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bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-10-19 08:36 PM - Post#290543 I understand that women's basketball is sometimes challenging to watch based on the style of play but if a Tiger fan wants to watch unbelievably sound fundamental BB, watch the 3rd qtr of today's game on ESPN+. The fundamentals utilized in playing team defensive was off the charts. Tigers got off to a very slow start, 4-14 and only up by 2 at half time but slammed the door shut again in the 3rd qtr similar to Rider. GW and Rider are good not great teams but each one has a good win against Penn State and Villanova. Tigers have a 29 pt win differential. Bella has averaged playing 29 minutes a game with a 18pt-10 rebound average although teams are going all out to stop her. Tigers have three incredibly challenging games in a row starting at Seton Hall, traditional power team in Big East and finish with Iowan at Iowa, final 8 team last year with returning players. If the Tigers win 1 out of 3, it will be successful but the Tigers have talent. Number 3 and 7 players are on the bench with injuries and probably will not be available. Mitch might want to take a look at switching defense being employed by women.
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	11-11-19 09:19 AM - Post#290567 GW's coach, Jen Rizzotti, had a pretty good summary of the Princeton effort. https://www.gwhatchet.com/2019/11/11/princeton- tro... - â€œTheir guys came out with a killer mentality,â€ Rizzotti said. â€œAnd you could tell even though I tried to call two timeouts to staunch the bleeding, it was their level of intensity, defensively, went up, their toughness on offense went up, and we werenâ€™t able to match that.â€ -
Bryan Junior Posts 231	11-11-19 12:20 PM - Post#290583 Bradley, are #3 and #7 players Meyers and Boyer?
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	11-11-19 01:05 PM - Post#290592 There are 16 players on the roster, 11 saw action in yesterday's game and 5 were on the bench in sweatsuits. By process of elimination, I'm guessing the 5 not in action would be Meyers, Boyer, Nicole Young, Plank and Emsbo. Boyer played in part of the Rider game and the others did not play in either game. Your guesses on #3 and 7 are probably correct.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-11-19 03:27 PM - Post#290622 Agree but I forgot 6â€™3â€ Emsbo - back up to Bella - big body. Sister had a great freshmen year at Yale.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-15-19 08:41 PM - Post#291159 Bella is out tonight -- OUCH!
TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1888	11-15-19 10:00 PM - Post#291169 Tiger women up 3 after 3 quarters without Bella.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-15-19 10:39 PM - Post#291171 Simply a phenomenal win without Bella. Down by 10 pts in first half and in danger of getting blown out as Seton Hall made several 3 pt shots in a row. As Seton Hall announcers stated -- it was a "great basketball game". Tigers were fortunate that one of the top two SH players got injured in the 1st quarter. Tigers had a 9 pt lead and almost blew it but stayed together. It would have been a lot easier with Bella but it might help the women Tigers in the long run. Bella was apparently injured in the GW game. Hopefully, there are two teams in the NCAAW Tournament this year and Princeton and Penn or someone else does not have to rely on IvyMadness. This win should help the Tigers. At this time, women play team ball unlike the men.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-15-19 11:01 PM - Post#291172 After the poor performance against Kentucky last year, Littlefield has taken a big step forward this year. After a very strong game against GW, her line tonight was 19 pts, 6 rebounds and 6 assists. Freshmen Mitchell helped fill in as a back to Bauer who was the sub for Bella. It appears that Coach Berube is a good game coach. Now, the Tigers really need Bella to get healthy -- did not hear what was the injury.
Tiger84 Senior Posts 379	11-16-19 01:23 AM - Post#291176 Sounds like Bella and a GW player banged knees last Sunday. Note that she was not on crutches and appeared to be walking normally. Hopefully just a nasty bruise and sheâ€™s back soon.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-16-19 06:30 PM - Post#291225 Bella appeared to be walking around fine last Wednesday at the men's game so it was surprising that she did not play. Maybe, she nicked it up during a practice but it is a concern especially with the next two games on the schedule. IL women are 16-9 non=conference including several big wins including Harvard over perennial power Cal. 7 of the 8 teams are 500 or better. Good performance by the league in non-conference will obviously help the cause for a 2 bid league so a team does not have to rely on IvyMadness alone. Tomorrow's game against FGU may be as difficult as playing against Iowa which is hard to believe. FGU is really good and an upper class dominant team with several special players especially the PG Wingate. At least, the game is at home and FGU does not have a lot of height but they can definitely rebound. Bella is absolutely needed for this game and certainly Iowa which has considerable height. With the win against Seton Hall, they are at least playing with house money. If somehow, they could win one of these two games, they will have positioned themselves coming off a very challenging schedule with three road games of the five.
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	11-16-19 08:48 PM - Post#291234 A really impressive win last night. Mel Greenberg wrote that Alarie suffered a hyper-extended knee during the GW game. He did not mention when she would return. FGCU will be another challenging game. They were the top rated team in the ASUN. Banghart seemed to want to challenge her team for the Ivy League with a tough non-conference schedule. Last year's schedule was so strong that Princeton was included in the last group of teams for an at-large bid if they did not win the Ivy Tournament.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-17-19 02:14 PM - Post#291284 Bella is playing today. Scored the first 7 points for the Tigers but was pulled after 5 minutes to get a rest. Her shot blocking is definitely needed today. Has been a defensive struggle so far.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-17-19 02:23 PM - Post#291286 Good start to 1st qtr - bad finish. Down 17-16. FGU quicker and ferocious but a ball game so far.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-17-19 03:03 PM - Post#291289 Bella reactivated knee injury - did not play for the remainder of the second quarter. Tigers are up by 10 thanks to great defense and Littlefield stepping up offensively when Bella is not in the game. This game is far from over as it appears that Bella will not play in the 2nd half.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-17-19 03:53 PM - Post#291292 FGU had 19 straight regular season wins prior to today's game. Alarie plays limited minutes with none in the second half. Littlefied gets injured in the 3rd qtr yet the Tigers dominant the entire second half with a 14 pt margin after leading by 19 pts. Shutdown defense against a high scoring team. Coach Berube seems to have these players focused and composed. Very impressive!!! Now off to Iowa probably w/o Allarie and Littlefied. They need to get healthy.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-18-19 10:00 AM - Post#291333 Alarie played only 11 minutes with 7pts/2rb/2blocks and left the game with Tigers up by 4pts. Littlefield played 25 minutes before re-aggravating lower leg injury middle of 3rd qtr with 18pts/5rb/3assists with a 15pt lead. Without the two of them, remaining Tigers increased/held the lead. Why? - Combination of talent/depth and good coaching or perhaps some luck as FGU was ranked as #5 in mid-major prior to the game wit Tigers as #9. Does Coach Berube rest both of them for the next two games which would probably mean 1 win and 1 loss? Concern is that these injuries appear to be easy to re-aggravate. With both of them, the Tigers have an opportunity to win the Iowa game and get some recognition in the National Polls.
