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OldBig5
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11-11-19 06:10 PM - Post#290629    

Thought I would start a thread on the upcoming game.
Found this on their team web site. As a Big Five fan I hope they are improved this year. But not too much--at least yet.

https://goexplorers.com/news/2019/11/11/mens- baske...
penn64
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11-12-19 10:30 PM - Post#290742    

Penn opens as 9 1/2 pt favorite. Wow.
mrjames
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11-12-19 10:34 PM - Post#290743    

Kinda underestimates Penn a smidge, actually...
Charlie Fog
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11-13-19 08:04 AM - Post#290755    

wow is right. that is a huge line for a big 5 contest.
rbg
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11-13-19 10:03 AM - Post#290774    

Penn preview:
https://pennathletics.com/news/2019/11/12/mens- bas...

Game Notes:
https://pennathletics.com/documents/2019/11/12/ /3_...

Probable Starters - Brodeur, Scott, Betley, Dingle, and Goodman

Out - Wang, Charles, Mijakowski

KenPom has Penn (#118) over LaSalle (#213) 74-65
Glenflesk
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11-13-19 12:38 PM - Post#290797    

I hope that those making predictions have seen these SELECTED highlights from the LaSalle - Iona game. Not a piece of cake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r3vgI-hu4I&a mp;fe...

Silver Maple
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11-13-19 02:44 PM - Post#290805    

No Big 5 game is a piece of cake. That's what makes them so valuable in preparing for conference play. I'll be very happy if Penn can eke out a close one.
PennFan10
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11-13-19 03:06 PM - Post#290807    

Quakers in a stomp. I'm callin it. Lay the points and take the Home squad.
Cvonvorys
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Cvonvorys
11-13-19 03:40 PM - Post#290822    

I guess it depends on which Penn team shows up... The team that beat Alabama or the team that lost to Rice? My sense is that we will see both throughout this season...
palestra38
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11-13-19 03:46 PM - Post#290825    

As the old adage goes---that line is telling me something. I would never have expected it to be that high based on the performance so far. I guess someone expects that our shots will start going down at home.
dperry
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dperry
11-13-19 08:04 PM - Post#290859    

Scott with a great look to Betley steaming down the lane. Next possession runs out of clock, though.
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dperry
11-13-19 08:06 PM - Post#290861    

Ladies and gentlemen, Jordan Dingle!
David Perry
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dperry
11-13-19 08:16 PM - Post#290864    

Defense looks a lot better, but still stone-cold from 3. Between that and some missed bunnies, this could have been a wipeout by now
David Perry
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rbg
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11-13-19 08:17 PM - Post#290865    

Penn 13-8 with 10:21 left in 1st half.

Lots of guys for Penn feel comfortable shooting the 3 or going to the hoop. AJ missed a couple in close. The team continues to struggle from 3, going 1-6 so far.
10Q
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11-13-19 08:18 PM - Post#290866    

Hit a dang layup.
rbg
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11-13-19 08:25 PM - Post#290869    

Penn 15-12 with 7:54 left.

Penn shooting 35% with 13% (1-8) from 3.

Betley with 5, Goodman with 4 (2-2, both layups)
rbg
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11-13-19 08:28 PM - Post#290871    

Penn 19-12 with 6:19 left. LaSalle Timeout after two quick baskets by AJ and Betley.

Penn now 1-10 from 3.
dperry
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dperry
11-13-19 08:34 PM - Post#290872    

Not like these treys are contested, either
Bryce finally makes one.
David Perry
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10Q
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11-13-19 08:36 PM - Post#290873    

Ugly game
rbg
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11-13-19 08:36 PM - Post#290874    

Penn 22-18 with 3:09 left.

Penn shooting 34% with 15% (2-13) from 3.

Rebounds 20-14 (Penn w/ 7 offensive rebounds)

7 turnovers

Betley 7, Washington 5, Dev 4, AJ 4
rbg
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11-13-19 08:40 PM - Post#290875    

Penn 27-22 with 0:59 seconds to go. Penn timeout.

Betley with a 3. AJ with a block and putback layup on the other end.

Penn shooting 35% with 20% (3-15) from 3

Betley with 10.
rbg
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11-13-19 08:46 PM - Post#290878    

Penn 27-22 halftime.

