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jeromelh
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11-13-23 10:06 PM - Post#359103    

Here I am, a Princeton guy watching the game. With 32 seconds left to go Penn is up by 4. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS??

jeromelh
Junior
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11-13-23 10:08 PM - Post#359104    

17 seconds left, Penn up by 5 and Penn is going to the line.
IVY POWER!!!
jeromelh
Junior
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11-13-23 10:17 PM - Post#359105    

PENN WINS BY 4. This year's edition looks really good and can challenge for the Ivy League Championship.
Penndemonium
PhD Student
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11-13-23 10:17 PM - Post#359106    

WE WIN!!!!!
palestra38
Professor
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11-13-23 10:17 PM - Post#359107    

Just a tremendous victory!
Penndemonium
PhD Student
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11-13-23 10:18 PM - Post#359108    

What a heart stopping end of game!!
Bruno
PhD Student
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11-13-23 10:18 PM - Post#359109    

That was a special win. The crowd flooding the court was a sight to see.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)

Penndemonium
PhD Student
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11-13-23 10:18 PM - Post#359110    

You're right, of course. I was too paralyzed to check the board or report on the game.

  • jeromelh Said:
Here I am, a Princeton guy watching the game. With 32 seconds left to go Penn is up by 4. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS??




palestra38
Professor
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11-13-23 10:22 PM - Post#359111    

No one was going to go back and forth with the Board at that point. Just hold our breath that we hit enough foul shots to hold on and Villanova doesn't hit every 3.
10Q
Professor
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11-13-23 10:22 PM - Post#359112    

Wow. Just wow.
TheLine
Professor
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11-13-23 10:25 PM - Post#359113    

Didn't want to jinx anything by starting up a thread.

Gutty performance. Was sweating the FTs at the end.

Penn90
Masters Student
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Penn90
11-13-23 10:25 PM - Post#359114    

Trading Dingle to the Clippers is really paying off!
Leges sine moribus vanae

palestra38
Professor
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11-13-23 10:26 PM - Post#359116    

Gotta wonder why Thrower and Holland didn't get more time last year. But they and of course, Perkins, have been a revelation.
whitakk
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11-13-23 10:26 PM - Post#359117    

Final 10 minutes had a bit of "mid-major upset" vibe but Penn really just outplayed Nova for the first 30.

I believe Perkins is just the third Ivy player in the last decade to go for 20+ in two of his first four games (Dingle, Morgan)
TheLine
Professor
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11-13-23 10:33 PM - Post#359119    

Moore pretty much single-handedly kept Nova in the game.

weinhauers_ghost
Postdoc
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11-13-23 10:46 PM - Post#359120    

That was one hell of a game. I thought we might be dead when Spinoso picked up his fourth foul, but the offense - defense substitution thing worked. The zone really kept Nova off balance, and we made big shots when we needed them.

Maybe this team will turn out to be better than we expected it to be.

I love it when we beat Nova.
james
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11-13-23 10:50 PM - Post#359121    

Congrats! Awesome win.

Those DMV guys man. More particularly, the IAC!
palestra38
Professor
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11-13-23 11:09 PM - Post#359125    

Photos from the game
https://www.inquirer.com/photo/penn-vs-villano va-p...
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-13-23 11:14 PM - Post#359126    

Sat with my brother the Villanova grad and he started saying to me in the first half “you guys are going to win this.” Saw we were dictating pace and out-executing them on both ends.

penn nation
Professor
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11-13-23 11:35 PM - Post#359130    

This was not on my Bingo card for tonight.

What was the line?
Quake Show
Junior
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11-13-23 11:37 PM - Post#359131    

Really good team win. Rebounding!!!

Perkins is a revelation. Kid plays with so much confidence.

There are certainly things to be said about Villanova this year, but for now let's enjoy this win while it's fresh
weinhauers_ghost
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11-13-23 11:37 PM - Post#359132    

All five starters scored in double figures. Perkins with 22, Holland 12, Slajchert and Thrower with 11 and Spinoso with 10.

Nicely balanced offense.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-13-23 11:38 PM - Post#359133    

VU -11.5

O/U was 142.5

penn nation
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11-13-23 11:39 PM - Post#359134    

  • Chip Bayers Said:
VU -11.5

O/U was 142.5



I'll bet it has been a very, very long time since Penn won a game against that kind of line.

