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jmverlin Junior Posts 218 |
10-14-19 01:46 PM - Post#288551
Who's going to be there Saturday? I believe I'll be dragging my fiancée down to get a look at the Quakers. If anybody has anything particular they'd like me to look for, let me know. - JV |
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SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1154 |
10-14-19 01:55 PM - Post#288552
I'll be there and, of course, looking to see how recovered Ryan and Michael look. Also interested in seeing Jordan Dingle, especially if he is to be the starting point guard, and MLL, our big man hope for the future after AJ graduates. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8220 
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10-14-19 03:06 PM - Post#288554
I’m going to try and make it there. Like most of us, I’ll be keying on how Wang & Betley look. |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618 
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10-14-19 05:36 PM - Post#288558
Definitely would like to hear how injured folks look - Betley and Wang but also Dingle. Beyond that would love to hear: 1) If Eddie Scott and Jarrod Simmons made any progress as I think we’ll need their contributions this year to be successful. 2) If any of the freshman stand out and look ready to provide any quality minutes. Enjoy all! |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8220
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10-14-19 06:09 PM - Post#288559
I have learned the hard way the R&B scrimmage can have false indications as it relates to the freshmen. Last year, for instance, Wang looked great (true until he got hurt) and Washington looked terrible (he ended up starting.) Prediction: Eddie Scott will light it up, FWIW. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3584 |
10-14-19 06:11 PM - Post#288560
I doubt Dingle will play Saturday. Don’t think he is practicing yet. |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4358 |
10-15-19 05:46 AM - Post#288573
I think Michael Wang could sit this one out as well. What’s the upside of having him play? I’d be focused on his health for the opener. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8220
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10-15-19 08:47 AM - Post#288575
If Wang is not 100% i’d be fine with holding him up as long as it takes, even if that means he doesn’t play until the Wooden games. I think MLL is the key freshman to watch. He is the most likely to get serious minutes this season if he’s ready. Beyond that, it would be nice to see if the young guards can play D, but we will likely not see much of that on Saturday. |
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QHoops Senior Posts 368 |
10-15-19 09:36 AM - Post#288578
Any word if this is finally the year when the R&B is available for streaming? |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8220
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10-15-19 10:16 AM - Post#288581
No mention of it on the website or the coaches letter. So I assume no. |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3050 |
10-16-19 11:26 AM - Post#288618
It's not listed on Saturday's ESPN+ schedule, as well. Some years, I think they said they couldn't broadcast the event since they were stretched thin covering other events. Since the only games on campus on Saturday are women's soccer at 2 pm and men's soccer at 5 pm, I would think they should have enough equipment to broadcast the scrimmages between 11 am and 1 pm. Also, I see that the women's team has its opening game at home against Siena during Homecoming on November 9th. The game starts at 12 pm, while the football game against Cornell starts at 1:30 pm. Couldn't the women's game be moved to 11, so people could watch both games? |
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Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
10-16-19 12:10 PM - Post#288620
who on earth has interest and time to devote 5.5 hours to women's bb and men's football? not very competitive men's football at that! they did you a favor. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3584 |
10-16-19 04:29 PM - Post#288641
I am not sure the coaches want the scrimmage broadcast. Donahue is pretty old school. |
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LyleGold PhD Student Posts 1712 |
10-19-19 03:07 PM - Post#288790
Sorry you didn't make it, Steve. It was good being back in the old place, but it's tough to take very much from the scrimmage. Dingle didn't play, but Wang and Betley both put in significant minutes. Michael definitely looks more ready than Ryan. He ran well, looked smooth on a baseline three pointer, and stepped into a pass for a thunderous baseline drive-dunk. Ryan seemed rusty and didn't appear to be playing all that hard. Bryce hit at least 3 threes that I can remember, but freshman Jonah Charles had four point plays on consecutive possessions! The most impressive freshman was Lucas Monroe from that great Abington team. He's bigger than I expected - same height as Eddie Scott with a broader frame - and has a pretty advanced game for a rookie. AJ showed a very soft touch on his jump hook around the rim and looks primed for a great senior season. Soph Griffin Ryan has a sharp shooting touch, but I wonder if he'll be able to get his shot off against a real defense. Oh, and how could I forget Mark Jackson who had an entire career in a single scrimmage? A dozen or so points and a few rebounds over AJ, but I doubt we'll see any meaningful minutes from his this year. By the way, Antonio Woods was sitting in the stands with a ball in his hands looking like he wished he had another year of eligibility. He's not the only one who feels that way. |
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SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1154 |
10-19-19 05:51 PM - Post#288791
Lyle - I'd also note that Eddie Scott also hit a couple or three 3s himself and had one really nice drive to the basket where he went up very strong. He also had a couple of steals on defense. You might also want to note that in addition to Jordan Dingle not playing, neither did freshman Max Martz who was wearing a boot. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8220
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10-19-19 05:54 PM - Post#288792
Thanks for this rundown. Wanted to get there but some other things took priority. How did Eddie Scott and Jarrod look? Also was Martz effective? |
