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PeteD
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01-21-23 09:06 PM - Post#349992    

Another convincing win for the Lady Lions today, 94-74 over Brown. Four starters in double figures, led by Hsu's 26 (7 for 11 from behind the arc).

Hsu is the current NCAA leader in 3-pointers made per game (3.58). And now 7th all-time in Ivy history in total 3-pointers made (241).

KD tweaked her ankle late in the game (landed on another player's foot), so hope she won't be out of commission for long.

Current Ivy Standings:
Columbia 5-1
Penn 5-1
Princeton 4-2
Harvard 4-2
Yale 4-2

Next Game: Saturday, Jan 28 vs Dartmouth at Levien
PeteD
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01-24-23 07:02 AM - Post#350136    

The Lions are roaring...

- 3rd in the nation in 3PM per game (9.8)
- 5th in assists (19.8)
- 11th in scoring (81.9 points per game)
- 12th in 3P% (37.4%)
- 19th in O-rebounds per game (15.2)
Chet Forte
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01-24-23 09:48 AM - Post#350143    

The stunning success of the WBB program speaks volumes as to the dismal failure of the MBB program—and underscores the difference that coaching makes. Both programs have the same physical facilities, the same academic standards, the same recruiting standards,and yet one program is a smashing success and the other is approaching Mangurian status. O mores! O tempora!

ToothlessTiger
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01-24-23 10:59 AM - Post#350149    

Princeton was extremely fortunate to get into OT against the Lions, easily the best team in the League. Tigers had to play one of their defensive gems that night and did, but it still wasn't enough. It is possible these teams will meet for a third time in the tournament. After attending the first game I promise you a ticket to the tourney will be worth the price just for this matchup.
PeteD
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01-24-23 03:45 PM - Post#350165    

Indeed… seems that Princeton and Columbia are on a collision course for a third meeting in March.

Both Penn and Princeton found ways to lock up the high-scoring Lion offense late in regulation… CU was held to 2 points in the final 3 1/2 mins at Jadwin, and held scoreless in the final 3 1/2 mins at the Palestra.

Columbia very easily could have ended up 0-2 on that road trip.
cc66
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01-24-23 04:42 PM - Post#350167    

True, but several other points provide needed context.

1) We did beat Princeton at Princeton, and though they held us to 58 pts, we held them to 55, which is far below their season average.

2) Penn caught us at Penn less than 24 hrs after a 45 minute OT victory at Princeton. This isn't meant to suggest that Penn did not play well; the difference is that this time, we play them at home on a Friday, when back-to-back is less likely to be a factor.

3) The back to back we do get is Princeton on the second night--sure to be a very tough game, but Princeton has Cornell the night before, and the longest trip in the IL should help to move the needle a bit in our direction.
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01-24-23 06:03 PM - Post#350168    

As always, your comments are very well taken. Yes, the bus trip to frigid Ithaca in the middle of winter is always difficult for the visiting team, and for a variety of reasons the trip back can be much worse. Yes, Penn enjoyed the usual home team advantage when it played Columbia. Not only that, but for whatever reason, the home team advantage seems greater at the Palestra than any other arena in the Ivy League.
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01-24-23 09:14 PM - Post#350174    

Re the Palestra, the disparity in trips to the FT line was laughable. Penn played well against our five; we played well against their 8.

PeteD
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01-24-23 10:25 PM - Post#350179    

The Penn game was not at all decided by the refs imo. I re-watched the final 4 mins. After Jaida Patrick’s layup with 3:40 left, Columbia went 0 for 9 from the field (0 for 3 from deep, 0 for 6 within 4-8 feet. Most of the missed shots near the rim were due to the presence of the 6’-4” Floor Toonders. She was a defensive force and a big reason why Penn won the game.

I didn’t see any egregious calls and didn’t see Griffith complain either. There was a blocking foul called on Pratt with about a minute left that maybe could have been called a charge on Penn’s Obi. That was the only one that could have gone the other way.
Columbia 37P6
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01-25-23 11:41 AM - Post#350194    

I missed the Columbia-Penn Game #1, but our man, Chet Forte, has noted that there was a huge disparity in the amount of fouls the refs called on the two respective teams throughout the game not just in the last four minutes. So for the rematch at Columbia, what you said about the 6'4" Toonders being a force underneath has to be dealt with by the Lions.
Chet Forte
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01-26-23 09:18 AM - Post#350230    

I don’t have the box score handy but my recollection is that Penn shot something like 21 FTs to our 3.

PeteD
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01-28-23 04:23 AM - Post#350327    

  • Chet Forte Said:
I don’t have the box score handy but my recollection is that Penn shot something like 21 FTs to our 3.


That’s correct. And it wasn’t due to hometown officiating imo. Jordan Obi is good at getting to the line, aggressive in attacking the basket… a Charles Barkley or LeBron James kinda player. And Penn did a nice job at defending inside without fouling… credit to Floor Toonders.

Total fouls: Columbia 17, Penn 11… but 2 of those Lion fouls came in the final 10 sec when they fouled intentionally.

Rematch next Friday night. I’m expecting a different outcome. Griffith is good at getting the team ready for revenge games.
PeteD
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01-28-23 04:25 AM - Post#350328    

The line for today’s game vs Dartmouth is 35 1/2. When was the last time Columbia was a 5 touchdown favorite over the Big Green?
cc66
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01-28-23 09:06 AM - Post#350329    

The score will probably be a bit less than that. Griffith will play the first team for just twenty minutes or soon as a tune up, and then finish the game with the subs. Whether they can beat Dartmouth by 35 is a open question.
Columbia 37P6
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01-28-23 02:54 PM - Post#350347    

The Columbia Women Bssketball is leading Dartmouth at halftime 45-25 thanks mostly to the terrific play of Abbey Hsu and Kaitlin Davis. Columbia is without its starting point guard Kitty Henderson. The announcer stated that "she is nursing a foot injury," but neglected to inform us whether she is likely to return for the Penn and Princeton games next weekend. Is anyone else having trouble with the video transmission on ESPN+? So far Columbia or ESPn has lost the transmission six times. The flag is "We are unable the video at this moment. Please try again later." What is going on? Is it the Columbia Athletic Department's fault or ESPN+, or a combination of the two. Whoever is messing up, needs to correct problem before the Princeton-Penn weekend.
cc66
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01-28-23 03:04 PM - Post#350348    

Yes, that happened to me too, so much so that I switched to the men's game, where the outcome was slightly less of a foregone conclusion, and we are tied at half-time 33-33.