Streamers
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Streamers
11-14-23 12:18 AM - Post#359135    

Watched in on a delay. So glad I didn’t know the score. That was really fun. Maybe these guys are better than we thought.
SRP
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11-14-23 12:36 AM - Post#359137    

Congratulations on a huge win. I surely did not see that one coming. [recalculating....]
Penndemonium
PhD Student
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11-14-23 01:08 AM - Post#359141    

I’ll give our team huge credit for the win. Villanova didn’t shoot well, which obviously helped. They can compete with their teamwork and composure. I think the Ivy coaches usually know our playbook pretty well, so we won’t surprise them much.
SomeGuy
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11-14-23 02:03 AM - Post#359142    

I thought we showed a lot of patience against an aggressive and athletic defense. Particularly Clark, who didn’t press (at least not too much).

Also, we continue to defend really, really well. I thought the zone would be a change of pace, but we stuck with it and it worked. I can’t quite pinpoint why we’re better on D (Perkins may be a lot of it), but it seems like we really are. And the rebounding continues to be a revelation.


Penndemonium
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11-14-23 02:31 AM - Post#359143    


They definitely look a bit tougher on D. Spinoso has always played hard. Slajchert looks about the same, but a bit smarter and more aggressive. So some of the difference has to be attributable to Perkins, Slajchert, Holland, Laz, Walter, and Smith. I would still like to see our team be a bit tougher in the one-on-one battles. This team seems to be doing a good job with bringing the help - especially tonight.
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
11-14-23 03:00 AM - Post#359144    

  • jeromelh Said:
Here I am, a Princeton guy watching the game. With 32 seconds left to go Penn is up by 4. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS??




We were busy sweating through the last 2.5 mins or so.

Awesome win, too tired to get into more right now, but great team effort overall and fantastic bounce back for Perkins. I was excited about him based on following his senior year play but this is still way above expectations to start. Love to see it. It’s always great to beat Nova.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-14-23 03:17 AM - Post#359145    

Shout out to Spinoso, who really stepped up his game after playing so poorly against Bucknell & St. Joe’s.

TigerFan
PhD Student
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11-14-23 05:06 AM - Post#359146    

Nice win. Methinks the Yalies may be counting their chickens a tad early after their “close,” 15 point loss to Gonzaga.
palestra38
Professor
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11-14-23 07:22 AM - Post#359148    

While the Inquirer article on the game sucks (Jensen, who has just retired and Kern and Jerardi, who are retired and going into the Big 5 HOF, would be embarrassed by the kind of sports reporting we get now from kids right out of journalism school), the article on the game on the Villanova message board is pretty good, plus you get to read the tooth gnashing (with obligatory "WHY do we continue to play Big 5 games on the road" complaints) comments that make it all worthwhile.
https://www.vuhoops.com/2023/11/13/23960062/v illan...
TheLine
Professor
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11-14-23 08:10 AM - Post#359151    

Apologies for the aside, but it's not that the old sports writers were any good (most weren't), it's that the mainstream 'newspapers' aren't serious about sports. FFS they could hire Josh Verlin or someone on his staff if they wanted.

Now back to regular programming. I'm surprised that Nova team is in the Top 25. It was still a great win though, I enjoy kicking Nova even more than Princeton.

AsiaSunset
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11-14-23 08:29 AM - Post#359152    

A lot of the comments after the St Joe’s game were spot on. There were many positives mixed with a few things that needed correction. But last night - wow. The continued defensive effort, the relentless work on the boards was accompanied by the team’s ability to score the ball. Let’s face it - the 61 points scored against St Joe’s doesn’t win many ballgames. But 76 points will win the majority of Penn’s games this season. Yesterday they did that against some pretty good athletes. Great performance.
10Q
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11-14-23 08:41 AM - Post#359153    

I'm always tempted after a game like this to say, just imagine how good this team would be if we still had Dingle and the other guy who transferred out early. But I guess the reality is that they may have just cleared the way for other guys to step up their games and do things they wouldn't do if they were lower in the pecking order. Anyway, it's just one game and possibly (hopefully not) the highlight of the season.
TheLine
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11-14-23 08:52 AM - Post#359155    

Moore was the only Nova player capable of shooting. Penn's zone allowed Nova to set picks to free up outside shots that they proceeded to miss. It was the right defense because Nova players had difficulty using their physical advantage to drive to the hoop. When they did get to the paint, they were met with yet another defender to beat.

