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JDP Masters Student Posts 617 |
03-29-24 04:52 PM - Post#366691
Not good for Ivy Basketball https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/17 738139821... |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21799 |
03-29-24 05:04 PM - Post#366692
Quite a difference, this late Friday afternoon from last Friday at this time. |
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iogyhufi Masters Student Posts 682 |
03-29-24 05:25 PM - Post#366694
Yep, that's a tough one. Hopefully this gets some rears in gear NIL-wise. |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
03-29-24 05:33 PM - Post#366695
i guess we will be small next year even if samson stays. too bad. wouldve been an epic frontcourt! no surprise. just bummed |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
03-29-24 05:34 PM - Post#366696
no rears are in gear as i have reported. just reality. |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
03-29-24 05:42 PM - Post#366698
i am going to sign off. i posted too much info anyway. and frankly no one cares or listens anyway. wolf will make more than my son who will make more than me next year. disruption. its a shame. and for reasons i cited and others genuinely dug into on financial aid. we arent doing anything. no momentum. could it change? of course. but i am not optimistic |
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mobrien Masters Student Posts 406 |
03-29-24 06:04 PM - Post#366701
https://x.com/travisbranham_/status /17738173225593... Just crazy levels of tampering going on |
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umbrellaman Masters Student Posts 476 
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03-29-24 06:21 PM - Post#366702
People will make their choices I suppose. Are these NIL contracts guaranteed against an ACL tear? I am also reminded of what a Brown alum (played 106 games, maxed 8.4 PPG as a junior) said at halftime of the Princeton game as to what he was up to - finishing his fifteenth year at Goldman. |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
03-29-24 06:32 PM - Post#366703
yep. of course. see that pearl interview from last week. he had a show cause and discussed it. here are the limitations for yale for thise interested and then i will be quiet for a long while bc its depressing anywat in no order 1. bball kids of recent vintage who are high major dont really use the degree to a maximum. so why not maximize bball outcomes and how do you stop that. its cultural and its financial 2. fin aid tax issues are a barrier to a collective moving the needle. we are talking abt big money for wolfs (and maybe etc unfortunately) 3. small sample of $ alums just dont believe in it and think its a recurring issue and just expensive our bball community of givers isnt that expansive so weight falls on fewer who are not confident in outcomes for yale and the ivy league and while dismayed arent going to be proactive as an aside as i have written on various team board the sec football nil (which set the standard)--- has massive numbers of small donors and businesses hard to compete with that given above and as noted by others in various ways and part and parcel to above ---need scholarships anyway |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
03-29-24 06:37 PM - Post#366705
and good insight from you "mobrien" earlier you were ahead of it. georgetown has to be up there u'd think nil agent commission will be nice |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
03-29-24 06:41 PM - Post#366708
not all are the same but theoretically. some are pushing back bc they dont get whats promised. but UT AU UGA FSU battles end. very credible and tight feedback loops mean the imposters get found out fast. they are annual deals like a scholarship |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2294 
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03-29-24 06:42 PM - Post#366709
wolf will make more than my son who will make more than me next year. Hard to fathom. And I have appreciated your insights (except those regarding MH as a player  ) |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
 03-29-24 06:51 PM - Post#366712
he was a great player and is a great coach full adult respect. i am sad for the implications and all ivy fans. wonder when and where it bottoms. my best to all. was super fun |
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jeromelh Junior Posts 225 |
04-03-24 07:20 PM - Post#366929
According to On3.com, Wolf has committed to Michigan State University |
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jeromelh Junior Posts 225 |
04-03-24 07:20 PM - Post#366930
Michigan, not Michigan State |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4936 |
04-04-24 03:23 PM - Post#366991
The Dusty May experience. His FAU teams played really hard and together. I wasn’t always impressed by their judgment under stress, but Wolf will be a much better passer than any big the Owls had. |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-20-24 02:23 PM - Post#367623
Wolf to Michigan is official. In other news the trend is accelerating league wide including at Princeton. But mostly crickets on my prophecies last fall. Was speaking to a friend on fsu's staff. They have 2 players now. FedEx giving 25mm to nil at Memphis for multiple sports but mostly bball and football. If I didn't have 2 sons playing d1 next few yrs I wld quit being a fan. But i have no choice |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-20-24 02:26 PM - Post#367624
for Yale's sake I hope the roster is stable as of now for next year. If so they will be good in this league. But you can't compete nationally with all the ivy disadvs unless you are older than the comp. That game is over. I hope aletan blows up next year. But if so he likely leaves etc etc |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6428 |