Let's Griffith is just playing it safe with Henderson, because we really do need her for next weekend.
PeteD
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01-28-23 04:24 PM - Post#350361    

Columbia 79-50. KD with the first triple double in program history (19 pts, 12 reb, 10 assists). Hsu went 5/8 from behind the arc, and the Lions collected 24 assists. Kudos to Griffith for not allowing them to overlook this game with the weekend of the year only six days away.

With Penn’s loss to Harvard, the Lions are now in sole possession of first.

Columbia 6-1
Princeton 5-2
Harvard 5-2
Penn 5-2
Yale 4-3
Cornell 2-5
Brown 1-6
Dartmouth 0-7
cc66
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01-28-23 11:11 PM - Post#350443    

Griffith said in the postgame interview that she was just resting Henderson, and that Henderson will be back next week.

We're going to need her. In retrospect, the loss to Penn looks like an anomaly, so we should win Friday night. But Princeton has cohered over the last 5 games, and we have to hope they arrive tired from their Cornell trip. It's going to take one of our better performances to beat them.
Columbia 37P6
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01-29-23 12:00 AM - Post#350445    


It seems like the four post-season tournament teams will be in alphabetical order, Columbia, Harvard, Penn and Princeton. Yale has an outside shot at the tournament, if one of the four collapses.
PeteD
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01-31-23 10:50 PM - Post#350564    

When was the last time Penn & Princeton came to Levien this late in the Ivy season with Columbia in first?

Get your tickets now if you want to be there… the Princeton game is nearly sold out… less than 100 seats available on www.gocolumbialions.com.
Columbia 37P6
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01-31-23 11:35 PM - Post#350566    

Most important weekend of Columbia basketball since the 1960's. Save your ticket stubs, They will be very valuable someday
PeteD
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02-04-23 02:56 PM - Post#350774    

T-minus 60 minutes to the battle that we’ve been waiting for. A Lion win today will just about lock up first place for the regular season… something that no Columbia basketball team has done since Levien opened nearly 50 years ago.
cc66
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02-04-23 03:31 PM - Post#350777    

Agreed! After today, the only remotely challenging game is Harvard away. Since we won by 26 at Levien, even the HCA should still yield a victory by a comfortable margin.

About today: I don't know whether you saw it, but talking about Princeton in the Penn postgame, Griffith actually said that Columbia was the better team. I have never seen a coach say that so explicitly about an opponent. Although it was good to hear as a statement of confidence, as a potential motivating strategy for Princeton, I am not sure it was so wise.
Columbia 37P6
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02-04-23 03:47 PM - Post#350779    

Yes, this is exciting -- I am counting on the Greek Gods to make it happen. Go Lions!!!!!!
cc66
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02-04-23 04:54 PM - Post#350784    

Horrible first half--down 36-21. Lots of Columbia fouls, many missed lay-ups--just one of those games where even the routine plays don't go right.

It will take a minor miracle to pull this one out.
PeteD
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02-04-23 05:00 PM - Post#350785    

The Lions offense in the half court looks horrible, no movement combined with good defense by the Tigers. We’ll need to get up some shots in transition to get back into it (and get the fans into it). They’ll make a comeback, but 15 might be too much to overcome.
cc66
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02-04-23 06:07 PM - Post#350788    

74-56. Nothing went right.

We'll probably be in a three way tie with Harvard and Princeton at 7-2. Beat Harvard in two weeks, and we'll have to face Princeton at Princeton in the tournament.
Albert08
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02-04-23 06:11 PM - Post#350789    

Princeton fans will be looking forward to listening to Coach Griffith's postgame presser tonight. Maybe she'll select her words a little more carefully.
PeteD
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02-04-23 07:00 PM - Post#350798    

Well, I think it's clear... the spy balloon got in our eyes! Kidding aside, that was deja vu all over again... pretty much a carbon copy of all three games last year.

It's back to the drawing board for Griffith... Berube took away the 3-pointer and the Lions didn't have an answer. The Lions were a step slow all day... they looked like the team who took a 5-hour bus ride from Ithaca last night.

This loss was a double whammy... a blow to their momentum, but this will hurt their chances for an at-large bid if they don't win the Ivy tournament.
Chet Forte
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02-04-23 08:01 PM - Post#350825    

We were outplayed and also IMHO outcoached. We came out flat and when we fell behind started to play out of control. Bad passes, one pass too many, not able to stay with Chen’s speed, and most importantly terrible shooting. They moved our best 3 point shooter away from her comfort zone and as a result she was largely ineffective. I still harbored a faint hope that we would turn it on in the final quarter but Princeton is too good to let that happen. PS, an elderly Princeton fan was out of control—screaming at the refs, etc., making the evening even more unpleasant than it otherwise was.

