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internetter
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03-19-19 02:07 PM - Post#282079    

Some site says he's transferring somewhere, may not play Wed.

UNCONFIRMED
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internetter
Postdoc
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03-19-19 02:23 PM - Post#282081    

https://www.golocalprov.com/sports/desmond-cambri d...
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palestra38
Professor
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03-19-19 02:26 PM - Post#282082    

Wow.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
03-19-19 02:40 PM - Post#282084    

Wow may be an understatement.

Obviously not sure what led to this decision, but transferring did not work out so well for the last highly rated mid-major player (Leland King) from Brown.
Go Green
PhD Student
Posts 1124
03-19-19 02:42 PM - Post#282085    


Dartmouth can tell you how frustrating it is for this to happen to a program trying to become competitive....

SRP
Postdoc
Posts 4894
03-19-19 03:33 PM - Post#282093    

He sure can't complain that Martin put a leash on him.
HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
03-19-19 03:49 PM - Post#282100    

It is a shame and a big loss to the program.
HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
03-19-19 03:51 PM - Post#282101    

From what I heard, King did not enjoy his time at Brown and it wasn't because he "thought the grass was greener" somewhere else.

Ever True
Junior
Posts 252
03-19-19 03:52 PM - Post#282103    

https://twitter.com/dizzydez24/status/110 808943594...

From his twitter account.

That’s tough news to get right before your first post-season game in 5 years. There’s a lot of talent on this team and I’m optimistic about the players Mike has coming in for next season, but that’s a gut blow. Most of all, I’ll miss seeing Cambridge play. The energy, the excitement that he brought to the game was infectious and he made watching Brown basketball fun. I wish he was sticking around to see out his four years because I think he could have been part of something special, but I wish him all the best and hope his next team helps him fulfill whatever goals he has set for himself.
bballfan24
Pre-Frosh
Posts 5
03-19-19 04:16 PM - Post#282111    

Very short sighted for Cambridge -- he is talented , but he is not top 20 school talented and he is tossing away an Ivy league education. No one is going to give him the green light like martin did -- -- this kid threw up 20 shots a game -and his shooting was horrible during ivy league play --
internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3399
03-19-19 04:29 PM - Post#282117    

It's official: https://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20190319/...
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penn nation
Professor
Posts 21086
03-19-19 04:57 PM - Post#282120    

Couldn't this have waited until after post-season play?

Couldn't he have allowed himself and his teammates the experience of post-season play together before then making this announcement? What was gained by the timing here?
Go Green
PhD Student
Posts 1124
03-19-19 05:01 PM - Post#282122    

  • penn nation Said:
What was gained by the timing here?



The most charitable explanation is that he wished for Brown to begin moving on without him ASAP. Compare what Boudreaux did to Dartmouth (i.e., leaving in the middle of training camp).

A less charitable explanation is that he hasn't decided on his next school and doesn't want to risk injury before he has that scholarship in hand.
HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
03-19-19 05:17 PM - Post#282126    

Only he knows. Would've rode it out until season end.
Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
03-19-19 05:51 PM - Post#282130    

It's so disappointing on so many levels, not the least of which is that Brown has a chance to gain its first-ever 20-win season, and it would be nice to have Dez around for that.

His leaving Brown is an absolute body blow. There is no question about that. But many of us - myself included - have been expecting this might happen. I was wondering about it after his freshman year, and after his non-conference season, it got more real. What I didn't know was the role the Ivy season played in making that happen - whether it would limit his options as to places he could transfer, or whether it would make him more actively seek out a team where opponents wouldn't key on him as much.

The news completely sucks, and takes some of the air out of Wednesday's game, for starters. But it's not a shocker.

Leland King, by the way, ended up doing fine basketball-wise. He had a huge grad year for CSSB, and they ended up being a pretty good team. Unfortunately, he forfeited the Ivy degree. So what you hope for Dez is that the school he's transferring to either a) gets him to the NBA or b) gets him an ample degree.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

mrjames
Professor
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03-19-19 05:58 PM - Post#282131    

I’ve learned my lesson sharing unpopular views on here surrounding transfers, but I don’t know that I’m as doom and gloom about next year’s prospects or the future prospects of the program because of this.

That being said, it clearly takes something out of the CBI game/run.
HARVARDDADGRAD
Postdoc
Posts 2685
03-19-19 06:00 PM - Post#282132    

Feel awful for those involved in the Brown program. King, Massey and now Cambridge. No idea what the connection is, but it's gotta be there.