Shooting 32% and 18% (3-17) from 3. 0-2 FT.

Rebounds Penn 26-18

7 turnovers.

Betley 10 (4-9, 2-6 from 3)
AJ 6 (3-6)
Washington 5 (2-4)
Dev 4 (2-7)
Dingle 2 (1-6)

Penn is a much better team than LaSalle. They are getting a lot of open looks. Hopefully, they go down in the 2nd half.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-13-19 08:50 PM - Post#290879    

A trend I’m seeing on the 3s in the first 2 1/2 games: there are lots of open looks, but very, very few rhythm takes. Too often guys seem to be rushing it up because they’re open, even though they’ve had to reach down or up for the pass and aren’t square to the basket and in good shooting position.

And when they’re not doing that, they’re overthinking and double-clutching—Washingt on and Goodman each have done that so far.

Really, I think only Betley on two of his takes, the one Washington make, and Martz on a miss looked like they stepped into a shot with good form.

dperry
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dperry
11-13-19 08:54 PM - Post#290880    

Easily could be 15 or 20-point lead right now. Good news is much better on defense and preventing O-boards.
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rbg
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11-13-19 09:05 PM - Post#290882    

Penn 37-27 with 17:02 to go. LaSalle timeout.

Goodman and Betley with back to back 3s. Goodman had a layup before that. Also, AJ got missed 2 layups, but got his own rebounds and eventually put it in.

Betley 13, Goodman 9, AJ 8

Rebounds 31-20 with 13 on offense
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11-13-19 09:05 PM - Post#290883    

The Betley 3 to push the lead to 10 is what we’ve not seen enough of. Good extra pass from Goodman got the ball in his hands mid-chest, and he was able to rise up square. All net.

10Q
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11-13-19 09:05 PM - Post#290884    

Bad news is bad shooting. We’ve gotten lucky on Threes.
dperry
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dperry
11-13-19 09:08 PM - Post#290885    

That's more like it. Betley getting in rhythm now.
David Perry
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10Q
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11-13-19 09:10 PM - Post#290886    

Just like that
rbg
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11-13-19 09:10 PM - Post#290887    

Penn 44-27 with 14:59 to go.

AJ, Dev and Betley are doing their things.

Betley hit another three, Dev had a driving layup and AJ muscled in for a layup.

3-4 from 3 this half. 6-21 (29%) for the night.

Betley 16 (5 rebounds), Dev 11 (5 rebounds), AJ 10 (8 rebounds)
10Q
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11-13-19 09:12 PM - Post#290888    

19-2 run
rbg
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11-13-19 09:18 PM - Post#290891    

Penn 50-36 with 11:40 to go. Penn timeout after 4 quick LaSalle points.

AJ made both free throws. Now has 14 points and 9 rebounds.

Betley with a couple of steals this half. He has 16 with 5 rebounds.

Dev with 13 points and 5 rebounds.

Overall shooting 39%, second half 53%
Overall 3 shooting 26%, second half 50%

Rebounds Penn 36-24
dperry
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dperry
11-13-19 09:18 PM - Post#290892    

AJ and Ryan back in
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Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-13-19 09:19 PM - Post#290893    

Goodman-Dingle-Simmons-Wa shington-Martz lineup a disaster.

10Q
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11-13-19 09:24 PM - Post#290894    

Simmons especially
dperry
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dperry
11-13-19 09:25 PM - Post#290895    

Bryce not staying within himself right now.
David Perry
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Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-13-19 09:25 PM - Post#290897    

Bryce Washington’s handle on the dribble not showing well last few possessions.

dperry
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dperry
11-13-19 09:34 PM - Post#290900    

Gotta work the clock more, guys!
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dperry
11-13-19 09:34 PM - Post#290901    

Refs bailed us out there.
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dperry
11-13-19 09:39 PM - Post#290903    

Why are we in such a big rush? We're ahead, for crying out loud!
David Perry
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Chip Bayers
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11-13-19 09:40 PM - Post#290904    

Dingle decision-making not the greatest on a few possessions here, the drive-stop-and-kick to Scott excepted.