Chet Forte
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02-04-23 08:03 PM - Post#350826    

And on the men’s side I caught the second half on ESPN. Our lack of a front court presence was once more our undoing. This season can’t end soon enough.

penn nation
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02-04-23 08:26 PM - Post#350834    

How in the blazes did you beat Yale? The rest of the league would like to know.
Columbia 37P6
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02-04-23 09:29 PM - Post#350842    

Fair question penn nation. The answer is that the Yale probably missed what everyone else knows by now, namely that the Columbia's frontcourt players cannot match up with their Ivy League opponents. Columbia has some very talented guards, but no complete players up front. One guy is good on offense, but not defense, and vice versa. Credit the coach for somehow keeping his job with only 18 Ivy League wins in five years.
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02-04-23 10:07 PM - Post#350850    

Sad to say, but it seems obvious by now that anyone who thought Columbia's Men's Basketball Team would be competitive this year was wrong. So once again the Lions are playing out the schedule with the likely ending being another 1-13 record in the Ivy League. This weekend did nothing that would reasonably change anyone's mind about the future of the Columbia Men's Basketball Program. Engles' record now is 18-57 in the Ivy League and 45-113 overall including the two wins this years over Division III Vassar and SUNY Maritime.
Tiger69
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02-04-23 11:42 PM - Post#350861    

I was surprised at the ease with which the Tiger Women won today. Credit Coach Berube and her consistent game after game defense as well as the constant movement of the ball on offense. I do not expect Columbia to fall so easily in the ILT. But, regardless of the performance of the Lions there, they have earned the right to an NCAA bid. I will be pulling for them against anyone but the Tigers.
Chet Forte
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02-05-23 07:59 AM - Post#350876    

When Harding dropped off the team we lost a strong front court presence. Tavroff tries hard but lacks offensive skills; Stankard is very hesitant and plays without confidence. Bedri and Livingston do not have the strength to play in the front court. So we have a couple of nice back court guys with decent size but that isn’t enough. And for reasons unbeknownst to me at least I can hear it now from the administration: “While we are disappointed in the WL record we made significant progress with our very young team and look forward to next season with Jim Engles at the helm.”

palestra38
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02-05-23 09:39 AM - Post#350890    

While certainly, an argument can be made that Engles has had enough time to put together a team and has failed, the time to have made the change was last year. This year, his top 5 scorers are a soph and 4 freshmen. There is talent, but raw talent. No one wins in this league with a lineup like that (although it explains the one-out win over Yale). Firing Engles now might well lose a couple of those guys and you end up with another start to a rebuilding process.
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02-05-23 10:20 AM - Post#350913    

Judge for yourself:

https://gocolumbialions.com/watch/?Archive=6671&a m...
ToothlessTiger
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02-05-23 11:51 AM - Post#350926    

I am an elderly Princeton fan who watched the broadcast. I saw little to challenge as far as the officiating was concerned. It was great to learn that the crowd was the largest in Lion women's history. Proves that fans will support women's hoops.The Tigers defended well in both games. Difference yesterday was the Tiger offense. Really on a roll since St. Rose began to produce.
The Tigers got a second bid when Penn beat them for the title in what was the last or next to last season before the ILT. This Columbia team compares well with that Tiger team.
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02-05-23 11:52 AM - Post#350927    

All in all not a bad press conference. Where I might take issue is the statement that we “folded”. I think we were too tight and it showed with the missed shots and ill-advised passes and drives into traffic. My own observation about the loss is that we never seemed to find a way to get Hsu open looks. Quite a swing from blowing out a good Penn team and them on the very next day losing pretty badly against an admittedly very good Princeton team.

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sparman
02-05-23 11:59 AM - Post#350928    

You and I have somewhat different impressions.
SecS3
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02-05-23 12:14 PM - Post#350932    

At least she didn't blame the loss on lack of effort or not wanting it bad enough. BTW, Abby HSu is now 12-48 from three in her career against Princeton.
Albert08
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02-05-23 12:32 PM - Post#350935    

But she did say that it was a "must-win" game for Princeton - but apparently not for Columbia-, so that implies that Princeton wanted it more than Columbia did.
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02-05-23 12:37 PM - Post#350936    

After getting soundly defeated on her home court in front of a sold-out crowd I was expecting Coach Griffiths to spend a little more time giving credit to the performance of her opponent. Instead, she said Princeton "knew they had to win this game", which minimized the fact that the Lions were outplayed. And didn't Columbia come in knowing they needed to beat the 4-time defending champions?

And this, according to cc66 above, after saying the night before that Columbia "was the better team."

That was clearly not the case last night.
Chet Forte
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02-05-23 03:57 PM - Post#350955    

I didn’t hear Coach G say that, and it doesn’t sound like her. I have said before that Princeton deserved to win; they were more poised and made their shots. I disagree that we came out flat. I think we came out much too tight.

Chet Forte
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02-05-23 04:02 PM - Post#350957    

I stand corrected; looks like she said it.

LocalTiger
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02-05-23 04:16 PM - Post#350958    

That was classy, Chet. They are both good teams, and IO hope
they both make the NCAA.
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02-05-23 04:47 PM - Post#350964    

  • SecS3 Said:
At least she didn't blame the loss on lack of effort or not wanting it bad enough. BTW, Abby Hsu is now 12-48 from three in her career against Princeton.


Lots to unpack w/ the game and the press conference... even last year when it was crystal that Princeton was heads and shoulders better, Griffith never admitted it... maybe to keep her team's confidence up? Last night, she talked about "executing better" and Hsu said they didn't play "Columbia basketball". They can say all they want, but it's clear they need a different game plan if they meet again in March.

Columbia had a season-low 8 assists! That's not due to a lack of execution! That's due to Berube making it very difficult for Columbia to do what they wanted to do. Case in point about Hsu not shooting well... Cunningham was in her face and the Tigers hovered around the 3-pt arc all game long. But Griffith made it too easy for Princeton... just look at Hsu's movement without the ball. There wasn't any! I think Hsu had one back door layup the entire game.

While Princeton's D was very good, they got away with occupying the 3-pt shooter's landing area at least a couple times in the 1st half... once on Pratt, once on Hsu. Griffith would be wise to get in the ref's ear next time about that.

Not too surprising to hear the Lions were only minus 3 with KD on the floor. They will not be able to beat Princeton if KD is on the bench for > 5 minutes. So, she MUST stay out of foul trouble. Ditto for Patrick... her defense is one of the keys to Columbia's success. If Griffith has to go deep into the bench, we're in trouble. Carly Rivera gets torched on D... it's almost like 4 against 5.