JadwinGeorge Senior Posts 357	11-18-19 10:10 AM - Post#291334 Last week I watched UNC bomb Navy on ACC Network. Texted congrats to Coach B who replied "Thanks....my Tigers are loaded!" She left the cupboard stocked, for sure. That said, Berube has more than impressed with the way she has managed the transition. The lady is a winner who obviously gets everything her players have to give. Let's hope the Tigers don't have to play many games without Alarie and/or Littlefield, two locks for Ivy First Team status.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-19-19 10:50 PM - Post#291662 JadwinGeorge Said: Last week I watched UNC bomb Navy on ACC Network. Texted congrats to Coach B who replied "Thanks....my Tigers are loaded!" She left the cupboard stocked, for sure. That said, Berube has more than impressed with the way she has managed the transition. The lady is a winner who obviously gets everything her players have to give. Let's hope the Tigers don't have to play many games without Alarie and/or Littlefield, two locks for Ivy First Team status. Courtney did an outstanding job of recruiting quality players and she is responsible for building a very strong program. Coach Berube has done an outstanding job so far building on the foundation by adding two additional elements - taking defense to another height as well as connecting with her players. On media day, you could tell the relationship that Carla has built with Bella and Littlefield. Littlefield's game has risen to another level and she now has two IL POW awards under her belt. She had a horrible game at the NCAA game against Kentucky last year but she has gotten quicker and even more tenacious. Tigers are now ranked #33 in the country in the Coaches Poll and have moved up to #5 mid-majors. Penn has now also moved up to #12 from #17 in the mid-major poll. Tomorrow night will probably pose insurmountable problems if Bella and Carlie can not play. For this game, they probably need both but at this point and time, who knows. Iowa graduated a great Center last year but they are very tough to beat at the Carver-Hawkeye arena and they have size and talent including a Pan Am teammate of Bella. Tiger's 4 prior opponents now have a 10-1 record against all other teams other than the Tigers with several wins over quality opponents.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-20-19 09:30 PM - Post#291827 Tigers women are up by 10 a HT, 37-27. Carlie played only a few minutes although the bench has responded. Bella has 14pts, 3 rbs, 3 assists and 4 blocks and she is not on all cylinders. 2nd half will be tough with Littlefield.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-20-19 09:53 PM - Post#291832 Tough 3rd qtr for Tigers as they were outscored by 8, 18 to 10. Littlefield did return but is not 100%. Going to be very challenging to hold onto the lead. May not happen tonight.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-20-19 10:24 PM - Post#291839 Tigers lose by 1 pt and they had the final shot. Had every opportunity to win but the offense did not perform in the 2nd half but it shows that they can play with a big time programs on the road. Bella and Carlie now need to get healthy and fortunately they have only 1 game within the next 11 days. Would have been crazy good if they had beaten Seton Hall, FGU and Iowa.
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	11-20-19 10:29 PM - Post#291843 Game is still going! Cunningham hit a 3 with 0.8 left on the clock, and the Tigers are off to a 6-0 run to start OT!
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-20-19 10:40 PM - Post#291848 Lost BTN plus at end of regulation time and missed that the Tigers sent the game into OT but still the same result -- crazy OT -- helluva of a game.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-20-19 10:52 PM - Post#291854 Bella had a chance to tie the score with 5 seconds left but missed a FT then Cunningham had a chance to tie with 1 second left in OT if she made all free throws. Cunninghams's 3 pt shot with 0.8 seconds left banked off the backboard from 8 ft beyond the 3 pt line. Could make ESPN highlights. Tigers had a 6 pt lead in OT but could not hold on. Iowa is very tough but relieved. Bella played really well although Carlie was only 2 for 10 and not on her game. Tigers' women have GAME.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-21-19 09:34 AM - Post#291867 Lessons that may have been learned by the Tigers from last night. The Tigers have never been as long and athletic as they looked last night against a Big Ten team and they had the best player on the court from a skill set. They moved the ball better than Iowa and had more open looks. Their team defense was excellent other than collapsing on a driver and leaving too many open 3 pt shots especially in the 3rd qtr. They played very competitively on the road in a tough arena with a diminished performance by Littlefield who is fighting off an injury. The downsides are they had a 13 pt lead in the 3rd qtr and a 6 point lead with a few minutes left in OT and could not close out the game. The Tigers also had some luck as they banked 3 3pt shots along the way. The most glaring difference is that Iowa was simply more aggressive even though they may be slightly less skilled. Tigers had 22 fouls vs Iowa's 11 fouls as Iowa players went hard to the basket. Final factor was that Iowa players came away with the balls that were on the floor with few exceptions. Tigers are not good enough in all likelihood to beat the Maryland Universitys of women's basketball but they are very good. They could be really special if their aggressiveness gets raised several decibels. Carla may need to throw some balls on the floor in practice with Tiger players wearing knee pads. It is probably a challenge for all IL coaches to have their players fight for balls like Power 5 programs but it probably decided last night's game. Most encouraging sign of all is that Bella and Carlie should be good to go with proper rest and therapy.
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	11-21-19 09:39 AM - Post#291869 https://goprincetontigers .com/news/2019/11/20/wome... https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/ i... https://qctimes.com/sports/college/basket ball/hawk... https://www.forbes.com/sites/howardmegdal/20 19/11/...
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-21-19 07:45 PM - Post#291954 Thanks for sharing. For a team that was trailing for about 42 of 45 minutes, Iowa coach and star player were not particularly gracious in victory. I would enjoy watching a healthy Tiger squad play Iowa on a neutral court in the NCAA Tournament. Looked at the replay and there were so many opportunities for the Tigers to close this game out with open looks but I do give Iowa credit for tenacity. Hopefully, there is a next time in March.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-24-19 02:53 PM - Post#292193 Brutal shooting performance in the 1st half by Tigers -- 28% overall shooting. They were down by 8 pts, 15-23, but had a run over the last 3 minutes of the 2nd period to go up by 3 pts, 27-24. Hangover from Iowa?? - hope not but need to get their act together.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-24-19 03:59 PM - Post#292194 Tough game to watch with the Tigers shooting 26.4% from field and 5-29 from 3 pt. Alarie and Littlefield shot 7 of 28 and had only 19pts although Bella had 9 rbs, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 3 blocks. Defense was really good and held Monmouth to 16 pts in 2nd half after 24 pts in 1st half for 52-40 win. Defense including rebounding and blocked shots has been consistent thru the beginning of the season with 21 steals today. It is a bit disappointing that they did not blow out Monmoumth like Rider and GW. It seems that IL teams do not blow out teams like they should, both women and men, when they are the prohibitive favorite -- lack of killer instinct - perhaps. Should have been a 25+ win today but may have been a letdown from the last 3 games on the offensive end. They need to take the intensity to one more level to be able to play with the big "girls".
penn nation Professor Posts 21193	11-24-19 04:32 PM - Post#292195 bradley Said: It is a bit disappointing that they did not blow out Monmoumth like Rider and GW. It seems that IL teams do not blow out teams like they should, both women and men, when they are the prohibitive favorite -- lack of killer instinct - perhaps. https://pennathletics.com/sports/womens-basketb all... https://www.njithighlanders.com/sports/womens-bask... https://pennathletics.com/sports/womens-basketb all...
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	11-25-19 10:00 AM - Post#292216 A number of the Ivy women's teams have done a good job putting away lesser competition, including Princeton. Just looking at the number of 15+ wins - Princeton 80-47 over Rider 75-50 over GW Penn 92-44 over Siena 85-51 over NJIT 74-42 over Iona Harvard 68-51 over Siena Yale 78-63 over Northeastrern Cornell 71-51 over Albany 68-44 over NJIT 82-59 over Niagara 77-51 over Delaware State Dartmouth 72-55 over Vermont Columbia 70-51 over Fordham I did not watch the last two games, but looking at the box scores, my guess is that Littlefield has not been herself since hurting her ankle against FGCU. Alarie is understandably the main part of this team, but Littlefield is a close second. She is definitely the floor general and is expected to do a lot when she is on the court. If she played the way she did in the first 3 1/2 games, I have no doubt they would have put Monmouth away.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-27-19 09:58 PM - Post#292575 IL women are now 30-14 in non-conference with several impressive wins. Several IL teams have not yet played the more challenging part of their non-conference schedule but hopefully the women continue to play well. It will certainly improve the odds of getting a second bid and although unlikely, there may be 3 teams good enough to make the tournament. Never follow the conference rpi as it is way too early but the IL has gotten off to a very good start. Tigers have two challenging games out of the next five games, Penn State and Marist. After that, they go on the road against Missouri and St. Louis. Three of the most challenging remaining games on the schedule is when they open on the road at Penn, Dartmouth and Harvard to start the IL season but the Tigers are good and deep.