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11-13-19 09:47 PM - Post#290907    

  • PennFan10 Said:
Quakers in a stomp. I'm callin it. Lay the points and take the Home squad.



But did you?

PennFan10
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11-13-19 10:07 PM - Post#290910    

Absolutely. I bet the naming rights to the law school.
palestra38
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11-13-19 11:15 PM - Post#290920    

Back from a very ugly game (although I will always take a W). The 3 seniors bailed us out by scoring virtually all the points, along with Eddie, as well as 12 straight FTs. BUT, a tremendous lack of offensive discipline cost us an opportunity to blow out a very weak LaSalle team in the first half and again after our 19-2 run in the second half. Dingle was, uh, a freshman and time after time dribbled into trouble. Same for the other freshmen, Simmons (who was particularly off) and Washington. Thankfully, we got to the rim easily and after blowing about 6 or 7 layups started hitting them and Betley finally started shooting and hitting 3s. Gregg also hit a big 3 and a big traditional 3 point play. Good news is we can play poorly and still beat teams with numbers of athletes who don't play basketball all that well. That wasn't always the case.
Streamers
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11-14-19 08:53 AM - Post#290937    

I could not attend in person, but watched the replay after I got home. Have to say this felt more like an escape against a bottom-tier Ivy team at home than the solid win the score would indicate. When you are winning nearly all the matchups on defense and getting good looks at will (the Explorer defense was pretty bad most of the time), a blowout should be the result. Instead, we let them hang around until the Seniors took matters into their own hands and put them away. On the plus side, the team D was good against an athletic opponent, Betley looked very good, and Dev started to finish like only he can. Foul shooting was decent as well. AJ had his legs at the end of the game. If this team is to beat any top 100 clubs, Dingle needs to get some assists, Bryce needs to reclaim his confidence coming off the bench, Martz has to hit his open looks and help with the rebounding, and Jarrod can’t be the liability he was last night. That last one is crucial.
nychoops
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11-14-19 09:03 AM - Post#290939    

Had a chance to attend game last night first
In quite sometime. Always a delight being around students and parents who are respectful of the school they represent as well as limiting the insults they through at the players. I’ll limit my observations and thoughts ( without betraying his trust) on Penn to Jordan. He had what everyone knew will and would happen in that he had growing pains. He’s meeting bigger bodies in the paint as he goes to finish at the rim, the 3pt line has been adjusted and the on ball defenders he’s facing are superior to in HS. He had a sulking moment after a
TO but shook it off and kept competing. He will adjust and continue to improve.
Overall had a great time and a lovely experience.
AsiaSunset
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11-14-19 09:33 AM - Post#290941    

Sort of my reaction to the game although I'm reluctant to draw conclusions after 3 early season games.

I do wonder about an impact of the extended 3 point line on a Penn team that likes to shoot the 3. Makes me wonder if zone defenses will be more prevalent as we progress into the meat of the schedule. Again - it's still early.
10Q
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11-14-19 10:11 AM - Post#290943    

Other than the 19-2 run, this was really bad. The bench gave us almost nothing positive. But lots of signs that this can be a good year as the freshmen develop. Looks like this may be the best Penn FT shooting team in years, which is not saying much. Top of the cycle. Beat Princeton.
weinhauers_ghost
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11-14-19 11:02 AM - Post#290952    

  • Streamers Said:
I could not attend in person, but watched the replay after I got home. Have to say this felt more like an escape against a bottom-tier Ivy team at home than the solid win the score would indicate. When you are winning nearly all the matchups on defense and getting good looks at will (the Explorer defense was pretty bad most of the time), a blowout should be the result. Instead, we let them hang around until the Seniors took matters into their own hands and put them away. On the plus side, the team D was good against an athletic opponent, Betley looked very good, and Dev started to finish like only he can. Foul shooting was decent as well. AJ had his legs at the end of the game. If this team is to beat any top 100 clubs, Dingle needs to get some assists, Bryce needs to reclaim his confidence coming off the bench, Martz has to hit his open looks and help with the rebounding, and Jarrod can’t be the liability he was last night. That last one is crucial.