Speaking of the bench, Griffith mentioned Perri Page and they'll "find out more" soon. Page was hobbling around in street clothes, but NOT on crutches, which was a pleasant surprise. I hope she'll be able to play some games in March... sending good thoughts her way.
cc66
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02-05-23 05:27 PM - Post#350969    

Thanks for clarifying Griffith's comment about Page. I heard her post-game and didn't know exactly what it meant. But if she was hobbling around without crutches, maybe it's just a strain, and she can return reasonably soon.

I am still not sure exactly what happened yesterday, though I knew a minute and half in when layups bounced around the rim and then out that this was going to be one of those `regression to the mean' games, and on the downside, to offset everything going so well the previous night. We've had two games vs. Princeton so far, scoring, in regulation at least, 53 and 56 points. So it is not so much that Princeton's defense was significantly better, as it is that their offense has improved. Device a different game plan, get Hsu her shots, keep both KD and Henderson (instead of Rivera) in there, and maybe in the IL tourney, regression to the mean will revert to the upside.
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02-05-23 09:23 PM - Post#351000    

I agree with all the posted comments, and was not at the game in person, so I am uncertain about a few things. My only question, however, is whether the "hometown crowd," as large and enthusiastic as it seemed from afar, was a plus or a minus for the Lions in the early part of the game. I have seen many times before situations where the home team crowd makes no impact on the game and this seemed to be what was happening in the crucial early minutes of the games I had the impression that the Columbia players were understandably surprised that the refs called on Columbia a preponderance of the early fouls and that unsettled them badly. Having to play without Davis and Patrick early in the game was not something anyone really expected, Certainly there was no "Palestra effect" at Levien last night as the refs simply called several key fouls very early in the game against the home team. We all know how difficult it is to make the right call in basketball between a "charge" and a "block." So I am not blaming the refs for the loss--Princeton clearly outplayed Columbia--, but simply asking if the large hometown crowd had any impact on the game.
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02-05-23 11:19 PM - Post#351015    

I wasn’t there in person, but the crowd seemed fantastic w/ tons of energy… don’t see how it could have been a negative in any way. I think Chet was there, so he or others could chime in more about that.

I was watching the Gonzaga at St Mary’s game last night… the SMC gym reminds me of Levien… it was jam-packed too and helped the home team complete its comeback.

Lastly, I saw some bad calls (from my point of view) that favored both sides.
CM
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02-06-23 07:11 AM - Post#351017    

Berube has proven herself to be a very astute coach who makes great adjustments during the season. While Penn played right into Columbia's strength friday night by coming out in a 2-3 zone, allowing the Lions to get open 3s and a ton of offensive boards, Princeton pressed up on Hsu and clogged passing lanes. Columbia had 22 assists against Penn and only 8 against Princeton.

Berube is smart enough to know if the athletically superior Lions get into transition the game is lost (something the Penn coach apparently never figured out, surrendering 30 transition pts friday!). So we can all hope for a rubber match in Ivy tournament finals.
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02-06-23 11:54 AM - Post#351041    

Re Griffiths's remark that Pr "had to win" the game, I of course can't know what she may have intended, but the rather obvious meaning was that since Pr was a game behind CU coming into the game, if Pr had lost it was unlikely that it would have been able to catch up to CU in the standings.

Re the home crowd: it was very enthusiastic to start but was then quickly taken out of the game with the early calls and Pr jumping ahead early. I suspect that if the game had been close throughout, the crowd would have played a bigger role.

FWIW, Page came into the gym on crutches and later abandoned them.
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02-06-23 12:09 PM - Post#351042    

I was there and thought that the refs were ok; both sides had some calls go against them but there was certainly no Palestra effect for the home team. I just think we were outplayed and outcoached and don’t like hearing that we didn’t follow the game plan. Princeton locked down Hsu by pushing her off her usual landing spot and she was unable to find a way to get open looks. Plus we missed a lot of easy buckets early in the game while Princeton was making its shots.

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02-06-23 12:11 PM - Post#351043    

PS, who was the elderly Princeton fan sitting about 10 or 15 rows behind the Princeton bench? He was so out of control screaming at the refs that I thought we would need EMT for him.

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02-06-23 08:34 PM - Post#351078    

  • Chet Forte Said:
PS, who was the elderly Princeton fan sitting about 10 or 15 rows behind the Princeton bench? He was so out of control screaming at the refs that I thought we would need EMT for him.


Had to be Berube’s father or ToothlessTiger
Old Bear
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02-06-23 08:39 PM - Post#351079    

He might have been a Penn fan who went to wrong game.
Chet Forte
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02-07-23 12:06 PM - Post#351111    

More likely a Penn fan who showed up for the wrong game. Not sure why he was decked out in Princeton swag.

palestra38
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02-08-23 09:19 AM - Post#351162    

Penn fans just love Halloween colors.
ToothlessTiger
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02-08-23 09:48 AM - Post#351163    

Berube's father is a classy guy who would not ever do anything to embarrass his daughter or himself in this way. The other guy you mention? Not so sure, although in this case he was 150 miles away enjoying the broadcast and not seeing much to criticize in the officiating. The rubber match in this series will be something to see!
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02-08-23 10:27 PM - Post#351196    

  • ToothlessTiger Said:
Berube's father is a classy guy who would not ever do anything to embarrass his daughter or himself in this way. The other guy you mention? Not so sure, although in this case he was 150 miles away enjoying the broadcast and not seeing much to criticize in the officiating. The rubber match in this series will be something to see!


My attempt at humor wasn’t obvious. You’re one of the most even-tempered members of the forum and I enjoy reading your posts. What little I’ve seen of coach Berube, she seems very levelheaded, so one would not expect her father to be the crazy Princeton fan that Chet described.
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02-09-23 10:10 AM - Post#351225    

Based upon the way they were socializing during warm-ups it looks as if Berube and Griffith actually have a very friendly relationship. So I would not assume that Griffith’s passionate desire to excel is tantamount to a personal animus toward Princeton WBB. Quite the contrary.

