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Eric Von Zipper Senior Posts 343 |
02-23-19 02:01 PM - Post#277681
Opens Princeton -7 I'm going out on a limb and say the last time Columbia swept the "P's" on the road, Dave Newmark, Heywood Dotson and Jim McMillian were controlling the boards for the Light Blue. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2274 
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02-23-19 04:27 PM - Post#277692
Ah yes, I remember it well. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-23-19 05:41 PM - Post#277702
It is somewhat baffling regarding Cannady last evening. Unlike the 3 games that he missed, I do not believe that he was on the bench. It will be interesting if he playing this evening or is on the bench. Hope that is only preparing for Court date and not something else. With the missed games, it is highly unlikely that he will finish in 2nd place on the All Time Scoring List or be able to beat up Coach Earl for career 3 pointers but he did bring it upon himself. Schrieger was obviously a phenomenal substitute last night but that performance will be very difficult to replicate. Tape was impressive at Columbia. Stephens needs to shut down Stefani and Llewellyn needs to give Adlesh a tough time. Schrieger ate up Adlesh in the last game on offense. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
02-23-19 10:33 PM - Post#277761
Up 10 with 8 to play but starting to look ragged. Will they put theLions away or lose a big lead again? |
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gokinsmen Postdoc Posts 3666 |
02-23-19 10:56 PM - Post#277765
What a weekend! As great as Cannady is, it's been a pleasure watching his teammates grow in his absence. Hopefully Devin comes back with this whole incident behind him -- we 100% need him to have a chance at winning that tourney. Schweiger gave us the production and 3pt shooting Devin usually does and everyone contributed in their own way, including Johns and Wright. Jaelin is such a fascination player -- despite his anemic shooting %s, he's clearly a huge positive. He comes up with every loose ball and never turns it over under pressure. He's a one-man press-breaker. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
02-23-19 11:33 PM - Post#277772
Very nice job pulling away at the end. Big games by a lot of players. 3-pt shooting came back nicely. If JL ever starts hitting even 50 % of his layups then watchout! Max Johns defense is really solid. Feeling good about this team. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-23-19 11:51 PM - Post#277773
Wright and Johns are starting to get additional minutes especially with Arirguzoh foul trouble. Wright reminds me a bit of Cook when he was a freshmen although 3 inches shorter. He has athleticism plus he has a shooter's touch. Wright and Johns will get minutes from Morales going forward which is understandable. Columbia is a much improved team and they played well thru the first 16 minutes.Tape is a good player as is Stefanini. Stephens changed the tide with a 3 pointer as the clock was running out with the Tigers down by 5 with less than 4 minutes to go in 1st half. Schweiger had one heck of a weekend. Great news that Harvard beat Yale although the Tigers still have a tough haul to finish #1 in regular season as they need to probably beat both Harvard on the road and Yale at home. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-24-19 12:20 AM - Post#277777
DesRosiers had his best game of the year. Always thought that Jerome and either Schweiger or Much would have to perform well for the Tigers to reach another level. Jerome and Schweiger played great this weekend especially in light of Cannady;s absence and Arirguzoh's tough weekend. Stephens also raised his game this weekend. I think that Mitch has a good pulse on this team. The Tigers are playing very hard and tough defense with strong rebounding. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
02-24-19 12:23 AM - Post#277779
Schwieger was pretty awesome. The defense isn't keying on him that much and he is way better offensively than people have been giving him credit for. He didn't even get to show one of the best parts of his game--cutting to the basket without the ball--because of how the Tigers are playing offense. Llewelyn's decision-making in the half-court when he is the pilot is still kind of shaky. The guy is not that good a finisher in traffic and he persists in driving into hopeless situations without kicking it out when the help arrives. But the improvement in his outside shooting, his press-breaking, and his passing from outside are very nice, and he's been solid defensively. That shot he took from Barba that drew the flagrant foul was a little scary. Defenses have started to converge on Aririguzoh from different directions, and that's cut down on his shot attempts. I liked how he didn't force things too much and made contributions on both ends even though he wasn't scoring. The Tigers should work more on him passing out of the double teams with teammates moving to areas where they can catch it and shoot. Stephens has been fun to watch as he scraps like crazy out there and leads the team. Desrosiers with a big weekend was a relief hitting those treys. Much was much better against Columbia, showing his passing skills and not getting abused so much on D. Obviously, when this team hits anywhere near 50% of its threes it's going to be tough to beat, especially when the turnovers are contained and the rebounding is good. They just need to stop going into those bouts on offense where they stop moving and passing. There's enough scoring ability if they can get the defense moving to create angles or mismatches. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-24-19 12:49 AM - Post#277782