JDP Masters Student Posts 577	11-28-19 02:04 AM - Post#292583 The year Princeton received the at large bid, I believe their RPI was in the 20s. Last year when they were on the bubble their RPI was in the low 40s. Split the difference and say an Ivy would need to be in the low 30s RPI to get a second bid. Even with the conference currently being ranked 8th â€“ still would think need to be better than 40. What does that mean â€“ assuming RealTimeâ€™s RPI projection hold roughly true: Princeton will end up with an RPI of around 20. So if they do not win the tournament, they should receive a second bid. Pennâ€™s projected RPI is around 40. Clearly good enough to be in the bubble conversation. Wins at Duke and Nova would boost the RPI into the 30s to perhaps being better than bubble â€“ clearly would be in from a Power 5 Harvardâ€™s projected RPI is around 50. That is about where Penn was last year, and Penn was not on the bubble. Great win vs. California. We will see how Penn does at La Salle next week and if Harvard can win at St. Joes like Penn did last week. The projected RPI assumes a win over both Princeton and Penn â€¦so not sure there are enough quality out of conference games for the Crimson to get better than a 40 RPI and Penn and Princeton also being better than 40 â€¦ A three bid league would be nice â€¦ and given that the league is at least six teams strong â€¦ 3 bids with 3 teams of 40 or better RPI would likely happen at a Power 5 conference â€¦ all teams just have to keep winning out of conference. Yaleâ€™s RPI is projected around 80 â€“ clearly NIT eligible. Dartmouth is around 120 â€“ even with 64 in the NIT, perhaps a pay to play tournament. But with a projected record of 15-12, turning some (4ish) of those 12 losses to Ws could be enough to move the Big Green in the NIT. If the Ivies had four teams NIT eligible (I think the Ivies have a max of two in the NIT) then perhaps the best of the four NIT eligible teams joins the conference champ in the NCAAâ€™s â€¦ Go Big Green! At least out of conference Columbia, while talented, is projecting to a 200 RPI â€“ same with Cornell at 211 â€“ Brown is projecting to 240. Having seven teams better than 200 would help the conference pedigree come selection time. All in all â€“ Ivy Womenâ€™s Basketball, while not yet at the Power 5 level, is at the next level down, and while Princeton with Bella and company are very strong, there are five teams that could play post season, and seven that will be in the mix for the 4th Ivy tournament spot â€¦ Columbia is recruiting well and Cornell and Brown have both made the Ivy Tournament â€¦ If six team are consistently in the top 150, then perhaps expanding the womenâ€™s tournament to six teams â€¦ and with the new Ivy schedule coming out next year with the Princeton exam redesign, there are more than enough weeks (10) starting in January to start with two travel partner Saturday weekends, then the six Ivy weekends â€¦ a pre-tournament Ivy weekend where the top four teams play the bottom four teams at home on a Saturday(or at the Ivy regular season champ site) to see who goes to the tournament â€¦ and then the tournament weekend â€¦ would not expand the length of the Ivy season
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	11-30-19 10:48 PM - Post#293068 Thanks for information. IL women are now 34-15 in non-conference play. Yale came back and won two games after getting destroyed by #11 ranked UCLA. It is unfortunate that Penn lost to Duke but let's hope that Il teams continue to perform well prior to IL play. It would not be surprising if there are less lopsided games this year when IL teams meet and they will probably be a number of upsets. Tigers need to get their foot on the pedal and keep winning. Tiger's opponent St. Francis has three very good players including their senior SG who averages 19 per game and has been selected to participate on Australian national teams since age 17. Tigers will have a height advantage and should have an athletic advantage and they are at home. Best strategy to get a bid no matter what happens at IvyMadness is to win and win. Good performance by all IL teams will help to keep a 2nd bid alive for Tigers and another team(s). Bella and Carlie need to come out strong from the get go tomorrow..
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-01-19 02:04 PM - Post#293096 No Bella today.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-01-19 02:51 PM - Post#293106 13-0 start -- 42-18 half time. Myers shot well and scored 11 points. Bella's replacement frosh Mitchell played very well -- she is a player. Tigers dominating the boards and getting many turnovers. Defense remains intense. Bench will get a lot of minutes in 2nd half but bench is thin with all the injuries.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-01-19 03:56 PM - Post#293162 After the 3rd qtr, defense and offense got sloppy but dominant win, 76-44. Mitchell, Bella's replacement, played 25 minutes with 11 pts and 14 rebounds. Myers had 17 pts in 16 minutes. It looked like Coach Berube did not want to take any chances with injuries to Bella or Carlie, limited playing time, as they have one of their toughest games on the schedule next week at Marist. Marist has traditionally had a very strong women's program. Mitchell and Embro may be the replacements for Bella and Bauer next year up front. Team is very deep although inconsistent in shooting, especially 3s', but very consistent on D and rebounding.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-06-19 07:55 PM - Post#293996 Six more non-conference games including Marist, Penn State, Missouri and St. Louis with only one game, Penn State, at home. The most challenging of the remaining non-conference games will probably be Marist (tomorrow night) or Missouri. The Marist game may be as challenging or more than playing Penn and Harvard on the road but all of these road games will be tough in order to keep a 2nd bid alive, the Tigers probably need to win at least 4 of the remaining non-conference games, maybe 5. The Marist team is a senior/junior team who has 20 win+ seasons over the past two years. They have 4 players that were top 200 recruits or better with 2 transfers from Power 5 teams. Coach is 400-156 at Marist with ten trips to NCAA Tournament. Best player, senior SG, shoots free throws better than Devin Cannady and the team as a whole shoots 35% on 3 pointers and 79% on FTs. Needless to say, Tigers need Bella to play. As per Coach Berube, she is day to day as a result of sprained ankle. Tigers will have to play their A game to win. One encouraging sign is that Tigers without Bella beat Seton Hall on the road and Seton Hall gave UConn women a real battle last night before succumbing. Will be an incredible test as to how good or not Tiger defense is. Without Bella, it seems unlikely that they can beat Marist. With her, it may be a toss up game although Bella's height advantage could push the Tigers to a victory along with Bauer and freshmen Mitchell. Additionally, Marist only plays 7 while Princeton will play 9 or 10.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-07-19 10:20 PM - Post#294064 No Bella yet Tigers win by 12 after only having a 2 pt lead after the 3rd qtr. Bella's replacement, frosh Mitchell, had 13 rebounds. Based on the stats, it appears that the defense played well but offensive struggles continue -- shooting percentage -- they definitely need Bella on the offensive end. Remarkable victory and they have an opportunity to do some great things this season if they can get healthy and remain focused. Marist is a very good team but DEFENSE WINS!
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-07-19 11:03 PM - Post#294069 Prior to today's games, IL had 3 teams in the top 25 mid-majors, Princeton-4, Penn-14 and Harvard-19. Tigers have now beaten Marist-10, FGU-5 and Roder-23. Hopefully, non-conference performance for IL teams continue on to give an opportunity for more than one bids regardless of IvyMadness but time will tell. Today, IL women won 3 of 5 now the women are now 43-23 in non-conference play.
SecS3 Junior Posts 246	12-07-19 11:41 PM - Post#294076 Unfortunately most of the Ivies OOC has been played in the bakery so the 43-23 record is a bit deceiving. For what it's worth, this hasn't been the case for the Tigers. FGCU is now 9-1 and recently won the Cancun Challenge beating Notre Dame in the process. Rider has also played very well since their opening loss to Princeton. A remarkable win at Marist today having to play without Bella again. Obviously need her too be healthy for the upcoming games and of course the league season.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-08-19 10:04 AM - Post#294092 I did see where one rating service has the IL women as the 8th ranked conference -- 11th last year. Harvard and Yale and to a somewhat lesser extent Cornell and Columbia have reasonably competitive non-conference schedules although Princeton's schedule is at a different level. Penn's schedule is surprising as they obviously have a good team but it may be more challenging for them to get a bid if they do not win IvyMadness -- not sure that I understand their logic as to scheduling non-conference games. Based on the reply of last night's game, Tigers definitely need Bella on the offensive end. One weakness of the team right now is shot selection and they are not a great shooting team. With Bella, FG percentage obviously goes up with better looks for 3 pt shooters. Carla needs to solve offensive shooting funk as it might well determine how far they go if injuries do not stop them. Bella was walking fine last evening on the bench.