ToothlessTiger
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02-09-23 10:29 AM - Post#351227    

I appreciate the comment. I enjoy posting and reading on this forum, especially the fights that break out over on the Penn board
ToothlessTiger
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02-09-23 10:37 AM - Post#351228    

Megan was an assistant at Princeton under Banghart. I found her to be personable, very smart and very intense. Berube is not outwardly emotional, especially during games because she is too disciplined to allow herself to be distracted. Both are professionals in the best sense of the word. I don't know how close they are but neither harbors bad feelings toward the other. They respect each other highly.
CM
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02-09-23 11:04 AM - Post#351229    

The Princeton coaching tree now occupies 4 of the 8 Ivy HC positions. That is no accident.
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02-11-23 03:42 AM - Post#351300    

A win today vs Yale virtually locks up an Ivy Madness spot for Columbia... it would reduce their magic number to 1... one Yale loss or one Columbia win (if they win today) would make it official.

In other news this week, Abbey Hsu was named one of the ten semi-finalist for the Mid-Major POY award.
https://gocolumbialions.com/news/2023/2/8/womens- b...

She's also moving up the career leaderboards... 17 points away from being Columbia's 4th leading scorer all-time and ten 3-pointers away from being 4th in Ivy history for 3-pt FG made.

Career Points Scored (Columbia)
1. Camille Zimmerman 1,973
2. Ula Lysniak 1,447
3. Tori Oliver 1,337
4. Kathy Gilbert 1,309
5. Abbey Hsu 1,293

Career 3-Pt Field Goals (Ivy League)
1. Katie Benzan (Harvard) 287
T2. Courtney Banghart (Dartmouth) 273
T2. Jeannie Cullen (Dartmouth) 273
T4. Erin Maher (Harvard) 261
T4. Shayna Mehta (Brown) 261
6. Abbey Hsu (Columbia) 252



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02-11-23 06:54 AM - Post#351301    

Incredible reminder how good Katie Benzan was. She set the Ivy record in only three seasons, during which the offense ran through their post player.
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02-11-23 02:44 PM - Post#351327    

PeteD is right as the Lions blew out Yale 74-46 this afternoon at Levien Gymnasium to move to 8-2 in the Ivy League. My math may not be perfect, but is does seem that the four Tivy League Women's Tournament teams will be in alphabetical order, Columbia, Harvard, Penn and Princeton. Those four teams are clearly the best women's basketball teams in the Ivy League. Obviously, the Lions need to win all four of their remaining games which should assure them of at least a share of the Ivy League Championship, and I believe a first place seed in the Tournament. In that regard, the Lions primary goals in the remaining four games have to be sharpening up their skills for the Tournament including the probable rematch against Princeton. One issue is the recent injury to talented freshman Perri Page who is apparently out for the rest of the season. However, I would not be at all surprised if, during the next three weeks, the Lions outstanding coach, Megan Griffith, finds a way to compensate for Page's loss.
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02-11-23 02:51 PM - Post#351331    

We won by a lot, but I don't think we played well. Hsu missed her first 7 3s, and much of the offense was stop/start. We will have to play better if we want to be assured of beating Harvard away, much less Princeton at Jadwin.
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02-11-23 03:29 PM - Post#351345    

I agree; lots of errant passes and too many second chance shots by a game Yale team. But we have the most talented starting 5 in the league.

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02-11-23 03:30 PM - Post#351346    

PS, can somebody explain why Duerr doesn’t get more minutes.

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02-11-23 03:44 PM - Post#351357    

Understood and agreed, but as to the possible Princeton rematch, at Jadwin, I would hope that the Columbia Athletic Department already has in place a plan for making certain that a huge number of Columbia fans attend that game in Princeton. Is there anything else our Athletic Department has to do as important as that. After all, the Men's Basketball Team is likely to finish its season with its third consecutive 1-13 record and Cellar Championship which would appear to guarantee another contract extension for Coach Engles
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02-11-23 05:35 PM - Post#351384    

  • Chet Forte Said:
PS, can somebody explain why Durr doesn’t get more minutes.


Griffith was essentially going with a 7-woman rotation in close games w/ Lauder and Page getting the most bench minutes... why those two and not Durr? Likely because they're simply better in most facets of the game. That's not so much a critique of Durr (she'd likely be starting for most other Ivy teams), but it's a compliment to Lauder and Page who earned playing time with solid play.

But now with Page out for the season due to injury, it appears that her minutes will get shared between Durr and Kennedy... L-Kenn has come on late this season, providing some quality minutes the past couple of games.
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02-11-23 07:27 PM - Post#351397    

and Yale is terrible this year...
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02-11-23 09:32 PM - Post#351414    

Another blow-out for MBB; in my many years of watching Ivy basketball in general and Columbia specifically I have never seen such a hapless team.

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02-12-23 05:09 PM - Post#351502    

This Friday's game at Harvard is huge... likely the final legitimate test before Ivy Madness. A slip up in this one means a smaller chance at getting an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament (if Columbia doesn't win the Ivy tournament).

ESPN's latest bracketology has Mississippi St and Nebraska as the final two in. Nebraska has a current NET ranking of 44... MSU is at 35 and Columbia is ranked 36th.

Harvard is in the Top 100, so a win would help solidify Columbia's at-large chances.
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02-12-23 08:37 PM - Post#351514    

Columbia beat Harvard by 26 at Levien. It will be closer away, but unless we have a catastrophic breakdown, that's an awfully big number to make up
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02-12-23 09:18 PM - Post#351515    

Indeed, but… Harvard pulled off an upset at home vs Princeton and Columbia fell on the road to Penn, a team they beat convincingly at home, so… I could see this one going either way. The Lions have to treat this one like a post-season game.
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02-13-23 02:23 PM - Post#351548    

I agre. Harvard is a quality team and was so even last yeae when they nearly defeated Princeton. Harvard has a talented center who transferred from Cal Berkely, a deadly outside hooter in Mullaney, and a prolific scorer in Harmoni Turner. Overall, we are more talented, but we are not perfect.
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02-13-23 06:04 PM - Post#351565    

Forbes, the Cal transfer is actually a wing, not a post player. And she has not been nearly as impactful this year as last year. But they do have a nice young post player in Elena Rodriguez.

