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dperry
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05-29-23 12:45 PM - Post#356480    

. . .at Auburn, followed by Southern Mississippi or Samford in Game 2. Auburn only a 13 seed, so Penn obviously moved up the rankings some compared to what previous bracketologies were saying.
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05-31-23 02:27 PM - Post#356514    

Long odds for Penn in this tournament.

https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/penn/n caa-...
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05-31-23 07:47 PM - Post#356522    

I’ll make a modest wager on Penn making it out of the regional at 8-1
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06-02-23 10:40 PM - Post#356585    

It’s not over, but Penn leads #13 (#1-seed) Auburn 6-3 top 11th thanks to an RBI double followed by 3 consecutive bunt hits, including 2 squeeze bunts.
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06-02-23 10:46 PM - Post#356586    

Fat lady sang. Get the 3 seed tomorrow
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06-02-23 10:49 PM - Post#356587    

It’s over now. 6-3 final in 11 innings. Onto the winners bracket vs. #3-seed Samford tomorrow night, after the top two seeds play an elimination game tomorrow afternoon.
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06-02-23 11:10 PM - Post#356589    

Shame Owen Coady, one of their three excellent normal starters, is questionable with a bum shoulder, or the road to the Super Regional would be looking mighty clear right now. Nevertheless, as good a first day as you can ask for. Fear the pacifists!
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06-03-23 06:00 AM - Post#356595    

Local Auburn newspaper story
https://oanow.com/sports/college/auburn /penn-upset...
13otto
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06-03-23 10:27 PM - Post#356618    

Penn up 5-0 after 5 innings with a spot in the regional final on the line. Cole Zaffiro facing the minimum, allowing just one hit off the glove of SS Cole Palis, but a DP followed. He’s thrown just 47 pitches through 5 innings.
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06-03-23 10:54 PM - Post#356619    

Zaffino through 7 innings (80 pitches). Still 5-0.
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06-03-23 11:17 PM - Post#356620    

Now 5-2. Going bottom 9th. Into the bullpen but closer not available as he threw 3+ IP last night. 3 outs away.
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penn nation
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06-03-23 11:28 PM - Post#356622    

Oh, my Lord, what an ending.
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06-03-23 11:31 PM - Post#356624    

Wow! The call stands! We barely hung on, 5-4, but we’re onto the regional final tomorrow night.
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06-03-23 11:43 PM - Post#356625    

That was way more interesting than it should have been, but hey, when you're nominally the worst of four teams, you've got to get some luck here and there. 'Twill be interesting to see how exactly they cobble together the pitching tomorrow assuming that Coady is not available. Nevertheless, again, best you could ask for after two days; let's see if they can get it done now.
David Perry
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06-04-23 12:03 AM - Post#356626    

Should also be noted that Southern Mississippi dismissed Auburn in the afternoon (as someone on the Auburn board put it, the Road to Omaha turned into the Road to Opelika--a suburb of Auburn ), so they will play Samford tomorrow at 3 Eastern, with the winner coming right back to play us at 9 tomorrow evening. Game 2, if needed, will be on Monday. As I said, our pitching is going to be exciting tomorrow, so I'm rooting for 14-13 in fifteen innings in the elimination game.
David Perry
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06-04-23 08:49 AM - Post#356628    

These two games have exposed a couple of serious vulnerabilities in this team: 2nd line relief pitchers with control issues (that the coach sticks with too long) and some very jittery defense. Injuries have something to do with this, but their luck is going to run out of they do not clean it up. They are really going to really miss their #2 starter today when the ‘pen has to try and keep it close.
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06-04-23 03:28 PM - Post#356631    

  • Streamers Said:
These two games have exposed a couple of serious vulnerabilities in this team: 2nd line relief pitchers with control issues (that the coach sticks with too long) and some very jittery defense. Injuries have something to do with this, but their luck is going to run out of they do not clean it up. They are really going to really miss their #2 starter today when the ‘pen has to try and keep it close.



I wouldn't panic too much about the bullpen; Ozmer has been lights out almost all year, and Trop, Sarti, and Zeldin have all been pretty consistent. Sarti had a bad day yesterday, but that isn't typical. I will say that I've been surprised that Shoemaker hasn't gotten more appearances this year, since his stats when he has appeared have been in the same class as the last three; he does seem to have come in more often in the last few weeks, however, and he certainly saved their bacon yesterday. The problem is just that with all of them pitching in the first two games, you probably have to run someone out there who is more questionable and hope they have a good day.