Noticed that Cambridge went off on his own near the end of the big win at Princeton. Showboating and making very poor decisions - Martin had to pull him. Wondered quietly what that meant.

Cambridge is a unique talent. The league will miss him.
Bill Lewis
Senior
Posts 304
03-19-19 06:57 PM - Post#282141    


"Leland King, by the way, ended up doing fine basketball-wise. He had a huge grad year for CSSB"

Do you mean the University of California - Santa Barbara?







Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
03-19-19 07:07 PM - Post#282142    

Sorry - UC Santa Barbara. Not Cal State.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

HARVARDDADGRAD
Postdoc
Posts 2685
03-19-19 07:58 PM - Post#282145    

2017-18 First Team All Big West
15.6ppg
10.2rpg

Averaged a double double
Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts 3615
Mike Porter
03-19-19 11:47 PM - Post#282173    

Wow... that sucks and sorry to hear that for Mike Martin and Brown fans.

I have to agree that:

1) Its a crap move to announce this BEFORE post season games after a good season, and step forward for the program.

2) If this is a basketball based decision and he just wants to go to a bigger program, that's a dumb, short sighted decision as he could have gotten an Ivy League degree and recognition at Brown, especially when they were looking like a top 4 team next year for sure. Playing at Yale sure hasn't stopped Oni from getting a lot of scouting love...

Anyone have an inside scoop on the logic, or lack thereof here for this move?
HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
03-20-19 02:31 AM - Post#282181    

Heard that he did not enjoy his time while at Brown. At some point, some kids may choose overall happiness.
T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
PhD Student
Posts 1169
03-20-19 09:56 AM - Post#282192    

Yeah, this stinks. Loved watching him play, even if he did make life tough for my team. That baseline spin move and dunk against Woods at the Palestra was some eye-popping, high-major stuff right there.

To my eyes, he's the most exciting player the conference has seen in a long time, maybe since Onyekwe. Hope he lands at a program that's a good fit for him.
Naismith
Sophomore
Posts 149
03-20-19 10:12 AM - Post#282193    

I doubt if it's the parents encouraging their kids to pass up an Ivy degree for what amounts to an NBA Lotto chance. Kids should watch a couple of their games on ESPN+ replay, then a couple NBA games, and then look in the mirror.

Maybe Oni and Towns are a couple of D-League years away from a shot, but All-Ivy level kids are more likely to extend their careers in Europe. And that's not a bad option for many reasons.
jst4245
Freshman
Posts 63
03-20-19 10:20 AM - Post#282195    

Tough loss for the Bears and for Cambridge IMO.

From a basketball standpoint I am not sure what else he could have asked for. He had carte blanche (with terrible %) for two years and clearly was going to be given the same green light for two more. Word is there were NBA scouts not only at Bears games but practices as well this year - so he was getting the exposure kids dream of. While he was the most exciting player in the Ivy League in quite some time, I am afraid (for him) he is going to blend right in on a high major team and will be relegated to more of a spot up shooter type of role. He was able to get away with his inability to dribble in the Ivy League, but that will be exposed real quick at a higher level.

Something tells me that Bruce Weber or Mark Turgeon will not be as accepting of his 27 footers as Martin was.

Wish the kid the best, sad to see him go.


rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
03-20-19 01:03 PM - Post#282217    

HGA,

You mentioned in this thread that both Cambridge and King did not enjoy their time at Brown.

I know that Columbia had a number of people leave from last year's team, but over the last several years, Brown seems to have had more players leave or transfer than others in the league.

Do you have any idea if their unhappiness was due to the academics, the team, the coaching staff or other reasons?
HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
03-20-19 03:07 PM - Post#282226    

Brown has lost a number of players due to transfer over the past few years and I too wonder why. I don't know King, but heard he had some differences with the coaching staff (there are two sides to every story!). Regarding Dez, I believe that it was a number of factors. He is a bright kid who is very passionate about basketball. He will have an opportunity to play at a higher ranked basketball program and hopefully have the opportunity to replicate the success he had at Brown. It's a shame that he wont graduate with a Brown degree but I'm sure he'll be fine at the end.
SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6391
03-20-19 05:31 PM - Post#282257    

Perhaps to your point, it is kind of amazing that Brown went 7-7 in the league with a guy playing huge minutes with a 75 ORAT and 30% usage rate. Gives you a sense of how efficient everyone else was.