As for the guards, if Mulaney and Turner are shooting really well Harvard can beat anyone, but Turner is a high volume gunner who is not very efficient and insanely turnover prone.

I'd guess Columbia by 20.
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02-13-23 07:36 PM - Post#351567    

https://www.thenexthoops.com/ncaaw/mid-majors/colu ...

The story above explains what happened to Sienna Durr, but suggests she is coming around.
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02-14-23 10:36 AM - Post#351591    


Terrific article--thanks for posting. Sienna Durr has been a huge contributor to the success of the Columbia Women's Basketball Program under Coach Megan Griffith. She is a very talented athlete and a fierce competitor.
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02-14-23 10:50 AM - Post#351592    

I think she is an excellent player and frankly am puzzled as to why she is still not starting. But I do admire her team first attitude. Compare her attitude to the decision of the captain of the football team a few years ago who quit the team when he was beaten out for the starting position by Joe Green. He could have stayed as a valuable reserve/wildcat option but decided to leave the program.

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02-17-23 09:14 PM - Post#351825    

Great win over Harvard tonight… 75-70. Hsu was red hot… 6 for 10 from beyond the arc. Abbey did her Buck Jenkins impersonation, scoring 35 for the game.

The Crimson made a surge late, netting 33 points in the 4th quarter with just about every shot going down, but the Lions held on.

Wow. The bus ride to Hanover should be fun.
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02-17-23 09:39 PM - Post#351835    

And the game itself much easier.
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02-18-23 08:46 AM - Post#351874    

Anybody see the MBB game? If you saw the AD website you might have guessed that we won but of course another crash landing.

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02-18-23 01:03 PM - Post#351897    

I doubt many people were watching from home because what happened was exactly the same as before. Columbia's guards, in this case really only Geronimo de la Rosa, kept us in the game for awhile, but our opponent, in this case, Harvard, could score at will inside the paint, and dominate us on the boards. Once again, it was obvious that Engles for the sixth straight season had screwed up things from the start and had misled Columbia's tiny little fanbase into thinking we might be competitive during the Ivy League season. In prior years, the story was that Coach Smith had left poor little Engles a bare cupboard, and there were unanticipated injuries, player defections, or whatever. Hoever, it has become evident the last two months, that this time around Engles simply failed to tell us that he had forgotten to recruit any skilled big man who could rebound. Not only that, but the one talented rebounder he had, Patrick Harding left the program,followed shortly thereafter by the news that a back-up center had also departed. Those tiny coaching omissions have made it impossible for the Lions to be competitive for still another year. Of course, Engles won't admit that and will laugh at all of us because now he can make the argument is that Columbia still has to give him another year so his new recruits can join the team and correct the problem. By now, I believe that everyone except possibly Pilling realizes that we have been conned.
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02-18-23 02:06 PM - Post#351900    

I listened to his post game interview—his contention is that we defended the first shot well but are not yet strong enough to rebound effectively. That of course will lead to the argument that a year in the weight room plus an incoming recruit or two will turn things around. Pilling will probably buy it. I hare being so negative because Engles seems to be a genuinely nice man who should be able to do better in recruiting a competitive team.

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02-18-23 02:18 PM - Post#351903    

Joe Jones was 86 and 108 after 7 seasons and was still apparently pressured into taking a job as an assistant supposedly because of his failure ever to win more than 16 games in a season.

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02-18-23 05:00 PM - Post#351919    

Columbia Women are leading Dartmouth 44-21 at halftime. Coach Griffith is trying some new things out. Hey Chet, you need to stop calling Engles a "nice man." His personality is not an issue here, and he has supervised the destruction of a winning program. There is no excuse for allowing Engles to destroy te program and the athletic director's job is to win a personality contest, but to make certain Columbia's players have competent coaches--see Al Bagnoli and staff, Brett Boretti and staff, Jim Bolster, Tonelli, etc., etc.
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02-18-23 06:13 PM - Post#351925    

Fair point

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02-18-23 11:05 PM - Post#352044    

Standings after today's 80-38 win over Dartmouth.

Columbia 10-2
Princeton 10-2
Penn 8-4
Harvard 8-4
Yale 5-7
Brown 4-8
Cornell 3-9
Dartmouth 0-12

Penn's loss to Brown today significantly helped Columbia's chances of getting the #1 seed because Princeton would win the tie-breaker if Penn finishes in sole possession of 3rd place.
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02-19-23 10:06 PM - Post#352172    

I am surprised by Penn's lose to Brown. What happened? Columbia plays Brown next.
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02-20-23 09:41 AM - Post#352179    

Brown showed a 2/3 zone that Penn could not figure out and in general played with a lot more energy. Penn came out flat footed in the second half and Brown erased the 12 pt halftime deficit pretty easily. Brown looked the more confident aggressive team and as Penn's lead slipped away the Quakers had zero answers for Brown's speed and energy.