I caught the game on ESPN+, and I had very similar thoughts. We looked out of sync for long stretches of the first half, and the lineups in which more than one member of the senior class was being rested looked as if they just weren't ready, or hadn't played together. Simmons has got to step up and play better consistently, or we are going to be in trouble against opponents whose front lines are bigger than ours is.

Shooting from three point range was better in the second half, but needs to improve and be more consistent.

10Q
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11-14-19 11:12 AM - Post#290956    

Not having any trustworthy bigs behind Brodeur is an enormous issue.

Teams are going to push the ball inside and try to tire/foul him out.
Streamers
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11-14-19 11:29 AM - Post#290961    

  • 10Q Said:
Not having any trustworthy bigs behind Brodeur is an enormous issue.

Teams are going to push the ball inside and try to tire/foul him out.


Several Ivy teams are well equipped to do exactly this.

Thanks to nychoops for his comments and glad to see he enjoyed the trip. Honestly, I think nobody is surprised that Dingle is getting defensive attention at this point and his reactions will be freshman-level erratic. I expect he will settle in nicely by the time he sees Tiger Orange. Having Dev on the team as an example has to help, especially the way he hits the boards. Dingle has the potential to bring that same level of game, at then some with his size, to this program for 4 years.
Quakers03
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11-14-19 11:40 AM - Post#290964    

As everyone else said, that was very ugly, but we still won by double digits. My takeaways were that this is a very bad LaSalle team. Penn has decided to fire away at will all season, whether on drives to the hoop or from the deeper 3 point line. It's not a coincidence that some of their only 3-point makes came after an extra pass. As Chip mentioned, so many times they are off kilter and just not taking good shots. They are going to desperately need someone else to step up and score, especially from 3, or we're going to have some very ugly games this year. I think everyone hoped it could be Bryce after the losses of Charles and Wang, but he's not there yet. Jordan continues to go where he wants, but his finishing will have to come in time and he does need to look to facilitate a little more. However I do think he'd have more assists if we could make some 3s. Lucas continues to be a good athlete but man is that shot ugly. I knew it would be a challenge when I didn't see him take one last year while watching him in-person, but it's going to need some work. The shame is he can probably get a lot of open looks thanks to the way he plays.

It's so nice to see AJ with touch at the free throw line. When in the world would he have had a front rim free throw fall in softly in the past? It is a noticeable improvement. Obviously the biggest takeaway was Betley finding some shooting rhythm. To say that we'll need it is an understatement. I can't believe we don't get another home "game" until Widener.
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11-14-19 02:40 PM - Post#290997    

  • Quakers03 Said:
As everyone else said, that was very ugly, but we still won by double digits. My takeaways were that this is a very bad LaSalle team.


It's WAY better than last year's LaSalle team and will improve over the course of the season.
Quakers03
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11-14-19 04:12 PM - Post#291005    

Maybe I should have added "young" to my statement. They looked very young, as did we at some points.

Comments like this one from Jensen's article always make me laugh

  • Quote:
There's almost no time when it's acceptable for any respectable program to lose to an Ivy League school. La Salle may get better as the season goes on, but this is a BAD loss.



Streamers
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11-14-19 04:36 PM - Post#291009    

Wow, Jensen should know better. That LaSalle team would be a dog on the road against ANY ivy team not named Cornell.
palestra38
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11-14-19 04:54 PM - Post#291010    

IT'S NOT JENSEN--it's Angry Al, a poster and notorious loudmouth caller to WIP
Quakers03
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11-14-19 05:45 PM - Post#291017    

Correct. Mike would never utter such nonsense. He has some great Penn memories like the rest of us. I was assuming it was just someone using that handle and not the actual dopey caller.
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11-14-19 06:40 PM - Post#291028    

Really interesting to see your comments. I wasn't able to watch much live, so I avoided the board until after I could watch full game. I knew the score going into it though so was more relaxed viewing experience.

That said, I actually felt the offense flowed a lot better in general (especially the starting 5), more extra passes, some nice passes that didn't get converted to buckets. Biggest thing from my seat was the continued subpar shooting (and agree with others that even open shots felt rushed). Not to mention we DESTROYED them on the boards, so it seemed like the guys took our pummeling in the first two games to heart and stepped up on that front.