JDP Masters Student Posts 577	12-08-19 02:22 PM - Post#294121 Hi bradley, I provided some stats on the Ivy League board to address some of your scheduling questions. The one point that is somewhat buried is the post is that the Ivies need to play more top 100 teams and win those games â€¦ not many Ivy teams have beaten a non-Ivy top 25 team. Ivies play 24 top 100 gams â€“ 5-12 with 7 to come â€“ Princeton has 4 wins and a win over 101 GW Princeton has had the hardest schedule early with an average 100 RPI â€¦ Pennâ€™s remaining out of conference schedule is 108 â€¦ By Realtime RPI both teams will have an average out of conference RPI of around 150 â€¦ with Princeton playing the more barbelled schedule It does make sense â€¦ with senior Bella, Princeton should be trying to schedule more top end games, but also needs some easier games to get the full bench into play â€¦ it has worked, barring some crazy falloff in the Ivies â€¦ they likely can lose 2-3 regular conference games to Harvard, Penn or Yale, and the tournament final and still get an at-large bid â€¦ their projected #16 RPI would not likely get below the high 30s and they have a very good NCAA history. Pennâ€™s out of conference schedule has at its core the Big 5 and Drexel â€¦ usually all good teams, but the bottom end have been 125-175 rpi teams not 75-125 rpi as in the past â€¦If Penn knew Kayla as a freshman would come in and average nearly 20 ppg, then I suspect a few games would have gotten swapped. But as Penn has played really well in the wins, they have gotten a lot of players (some who have not played much in past years) valuable looks and playing time for what should be a very competitive Ivy season and the remainder of the city series Drexel (40), Nova (147) and Temple (48)
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-10-19 06:27 PM - Post#294359 Bella is not playing again but she is walking. Tigers played a lazy first half both defensively and offensively but they had a good final 2 minutes to go up 20-11.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-10-19 06:55 PM - Post#294364 Poor play in 2nd qtr as well, 31-20 at half time. This game should be a wide margin victory. Carla may have to get them focused at half time. 3rd and 4th quarters have been a strength for this y-t-d but they need to get out of la la land.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-10-19 07:46 PM - Post#294371 Tigers woke up.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-10-19 08:28 PM - Post#294375 When will Bella return? Direct response: SOON.
Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2814	12-10-19 08:52 PM - Post#294379 Per Coach Berube she hopes to be back for Penn State. Wasnâ€™t needed tonight.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-11-19 10:04 AM - Post#294439 Women have moved up to #28 in the coaches poll with Florida Gulf Coast at #26 even with the Tigers winning rather easily at home, 14 pts, without Bella against FGU but FGU had some big time wins against Power 5 competition. AP has FGU at #28 without any votes for the Tigers -- no surprise. Women have the next two games against traditionally strong Big 5 teams, PSU and Missouri, that have height and talent but disappointing seasons so far. Missouri lost by 12 pts against Courtney's UNC team in the finals of the Cancun Tournament. If, big if, the Tigers win both games and with a few good breaks, they could get within to #25 in the coaches poll. They do need Bella for both of these games, especially Missouri, as a defensive presence. The obvious goal is to receive the highest rank possible if they get into the NCAAW Tournament. They may have the opportunity to secure a rank that has not been seen in a long long time in the IL. The quality of the IL women's play is a big plus for the Tigers but will also present challenges to win games within the league.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-13-19 10:49 AM - Post#294600 It was just announced that Bella has received the Philadelphia Sports Writers Association Athlete of the Year Award. Prior winners include Jalen Brunson, Brian Westbrook etc. Drives home the point even more that the Tigers definitely need Bella to make some "hay" on the national stage this year. She brings multi-dimensional skill levels to the table against Power 5 competition. Hopefully, she plays tomorrow against Penn State and more importantly on the road against Missouri and St. Louis next week. The Tigers are 5-0 without her this year against challenging competition and last year, they were 2-7 without her so the surrounding players are better and/or more experienced but Bella is needed for the Tigers to be truly a top 25 team.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-13-19 11:02 PM - Post#294633 Penn State women's basketball program has historically been a Big Time successful program although it has experienced some ups and downs in recent years. They have won multiple Big Ten titles. They have height and one star player, junior guard McDaniel, who has average 33.5 pts over the past two games including 40 against Pitt in their last game. PSU has also beaten Clemson, 5-4 on the year. They have a new coach and play pressure defense -- athletic team. It is helpful that it is a home game and we can only hope that Bella is on the court especially with PSU's rebounding capabilities. PSU is probably not as good as Iowa but it will be a challenging game followed by probably even more challenging games on the road against Missouri and St. Louis. It is important to win at least 2 of the next 3 games and tomorrow is a good one to get in the bank.
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	12-14-19 04:38 PM - Post#294648 Princeton 29 PSU 13 with 4:51 left in 1st half. PSU started strong, but Princeton has locked them down. PSU has not scored in almost 8 minutes and Princeton had an 18-0 run. Alarie is back and completely dominant. She has 16 points (2-2 from 2, 4-5 from 3). Her threes have all been at the top of the arc from beyond the men's range. She will need to keep taking threes to get ready for the WNBA. Littlefield has 7 points on three driving layups, frustrating PSU from the inside.
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	12-14-19 04:55 PM - Post#294649 Princeton 40 PSU 28 halftime Shooting Princeton 16-35 46% (11-20 55% from 2, 5-15 33% from 3), 3-3 100% FT PSU 10-21 48% (6-17 35% from 2, 4-4 100% from 3), 4-5 80% FT Alarie 19 (3-4, 4-5, 1-1) Littlefield 11 (3-6, 1-1, 2-2) Frazier 9 (4-7, 0-0, 1-1) Marisa 7 (1-3, 1-1, 2-2) Hagan 6 (0-0, 2-2, 0-0) McDaniel 2 (came in as Big X's leading scorer at 19.9 ppg) Rebounds Princeton 14 (6 off 33%, 8 def 67%) Mitchell & Stone 3 each PSU 16 (4 off 33%, 12 def 67%) McDaniel 4 Assists Princeton 12 (of 16 75%) Stone and Connolly 3 each PSU 4 (of 10 40%) Turnovers Princeton 4 (PSU 0 pts) PSU 16 (Princeton 16 pts) Steals Princeton 9 (Littlefield and Connolly 3 each) PSU 1 Points in Paint Princeton 22 PSU 12
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-14-19 05:04 PM - Post#294651 3 pointer by PSU with one second left was not helpful but a good 1st half after a slow start. Bella and Carlie had 30 of 40 points -- they can play. Bella was absurdly hot with 4 out of 5 3 pointers which will not continue but if the other big does not come out to defend, Bella will pull the trigger. The other Tiger players contributed on the defensive end. 16 turnovers by PSU vs. 4 by Tigers. This game is definitely not over.
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	12-14-19 05:24 PM - Post#294652 Princeton 61 PSU 40 after 3rd quarter Alarie 23 (4-7, 4-5, 3-3), 4 reb, 2 blocks Littlefield 20 (5-8, 2-2, 4-4), 3 assists, 3 steals Mitchell & Cunningham 6 each Frazier 12 Marison 10 McDaniel 2 Turnovers PSU 21 (Princeton 23 points) Princeton 8 (PSU 2 points) Rebounds Princeton 22 PSU 22
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	12-14-19 06:00 PM - Post#294653 Princeton 72 PSU 55 Shooting Princeton 28-63 44% (20-39 51% from 2, 8-24 33% from 3), 8-9 89% FT PSU 18-43 42% (12-31 39% from 2, 6-12 50% from 3), 13-17 77% FT Littlefield 25 pts (6-9, 3-4, 4-4), 3 assists, 3 steals, 35 min Alarie 23 pts (4-8, 4-5, 3-3), 5 reb, 3 blocks, 27 min Cunningham 9 (3-4, 1-4), 4 reb, 4 assists Mitchell 7 (3-6, 0-1), 7 reb Connolly 0 pts, 6 assists, 3 steals Stone 0 pts (0-2, 0-3), 3 reb, 3 assists Meyers 2 (1-4, 0-4) Frazier 12 pts (5-9, 0-0, 0-0), 5 reb Marisa 12 (2-5, 2-4) Hagans 9 (1-1, 2-4, 1-1) Ebo 8 (1-4, 0-1, 6-8), 7 reb McDaniel 3 (1-7, 0-0, 1-2), 4 reb, 4 assists, 8 turnovers Rebounds Princeton 29 (11 off 32%, 18 def 67%) PSU 32 (9 off 33%, 23 def 68%) Assists Princeton 20 of 28 (71%) PSU 8 of 18 (44%) Turnovers Princeton 12 (PSU 6 pts) PSU 27 (Princeton 31 pts) Steals Princeton 12 PSU 8 Points in Paint Princeton 38 PSU 24 https://goprincetontigers .com/sidearmstats/wbball/...