You make good points regarding Llewellyn but his talent is simply insane. He was diving and fighting tonight at an even higher level but his ultimate strength is his ball handling. A little too much confidence regarding his shooting but he is going to be a big time player. Plus, he is the right attitude and mind set. Mitch did exactly the right thing in inserting him in the starting line up Day 1 even with the ups and downs. There will be even greater benefits down the road. Mitch has also done the right thing in transforming the Tiger team to a different model than the past that will compete against not only IL teams but non-conference competition as well. Let's hope that Jaelin stays for at least three years -- he does need to get stronger and he also needs to work on his shooting form and how he finishes. |
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Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2814 |
02-24-19 01:33 AM - Post#277784
And why would Jaelin not stay for FOUR years??? |
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Tiger81 Masters Student Posts 411 
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02-24-19 08:03 AM - Post#277789
Really nice win last night, most complete game I have seen so far this year despite the absence of Cannady. Tigers are somehow 4-0 without Devin all against the Cs. Defense was active and outstanding last night, the ball moved well on offense and the treys finally started to drop, most of which were in-rhythm. I have loved Schweiger’s game since he was a freshman but he has risen to a new level with his confidence and integration into the team’s flow. Completely agree that this weekend Aririguzoh did not force his shots and that over-playing him opened up many other scoring opportunities. I was surprised that they did not even try to feed him that much but their strategy certainly worked. The Tigers control their destiny but were 1-3 against their remaining opponents and each of these games will be battles. Notwithstanding Noah Savage’s enthusiasm about the Ivy tourney, I still lament the demise of the old format because it means Princeton can probably split its final contests and still nab a spot in Ivy Madness, which somehow devalues these games in my mind. But let’s see what happens. If Schweiger, Johns and Wright continue to perform at last night’s level and Stephens, Desrosiers, Llewellyn and Aririguzoh maintain their level of play they will be in every game. I think Sebastian Much could be a difference-maker; if he plays productive minutes and hits open shots that will make this a much deeper and harder-to-defend team. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2274
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02-24-19 08:53 AM - Post#277790
Aririguzoh did not force his shots and that over-playing him opened up many other scoring opportunities Columbia in particular was pushing him out from the low block to get the ball, making the entry pass very difficult, and giving him no space to operate with the ball. Not sure what can be done about this other than kick out to the open man and swing to the other side and start over again. I do think however that the entry pass to Richmond is often a beat slow, giving the defender time to close on him and overplay the passing lane. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-24-19 09:15 AM - Post#277794
Prior to the season, Jaelin was identified as one of five mid-major players that could be one and done. This commentary was obviously made prior to his injury. You never know but if his performance takes off, it is not out realm of possibility that he could fall into the Oni category who might declare for the draft this year. Morgan considered it after his junior year. Jaelin needs to build strength and improve his shooting skills but he has God given talent. Time will tell. As the talent level rises in IL, other players may start to fall into the category of possibly going early. Fortunately, attending an IL school may temper the temptation. |
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sparman PhD Student Posts 1346 
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02-24-19 11:18 AM - Post#277803
Hopefully he is as talented overall as the hype implies, but it's hard for me to see a player with his current shooting performance level have going pro as a viable option. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
02-24-19 01:18 PM - Post#277817
I’m very impressed with JL’s ball handling and maturity for a freshman but let’s get real. He’s shooting 25 percent from three, under 60% from FT and is only finishing on about 20% of his drives. He has enormous potential but to see him getting to the next level is crazy talk right now. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2691 |
02-24-19 01:22 PM - Post#277819
Uh, he’s unlikely to be ROY in his own midmajor league. How does that warrant NBA talk? |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-24-19 02:19 PM - Post#277822
Let's check back one year from now and see how he is performing. I will put it on the calender for a reality check to see how crazy I am. Over the weekend, he literally could get by just about anybody at anytime as noted by Savage and Jones. |
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Tiger81 Masters Student Posts 411
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02-24-19 03:44 PM - Post#277831
Coach Henderson noted that Llewelyn had no turnovers in 36 minutes against Columbia, which is remarkable given how much of the time the ball was in his hands. He has also been a big part of Princeton’s increased defensive intensity in league play. I agree that he is a work-in-progress and that his outside shooting and inconsistency in finishing at the rim are going to need to improve. But a learning curve is not surprising given that he has been asked to be the team’s PG from Day One. Once he adapts those parts of his game to college-level competition he will be able to fully capitalize on his quickness and court vision and realize his “top 100 recruit†billing. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2691 |