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LyleGold PhD Student Posts 1712 |
10-19-19 06:47 PM - Post#288794
You're right, Steve. In fact, while I was walking across the South St. Bridge after the scrimmage, Palestra38 called me from his lakeside retreat in the Berkshires for an update. One of my first comments was that Eddie Scott looks like he can play, to which he replied,"He's always looked like it." Maybe he'll get a chance to show it consistently this year. I also failed to comment on Dev Goodman who already has his lightning quick drive geared up. I can't believe he's already a senior since he only has one year of major minutes under his belt. I see real competition for playing time in the backcourt with the young guys pushing the veterans. That's a great situation to have. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3584 |
10-19-19 07:53 PM - Post#288796
Ryan was 0-6 from 3 Wang was 2-3 Eddie Scott was 4-9 Bryce was 3-8 Jonah Charles was 4-8 OVerall we shot 28% from 3 |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1896 |
10-21-19 01:18 AM - Post#288826
Any info on Max Lorca-Lloyd? Good to hear that Charles could be a shooter. I hope Betley's recovery continues. It's a shame - he looked so sharp at the start of last season in his short action before he got hurt. He really appeared in full command of his game. Hope it all comes back this season! |
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pennhoops Postdoc Posts 2470 |
10-21-19 09:31 AM - Post#288830
josh verlin was there and posted some photos on twitter. i believe he has a recap but unfortunately i haven't got a link |
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besnoah Masters Student Posts 803 |
10-21-19 08:16 PM - Post#288877
I don't think Josh has posted the recap yet, but I'm hopeful he'll share it here when it's up. I was at the first half of the scrimmage and I had two thoughts: 1. I don't think Bryce Washington is getting enough hype. 2. To echo Lyle, Lucas Monroe looked like he could be a contributor/get minutes this year. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3584 |
10-21-19 10:20 PM - Post#288882
I said yesterday Bryce is set to take the Antonio Woods role with much better offense. That’s all Ivy material if it happens. I think Bryce is a huge key to this team. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1896 |
10-22-19 03:08 AM - Post#288888
From the video of that one play, Eddie Scott looked smooth, explosive, and in control. His box score also looked great. Is he deserving of more attention? |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12530 |
11-06-19 02:07 AM - Post#290000
Can someone help me understand why the ref who legitimately cost us 2 games last year and maybe 3, was invited to work the Red and Blue scrimmage? Was that something we chose to try and get in his good graces? Just the site of Tim Kelly made my blood start to boil. It took everything I had not to remind him how much he owes us a few and my little guy is still mad I didn't. He spotted that face the second we walked in. If it was a purposeful decision to invite him, it was a great idea, but I'm guessing he was assigned. For the record, I did not see any brutal calls this time like we saw vs Monmouth, Princeton and up at the tourney. The league has to be able to do better than this guy. |
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Jeff2sf Postdoc Posts 4466 |
11-06-19 09:46 AM - Post#290026
Q, it's just a ref. My recommendation is to not know their faces or names. I just read what you said above30 seconds ago and I can't remember the ref's name. No one is out to screw us. My advice is to coach your little guy in flag football and have some teenage refs basically make a hash of the rule book. Then you'll be way more zen. People are doing their best, your blood pressure will be so much lower if you just stop caring. Besides, none of those calls were as egregious as that bum, John Koharski, who called the foul on AJ last night. He will get his. Oh yeah, he will get his. |
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LyleGold PhD Student Posts 1712 |
11-06-19 11:51 AM - Post#290052
Besides, none of those calls were as egregious as that bum, John Koharski, who called the foul on AJ last night. He will get his. Oh yeah, he will get his. That was the worst of them all, but there were many others like the reversal of the out of bounds call for "simultaneous possession". There was plenty of home cooking last night, but I give Wimp Sanderson credit for pointing it out. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12530 |
11-06-19 06:08 PM - Post#290122
Listen, there is no doubt that I focus way too much on the refs, but this guy quite literally had a role in changing our season, it happened MULTIPLE times, and it extended to past seasons too. The question of whether we have any say in who calls our games is a real one. I'm not insinuating that Tim Kelly is out to get us, but I am saying that he's horrific at his job and there should be some recourse to the major effect he has had over the past few years. I am far from the only one who feels this way about him. Nothing bothers me more than officials changing the outcomes of games. It has been fun to argue on twitter with the Bama fans that inexplicably think they are the ones who get the short end of the refereeing stick. It seems they can't get past the goaltending call. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1896 |
11-06-19 07:22 PM - Post#290140
The goaltending call was interesting. As to whether the ball was over the cylinder, I believe it was over the cylinder, but less than 50%. I don't know what that means in terms of the rules. The part that seemed to have Sanderson convinced it was goaltending was that the player's hand actually touched the rim and even went into the basket a bit before the ball. Again, I don't know the rules well enough to interpret that. |
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LyleGold PhD Student Posts 1712 |
11-06-19 09:51 PM - Post#290171
The rule is quite clear. If ANY PART of the ball is over ANY PART of the cylinder, it may not be touched. The straight on camera angle (as if you were watching from the top of the key) was the determining shot. The one they kept showing from behind the basket through the backboard was inconclusive. The refs’ original call and the replay decision were both right. |
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