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-14-19 06:13 PM - Post#294656 I am not sure what has been the most impressive performance of the season but this one was very good. After a very slow start, down 2-8, the Tigers had a 26 point lead early in the 4th quarter, 69-43. They shut down the 17th leader scorer in the country to 3 pts on 1-7 shooting. She had difficulty in even getting off shots. PSU was held scoreless for almost 8 minutes in the 2nd quarter -- crazy good defense. Bella and Littlefied had 48 points on combined 7 out of 9 3 pt shooting. Bella's presence just creates opportunities for others and Carlie has taken a huge step up from her very disappointing performance against Kentucky in the tournament last year. Two big games coming up and not easy ones. Hopefully, Courtney calls up Berube to give her some tips as UNC beat Missouri by 12 in the final of the Cancun Classic. Missouri has 2 of the top 30 freshmen recruits in the country but they should enjoy tonight. This team plays high level team basketball and really good defense. Let's hope that they make some noise down the road and they might indeed. Amazingly, they will face tough competition in the IL this year that hopefully serves them well.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-18-19 08:44 AM - Post#294803 Tigers are now #27 in coaches' poll and ESPN has them as #9 seed in NCAAW Tournament. Tigers do not even show up in the AP poll. They are still ranked as #4 team in Mid-Major Poll. They were 4-0 without Bella vs. 2-7 last year when she was injured including wins against Seton Hall, FGU (#26 in AP and Coaches Poll) and Marist. 5 of next 6 games are on the road including their first three IL games. Three of the next six road opponents have a combined 21-7 record == St. Louis, Penn and Harvard. Surprisingly, their most challenging upcoming game will probably be tonight against 3-8 Missouri and/or Penn at the Palestra. Missouri has been a top women's program with 4 consecutive trips to the tournament and they have two of the top 30 recruits in the country as freshmen who are major contributors. They lost to Courtney's team in the Cancun Classic final and they lost a tight game against the 17th seed team on the road last week. They are coming of age and they are dangerous. Their roster is full of all state players and they have height and will probably be the most athletic team that the Tigers face, significantly more than Iowa. Fortunately, they are young but they are coming of age. On paper, it would be a bad loss although Missouri will probably be a competitive team in the SEC. The Tigers will need their "A" game.
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-18-19 09:24 PM - Post#294854 Up 15-5 after the 1st quarter at Missouri behind 8 from Littlefield and 7 from Alarie. Tigers forced 5 TOs and a 2/13 shooting start from Missouri
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-18-19 09:44 PM - Post#294856 Tigers extend the lead to 31-15 at the half
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-18-19 09:49 PM - Post#294857 welcometothejungle Said: Tigers extend the lead to 31-15 at the half Should clarify that the Princeton Tigers are up 31-15 at the half rather than the Missouri Tigers haha
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-18-19 10:09 PM - Post#294858 Missouri has scored a lot of points in their first 11 games but the Tigers D was consistently intense and focused in the first half. Let's see if they can maintain the intensity in the 2nd half. D is the motto for Coach Berube and having Bella on O and D obviously does not hurt. Obviously off to a good start but plenty of time left in the game.
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-18-19 10:19 PM - Post#294859 A dominant 3rd quarter gives Princeton a 51-24 lead after 3, and honestly Missouri looks overmatched. Littlefield and Alarie have both been exceptional as they have been all season, and everyone else is contributing nicely as well
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-18-19 10:35 PM - Post#294860 64-26 against a team that has been in the NCAAW Tournament for the prior 4 years with 20+ wins each year. I wonder if the AP will give the Tigers at least 1 vote for the top 25 next week. I doubt it but we can always hope. This team is for real and they are a pleasure to watch because they simply play as a team -- Coach has done one heckuva job.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-18-19 10:36 PM - Post#294861 64-26 against a team that has been in the NCAAW Tournament for the prior 4 years with 20+ wins each year. I wonder if the AP will give the Tigers at least 1 vote for the top 25 next week. I doubt it but we can always hope. This team is for real and they are a pleasure to watch because they simply play as a team -- Coach has done one heckuva job.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-18-19 10:36 PM - Post#294862 64-26 against a team that has been in the NCAAW Tournament for the prior 4 years with 20+ wins each year. I wonder if the AP will give the Tigers at least 1 vote for the top 25 next week. I doubt it but we can always hope. This team is for real and they are a pleasure to watch because they simply play as a team -- Coach has done one heckuva job.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-18-19 10:36 PM - Post#294863 64-26 against a team that has been in the NCAAW Tournament for the prior 4 years with 20+ wins each year. I wonder if the AP will give the Tigers at least 1 vote for the top 25 next week. I doubt it but we can always hope. This team is for real and they are a pleasure to watch because they simply play as a team -- Coach has done one heckuva job.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-18-19 11:11 PM - Post#294866 Missouri 33 pts tied their record for the least number of points in the history of their program. Preseason 1st team guard scored 0 points on 0-6 shooting after averaging 15.5 pts per game. Alarie was so dominant on the defensive and offensive end at the beginning of the game. Littlefield's game has improved so much, it is hard to believe. Her defense is as good as her offense. 15-0 after 6 minutes set the tone. Defense was crazy good and simply stifling. Mizzou announcers were simply stunned and think that the Tigers are a NCAAW Tournament team and dangerous. Time will tell.
rbg Postdoc Posts 3052	12-19-19 09:44 AM - Post#294875 Princeton absolutely crushed Missouri last night. https://www.newstribune.com/news/sports/college/m i... https://www.columbiamissourian.com/sports/mizzou_w... https://goprincetontigers .com/news/2019/12/18/wome... Alarie was pretty quiet on the offensive end in the 2nd half with only 1 point, but her defensive effort was there. It's hard to know if she is fully healthy from her ankle injury. Littlefield is playing on another level. Penn State and Missouri could not stop her going to the hoop or hitting the 3. I wonder how much having Berube as her coach has helped improve her game. Big game at St. Louis on Friday. St. Louis is 7-3, but they lost by 25 (!) to Missouri a couple of weeks ago.
Albert08 Masters Student Posts 572	12-19-19 12:17 PM - Post#294909 This game reminded me of the game when the 2014-15 (30-0) team went to Ann Arbor for a midweek game in December and blew Michigan out of their arena by a score of 85-55. After that game, they began to realize how good they were, and never looked back. We'll see what happens from here on out. I think this may also have been intended to make a statement against common opponents of Mizzou, and anyone else who's paying attention. Missouri State, currently ranked #20 in the AP poll, beat Mizzou 79-72. Courtney's UNC team beat Mizzou by 13, 82-69. Neither of those scores is comparable to what our Tigers did to the Missouri Tigers. This team is really good, and if they keep winning, will get a lot of publicity as the season rolls on.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-19-19 05:15 PM - Post#294930 Albert08 Said: I think this may also have been intended to make a statement against common opponents of Mizzou, and anyone else who's paying attention. Missouri State, currently ranked #20 in the AP poll, beat Mizzou 79-72. Courtney's UNC team beat Mizzou by 13, 82-69. Neither of those scores is comparable to what our Tigers did to the Missouri Tigers. This team is really good, and if they keep winning, will get a lot of publicity as the season rolls on. You made a good point as Carla kept the 1st team on the floor longer than I thought that she would. What makes this one a little different than the Michigan game is that it is now 2 games in a row against historically good Power 5 teams as the Tigers were up 26 pts against PSU early in the 4th qtr before taking their foot off the pedal. Additionally, the total shutdown of two good offensive teams was somewhat unimaginable. Missouri had the 12th highest freshmen recruiting class this year and their two freshmen stars were shutdown along with the senior star. Although Bella was a reasonably high recruit #83 in her class, the rest of the Tigers other than freshmen Mitchell were not top 100 recruits. Question is did Courtney find diamonds in the rough or is it primarily a function of player development and coaching. The question might also be asked to Coach Jones in New Haven.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-20-19 12:26 AM - Post#294991 St. Louis is 7-3 with a RPI ranking of 28 vs. the Tigers 9-1 record with a RPI ranking of 10. St. Louis has played a competitive schedule,i.e. Cincinnati,Vanderbilt etc as reflected in their RPI. Most opponents have a good win/loss record other than Missouri which soundly defeated St. Louis -- a real outlier. Billikens have a big line up with 3 players averaging greater than 7 rebounds per game and they shoot well, FG and FT %. They have won their last 11 games at home and their head coach has been there for 8 years with 34 years of head coaching experience. Turnovers have been an issue. Based on the Missouri/St. Louis game result, I thought that tomorrow night's game would be an easier one for the Tigers than Missouri but probably not. They have played well against everyone else other than the Missouri game and they have been successful against a challenging schedule. For the Tigers, their very challenging non-conference schedule with victories will help them in the long run. If they win tomorrow night, the Tigers are almost a lock to get in the Top 25 next week based on the head on schedule for several teams just above them. Hopefully, they do not have a letdown on the road.
Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2814	12-20-19 11:37 AM - Post#294999 If Carla can recruit as well as she can coach, I can hardly wait to see her first class.
SecS3 Junior Posts 246	12-20-19 11:53 AM - Post#295001 As I recall, Bella was closer to #183 than #83 when she was coming out of HS. I remember some extended discussion on the Duke boards as to why they didn't recruit her considering her parents and the fact that she attended basketball camps there. If she where a top 100 recruit, I'm guessing they would have at least shown an interest. Along with Mitchell, Abby Meyers was also rated quite high by a number of people along with current Freshman Maddie Plank who unfortunately has yet to play. Injuries? Carlie Littlefield, on the other hand, was somewhat under the radar which is surprising considering she was a two time first team All-State and the 5A POY in Iowa. Girls basketball is quite good there. After the Penn St. game, I noticed their coach gave Carlie a hug and a quick word. Almost looked like she really wanted her when she was at Marquette. I don't think coach Banghart recruited anyone just to fill a uniform. Everyone she went after was a likely asset to the program so it shouldn't be all that surprising that many of them develop into pretty good players. Hopefully Coach Berube will be able to do the same.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-20-19 03:55 PM - Post#295020 Tiger69 Said: If Carla can recruit as well as she can coach, I can hardly wait to see her first class. Apparently, she will be in DC this Sunday, recruiting. Baltimore/DC area has been kind to the Tigers over the past few years. It will be interesting to see if Carla and Courtney compete for one or two players. It sounds like Carla enjoys recruiting and she has a very calm thoughtful persona. It probably does not hurt that she has been successful so far in the early stages of her stewardship.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-20-19 04:28 PM - Post#295021 It was good to see Penn hold on to win today and hopefully, Harvard takes down St. Joe's tonight. Every non-conference win by IL teams from here on in should help the cause for a 2 bid league. Once we get into the IL season, it will be slightly less damaging for Princeton, Penn, Harvard or Yale to lose to one another which may happen although the cream will probably rise to the top.
Tiger84 Senior Posts 379	12-20-19 04:58 PM - Post#295025 #69 recruit Kaitlyn Chen has committed to Princeton. This program doesn't rebuild, it reloads.
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-20-19 09:20 PM - Post#295046 3s from Cunningham and Alarie (who hit an NBA range stepback as the clock was winding down) at the end of the quarter give Princeton an 18-11 lead over Saint Louis after 1 quarter. Saint Louis has been pretty aggressive on defense and blocked a few of the Tigers shots early, but Tigers are hitting jumpers
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-20-19 09:43 PM - Post#295048 Tigers close the 2nd quarter on a 17-2 run and lead Saint Louis 41-24 at the half. Littlefield had a great quarter with 2 and-one layups, and has 12 points. Alarie now has 2 NBA range 3s tonight and she's up to 10 points
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-20-19 10:04 PM - Post#295049 Saint Louis starts the half on a 10-4 run of their own as the Tigers come out a little slow. Still up 11 but Coach Berube calls a time out
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-20-19 10:19 PM - Post#295051 Tigers up 10, 53-43 after 3 quarters. Saint Louis was the more energetic team in the 3rd quarter to pull the lead back down after going down 20 at the start of the quarter. 6 offensive rebounds in the quarter for SLU, and if they had knocked down a couple of their wide open threes this would be a one or two possession game
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-20-19 10:38 PM - Post#295052 66-50 win for the Tigers, 23/13/2/2 for Alarie on 10/15 shooting, Littlefield with 15/7/3. Cunningham and Stone each with double figures as well
Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2814	12-20-19 10:55 PM - Post#295053 Hard to believe that this same St Louis got blown out by Missouri. Illustrates how useless comparative scores are.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-20-19 11:53 PM - Post#295059 Important win for the Tigers for many reasons. St. Louis is a surprisingly good team and very good home team. They had size which the Tigers may will face in the NCAAW tournament plus a very good point guard. Additionally, the Billikens can shoot and most importantly, they play as a team versus Missouri that played as individuals. It was also good to see them tested in the 2nd (24-22) and 3rd quarter (53-43) and respond producing what looks like a comfortable win. They will be a top 25 team next week in the coaches' poll and maybe even get some votes in the AP poll. Other than Iowa and Seton Hall, Bella and Carlie have been the two best players on the floor when they are not injured. They need to simply stay focused on the IL regular season and not have to rely on the idiocy of IvyMadness to make the NCAAW Tournament in all likelihood. It is possible although unlikely that the Tigers could be a 6 to 8 seed if all goes well but there is a long way to go plus injuries can always rear their ugly head. Pretty easy final non-conference game and they have enjoyed a great first half of a season. It could have only been better if they did not lose the 11 pt lead on the road to Iowa or a 6 pt lead in OT.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-21-19 12:46 AM - Post#295060 Best compliment maybe of the season made by Billikens Coach at the end of the game --- "We need to play like them" -- says it all.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-24-19 03:48 PM - Post#295259 Tiger women finally make top 25 in Coaches Poll, #25, and amazingly get some votes in the AP poll, tied for #31. Coach Berube and the players, even without Bella for 4 1/2 games, deserve much credit. It will be interesting to see if they hold a top 25 position for the remainder of the season if they continue to win. One loss in the IL season may knock them out and it will be very challenging not to lose a game or two against the level of competition in the IL this season. The good news is that they have put themselves in a position to draw a much higher seed than usual but they have to continue to win. Fortunately, the IL women have performed well in non-conference play and hopefully, Yale/Penn/Columbia will a game or two against tough remaining competition. IL regular season may be more important to the Tigers than IvyMadness from a win/loss perspective regarding seeding. If Princeton and Penn both go 13-1 or 12-2, they may both receive automatic bids regardless of IvyMadness but one of these teams will probably win the IL Tournament although injuries can always be a factor. Right now, a so called expert has the Tigers as a 8 seed in the NCAAW Tournament but hopefully they can get to at least a 6 seed. It probably helps to have a future WNBA player for seeding purposes as well. Similar to Cornell on the men's side years ago, this team has the possibility to make a run in the tournament especially with a multi-dimensional Center which the Ivies rarely have. It will be the time for the team to set up but we have a long way to go.
SecS3 Junior Posts 246	12-24-19 04:17 PM - Post#295260 Unfortunately they won't go far with an 8 or 9 seed. Need to be better or worse to have a shot at making the Sweet 16. A lot can happen 'til then though.