On a side not, the refs really swallowed their whistles and before Penn started desperation fouling in the final 2:00 the teams had combined to take 2 FTs the whole game (Penn finished with 0 FTs).
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02-20-23 04:05 PM - Post#352214    

Thanks for the info. I just watched segments of the replay of the Brown game on ESPN and agree with your observations. I was also very impressed with the play of Brown's two freshman guards who I believe were the top scorers in the game.
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02-20-23 04:19 PM - Post#352215    

Yes, Arnolie and Moreland played great. Arnolie is a very good shooter, she's going to score a lot of points in her career and Moreland looks like a Swiss army knife type wing who shows flashes of very good athleticism. Coach Leblanc has gone all in with the team's youth and you're seeing clear signs of a brighter future for Brown.
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02-20-23 07:18 PM - Post#352231    

Coach LeBlanc now has a win over an Ivy League Tournament Team which makes her recruiting in the off-season that much easier.
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02-24-23 11:42 PM - Post#352466    

Princeton women just barely got by Harvard 51-47 at Princeton tonight. Harvard led Princeton for most of the game, but failed to execute late in the fourth quarter.
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02-25-23 01:36 AM - Post#352469    

Princeton's had a lot of trouble with Harvard the past two seasons... I hope Griffith can figure out what the Crimson has been doing right and put that knowledge to good use against the Tigers in a couple weeks.

Meanwhile... Abigail Hsu continues to climb the leaderboards.

Career 3-Pt Field Goals (Ivy League):
1. Katie Benzan (Harvard) 287
T2. Courtney Banghart (Dartmouth) 273
T2. Jeannie Cullen (Dartmouth) 273
4. Abbey Hsu (Columbia) 263

Career Points Scored (Columbia)
1. Camille Zimmerman 1,973
2. Ula Lysniak 1,447
3. Abbey Hsu 1,364

I'm expecting a big game from Abbey today in Providence.
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02-25-23 08:10 AM - Post#352475    

Agreed--Neither Princeton nor Harvard played very last night, and the game was more about Harvard losing to Princeton than Princeton defeating Harvard. Obviously, Princeton has its share of problems on the court this season and Harvard exploited those issues for about 80% of the game before handing the game over to Princeton. It would be interesting to see Columbia's scouting report for last night's game as there were some glaring weaknesses on display--advantage Columbia and Penn
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02-25-23 10:13 AM - Post#352485    

Princeton has another gear on defense which turned the game around last night. H scored 30 in first half, 17 in second. Chen took the game over down the stretch, along with Ellie Mitchell. Harvard should be given a real shot to win ILT. Lots of talent there and Moore is a solid skipper.
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02-26-23 11:20 AM - Post#352601    

Agree with your comments about the Princeton-Harvard game and Harvard going into a higher defensive gear in the second half. Princeton also benefited from a number of Harvard mistakes and a rather strange three second call on Harvard's center.
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02-26-23 09:04 PM - Post#352642    

Harvard kicked away that game. Terrible decision making is their achilles and I don't have any confidence that will change. Columbia is so much more composed and talented.
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03-04-23 10:59 PM - Post#353112    

Congrats to the Lady Lions on their victory over the Big Red today, giving them a share of the Ivy Title with Princeton. Their first in program history.

The #1 seed in Ivy Madness will go to the team with the higher NET ranking (announced tomorrow morning)... and it's going to be close. Columbia was #35 and Princeton was #41 entering today's games. The Lions will almost certainly drop due to their OT struggle with #259 Cornell... and it will also hurt their at-large bid if they don't win the Ivy tournament.
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03-04-23 11:13 PM - Post#353115    

Taking nothing away from Cornell, but the Lions really missed Hannah Pratt today... she's so solid on both ends of the floor, and worthy of All-Ivy consideration.

Does anyone know why she did not suit up today? I didn't see any obvious sign of an injury.
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03-05-23 07:32 AM - Post#353126    

Although I had to watch on ESPN and could not be there, the packed house was a statement of what winning teams can do to campus life. Reminded me of the Jimmy Mac years.

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03-05-23 08:45 AM - Post#353133    

Columbia fell 10 spots to #45, so Princeton gets the #1 seed.

Columbia will play Harvard in the semis at 7 pm on Friday.
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03-05-23 09:13 AM - Post#353137    

Hannah Pratt had some kind of leg injury. I think Griffith kept her out in anticipation of next weekend. We would have beaten Cornell by more if she had played, perhaps even enough to retain the #1 seed.

The #2 seed may be a morale blow, but frankly Harvard is getting better, and I'd rather play Penn, because an upset seems much less likely
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03-05-23 09:55 AM - Post#353142    

Well, apparently, the official schedule is set, and we do play Harvard.

I still expect we'll win, but it will probably be a much closer and more nerve-wracking game.
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03-05-23 02:22 PM - Post#353169    

I missed the first 15 mins of the ESPN telecast, so I played it back today and Lance Medow confirmed what you said… that Pratt was nursing a knee injury… no word if she’s going to be available next weekend. Even at 80%, she’s going to help immensely.
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03-05-23 04:38 PM - Post#353202    

For us to win we need a game plan which lets Hsu get open for 3 point shots. All of the 4 teams have a legitimate chance at taking this tournament, and we are going to have to play much better than we did yesterday. As much as I hate to admit it, Cornell flat out outplayed us and we were just wily and experienced enough to squeak out a win in a game that we may well have lost.

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03-05-23 09:40 PM - Post#353240    

Agree with you that Cornell outplayed us which was a huge surprise given the Big Red's 3-11 record. The Cornell players came out on fire hitting practically every outside shot they attempted in the first quarter while also defending very well. It was a surprisingly strong all-around effort from a team that had very little prior success throughout the 2022-2023 season. Meanwhile, our team found a way to win which is the mark of a champion and why we are so blessed to have a great game coach like Megan Griffith at the helm. Imagine what would have happened if the men's coach, Engles, was coaching down the stretch. Cornell probably would have easily won the game by 10-20 points. Anyway, as Coach Griffith basically said post-game, nothing is given to you in this world, you have to earn it. What a terrific coach and person she is.
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03-06-23 03:13 PM - Post#353299    

Berube has been having more trouble as former assistants disburse to other Ivies.
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03-06-23 03:45 PM - Post#353302    

Neither Moore nor Griffith coached with Berube. But, yes, Princeton assistants have taken over the League.
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03-16-23 08:38 PM - Post#354399    

