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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147 
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09-30-19 04:12 PM - Post#288096
Here is the predicted finish for the PL from Blue Ribbbon, which is the best and most comprehensive college basketball publication by far: 1 Colgate 2 Bucknell 3 American 4 Boston U 5 Lehigh 6 Loyola 7 Navy 8 Army 9 Holy Cross 10 Lafayette All-PL: Ivanauskas, Burns (CU), Rayman, Kostecka (CU) (LOY), and Nelson (AU) ROY: Santi Aldama, Loyola's 6-11 Spanish center - - - - - Blue Ribbon is a very good source of info, although I was disappointed with a few errors and omissions in the PL section, written by HoopTime. I think his rankings generally make sense, although I think he overrates Navy and Holy Cross, while underrating Army and Lafayette.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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09-30-19 04:17 PM - Post#288097
Lindy's: 1 Colgate 2 Bucknell 3 American 4 Boston U 5 Lehigh 6 Army 7 Loyola 8 Lafayette 9 Holy Cross 10 Navy All-PL (1st team): Burns, Nelson, Kostecka, Ivanauskas, Mahoney All-PL (2nd team): J. Cohen (LU), T. Funk (Army), J. Jaworski (LC), B. Moore (BU), W. Rayman (CU) ROY: D. Lowder, HC PG
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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09-30-19 04:25 PM - Post#288098
Athlon: (not well researched at all) 1 Colgate 2 Bucknell 3 American 4 Lehigh 5 Army 6 Lafayette 7 Loyola 8 Boston U 9 Navy 10 Holy Cross Same 1st and 2nd teams as Lindy's, except Athlon has Army's Matt Wilson on the 2nd team ahead of Bruce Moore. If the Bison do indeed finish 2nd in the league, it's hard to believe they won't have someone make the 2nd team. At this point, however, it's not clear who it would be. I think four have a chance to make 3rd team or better (although clearly not all of them will): Moore, Toomer, Sotos, Meeks. As for Athlon's predicted finish, I think it is absurd to have Boston U at the #8 spot. I wish I could get a bet down with the author of the piece. Also Loyola should do better than 7th imo.
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370 
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09-30-19 04:43 PM - Post#288099
I think that we all agree that Colgate is the team to beat. It just remains to be seen how they will handle the pressure of trying to repeat in combination with any other adversity that they might face: injuries, poor grades, the unexpected scandal, etc. You never know what will happen with a bunch of 18-22 year olds. GO BISON!
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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09-30-19 04:45 PM - Post#288100
Average finish of the three above predictions: 1.0 Colgate 2.0 Bucknell 3.0 American 4.7 Lehigh 5.3 Boston 6.3 Army 6.7 Loyola 8.0 Lafayette 8.7 Navy 9.3 Holy Cross I have a feeling that Loyola didn't get full credit for the possible contributions of its freshman class. And Boston U may not have received full credit for the value of Walter Whyte, who should be healthy after missing all of last year. Hopefully that will be offset by Joe Jones' coaching.
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jkrun80 Postdoc Posts 3305 |
10-01-19 08:06 AM - Post#288106
Same 1st and 2nd teams as Lindy's, except Athlon has Army's Matt Wilson on the 2nd team ahead of Bruce Moore. If the Bison do indeed finish 2nd in the league, it's hard to believe they won't have someone make the 2nd team. At this point, however, it's not clear who it would be. I think four have a chance to make 3rd team or better (although clearly not all of them will): Moore, Toomer, Sotos, Meeks. I think Andrew Funk has a shot at a 2nd or 3rd team spot. He may be our 2nd or 3rd (or 1st) scoring option if he's shooting well. |
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HuskyColonial PhD Student Posts 1976 |
10-01-19 11:55 AM - Post#288112
I still contend Toomer is going to BLOW UP this year. In many ways this could be his team. I think he has that kind of talent. |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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10-01-19 05:31 PM - Post#288119
I still contend Toomer is going to BLOW UP this year. In many ways this could be his team. I think he has that kind of talent. Husky, I hope that you are right. Toomer seems to have the talent to do so. My only concern is fouls. Both he and Moore seem to get into foul trouble a lot. If both of them can stay on the floor, the sky is the limit.