JDP Masters Student Posts 577	12-24-19 05:34 PM - Post#295264 Given that the Tigers have positioned themselves as a Top 25 team at worst â€¦ and as high as a Top 12 team â€¦ the eight seeding sadly reflects where the so called experts still place the Ivies or more likely any non-Power 5 conference team. A Princeton/UNC 8/9 game is something I could see the committee liking as an ironic pairing. Given the 8 seeding for Princeton, I think the second Ivy being an 11 or better is a low probability â€¦ to be considered as a bubble team, one likely needs a low 40s RPI at worst â€¦ I would say most likely 30s to be a realistic candidate and in the 20s to be hard to overlook. Pennâ€™s projected RPI is currently at 42 â€“ this assumes a win at Nova â€“ losses at Temple and at Yale and a Princeton sweep. Win all but one Princeton game â€“ be co-ivy champions at worst, and lose in the finals â€¦ It would be a 24-2 record going into the Ivy tournament â€¦ perhaps 25-3 is what the Committee is looking at - perhaps that is enough of a resume to overcome mid-major bias. Yaleâ€™s projected RPI is currently at 63. Win at UNC on 28 Dec would be a big help. The RPI assumes six Ivy losses â€¦ canâ€™t afford at Cornell or Columbia and hope for an at large bid. There may be a slim change to get to the low 30s, but likely need to win the tournament to get in For the rest of the Ivies, I think there are four teams playing for the 4th spot in the Ivy Tournament â€“ any of these four would have to win the tournament to make the NCAAs The other question is if Princeton does not win the Ivy Tournament â€¦ what does there record need to be (an who can thy lose to) and still make the NCAAs. I think they need to be better than 11-3 at â€¦ with loses at Penn, at Yale or perhaps at Harvard â€¦ each loss likely drops them a line â€¦ they only have 2-3 lines â€¦ is this right, no, but it may be reality if this start only translates to an 8/9 seed. I agree that a 10-11-12 seed is a much better slot for a second weekend appearance, than a 8/9 ... the top 4 teams are just at another level.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-24-19 06:20 PM - Post#295265 Your comments make a whole lot of sense but as you suggest it is far too early as to where Princeton, Penn or any other team ends up. The seeding for the Tigers is very important to give them a shot to make a run. This year's team is unlike the Blake Dietrick team that beat Green Bay as an 8 seed but then lost in a competitive game to Maryland. Simple reason is having a top 10 WNBA draft pick at 6'4" with the second best player being the point guard. In addition, they have a complement of different skilled players with a deep squad. The team has the physical attributes and basketball skills to compete against top teams other than seed #1 and possibly seed #2 teams. Finally, they play D and rebound without turning over the ball but they get turnovers. Nothing is guaranteed and they may lay an egg in the first game if they get a bid but the talent is there. IL teams occasionally have the opportunity to take a good long ride at the Big Dance, i.e. Cornell but you need to make it happen when you have the opportunity. Obviously, it would be good PR for IL if the Tigers or Penn make a strong run.
JDP Masters Student Posts 577	12-25-19 12:03 AM - Post#295272 Cornell made their run as a 12 seed â€“ wins over a 5 and 4 before they played the 1. The one big difference in the womenâ€™s tournament is that the top 16 womenâ€™s seeds are playing on their home court â€¦ so there is no neutral fan rooting for the higher seed to fall in game 2. If the Tigers are the Ivy tournament champ â€¦ they may be a 8 or 7 seed â€“ facing a 1 or a 2 in the second round â€¦ the 1 and 2 are like 95%+ win probabilities in round 2 â€¦ last year #2 Iowa was a low 74% chance to beat #7 Missouri. Still donâ€™t like those odds. I believe the Tigers are underseeded as an 8 â€¦ Letâ€™s split the difference and say Ivy optimistic eyes believe they could be a 3/4 seed based on their 12 RPI â€“ but the system makes them an 8 seed â€“ reality is that they are likely in between â€“ say a 6. If you look at Gonzaga (5 seed last year) or SD State (6 seed last year) and BYU (7 seed last year) they had ever so slightly better out of conference resumes (Gonzaga won at Stanford and has three top 50 wins â€“ SD state had three top 50 wins and less than 10 point losses to Baylor and Oregon â€“ BYU beat Gonzaga three times and had 8 top 100 wins) For a deep run are you better off as a 7-8-9-10 seed or a 5-6-11-12 seed? I think you would want to face the 3 or 4 in round 2 as an under seeded 11/12 or a properly seeded 5/6 if you could get that high. So the reality of having 1-2 losses and winning the Ivy tournament may not at the current status of the league be ideal for a deep run â€¦ not that putting yourself at the mercy of the committee as an at large is a better choice ïŠ I think last yearâ€™s WCC is an example of where the Ivy need to be for multiple bids in the 5/6/7 rangeâ€¦ two teams top 50 (Princeton â€“ Penn) â€¦ another team top 75 (Yale)â€¦ three teams around 100 â€¦ Harvard is there â€¦ just donâ€™t have the second â€“ let alone a 3rd â€¦ remaining four WCC teams are 200-300. But the Ivies may have four teams 100-200. So not far away â€¦ All the teams likely need a SOS bump to help the conference RPI. The Ivies are the 8th ranked conference with the 24th best SOS â€¦ need the SOS to be low/mid teens â€“ perhaps you pass the Missouri Valley at 7 â€¦ perhaps the Ivies could become better than the Big East at 6 â€¦ still likely a ways away from ranking ahead of a Power 5 conference. Overall, the league has come far in the past decade â€¦ 3-4 teams have been in the top 100 mix and for many years getting multiple NIT bids with one at large NCAA bidâ€¦ six teams have made the Ivy tournament â€¦ seven are likely in contention this season for the Ivy Tournament â€¦ Next season likely five solid squads with potential to all be top 100.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-28-19 05:59 PM - Post#295374 JDP Said: All the teams likely need a SOS bump to help the conference RPI. The Ivies are the 8th ranked conference with the 24th best SOS â€¦ need the SOS to be low/mid teens â€“ perhaps you pass the Missouri Valley at 7 â€¦ perhaps the Ivies could become better than the Big East at 6 â€¦ still likely a ways away from ranking ahead of a Power 5 conference. Overall, the league has come far in the past decade â€¦ 3-4 teams have been in the top 100 mix and for many years getting multiple NIT bids with one at large NCAA bidâ€¦ six teams have made the Ivy tournament â€¦ seven are likely in contention this season for the Ivy Tournament â€¦ Next season likely five solid squads with potential to all be top 100. Big win for Yale and IL today as Yale topped 9-1 Courtney Banghart's UNC team even with Yale's very good big picking up 5 fouls. Yale is a good team and will be moving up from mid-60s' RPI. Several days after Tigers's beat St. Louis by 16, St. Louis took undefeated Kansas into OT but lost. Several key non-conference games remain for IL teams that could help or hurt conference ranking from 8th place. In all likelihood, there could be 3 top 60 teams in the IL at the end of the year although someone will obviously lose head to head matches. Tigers play New Hampshire, 3-8, at home tomorrow. NH previously lost to Brown by 8 and Dartmouth by 16. They have two good players with their 6'3" center averaging a double double, 17/10. Tigers bench should get some playing time although one never knows until the end of the game.
JDP Masters Student Posts 577	12-28-19 11:41 PM - Post#295388 Agree big win â€¦ will clearly help Yaleâ€™s RPI (but UNC is only RPI 128 â€“ UNC might finish 5th in the Ivies this season and not make the Ivy tournament) and keep the Ivies at 8th There are 17 out of conference games remaining â€¦ Ivies are projected to go 12-5 to finish the non-conference portion at 70-32 â€¦ But itâ€™s the 24th rated SOS â€“ the next lowest in the top 10 conferences is 14th (Big 12). Here is where I believe the conference should step in and guide the member institutions on the importance for the league to schedule harder â€¦ Impose a rule that you canâ€™t play a team that had an RPI of 250 or worse in the past two seasons (each school plays at least three 251+ or worse teams). Just going to the 151-250 band would likely help a lot - Being 38-15 vs 151-250 RPI schools should do a lot more for the league than the 22-2 vs 251+ RPI schools. Top 25 RPI: 0-5 26-50: 2-1 (1 remaining) 51-100: 5-6 (3 remaining) 101-150: 8-5 (2 remaining) 151-250: 21-8 (4 remaining) 251+: 22-2 (7 remaining) Here is the current projected RPI finishes â€“ could have 2 top 50 â€“ 4 top 100 â€“ 7 top 150: 9. Princeton 33. Penn 63. Yale (will rise slightly after UNC) 103. Harvard 134. Cornell 154. Dartmouth 162. Columbia 228. Brown All assuming no major change in performance four post season teams: Princeton should be in the NCAAs even if they do not win the Ivy championship Penn should be in serious contention for the NCAAs â€¦ but this assume wins at Hawaii, at Villanova, at Temple and only losing to Princeton twice and at Yale. 22-4 regular season would be very strong. Likely a win over Yale at the Tournament would get the RPI into the 20s Yale is likely just outside the NCAA bubble â€¦needs wins over Princeton (has one projected over Penn) â€“ or no losses to the bottom five schools. Expect NIT if does not win Tournament â€¦ having teams 5-7 with better RPIs pushes them much closer to the bubble Harvard is moving into contention for the NIT (even if they do not make the Ivy tournament) â€“ remember its 64 teams â€¦ so need to be around RPI 100 for an at large Cornell, Dartmouth, Columbia â€“ all would benefit from the no 251- perhaps one would be in NIT consideration. There could be a 3-4 way tie for the 4th slot at the Tournament â€¦ it will be who can knock off the higher seeds
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-29-19 09:13 AM - Post#295398 You are absolutely correct that IL women need to ramp up the quality of schedule regarding non-conference games. Perfect example is Penn. It is understandable and good that they play Philadelphia schools (not as strong as prior years but their other non-conference schedule is very weak this year). They are too good of a team year in and year out to have this type of non-conference schedule. Needless to say, it hurts the IL and in the long run probably Penn as well but there are other IL teams that need to step up as well. In retrospect, Princeton should have replaced 2 of the 3 games against weak teams with higher quality teams to boost their SOS as well as the league SOS. Typically, the IL has been a Princeton and Penn dance but this year, there will be good/strong competition each weekend. It should improve the level of play for the NCAAW Tournament. The women are close to a two bid conference not factoring in IvyMadness which says a lot about the women.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-29-19 02:06 PM - Post#295407 Littlefield is out today -- not sure why but it does not appear significant. 12 days or so to Penn so hopefully, she will make a quick recovery.