Movement was real good on both ends of the court.

pennsive
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11-14-23 09:22 AM - Post#359156    

This is what I meant when I argued pre-season that we may be better than some thought due to addition by subtraction. Perkins’s high school videos and his last all star game gave us reason to hope. The other thing was that Steve couldn’t get the team to play aggressively for a full 40 minutes last year when the team was built around one offensive super star. I love our balance so far this year. The Penn community including alumni needed an adrenaline shot, and our team’s performance last night and the comeback against St Joes were just what the doctor ordered. This team has the potential to be much stronger than we anticipated. Beating Villanova was a great win-unexpected by almost everyone (except by the players and coaches who seem this year to have great chemistry, toughness and play with confidence) but dearly hoped for. Go Quakers!
palestra38
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11-14-23 09:24 AM - Post#359157    

Aside back at you---I strongly disagree that the sportswriters of the '70s-'90s weren't better. They actually trained and worked at their jobs and were writers as well as journalists. Granted there was one very bad guy mixed in with them (although he too really could write), but the difference between those who grew up with the game, learned from experienced sportswriters covering high school sports at first and actually knowing what they were writing about is stark. Of course, the fact that papers are only willing to pay minimum wage has a lot to do with it. But just compare the VU Sports article with the Inquirer article--the VU Sports guy actually knows what he is writing about.
palestra38
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11-14-23 09:28 AM - Post#359158    

I'm right with you on how great it is to see the team playing like it is, and I am now very hopeful, where I was not pre-season. But I still think that what we are seeing just reinforces my belief that Donahue let us down last year when we were in a position to win the league--just imagine if he had unleased Holland and Thrower and given them some of the minutes of Monroe and Charles, who simply gave us zero offense. Fact is that they are better on defense too as it appears. Still, getting a freshman with the ability of Perkins does reply to a lot of the people who rip Donahue's recruiting. Anyway, lets go Quakers!
SomeGuy
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11-14-23 10:35 AM - Post#359165    

I always think you have something of a coaching advantage as an underdog. You could see that last night. Villanova is going to do what they do in a game like that, at least initially. Steve gets to come up with wrinkles to start that they need to react to. That’s an oversimplification of course, because Villanova did have a Penn-specific game plan. They obviously wanted to make Clark work for every inch of the court. The wonderful thing about the last two games is that teams have to pick their poison. Perkins or Slajchert. So far, nobody has figured out how to cover both.

TheLine
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11-14-23 10:38 AM - Post#359166    

  • palestra38 Said:
Aside back at you---I strongly disagree that the sportswriters of the '70s-'90s weren't better. They actually trained and worked at their jobs and were writers as well as journalists. Granted there was one very bad guy mixed in with them (although he too really could write), but the difference between those who grew up with the game, learned from experienced sportswriters covering high school sports at first and actually knowing what they were writing about is stark. Of course, the fact that papers are only willing to pay minimum wage has a lot to do with it. But just compare the VU Sports article with the Inquirer article--the VU Sports guy actually knows what he is writing about.


For every Pete Gammons, who was consistently good, there were seemingly a few others who might have been good for 5 years and then mailed it in for the next 40 (looking at you, Dick Young). Just look at the differences in baseball award and HOF voting after the reforms that elevated online sports reporters to the same status as the print ones.

The Villanova article in SB Nation makes my point. Or instead read CoBL. They are quality.

palestra38
Professor
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11-14-23 11:08 AM - Post#359168    

I don't think we'll ever know what was wrong with Clark for much of last season, although I think there was a leg injury that he tried to play through. But he appears to be back to Superman rather than Clark Kent.
AsiaSunset
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11-14-23 11:08 AM - Post#359169    

One thing that seems obvious to me is that Clark Slachert has really improved his handle. Between Clark, Tyler, Cam and George I think our ability to handle pressure defenses looks better than it did for recent Penn teams.
andybech
Freshman
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11-14-23 11:15 AM - Post#359170    

So if Villanova beats St. Joe's do we finish 3rd in the pod because the rankings are based on some sort of power rating?