The fielding has been a weakness in the past, but this year there seemed to have been improvement, as they ended up second in the league to Yale in fielding pct. and didn't have nearly as many meltdowns as they have in the past. Henseler has the tools to be a great 3B, but he doesn't execute consistently for whatever reason, which leads to games like yesterday, where he had an absolutely brilliant play early that made a tough chance look easy, but then botched a couple more later. He has ten errors this year, which works out to over 30 in an MLB-length season, so if he wants to progress, he's either got to raise that part of his game something fierce or else switch to a less demanding position. Calvin Brown just needs to concentrate and hold his glove closer to his face. Taylor's throw on the last play of the game looked funny; while it's hard to tell from the TV angle, I wonder whether the umpire got in the way a bit. I will also say that I think he rushed it because the runner was faster than he thought; even a good throw would still have been a bang-bang play.
David Perry
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13otto
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06-04-23 05:14 PM - Post#356633    

  • dperry Said:
Should also be noted that Southern Mississippi dismissed Auburn in the afternoon (as someone on the Auburn board put it, the Road to Omaha turned into the Road to Opelika--a suburb of Auburn ), so they will play Samford tomorrow at 3 Eastern, with the winner coming right back to play us at 9 tomorrow evening. Game 2, if needed, will be on Monday. As I said, our pitching is going to be exciting tomorrow, so I'm rooting for 14-13 in fifteen innings in the elimination game.


How about a 1 1/2 to 2-hour weather delay about 45 minutes into the Samford-Southern Mississippi game? We'll see whether the starting pitchers can continue...

I thought Southern Mississippi (#13 RPI, #17 Baseball America poll, #19 coaches poll) was the best team in the Regional, so I'm really pulling for Samford this afternoon. Auburn is #20, #22 and unranked, respectively.
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06-04-23 06:04 PM - Post#356634    

Play has resumed. Weather delay was 2 hours 18 minutes, but Samford starter is back on the hill. Southern Mississippi starter apparently will do the same.
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palestra38
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06-04-23 09:27 PM - Post#356636    

Apparently Southern Miss won and the Penn -S. Miss game will start at 9:52. Is this single elimination?
mbaprof
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06-04-23 09:33 PM - Post#356637    

no. if we lose we play them again tomm
mbaprof
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06-04-23 09:34 PM - Post#356638    

if we win its over
Bill Lewis
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06-04-23 09:35 PM - Post#356639    

If Penn wins tonite, Penn moves on. If Southern Mississippi wins, there will be a game on Monday.
penn nation
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06-04-23 09:46 PM - Post#356640    

Do they expect pitchers arms to be made of rubber? Tonight and tomorrow, if necessary, are not going to be pretty from a pitching perspective.

So many games in such a condensed time period.
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06-04-23 09:55 PM - Post#356641    

Southern Miss needs to beat Penn twice. Penn needs just one win to advance. And Coady is on the hill.
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penn nation
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06-04-23 10:04 PM - Post#356642    

Up 1-0!
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06-04-23 10:15 PM - Post#356643    

Coady doesn't appear to have it tonight. Could be a short outing.
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06-04-23 10:24 PM - Post#356644    

great escape


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06-04-23 10:26 PM - Post#356645    

Coady does not look to be 100%. He’s got to be able to throw his fastball for a strike or it will be a very short outing.
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penn nation
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06-04-23 10:27 PM - Post#356646    

Indeed.

But Coady isn't going to last much longer at this rate.
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06-04-23 10:35 PM - Post#356647    

Seems like Coady is sacrificing serious mileage on his pitches just to make sure they get over.
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06-04-23 10:40 PM - Post#356648    

That was a better inning for Coady. We’ll need more innings like that from him.
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penn nation
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06-04-23 10:48 PM - Post#356650    

Penn caught a big break on that pickoff play. Runner appeared to be out but they didn't really have a conclusive camera angle, ends up scoring.
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06-04-23 10:51 PM - Post#356651    

Agreed.
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06-04-23 10:57 PM - Post#356652    

Coady’s through four. Still up 2-1.
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06-04-23 10:59 PM - Post#356653    

  • penn nation Said:
Do they expect pitchers arms to be made of rubber? Tonight and tomorrow, if necessary, are not going to be pretty from a pitching perspective.