It’s never as simple as just saying they’ll replace all those possessions with guys with higher ORATs — it is probably the case that the other ORATs were so high in part because of all the defensive focus on Cambridge. For all the Penn focus on analytics, it was pretty clear that they didn’t just say “that guy will shoot Brown out of the game” — they still put Woods on him and defended him like he was the best player in the court.

But I think Okolie is actually the bigger loss for Brown.
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 4894
03-20-19 08:05 PM - Post#282273    

Yeah, losing both Okolie and Cambridge may affect the defense next year. Okolie was obviously a very good defender, and Cambridge had a way of being disruptive, especially with his shot blocking.
Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3988
03-20-19 09:41 PM - Post#282283    

They did a pretty good job on UAB, and Anderson was hurt and did't play.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
04-19-19 12:26 PM - Post#283814    

According to his twitter feed, his choices are between Stanford, Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech.

An article at 247 Sports notes that his sister is a rising sophomore on the Vanderbilt women's team.

https://247sports.com/college/vanderbilt/Ar ticle/V...


Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
04-20-19 10:31 PM - Post#283835    

Let’s hope for two of the three. Stanford or going home to play at Vanderbilt - also a terrific school - would be great outcomes for Dez.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
04-21-19 07:20 AM - Post#283837    

I’d say it’s Vanderbilt. Good academic school, at home, and where his sister plays at too.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3580
04-21-19 04:59 PM - Post#283848    

I agree Vandy is the likely landing spot. The other point is that, like the IL, Stanford rarely takes transfers.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
04-24-19 09:00 AM - Post#283916    

Cambridge is now down to Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech.

http://southeasthoops.com/2019/04/23/vanderbilt -ma...
Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
04-25-19 10:51 PM - Post#283940    

Vandy would seem much more appealing. Stays home. Joins a rebuilding team that doesn’t already have great guards. Playing for Stackhouse would seem to be appealing. And the academic credential is far better than VT.

What you can’t account for is the new coach ramping it up and attracting some new hotshot guards in time for Dez to become eligible to play.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3399
04-28-19 09:52 PM - Post#283972    

He tweeted he will announce his choice Monday, 8PM ET.
west coast fan

rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
04-30-19 04:21 PM - Post#284026    

No info last night. Maybe this evening?
Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
05-01-19 12:36 AM - Post#284044    

The internets thinks something’s up. Speculation ranging from he’s returning to Brown to VT lost interest just as he was about to announce.

Bet you one dollar he’s a Commodore.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
05-01-19 05:31 PM - Post#284089    

Internet getting impatient with lack of an announcement. Apparently - although I haven't confirmed this - he tweeted that he'd make the call Monday night. We're now nearly 48 hours past that with no word. Something seems up.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
05-02-19 08:43 AM - Post#284098    

On Saturday April 27th he tweeted, "It has been a long and grueling process, but the wait is finally over. I will be making my decision Monday, at 8:00 EST! Stay tuned."

On Thursday May 2nd, around 12:30 am, he tweeted, "Still alive and well!! Everything that glitters ain't gold. All apart of the process! Trust it!"

Sorry I don't have the links right for those tweets right now.

Here is something from last night's Tennessean paper.
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/ va...

- Desmond Cambridge, a high-scoring guard at Brown University, is considering a transfer to Vanderbilt or Virginia Tech. He is a former Ensworth player and brother of Vanderbilt women’s basketball player Jordyn Cambridge.

Desmond Cambridge tweeted that he would announce his choice on Monday, but he never publicly picked a school. It’s uncertain if Vanderbilt pulled his offer to transfer or if Cambridge is reconsidering his options. -
PennFan10
Postdoc
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05-02-19 06:47 PM - Post#284122    

Oops

https://twitter.com/dezcambridgejr/status /11240607...
HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
05-02-19 07:37 PM - Post#284124    

Sh*t happens...too many moving parts! A transfer with two years remaining (a 3 year scholarship) is a lot more complicated than one out of high school, where they’ve been following you for some time and have you plotted. Wishing Dez the best, but he’ll be fine.
palestra38
Professor
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05-03-19 06:01 AM - Post#284131    

This may be the reason with respect to VT:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/ un...
jst4245
Freshman
Posts 63
05-03-19 01:51 PM - Post#284149    

we are assuming here that he actually held offers from Stanford, VT, and Vandy in the first place? Two of those schools just hired new coaches and had not yet named their respective coaching staffs. someone will take him, but from the outside looking in (and considering there are 500 names in the transfer portal) it appears there isn't a ton of current definitive interest. also haven't heard of any schools bringing him on campus for an "official" visit which is very telling in itself. hopefully he can get it sorted out
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
05-03-19 02:15 PM - Post#284151    