In the St. Joe's game the announcers alluded to the 3-way 1-1 tie but kind of glossed over the outcome and how unfair it might be.
palestra38
Professor
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11-14-23 11:24 AM - Post#359171    

Yes. Ties are broken by ranking. So we need to root for Joe's, not that the seed in the bogus "tournament" really matters.
jeromelh
Junior
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11-14-23 11:25 AM - Post#359172    

A couple of points. I saw last year's Penn team and I felt that it was too Dingle-centric. His teammates seemed to be looking for him all of the time. I saw him as one dimensional. While I was wrong to call him as a defensive liability, I saw him as a great scorer, but nothing more. I think Perkins is going to be an overall better player before he graduates. The team's movement and coordination are so much better than last year (in my opinion). If Penn keeps improving, they can be a threat to claim the Ivy title.
This week's performance by Penn, Princeton and Yale shows that any ranked FBS team who plays one of these 3 teams and takes them lightly, does so at its own peril.
Tiger69
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11-14-23 12:06 PM - Post#359178    

Nice win. Few things give me greater satisfaction than beating Penn in bball. But, having once been in tho old V field house among a truly obnoxious crowd, this is one of them.
palestra38
Professor
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11-14-23 12:36 PM - Post#359182    

Jensen's last column is up---covering that Palestra battle. For those debating the merits of having professional sports journalists, compare it with the earlier article on the game.

https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/villan ova/...
91Quake
PhD Student
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11-14-23 02:47 PM - Post#359186    

His FT shooting is really weak, sad, anything but a superhero Clark Kent. Very strange but my impression is he is front rimming most of those misses.

Almost gave the game away at the line last night, which could just be a link to our better teams for many years.
SRP
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11-14-23 04:11 PM - Post#359190    

On ESPN last night, I saw that their in-house Basketball Power Index had given Penn a 38% probability of winning the game. I would have thought lower, so perhaps I was guilty of lazy brand-name thinking (I know nothing about Villanova’s team this year).
palestra38
Professor
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11-14-23 04:51 PM - Post#359191    

Just one bad game at the line. But he was great against St. Joe's---Clark can shoot FTs
PennFan10
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11-14-23 07:06 PM - Post#359195    

  • 91Quake Said:
His FT shooting is really weak, sad, anything but a superhero Clark Kent. Very strange but my impression is he is front rimming most of those misses.

Almost gave the game away at the line last night, which could just be a link to our better teams for many years.



Clark Slajchert is a career 85% FT shooter. I mean you could at least spend 30 seconds to look it up before posting wrong information. SMH.

penn nation
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11-14-23 07:43 PM - Post#359196    

Spinoso is the guy who, if he could ever learn to hit his FTs, could be a tremendous offensive force.
91Quake
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11-14-23 07:49 PM - Post#359198    

I'm talking about this season. Not his freshman year. Not his sophomore year. Not his junior year. THIS year. Check the numbers then give me your insight.
penn nation
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11-14-23 08:44 PM - Post#359199    

Based on 9 total FTs attempted?

When he was over 86% for his first two seasons, over 128 FTs attempted?

I think he'll be just fine.
Penndemonium
PhD Student
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11-14-23 08:53 PM - Post#359200    

Clark is a player quite unlike any other small guard we've had. He has really good handles and can slip into small spaces easily. He's a complete whirling dervish around the court, darting through defenses and stepping in for offensive rebounds. He can create his own shots, but mostly in the mid-range. He is very good in the mid-range, but a bit streaky - probably b/c the midrange has a higher degree of difficulty. He has a good outside shot, but not a great one, so he is much better getting set up for an open three than creating his own. This year, his defense looks a lot stronger than past years. At the end of the day, he is a very good player but not a clearly dominant championship #1 guard over the last few years. Hopefully this is the year!


TheLine
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11-14-23 09:09 PM - Post#359202    

Unsung player of the game was Eddie Holland.

4-6 from the field, with 2-3 on 3FGs, and 12 pts.
5 rebounds, 3 assists, only 1 TO.

I think he was mostly guarding Burton, who had a quiet night.