So many games in such a condensed time period.



Yeah, the final loser's bracket game should be the only game on Sunday, and then the championship game or games should both be on Monday. The team making the final through the winner's bracket already has a big enough advantage; the other team should at least have the entire night to recover.
David Perry
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06-04-23 11:07 PM - Post#356654    

We have the bases loaded in the 4th with one out and have chased the USM starter.
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06-04-23 11:12 PM - Post#356655    

Penn has the best pitching depth in this regional. Even with Coady at 75%. Helps a lot with this schedule.
13otto
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06-04-23 11:14 PM - Post#356656    

Friggin pitch clock… ugh!
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Streamers
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06-04-23 11:14 PM - Post#356657    

Helluva time for a clock violation.
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06-04-23 11:14 PM - Post#356658    

Calvin Brown just rung up with two outs and a 3-2 count for not being ready in the batter's box. I was wondering if the Ivies not having the clock yet was going to bite us at some point.
David Perry
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penn nation
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06-04-23 11:15 PM - Post#356659    

That is truly unbelievable. Could have broken the game open right there.
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06-04-23 11:15 PM - Post#356660    

Tommy Delany now in.
David Perry
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06-04-23 11:16 PM - Post#356661    

  • Streamers Said:
Penn has the best pitching depth in this regional. Even with Coady at 75%. Helps a lot with this schedule.


We’ll find out now. Coady out after four.
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06-04-23 11:19 PM - Post#356662    

And that's followed up by another bad fielding moment, as Werchan throws the ball away trying to get the batter stretching out a double, and then Miller can't make a good throw to get him at third, either.
David Perry
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06-04-23 11:20 PM - Post#356663    

. . . but then USM promptly cancels it out when the runner at third gets hung up on a ground ball to Palis and Appel guns him down at third.
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palestra38
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06-05-23 08:27 AM - Post#356664    

So, having gotten crushed and now in an elimination game, does Penn have another pitcher who can shut down a good hitting team? It's a bit strange how they compress the games here after a season in which they play a bunch of games on a weekend and maybe one other during the week.
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06-05-23 09:00 AM - Post#356665    

  • 13otto Said:
  • Streamers Said:
Penn has the best pitching depth in this regional. Even with Coady at 75%. Helps a lot with this schedule.


We’ll find out now. Coady out after four.


I think we get the answer today.

They saved Ozmer and Zedlin for this ‘bullpen’ game. Shoemaker will be available and I would not rule out a ‘cameo’ from Dromboski.

No idea what the state of the USM staff is after this weekend though.

I bet the over at 12.5. Penn is plus 165 as of now.
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06-05-23 03:57 PM - Post#356672    

Penn up 5-1 in the 4th!
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06-05-23 04:01 PM - Post#356673    

Yes, three straight doubles to start the top of the fourth and Southern Miss is now on their third pitcher of the game.
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palestra38
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06-05-23 04:13 PM - Post#356674    

But 3 singles and walk and a HBP puts the Quakers in trouble with 2 runs in, bases still loaded and no outs

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06-05-23 04:21 PM - Post#356675    

5-5 after four innings but it could have been worse. Dromboski to the rescue. Huge DP.
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LocalTiger
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06-05-23 08:03 PM - Post#356676    

congratulations on a very good season.
Represented the League well!
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06-05-23 08:37 PM - Post#356677    

Thanks LT. our guys made us proud but in the end they lost to a top 20 team that wasn’t overrated.
Penndemonium
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06-06-23 12:12 AM - Post#356679    

I watched some of it last night, thanks to the this thread. Our team looked pretty good and pretty composed. The other team looked like a MLB team. I think there is something in their water.

Congrats to the team on a great season. They were so close to Omaha.

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06-06-23 10:04 AM - Post#356681    

  • Penndemonium Said:
I watched some of it last night, thanks to the this thread. Our team looked pretty good and pretty composed. The other team looked like a MLB team. I think there is something in their water.

Congrats to the team on a great season. They were so close to Omaha.




Well, not that close. They would have needed to take 2 of 3 from Tennessee to get to Omaha. (I think.)