Why on earth would he have tweeted out that he was deciding on Monday then?
Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
05-03-19 10:23 PM - Post#284176    

I too am gleaning that this wasn’t necessarily real. Which is utterly confounding.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
05-04-19 02:23 AM - Post#284180    

Come on! They were probably real at some point, but with too many moving parts (coaches, time of year, etc.) — the challenges of being a transfer. It’ll work itself out.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
05-06-19 10:32 PM - Post#284236    

http://nevadasportsnet.com/sports/mens-basketbal l/...

- Commitments: SF Eric Parrish (6-6/195, three stars, No. 7 JuCo product); PG/SG Kane Milling (6-4/165, unrated); PF Zane Meeks (6-9/210, three stars)

Known official visitors: Eric Parrish (Oct. 13); Kuany Kuany (April 27); Zane Meeks (May 4); Desmond Cambridge (May 5)

Remaining scholarships: Three (at minimum; number could rise depending on situation of Lindsey Drew, Jordan Brown and Shamiel Stevenson) -

- Current hot target
Desmond Cambridge

In short: The transfer from Brown, visiting right now, was the Ivy League Rookie of the Year in 2017-18 before averaging 15.7 points (fourth in the Ivy league), 3.8 rebounds, 1.7 blocks and 1.0 steals per game as a sophomore. A 6-foot-4, 180 pound guard with roots in Nashville and New Jersey, Cambridge is a high-volume shooting, hitting 37.2 percent of his shots as a sophomore, including 31.8 percent from three (on 8.0 attempts per game). He was a little more accurate as a freshman, posting marks of 40.1 and 33.5 percent, respectively. Cambridge would have to sit out the 2019-20 season under NCAA transfer rules and would have two years of eligibility remaining. He originally had a final three of Vanderbilt, Stanford and Virginia Tech before eliminating Stanford. He was an unranked prospect coming out of high school. -


internetter
Postdoc
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05-07-19 02:28 PM - Post#284260    

Check out @IvyHoopsOnline’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/IvyHoopsOnline/status /11258220...
west coast fan

HGA
Sophomore
Posts 106
05-07-19 02:39 PM - Post#284261    

All the best to Dez!
Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
05-07-19 06:18 PM - Post#284277    

As I was when Leland King went to Nevada, I’m similarly ambivalent about this move for Cambridge.

I hate that it’s a degree from Nevada. I like that it’s a team that was a top 30ish team the past two seasons. I don’t like that they’ll suck next year returning virtually nobody and won’t likely be a top 100 team next year. I like that given that Dez will very likely have room to play.

At the end of the day, a Mountain West conference team isn’t going to help Cambridge get NBA looks. If anything he was a more interesting prospect at Brown. I’d hoped for more for him.

Let’s hope he fits there and gets a chance to play, and that the year off helps him mature.

LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3044
05-13-19 08:30 AM - Post#284429    

http://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/nevada -l...

- “Coach (Steve) Alford and the staff, they were really open about everything," Cambridge said. "The culture here is all about family and everything is here to get me to the next level. And they have connections that can go a long way. I just love this place.” -

- Since he's a transfer, Cambridge must redshirt next season and will have two years of eligibility at Nevada starting in 2020-21. He originally trimmed his list of potential destinations to Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech and Stanford in late April before re-opening his recruitment. That's when Nevada's new staff reached out.

“It was really just out of the blue," Cambridge said. "I didn’t really know anybody. The original coaching staff had made connections when I first went in the transfer portal. I went down to my final three and reopened it and then (Nevada assistant) Coach (Kory) Barnett and the new coaching staff reached back out.” -

- “I’m just a pure elite scorer," Cambridge said. "I think I can transfer that easily to here and I did play against San Diego State and I had a really good game and that should be enough for the fans to know. During the (redshirt) year, I plan on working on my shot selection and knowing what good shots are and what bad shots are, and I want to improve my overall game making reads and making plays for other people. -

- Cambridge, originally from Tennessee, was an unranked player coming out of high school before lifting his profile at Brown. He's hopeful his younger brother, Devan, a 6-foot-6 guard who played last season for Hillcrest Prep in Phoenix will join him at Nevada at some point. The younger Cambridge averaged 13 points, 6.5 rebounds, 2.3 blocks, 2.0 assists and 1.7 steals per game for Hillcrest, a national-level program teeming with high-major players. He shot 49 percent from the field, including 38 percent from three.