Columbia vs FDU in Rd 1 of the NIT tomorrow night at Levien. Winner will play Fordham next week in Rd 2.
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03-17-23 11:25 AM - Post#354456    

Good luck to the Lions tonight. Go Ivies!
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03-17-23 04:18 PM - Post#354484    

GO LADY LIONS! Make the Ivies proud. We’re all with you!
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03-17-23 08:18 PM - Post#354494    

They’ll be dancing on the FDU campus tonight!
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03-18-23 01:22 AM - Post#354512    

Next WBB next onward
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03-18-23 09:20 PM - Post#354673    

Columbia vs Fordham in Round 2... Monday night, 7 pm at Levien. Winner plays Syracuse or Seton Hall.
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03-20-23 09:37 PM - Post#354825    

Columbia 78-73… great win with contributions all around… Hsu led with 20 pts, but huge buckets by everyone in the 4th Qtr… Pratt, Patrick, Durr, and Davis. Their defense stepped up late, shutting down a very good Fordham team, who made it look easy scoring buckets almost the entire 2nd half.

Columbia vs Syracuse in the Super 16 at Levien on Friday night. The Orange crushed Seton Hall tonight by 18 in South Orange. The winner plays Rhode Island or Harvard next week for a Fab 4 spot.
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03-20-23 10:43 PM - Post#354829    

Back to cc66's commentNCAA about the importance of Hannah Pratt to this Columbia team. Has anyone in the Athletic Department ever explored the question whether the NCAA was informed by Columbia that she missed the Cornell game due to an injury? Big mistake if the NCAA Committee was not informed as the NCAA Selection Committee lowered Columbia's ranking after that game which cost the Lions the 1st seed in the tournament.
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03-20-23 11:06 PM - Post#354830    

If Columbia's NET ranking stayed higher than Princeton's, giving the Lions the #1 seed, Harvard would have dropped to the #4 seed (due to Penn's better record versus Columbia), so a Columbia/Harvard semi-final was inevitable.
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03-24-23 06:57 PM - Post#354998    

Syracuse up by 4 at the half… winner plays Harvard for a spot in the Fab 4.
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03-24-23 08:15 PM - Post#355003    

Columbia catapults past Syracuse, 88-82.

We play Harvard for the 4th time this season on Monday.
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03-24-23 10:00 PM - Post#355025    

Correction--now scheduled for Sunday at 4 pm.
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03-25-23 03:13 PM - Post#355079    

Terrific game. Both teams played well, but when all five starters score in double figures that team usually wins and that's what happened last night.
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03-25-23 03:16 PM - Post#355080    

Terrific game. Both teams played well, but when all five starters score in double figures that team usually wins and that's what happened last night.
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03-25-23 03:43 PM - Post#355081    

Tidbits: 1. NCAA Selection Committee members will be rooting for Harvard tomorrow night. 2. Coach Griffith made all the right moves last night. Imagine how many points Columbia would have lost by to Syracuse last night if Engles were coaching the women's team. 3. Some great individual match-ups tomorrow night.
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03-25-23 05:25 PM - Post#355084    

Engles is a competent game coach. He is an abysmal recruiter with zero charisma and no outreach skills.

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03-26-23 07:51 AM - Post#355109    

A shocker from the Great Chet Forte!!! After properly complaining for years about Engles obvious inability to coach anyone on a basketball court, Chet all of a sudden calls him "a competent game coach." Come on, unless you are talking about a different sport, such as ping-pong, Engles would not be allowed to coach basketball in your old Hackensack CYO.
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03-26-23 05:10 PM - Post#355124    

Up by 20 after three quarters, Columbia withstands a Harvard run to win by 6, 77-71.

We're on to the WNIT final four.
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03-26-23 05:16 PM - Post#355125    

Phew!… another furious 4th Qtr comeback by Harvard. The Lions play Florida or Bowling Green on Wednesday (venue TBD) in the WNIT semis.
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03-26-23 07:17 PM - Post#355129    

BG is at 73 NET; Florida is 83. We beat Syracuse at 57, though admittedly at home.

At 47, we should be able to defeat either of them.
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03-26-23 07:47 PM - Post#355133    

Any reaction to the Harvard comeback? Did we take our foot off the gas, or start to relax, when we were up by 20 in the 4th? And any thoughts about yet another poor 3 point game from Hsu?

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03-26-23 09:06 PM - Post#355135    

From what Griffith said post game, it was a combination of Harvard pressuring us and a bit of overconfidence from a twenty pt. lead.

Hsu was covered tightly, went 1 for 8 from three, but ended with 12 pts. Harvard knows how to defend her--I think she just got 4 pts. in our ILT loss to them, but Davis caught on in the second half, and Henderson is suddenly playing with much more authority.

Kansas is the only remaining team with a higher NET ranking (at 37). If we can win in the semis, we probably won't be favored, but we do have a shot.
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03-27-23 07:10 PM - Post#355196    

Columbia vs Bowling Green on Wednesday. They haven’t announced the site yet… maybe they’re doing a best of 7 roshambo? BGSU had their gym packed tonight (~ 3,800 in attendance), so that might give them the edge.
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03-27-23 07:41 PM - Post#355199    

I think we can beat BG. Although I'm sure we have been scouted closely, BG doesn't have the experience dealing with Hsu that Harvard and Princeton did. Plus after a late season slump, Henderson is playing with much more confidence. It will be close, probably not much more than a few points either way, but I do like our chances in the semi-final.

They've just announced it--6 PM tomorrow at BG.
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03-28-23 09:05 AM - Post#355222    

Now they have scheduled it for 6 PM Wednesday.

A little more time for Columbia to travel between games....
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03-28-23 10:58 AM - Post#355232    

Whatever happens the Lions have had a season of success. The league is getting better each year, a development for which Griffith can claim much credit. No team can expect to go through the league schedule unscathed.
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03-29-23 08:26 PM - Post#355330    

No April Fool’s joke… Columbia vs Kansas at Allen Fieldhouse this Saturday for the NIT Championship!



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