I felt more positive out of it than you guys because frankly this team is going to go as far as seniors go, and they were all great in this one.

Absolutely we will need help from the bench to truly succeed, but I have to think Washington will get on track. I actually liked his play most of the game except for this 2 really bad dribbling moments. He hit the boards, had a nice couple of steels, finally drilled a 3. If Donahue can get him comfortable off the bench and shooting, that will be huge.

I also like what we have seen from Eddie Scott so far, but this is new for him so feel like if he gets comfortable he can add more as a starter. Same for Max Martz off the bench. He hasn't scored yet, but he looks like a high IQ kid who can add something he hasn't yet.

Then nice to haves would be if we can get anything from Mike Wang or Jonah Charles by Ivy season... shame especially for Charles since I didn't know he was doing THAT well in early scrimmages.
TheLine
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11-14-19 06:43 PM - Post#291029    

I watched LaSalle's first game. They are a team we should have beaten but they didn't look awful.


Quakers03
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11-14-19 06:50 PM - Post#291030    

Sounds like maybe we got from them what we gave to Rice. A bad performance off of a big win. It's interesting how often the "ebb and flow" of the season comes into play when it comes to the timing of matchups. For instance, Rice had missed its last 23 3-pointers (they hit their first 2 of the season and didn't hit one again) so was it a coincidence that they shot well against us? The good news is that our 3-point shooting can only go up from here.
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11-14-19 07:58 PM - Post#291041    

  • palestra38 Said:
IT'S NOT JENSEN--it's Angry Al, a poster and notorious loudmouth caller to WIP


Sorry. I read it too quickly.

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11-15-19 12:30 AM - Post#291062    

  • Quakers03 Said:

It's so nice to see AJ with touch at the free throw line. When in the world would he have had a front rim free throw fall in softly in the past? It is a noticeable improvement.



No question that his form was better, and he maintained it through both shots in each trip. Last year, he would make the first shot, then lose his concentration for the second.
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11-15-19 12:41 AM - Post#291064    

After three games we can clearly see the dynamic of this season. Penn has three splendid seniors who will keep them competitive in most games and will beat flawed teams like LaSalle. Five years ago we would be moaning about an 0-3 start. Not this year.

Expectations now revolve about the play of the supporting cast. In Dingle it looks like a big upside. In Wang and perhaps Jonah Charles it looks like a health issue. In Bryce, Eddie, and Simmons it looks like a matter of development, although with Simmons we have yet to see any hints of real capability. Finally in Lucas M, Max M, and Max LL, it looks like a test of their athletic potential on the bigger college stage.

It is fully reasonable to expect that enough of our hope for the supporting cast will come through to make Penn a contender, perhaps even good enough to challenge Harvard, as we saw in Tuscaloosa when Jordon went off.

I am as much interested to see how many of the supporting cast show stardom potential, because we will need that after this wonderful trio of seniors graduates.

This situation reminds me of several of the Allen years when it appeared that there was a deep collection of sufficient talent. In that case, however, the talent never emerged. Have we over estimated the roster again? I suggest that the record of the three seniors is sufficient to indicate that the talent is better and much more able to develop. I will be watching Dingle closely over the next month as he seems to have the ability to contribute as a freshman rapidly as AJ and Betley did. The others will take time.

All in all a good start!

P.S. The most dramatic story of the early season is on the women's side. The rookie, Kayla Padilla is averaging 24.5 per game including .500+ from three and has 6 assists to one turnover.
AsiaSunset
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11-15-19 10:15 AM - Post#291084    

I agree with you about the importance of developing that supporting cast. I watched the Harvard game last night. They played without 3 big names (Towns, Aiken and Kirkwood). While Towns contribution this year is uncertain, Aiken and Kirkwood are likely to be key players. While Harvard did not play a fantastic game, they beat a decent Siena team with limited contributions from their experienced seniors, Juzang and Lewis. Instead - their freshmen looked very good as did the others coming off the bench. They are scary deep.