Still, a great effort. Turns out college baseball can be kinda fun to watch! I'll be keeping an eye on these guys going forward.

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06-06-23 10:16 AM - Post#356682    

Congrats to the team on a great season. Let's not forget that the NINE seniors on this team got SCREWED out of TWO YEARS of eligibility by COVID and the Ivy League's ostrich attitude in response. How much better could they have been?
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06-06-23 10:18 AM - Post#356683    

It was a really nice season for these guys.

Maybe this is obvious but the Penn baseball team has a real online personality. Compare this with the Penn basketball team of which I can only describe as devoid of an interesting online presence.

NYCHoops mentioned a lot of things in his recent post. One of several was that he senses that our staff doesn’t really understand the importance of some modern day means of creating awareness and interest among potential hs basketball players. I’m not saying our staff are duds, but in terms of a social media footprint, they are not very impressive, at least from my perspective.

Congrats to Penn baseball. They’ve peaked a lot of interest for many. I have become a fan and a lot has to do with the Twitter footprint they’ve created.
penn nation
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06-06-23 10:44 AM - Post#356684    

Yeah, I got a little sick of the announcer mentioning that Appel would be attending Texas A&M next year.
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06-06-23 12:44 PM - Post#356687    

  • penn nation Said:
Yeah, I got a little sick of the announcer mentioning that Appel would be attending Texas A&M next year.


plus 4 others to power 5 schools

10Q
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06-06-23 12:48 PM - Post#356688    

College baseball is fun. I grew up watching University of Miami and University of Florida baseball, which is very high quality.

Congrats to our guys for a great season.
palestra38
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06-06-23 01:11 PM - Post#356689    

It really came down to the lack of pitching depth on an Ivy League roster. Had we played every other day as they do in basketball, we probably would have won.
mbaprof
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06-06-23 02:18 PM - Post#356690    

Will be interesting to see if nil fueled transfer to power five schools come into play vs the always in place draft options for ugs

Penndemonium
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06-06-23 03:18 PM - Post#356691    

  • AsiaSunset Said:
It was a really nice season for these guys.

Maybe this is obvious but the Penn baseball team has a real online personality. Compare this with the Penn basketball team of which I can only describe as devoid of an interesting online presence.

NYCHoops mentioned a lot of things in his recent post. One of several was that he senses that our staff doesn’t really understand the importance of some modern day means of creating awareness and interest among potential hs basketball players. I’m not saying our staff are duds, but in terms of a social media footprint, they are not very impressive, at least from my perspective.

Congrats to Penn baseball. They’ve peaked a lot of interest for many. I have become a fan and a lot has to do with the Twitter footprint they’ve created.



My sense of things is that Donahue is good at some things and not as much at others. He runs a better and cleaner program structure than either of his 2 predecessors. He is missing something in recruiting. His player development seems decent. His game coaching is a mixed story. His innovation appears so-so.

Steve's winning Cornell teams were a perfect confluence of some lucky recruiting, player development, and players whose abilities highlighted Steve's strongest game strategies. The problem is that nothing stays the same in sports. The league is recruiting better overall, the whole NCAA is changing (NIL, transfers, etc.), and his strategies are well-known and more broadly practiced. We also have not had good timing of players who fit his approach well.

The part that is more difficult to puzzle out is that for his first few years, I actually thought his game coaching was good. Our teams always seemed purposeful and focused, and never gave up playing hard. He was slowly improving as a defensive coach. His progress seems to have stalled. Our defense is terrible, and our offense doesn't seem to fit our personnel (or vice-versa).

The coach has to own all of this, and never rest on their laurels in even a single category. The coaches need to be a continuously learning and quickly adapting. In the old days, coaches like Boeheim, Knight, and Smith could just run teams the way they liked. Every year looked like the last decade. Now, even Duke, Kentucky, and other power teams have had to adapt quickly to the new landscape. I do question whether he is up to that task and succeeding in the Gen Z player era.

Either way, I respect Donahue a lot and our program overall. I am not shouting for his head. If he is leading our team, we need a few lucky strikes in recruiting very talented Donahue-type players. I don't think he will hit every cylinder in meeting the new world of college basketball without a bit of luck. As NYCHoops said, some others are working harder and smarter. I'm OK with that as long as our team stays motivated and they represent us as well as have.




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