 2-9 (.222)

The two who have struggled from the line are obvious, but generally Newman has struggled some as well. He hit 9-10 vs Northeastern, but is only 12-21 (57%) in other games, including at least two banks. He was 6-13 as a freshman.

I think Avi's problems at the line are more mental than physical. Last year he went 10-12, following a poor freshman year from the line. But in a much larger sample, i.e. his HS career, he hit 445-611 (73%). Moore, btw, has hit 93-128 (73%) over his career at Bucknell.



Bison137
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12-16-18 12:05 PM - Post#269215    

For anyone who wants to see a replay of the entire game, it is available on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bza_2CuBfrc



KenZ
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12-16-18 12:51 PM - Post#269218    

  • Bison137 Said:


Toomer 10-22 (.455)

I think Avi's problems at the line are more mental than physical. Last year he went 10-12, following a poor freshman year from the line. But in a much larger sample, i.e. his HS career, he hit 445-611 (73%). Moore, btw, has hit 93-128 (73%) over his career at Bucknell.



agree about the mental aspect. remember he started the first three games in a funk going 2-11, but has since gotten back on track and is 8-11 since then.




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