SomeGuy
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11-14-23 09:56 PM - Post#359206    

My insight is that in small sample sizes you can get weird results. Once in a while an 85% shooter misses a couple in a row. It doesn’t mean he suddenly can’t shoot. He’s taken enough free throws at this point that we know what he is. Which is why we intentionally got him to the line at the end. Everybody knows who our best free throw shooter is.
SomeGuy
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11-14-23 10:02 PM - Post#359207    

We are getting great play from the 4 position, which almost looks like a new position to me in our offense. Holland and Laz have been amazingly efficient (both shooting over 70% from the field), getting good shots and putting the ball in the basket. And the energy and defense has been great as well. I believe we’re actually getting our highest scoring output per minute from the 4 position so far (masked by the fact that nobody is playing big minutes). Walter has been good there too, though he was exclusively playing the 5 last night.
TheLine
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11-14-23 10:44 PM - Post#359211    

This is the first time in a while that Donahue has had a 4 who could shoot. Lucas had been mostly playing 4 and before that it was Max.

Donahue seems to be utilizing Holland and Laz similar to how he used Jaques back when he was at Cornell.

PennFan10
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11-15-23 04:09 AM - Post#359217    

  • 91Quake Said:
I'm talking about this season. Not his freshman year. Not his sophomore year. Not his junior year. THIS year. Check the numbers then give me your insight.



Sure thing. THIS year he hit 3-4 FT in the last 15 seconds including 2 FT with 3 seconds left to extend the lead from 2 to 4 as we beat Villanova. Clark is an excellent FT shooter and probably the 1 guys SD wants at the line at the end of a game.
Charlie Fog
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11-15-23 07:19 AM - Post#359218    

  • PennFan10 Said:
  • 91Quake Said:
I'm talking about this season. Not his freshman year. Not his sophomore year. Not his junior year. THIS year. Check the numbers then give me your insight.



Sure thing. THIS year he hit 3-4 FT in the last 15 seconds including 2 FT with 3 seconds left to extend the lead from 2 to 4 as we beat Villanova. Clark is an excellent FT shooter and probably the 1 guys SD wants at the line at the end of a game.



It just "feels" like he is not a good free throw shooter!

Streamers
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Streamers
11-15-23 09:37 AM - Post#359223    

  • PennFan10 Said:

Sure thing. THIS year he hit 3-4 FT in the last 15 seconds including 2 FT with 3 seconds left to extend the lead from 2 to 4 as we beat Villanova. Clark is an excellent FT shooter and probably the 1 guys SD wants at the line at the end of a game.


You took the words right off of my keyboard.
TheLine
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11-15-23 11:13 AM - Post#359227    

FT shooting rates tend to be sticky from year to year.

Players sometimes improve their FT shooting - Fran Dougherty is an example. It's rarer that a player who has exhibited good FT shooting suddenly becomes bad.

It's highly likely Slacker had a couple of bad games and will revert to his established level.

10Q
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11-15-23 11:35 AM - Post#359229    

Slacker

Slacker rama

Slacker roony

Making copies
PennFan10
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11-15-23 02:11 PM - Post#359232    

Just so we are clear, prior to the last 15 seconds agains Nova, Clark was 1-5 from the line for the season. He is 4-9 now.
SteveChop
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11-15-23 04:36 PM - Post#359236    

Clark is still the guy that I want shooting key free throws,
OldBig5
Masters Student
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11-15-23 06:45 PM - Post#359238    

This Clark FT discussion is the ultimate small sample size argument. I am sure he will be fine with his FTs.

OldBig5
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11-15-23 06:48 PM - Post#359239    

  • jeromelh Said:
Here I am, a Princeton guy watching the game. With 32 seconds left to go Penn is up by 4. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS??



That is funny that a Princeton guy started this thread. I did look once or twice during the game and like others did not want to jinx the game by starting it.

Watched bits and pieces and then the full replay last night. Great effort and obviously result. Villanova may not be at the Wright level but they still have lots of talent and are way more athletic tham Penn.

The only disappointing thing to me is SD only playing 8. I think over the course of a year he needs to be playing 10-11 guys. Gerhart was the one missing and maybe Sam Brown when he is recovered, McMullen for a few minutes seems OK also. Onward and upward.

Cvonvorys
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Cvonvorys
11-15-23 10:19 PM - Post#359275    

  • OldBig5 Said:

The only disappointing thing to me is SD only playing 8. I think over the course of a year he needs to be playing 10-11 guys. Gerhart was the one missing and maybe Sam Brown when he is recovered, McMullen for a few minutes seems OK also. Onward and upward.




What? You’re disappointed we only played 8? You think we still would’ve won if we played 11? You think if we played 11, we win by even more? Seriously? Over the course of the entire 40-minute game, if we miss one of our shots we made on offense and Nova hit one more 3-pointer…. WE LOSE! Which seems entirely possible when playing lesser players… Even for a few minutes each. But I’m pretty sure you won’t be disappointed on Saturday. I would expect to see at least 11 see floor time.