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-01-19 05:46 PM - Post#288120
I still contend Toomer is going to BLOW UP this year. In many ways this could be his team. I think he has that kind of talent. Husky, I hope that you are right. Toomer seems to have the talent to do so. My only concern is fouls. Both he and Moore seem to get into foul trouble a lot. If both of them can stay on the floor, the sky is the limit. That's a good observation. Moore last year averaged 5.0 fouls per 40 minutes, while Toomer averaged 5.6 per 40 (down from 6.6 the previous season). One thing to keep in mind, however, is that those two almost always drew the toughest defensive assignments. Bruce usually guarded the best forward on the floor, while Avi usually was assigned to the toughest guard. Also both were versatile on defense, with Bruce taking on centers, PF's, and also quick SF's, while Avi might guard a 6-7 SF or a 5-11 PG. BTW, the other spot where fouls may be an issue is at center. Newman last year averaged 7.6 fouls per 40 minutes. That very high foul rate didn't matter much when he was a backup - but it will have to improve if he is expected to play 20+ mpg. Given that Timmerman currently weighs in at 294 pounds, there may not be many options to guard opposing centers who are particularly tall. Against many centers, you may see Moore or Rhodes or Spear being called upon to do the defensive job when Newman is not in.
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MrPhillie Postdoc Posts 2757 
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10-01-19 06:17 PM - Post#288121
Can’t argue with most of the predictions, truthfully. Some freshman classes will have a say in this as well (hopefully a huge boost from Bucknell’s.) Colgate obviously has the talent and experience to be a safe pick as #1. As far as Bucknell players, to me, Sotos has the best shot as a 2nd Team selection. He is the most proven in all areas. |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203 
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10-20-19 05:17 PM - Post#288810
KenPom beginning of season ranking: 115. Colgate 142. Bucknell 186. Loyola 199. American 200. Boston University 225. Army 227. Lehigh 249. Lafayette 308. Holy Cross 310. Navy |
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bison63 Postdoc Posts 3857 |
10-20-19 05:31 PM - Post#288811
By virtue of their dance performance, and the fact that they are all back, CU should crack the top hundred pretty quickly. |
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bisonmania Masters Student Posts 920 |
10-20-19 06:12 PM - Post#288812
I think that’s a bit low for Holy Cross. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-20-19 06:26 PM - Post#288813
I think that’s a bit low for Holy Cross. I tend to agree. But don't forget that they graduated their top player by far (Jehyve Floyd) and another who saw top five minutes (Benzan). And then two of their top three returnees (Grandison and Caleb Green) transferred out. In total they only return 35% of the total minutes played from last year. The biggest wild card is the departure of Carmody and the addition of new coach Brett Nelson, which I think will be an improvement. Also they have added a couple of promising freshman guards.
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548 
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10-22-19 12:25 PM - Post#288909
CBS writer Matt Norlander ranks all teams 1-353 https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/... 102. Colgate 134. American 149. Bucknell 172. Boston 197. Lehigh 212. Navy 229. Loyola 272. Lafayette 272. Army 338. Holy Cross |
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Bison89 Professor Posts 5370
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10-22-19 01:39 PM - Post#288919
It is shaping up to be a very competitive PL this year. 'Gate is the team to beat, but Bucknell and American are going to make them earn it. On the other hand, HC is not feeling the love. With a new coach looking to make an impression, I would be surprised to see them finish last. #6 or #7 is my prediction.