I'm not sure how our 3 seniors can do it without major contributions from bench players as we move into the meat of our schedule. Supposedly we are deeper than in past years, but that has yet to be proven.
Silver Maple
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11-15-19 12:54 PM - Post#291097    

Depth will be key to success this season (as it usually is). That being the case, I'm glad to see so many players, particularly the newbies, getting a lot of minutes early on. Donahue is clearly working to be able to go at least 4-5 players into his bench.

One of the things that always frustrated me about Dunphy was his steadfast refusal to try to develop a bench beyond 1-2 players. It didn't hurt the team in conference play, but I'm positive it's one of the reasons his teams had so little success out of conference and in the postseason.
10Q
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11-15-19 01:19 PM - Post#291104    

We have no apparent depth in the Bigs Dept. One or two guys are going to have to step up and take on major minutes without a major dropoff.
palestra38
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11-15-19 01:19 PM - Post#291105    

We have a freshman big man---it's just going to take time. Wang would help, if he will ever be healthy
10Q
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11-15-19 01:28 PM - Post#291107    

Like I said, no apparent depth. Just potential. Hoping one or both can help AJ.
Condor
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11-16-19 10:42 AM - Post#291185    

Looking at the players based on the stats to date only (obviously a very small sample size), here would be my notes:

Brodeur: Cut down on TO’s

Betley: Basically keep doing what you are doing while improving overall game

Goodman: Work on 3 pt shot

Dingle: Work on 3 pt shot and FT’s. His numbers are not horrible, but hopefully will be better

Scott: Basically keep doing what you are doing while improving overall game

Washington: Work on 3 pt shot, reduce TO’s & PF’s. I think he is just getting accustom to new role.

Monroe: Work on 3 pt shot and FT’s.

Simmons: Cut down on TO’s & PF’s while trying to get more rebounds. Obviously, this is not necessarily an easy fix. I am ok with his offense.

The other guys are TBD.

I haven't seen all the games to decide if the stats match the eyes.

SomeGuy
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11-16-19 12:09 PM - Post#291192    

On the Bryce point about learning a new position/role, what was Charles’ role when he was lighting up practices? Is he a combo who can slot in behind Dingle and Goodman? If so, he may solve the problem that we seem to struggle unless we have both guards on the floor.

Bryce certainly had the bench fired up with his play early against Lasalle. He hit a 3 and made a couple of hustle plays that got the bench on their feet yelling. Seemed to get out of his comfort zone after that, though. The effort seems to be there, so I think he’ll figure it out.
weinhauers_ghost
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11-16-19 08:36 PM - Post#291233    

  • SomeGuy Said:
On the Bryce point about learning a new position/role, what was Charles’ role when he was lighting up practices? Is he a combo who can slot in behind Dingle and Goodman? If so, he may solve the problem that we seem to struggle unless we have both guards on the floor.

Bryce certainly had the bench fired up with his play early against Lasalle. He hit a 3 and made a couple of hustle plays that got the bench on their feet yelling. Seemed to get out of his comfort zone after that, though. The effort seems to be there, so I think he’ll figure it out.



I seem to recall having read something about Washington having been more of a slasher in high school, and having to make the transition to being a spot-up shooter last year. Could be he's still trying to figure out how to balance those aspects of his game with his role this year.
Condor
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11-19-19 10:06 AM - Post#291437    

Last year Washington played in 30 games with OR% of 107.1 (DR% 99.6) that included a .411 FG%, a .398 3FG%, and a .829 FT% while logging 626 minutes (well past the Gensler magic number of 400) that included 30 GP and 22 GS. Based on the numbers, he was the best 3pt & FT shooter on the team. Also, next to Scott, he was our best rebounding guard with Reb% of 9.1. He didn’t play much at the end of last season, but before that he was very effective. It is early in the season, so we’ll just have to see how Washington and the rest of the players figure things out.
OldBig5
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11-27-19 04:15 PM - Post#292542    

Lasalle has beaten Murray State and Wright State in their tourney. So maybe they are not awful this year.
palestra38
Professor
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11-27-19 05:58 PM - Post#292556    

They are very young and a work in progress. Playing them early at the Palestra was a good thing for Penn.
OldBig5
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11-28-19 08:55 PM - Post#292618    

  • palestra38 Said:
They are very young and a work in progress. Playing them early at the Palestra was a good thing for Penn.

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Won their tourney.




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