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-29-19 02:09 PM - Post#295408 Based on the way this one's going so far, wouldn't be surprised if Littlefield just has a minor injury that she could have played through if the opponent was different
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-29-19 02:16 PM - Post#295410 https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=6339&... The Massey Computer Rankings projected score coming into the game was 82-36. After 7 minutes the Tigers lead 22-1.
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-29-19 02:23 PM - Post#295411 UNH hits their first FG, a jump shot, with 4 seconds left in the quarter. The Tigers lead 24-3 after 1 quarter
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-29-19 02:47 PM - Post#295412 Very sloppy 2nd quarter by Tigers -- already taking foot off the pedal. Offense is so different w/o Littlefield and limited minutes by Alarie. These games develop bad habits -- not sure the benefit of scheduling other than easy win. Annie Meyers, third most talented Tiger, plays way too loosey goosey basketball. Coach needs to get her to play more disciplined. Cornell is beating up on St. Bonaventure at HT. Il women teams have talent.
welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788	12-29-19 03:45 PM - Post#295417 Massey's projection of 82-36 ends up being pretty close to the actual final of 77-37. Coming into today Massey had them as the #19 team in the country. The 2015 team that went 31-1 finished at #8 in the Massey Ratings. It was noted in the post game interview that Littlefield wasn't feeling well after the break, not sure if that means an illness or an injury, but doesn't sound like anything major.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-29-19 03:52 PM - Post#295419 Let's hope that Littlefield is in the starting line up at the Palestra. Connolly played great today at PG but Littlefield is one notch higher both offensively and defensively. Alarie probably played 20 minutes or so with a line of 18/11 with 3 assists and 4 blocks and she did not try that hard to score today. Although the Blake Dietrick undefeated team was very good, this year's version has the ability to play at another level with their height and defensively. They still need to improve offensively. Plus, simply put, they have Bella.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-31-19 05:03 PM - Post#295691 Tigers are now 24th Coaches Poll - 29th AP and #2 Mid-Major. It would be great if somehow they get within the top 25 in the AP Poll at some point and time. As for IL, fortunately Columbia and Harvard did not get upset last night but it was closer than it should have been. Cornell has a tough upcoming non-conference game wit #19 seed WVU and Penn has a game with top #75 Temple several weeks from now. A few websites have Tigers, Penn and Yale finishing in the top 50 year end but a long way to go. For the Tigers heading into IL season, the next game at the Palestra and a future game at Yale will be two particularly challenging games although Cornell, Columbia, and Harvard can play. Based on the strength of the IL, 11-3 probably gets them in the NCAAW Tournament but a 13-1 or better IL record, gets them to a seed where they have a fighting chance to get to the Final 16. If they take care of business during the regular season, they will not have to rely on IvyMadness. The regular season for Princeton, Penn and/or Yale could result in two bids for the IL regardless of the upcoming lunacy in Cambridge in March. Right now, Cornell and Columbia are projected at 100-125 teams and Harvard at 150. IL season will be very challenging and I am not sure if teams have been this highly ranked, men or women, in IL history.
JDP Masters Student Posts 577	12-31-19 06:31 PM - Post#295698 Happy New Years! I think the Ivy women's conference is the deepest and best I can remember in the past 30 years ... and I think it could be the best Ivy post season ever (Potentially four women's teams NCAA & NIT) ... and the men are doing well this season to keep pace Sadly while the league can have 3 top 50 teams and 3 more top 125 teams ... still the best way for a second bid would for Princeton (with a super RPI and strong NCAA tournament history) not to win madness (just my view on the clear Power 5 / Big East Bias).
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	12-31-19 08:06 PM - Post#295700 Happy New Year as well! I would gladly take a 14-0 regular season and lose IvyMadness but the IL competition is simply too challenging. You are correct that the IL will probably get the shaft in the long run regarding the NCAAW Tournament but hopefully not. Cornell almost upset #19 seed WVU on the road this afternoon which confirms how challenging the IL season will be. Hopefully, Coach Berube keeps the Tigers focused on every single IL game. To date other than the Monmouth game and a few quarters of some other games, the Tigers have been focused and they are obviously talented. Penn at the Palestra will be a gret test.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	01-06-20 05:53 PM - Post#296169 Women finally crawl into the AP poll -- #25. AP voters tend not to be big fans of mid-majors. Because the coaches poll has been a better predictor, Tigers will probably only move up one spot - 23 vs. 24, when the poll is released tomorrow. It is important for seeding purposes that the Tigers try their very best to stay within all polls. ESPN bracketologist just moved them to a #7 seed for the NCAAW Tournament away from the dreaded 8 or 9 seed. NCAA.com just named the top five women players for each position and Bella did make the list for PW with Cox from Baylor who has also been injured for a portion of the season. Bella's numbers are down somewhat this year vs. last year somewhat due to her minutes, 28.7 vs. 32.1 last year plus the Tigers are not quite as reliant on Bella as per the past although that may change in IL play.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	01-07-20 03:14 PM - Post#296209 NCAAW coaches poll came out and the Tigers are #23 -- firmly in the top 25. It was nice to see Princeton's game Saturday at the Palestra as a top 25 game at the ESPN website. A loss to Penn at the Palestra will obviously knock the Tigers out of the top 25 in all polls. On the Warren Nolan website, Penn's current RPI is 91 although Nolan projects the Quakers to go 13-1 in the IL and finish with a 25 RPI ranking, 12 behind the Tigers who are also projected to be 13-1 in IL play. Saturday's game will be very challenging and hopefully Littlefield is fully recovered as they need her with Bella.
Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2814	01-07-20 07:22 PM - Post#296213 Berube has done a great job preparing for games. If the team is healthy, Iâ€™m confident in the Tigers.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	01-08-20 08:54 PM - Post#296273 Coach Berube talked about how challenging this weekend's game will be at the Palestra. She talked about the excellence of the Penn D as well as the all around abilities of the star frosh, Padilla. Tigers to date have been able to shut down the other team's star other than Doyle - Iowa. No mention about Littlefield's injury status. Should be an extreme defensive struggle.
Tiger69 Postdoc Posts 2814	01-09-20 12:15 AM - Post#296293 I donâ€™t care for the new interviewer who is replacing Jerry Price. His questions dictate the answers he wants. Jerry always had relaxed interviews with Courtney Banghart that could evolve into any direction. Berube is always put on the defensive and has little opportunity to add any new information during her interviews. Bring back Jerry Price.
bradley PhD Student Posts 1842	01-09-20 12:39 AM - Post#296294 I agree. Believe that Price is back next week. By the way, Berube's former team is 12-0 with most games being blow outs. Top performers are upper classwomen.


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