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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10-22-19 01:51 PM - Post#288921
272. Army Typo, Army is 277 |
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BisonRoadWarrior Professor Posts 5203
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10-24-19 03:21 PM - Post#288996
Andy Katz has Colgate as one of "11 college basketball teams we're not talking about enough": "5. Colgate: The Raiders are the favorite to win the Patriot League again and have the possible preseason player of the year in Rapolas Ivanauskas. Colgate plays at Syracuse, Clemson and Auburn. Win one game and Colgate will get noticed. Win two and the Raiders may find themselves ranked." https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/a rticle/2... Amusing that he calls Ivanauskas a possible league preseason player of the year well in a story posted well after Sa'eed Nelson got the honor instead. |
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10-24-19 07:03 PM - Post#289014
Amusing that he calls Ivanauskas a possible league preseason player of the year well in a story posted well after Sa'eed Nelson got the honor instead. I give Andy a pass. He's got a lot of B1G duties these days and the fact that he still tries to keep up with mid-majors argues for him in itself. |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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10-25-19 11:00 AM - Post#289067
Patriot League Preview from Three-Man-Weave: https://www.three-man-weave.com/3mw/patriot-previe... |
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Bucknellbisonfan21 Masters Student Posts 548
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10-30-19 10:31 AM - Post#289275
League preview from CBB Central: https://cbbcentral.com/2019/10/29/32x32-2019 -20-pa... |
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Scotty-14 Sophomore Posts 156 |
10-30-19 07:11 PM - Post#289310
That is laughable that Loyola would be picked ahead of us. Very naive take from my point of view. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-30-19 08:49 PM - Post#289312
They may not finish ahead of the Bison, but I’m not sure that it is impossible. It appears they could have one of the top freshman classes in PL history, headed by the two Spaniards. And they have everyone back from a team that was playing fairly well near the end of the season. If Saltana turns out to be the five star recruit some think he is, then Loyola could be quite good. Of course it could also turn out that they have been overhyped. . We won’t know about that for a couple of months. I am picking them to tie for fourth with Boston U, but I acknowledge that could be too low.
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Scotty-14 Sophomore Posts 156 |
10-31-19 01:50 PM - Post#289355
Understandable. It is my view, however, that if Aldama was truly a P5 Recruit that is where he would be. After all, P5 have much greater resources to find someone like Aldama from a major basketball country like Spain. |
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Bison137 Professor Posts 16147
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10-31-19 02:01 PM - Post#289357
Understandable. It is my view, however, that if Aldama was truly a P5 Recruit that is where he would be. After all, P5 have much greater resources to find someone like Aldama from a major basketball country like Spain. Yes, they clearly have better overall resources. But in this case, the Loyola assistant who brought in both of the Spaniards coached both of them for Spain's junior national team a couple of years ago and is friends with Aldama's father. That could skew things when trying to recruit an 18-year old who has never before left his home country. Only time will tell.
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Old Bison Masters Student Posts 619 |
10-31-19 07:48 PM - Post#289390
137...That is 100% correct. Recruiting is more relationship based then resource based. Also, it is at its core a very dicey venture. Bucknell has been extraordinarily “lucky†in the cases of Sestina, Muscala, Brown, Fouland, Zach etc. No matter how much of a basketball guy you are it’s a very difficult proposition to correctly project. For everyone mentioned above I could counter name someone who matriculated via scholarship with the opposite results. It’s not for the faint hearted I can tell you that. The difference in Loyola last year was HOW they competed last year as opposed to WHO they would competed with. Under Tubby’s son they had one foot in the charter bus when adversity hit. They were the exact opposite last year and we sneaked by them both games last year. Kostecka is really bouncy and was an absolute bison killer. He’s back and the new big will be a factor in PL play. Loyola will not be an easy out this year if I’m not totally mistaken. Again if I’m not mistaken, we will be offensively challenged this year. The new kid Rhodes does alot of the little things right in the one time I saw him play. Again, I don’t expect anyone to be impressed with his transition from HS to D1 offensively but I’m happy to have him for the long haul. Like I said however, it’s dicey...your guess is as good as mine. Could be a year that requires a good reserve of patience |
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