Question for the board: What was the most recent Penn game that was a “bigger win” than this one?
SomeGuy
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11-15-23 11:48 PM - Post#359282    

I think with the losses to injury/transfer/graduatio n it makes sense to play your core together as much as you can. So I’m perfectly comfortable with the 8. We’ll see whether Walter has actually moved ahead of Gerhart, or if that was just a matchup thing.

In terms of cohesion and playing together, this group is already cooperating on defense far better than the last two Penn teams. For whatever reason, they’re playing more as a team on defense so far.
weinhauers_ghost
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11-16-23 01:59 AM - Post#359287    

That might be a function of adding zone to the defensive toolkit. It's hard to play zone effectively without communicating. Maybe the improved communication will find its way to the man to man defense as well.
TheLine
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11-16-23 10:24 AM - Post#359297    

  • Cvonvorys Said:
Question for the board: What was the most recent Penn game that was a “bigger win” than this one?


Penn won the Big 5 not that long ago.
2018-19 season.

Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
11-16-23 12:51 PM - Post#359301    

  • TheLine Said:
  • Cvonvorys Said:
Question for the board: What was the most recent Penn game that was a “bigger win” than this one?


Penn won the Big 5 not that long ago.
2018-19 season.




Agree, that last win over Villanova was bigger. That was peak Jay Wright Nova. Over the last 9 years of Jay Wright as Coach of Nova, that was his only Big 5 loss. Something like 33-1 over that span (couple games missed over COVID season).
OldBig5
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11-16-23 10:19 PM - Post#359323    

  • Cvonvorys Said:
  • OldBig5 Said:

The only disappointing thing to me is SD only playing 8. I think over the course of a year he needs to be playing 10-11 guys. Gerhart was the one missing and maybe Sam Brown when he is recovered, McMullen for a few minutes seems OK also. Onward and upward.




What? You’re disappointed we only played 8? You think we still would’ve won if we played 11? You think if we played 11, we win by even more? Seriously? Over the course of the entire 40-minute game, if we miss one of our shots we made on offense and Nova hit one more 3-pointer…. WE LOSE! Which seems entirely possible when playing lesser players… Even for a few minutes each. But I’m pretty sure you won’t be disappointed on Saturday. I would expect to see at least 11 see floor time.

Question for the board: What was the most recent Penn game that was a “bigger win” than this one?



I am talking about long term. The team faded last year down the stretch and in certain games.

And no I don't think playing another two guys two or three minutes each would have made much difference either way.
OldBig5
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11-16-23 10:20 PM - Post#359324    

  • TheLine Said:
  • Cvonvorys Said:
Question for the board: What was the most recent Penn game that was a “bigger win” than this one?


Penn won the Big 5 not that long ago.
2018-19 season.



He deleted that from his memory because it does not fit with his agenda.
Cvonvorys
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Cvonvorys
11-17-23 12:17 AM - Post#359328    

  • OldBig5 Said:
  • Cvonvorys Said:
  • OldBig5 Said:

The only disappointing thing to me is SD only playing 8. I think over the course of a year he needs to be playing 10-11 guys. Gerhart was the one missing and maybe Sam Brown when he is recovered, McMullen for a few minutes seems OK also. Onward and upward.




What? You’re disappointed we only played 8? You think we still would’ve won if we played 11? You think if we played 11, we win by even more? Seriously? Over the course of the entire 40-minute game, if we miss one of our shots we made on offense and Nova hit one more 3-pointer…. WE LOSE! Which seems entirely possible when playing lesser players… Even for a few minutes each. But I’m pretty sure you won’t be disappointed on Saturday. I would expect to see at least 11 see floor time.

Question for the board: What was the most recent Penn game that was a “bigger win” than this one?



I am talking about long term. The team faded last year down the stretch and in certain games.

And no I don't think playing another two guys two or three minutes each would have made much difference either way.



So it’s your contention that you know more about coaching big time college basketball than coach Donahue? And you know more about the current Penn team than coach Donahue?
OldBig5
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11-17-23 07:05 PM - Post#359357    

I apologize profusely for questioning the coach's decisions here on the this message board. I know that has not happened before. I will be more careful.



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