“My brother is the most athletic dude in the country," Cambridge said. "I’ll definitely try and get him up here. He may have to go through another channel, maybe JuCo route, but I definitely want to get him up here.” -
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 4894
05-13-19 02:53 PM - Post#284461    

Think he needs to learn how to score off the dribble before he could be called an “elite” scorer.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
05-13-19 03:34 PM - Post#284462    

He was an elite talent for the Ivies---not an elite scorer nor an elite defender. He can use a year to work on his game. But any Ivy would have liked to have had him.
weinhauers_ghost
Postdoc
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05-13-19 04:16 PM - Post#284465    

  • palestra38 Said:
He was an elite talent for the Ivies---not an elite scorer nor an elite defender. He can use a year to work on his game. But any Ivy would have liked to have had him.



Cambridge had a level of athleticism that made him a tough matchup for most Ivy guards. As p38 so aptly put it, his scoring and defense weren't quite at the same level.
Go Green
PhD Student
Posts 1124
05-13-19 07:41 PM - Post#284470    

  • palestra38 Said:
But any Ivy would have liked to have had him.



Yes, indeed.

And I respectfully disagree with those who insist that the same is true for Andreas Jackson and Guillen Smith.
Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
05-13-19 09:19 PM - Post#284473    

His game is spectacular and limited. He couldn’t score off the bounce - just did not have that rhythm. Didn’t finish at the rim unless it was an alley-oop. What Ivy teams figured out was to overplay him because he was never going to take you to the hole so overplay and guard against the pull-up, which he did well. He is at his core an athletic jump shooter with a high release (for any conference), meaning he could get his shot off against anybody. But that same high release had enough unstable moving parts to make him a rhythm shooter who was either ridiculously on or ridiculously off. I think he is a plus athlete in Division 1 basketball with genuine talent, but he will only be a difference maker for a top 50 program if he can translate that athleticism into confidence getting inside.

He is not a great positional defender. But his shot blocking was absolutely spectacular. The best I’ve seen for an Ivy guard.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

james
Masters Student
Posts 779
05-15-19 11:58 AM - Post#284528    

that’s a tough trade. Brown to Nevada? That kid has been broken since Oni dunked on him.
Hope he figures it out bc he’s young but who transfers out of the Ivy League to go midmajor. Ouch
SRP
Postdoc
Posts 4894
05-15-19 01:17 PM - Post#284540    

Bruno gives an excellent description of Cambridge’s game. When his energy and leaping ability found the rhythm of the game he could be spectacular at both ends. And if you didn’t crowd him he was more likely to get rolling. But that does not match his apparent self-perception as an elite scorer.
james
Masters Student
Posts 779
05-15-19 08:14 PM - Post#284562    

Miye oni broke his will.
welcometothejungle
Masters Student
Posts 788
11-26-20 05:13 PM - Post#317336    

Desmond Cambridge started and scored 18 points today in Nevada's win over Nebraska on 7/17 shooting (2/11 from 3). He had a stretch where he scored 13 points in a row for Nevada, including this highlight dunk off of a backdoor cut

https://twitter.com/NevadaHoops/status/13 320459645...


Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
11-27-20 08:49 AM - Post#317345    

It was classic Cambridge. Missed his first three. Then took over with 7-8. Then missed his last seven. But his stretch in the first half (which started with the dunk) was a sight.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

palestra38
Professor
Posts 32685
11-28-20 08:30 AM - Post#317379    

By next year, Ivy expats will have a major impact with a large number of mid-majors and majors. The decision not to play will result in an almost total rebuild for this conference. Good to see them playing well, though
Bruno
PhD Student
Posts 1414
11-28-20 10:42 AM - Post#317382    

I’m not so sure. I have a feeling the season will be cancelled for all teams within a month, if not sooner. Leaving the Ivy looking smarter than the others.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3988
11-28-20 12:43 PM - Post#317386    

There is a Cambridge playing for Auburn. Younger brother?
welcometothejungle
Masters Student
Posts 788
11-28-20 01:43 PM - Post#317389    

Yep, younger brother Devan is a sophomore at Auburn
Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3988
11-28-20 03:54 PM - Post#317392    

Starting.



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