02-24-19 04:07 PM - Post#277840
I was not questioning Llewelyn’s skills or talent. He is Princeton’s starting PG as a frosh. I reacted to the 1 and done talk floating around. As Harvard has experienced, there is a HUGE difference between a marginal top 100 player and a top 10 talent. Llewellyn will be a meaningful player in this league, but may not be all Ivy yet. As a freshman, Aiken was first team. Let’s see about Llewelyn. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
02-24-19 04:46 PM - Post#277850
Kind of funny that Princeton is 6-0 against the Mid-Atlantic and 1-3 against New England in conference. Time to change that narrative next weekend with a sweep. |
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Tiger81 Masters Student Posts 411
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02-24-19 05:49 PM - Post#277855
Bradley noted that there was pre-season hype about Llewelyn being a candidate for one and done and speculated that it was conceivable that he could declare for the draft before exhausting his eligibility “if his performance takes offâ€. But I have not seen any commentary that suggests that he has had a ROY season let alone jumping to the pros (at least yet!). Another interesting data point is that he is one of only two Tigers with an assist to turnover ratio that is > 1 at 48/31 (Jose Morales is 42/33 with 101 less minutes of playing time, which was better than I expected). If you are looking for a precocious Harvard player to compare to Jaelin then Siyani Chambers may be a better example. Like Aiken he was ROY and first team All-Ivy as a freshman but as the team’s PG; Aiken played with Chambers when he was a rookie, which surely helped to accelerate his development. |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888 |
02-24-19 06:17 PM - Post#277859
Started keeping a new stat last night: drives to the rim that end in a score vs. drives that end in a missed layup. By my count last night JL had one score and four drives that ended in a miss. He also stopped in the lane and outjuked his defender to score a couple of times with a short, lean-in jumper. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
02-24-19 08:47 PM - Post#277885
If you are looking for a precocious Harvard player to compare to Jaelin then Siyani Chambers may be a better example. Truer than you may realize. Chambers was also a poor finisher at the rim, as Mike James used to point out. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
02-24-19 08:50 PM - Post#277886
I agree with TigerFan that JL was better when he didn't try to get all the way to the rim the last couple of games. Maybe he could work on that Jay-Wright-coached jump-stop and pivot in the lane on drives--it's worked great for Villanova players over the last several seasons when there's too much help near the rim. A floater would be a nice alternative, too. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
02-24-19 09:03 PM - Post#277890
Much like Noah, though even more acute due to the loss of so much of the season due to injury, it's clear if you watch him that he's got all the tools. There are correctable problems that he'll have to work at (for Noah, it's what you can and can't get away off the dribble and the myriad turnovers that's resulted in... for Jaelin, it's completing the move). But yeah, Jaelin's at 37.5% at the rim and taking 45% of his shots there. So the good news is that he can get to the rim. The bad news is obvious, though. The Siyani comparison may be a little off, because Siyani was actually a decent rim finisher when he could get a look, but couldn't even create those looks (his % of shots at the rim was like half of Jaelin's). My hunch is he'll figure that out. And when he does, he's going to be in high, high demand at the next level. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4911 |
02-24-19 09:42 PM - Post#277895
I have very high hopes for Llewelyn. You can see how talented and poised he is. Once the pieces start coming together he could be an all-timer. |
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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842 |
02-25-19 10:49 AM - Post#277924
Uh, he’s unlikely to be ROY in his own midmajor league. How does that warrant NBA talk? If memory serves me correctly, one of my favorites Jeremy Lin better turn in his 11 year NBA union card based on his freshmen performance on a 5-9 6th IL team averaging 4.8pts in 18 minutes per game. Also making or not making 1st team All Ivy as a freshmen will not be determinative if any IL player can ever somehow find their way to the NBA which needless to say is an unbelievable challenge. Needless to say, I never suggested that Jaelin would be a one and done player nor do I have any idea if he can ever play one minute in the NBA. My only comment is that he is blessed with unique skills and one only had to witness Duke pressuring seasoned Yale backcourt players vs. the success of Duke pressuring Llewellyn in his 3rd game. Although there are many factors in the success or failure of a team, Princeton is 11-5 with LLewellyn as a freshmen starting PG with road losses against Duke, St. John's, Yale and Brown. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2691 |
02-25-19 01:09 PM - Post#277949
He's good, and will be a good - maybe great - player in this league. Only 60 players get drafted into the NBA each year so it's hard and hard to tell. Lin not getting drafted but being successful isn't at all relevant. Do you think Bryce Aiken will be drafted? If not, then good luck. |
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