04-20-24 03:34 PM - Post#367628
While the league loses a bunch of good players to the portal, more are staying than leaving. So hopefully Aletan would stick around, like Poulakidas and Mbeng, etc. But it is definitely scary. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4936 |
04-20-24 09:22 PM - Post#367634
It is alarming when the likes of FSU, with big-time sports ambitions, have to go prowling the portal to build their entire roster. The part I can’t figure out is how the numbers add up across D1 P6. If they are all raiding the mid-majors and low majors, what happens to all the guys who leave before graduating? Are they moving back to mids? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 33487 |
04-20-24 09:53 PM - Post#367635
Ivy players aren't transferring to FSU. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6428 |
04-20-24 10:50 PM - Post#367637
They may be bringing in fewer freshmen. So the D1 P6 builds their rosters through transfers, and more of the incoming freshmen go to mids. No idea if that is empirically true, but it would explain who’s the numbers add up. |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-21-24 01:02 AM - Post#367640
I cld write a book on fsu. To see extent understanding their plight was the catalyst to understanding the whole mosaic reshaping college sports. Context- I grew up in Tally, my dad played football there and was a lifetime golden chief and through the execution of his will we are involved in the battles end, a top 5 NIL org which funds the football program. I do know two Dartmouth and one Harvard kid who have grad transferred to fsu for football in last 3 yrs. They recruited 3 yale kids who opted for south Carolina and Tenn instead. On samson- |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-21-24 01:09 AM - Post#367641
I am hopeful you are correct. He only went to Yale to honor his late father who as a Nigerian immigrant became a compu sci prof at a small Texas school. Samson blew up late as a recruit-everyone who saw him the summer bf his senior year wanted him-texas Baylor tcu houston etc. But he went to yale bc he was sold on the education and his father's wishes. His primary recruiter is now at BU. I think he will blow up and wld be a Fool not to consider the money. The thing in Yale's favor- his late father's vision and he is an old school 5 not a wolf type in an era where schools can buy a 24 yr old to do what he does well. But I think he will be better than wolf on multiple fronts. He is the biggest most athletic kid at the 5 that Yale has had since Chris dudley |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-21-24 01:11 AM - Post#367642
Congrats to Matt knowling going to usc! Nice outcome for him The head was chopped off the IL talent but my god did we have some ballers. Everyone wants the top tier |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 33487 |
04-21-24 07:45 AM - Post#367644
Sorry, I thought we were talking basketball. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2294
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04-21-24 09:01 AM - Post#367646
Context- I grew up in Tally, my dad played football there and was a lifetime golden chief and through the execution of his will we are involved in the battles end, a top 5 NIL org which funds the football program. I do know two Dartmouth and one Harvard kid who have grad transferred to fsu for football in last 3 yrs. They recruited 3 yale kids who opted for south Carolina and Tenn instead. Interesting perspective. Are the collectives allowed to contact a player at another school before he even expresses interest in transferring??? |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1895 |
04-21-24 11:03 AM - Post#367653
I find it hard to believe that players aren’t being contacted by other schools (or boosters) before entering the portal. Would we call this “recruiting?” I also wonder about the conversations players have with their existing coaches. Did the 4 Princeton players who jumped meet with Mitch beforehand to ask him where they stood with him next year? Puts a different spin on Mitch’s comment after the season ending loss that he’d be talking with the players about goals for next year. By the way, Duke has now lost 7 players to the portal. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/... |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-22-24 07:33 AM - Post#367670
its as dirty as you can imagine. there are no rules! we all know how dirty the recruiting game was when there are rules. as for football vs basketball... the case study that foreshadowed portal chaos started in football. this is where the revenue is primarily where the collectives were birthed first and obviously it is driving conference realignment. so ignoring machinations within the football apparatus would be like investing in retail stocks but not understanding amazons disruptive business model |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-22-24 07:37 AM - Post#367671
james jones admitted in an interview w field of 68 that wolf had nil offers. that was in february |
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iogyhufi Masters Student Posts 682 |
04-22-24 10:23 AM - Post#367676
For what it's worth, I've heard that Danny Wolf grew up a huge Michigan fan, and that he was considering walking on there as a freshman vs. going to Yale. So it's kind of hard to blame him for wanting to go there now that they want him as a centerpiece (plus it might help allay some of the the-sky-is-falling concerns a bit). |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2294
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04-22-24 11:00 AM - Post#367681
Thanks. He is going in with a new head coach and coaching staff, but I assume he is comfortable with that. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 33487 |
04-26-24 01:12 PM - Post#367784
Does anyone else seeing this thread keep thinking it's a helluva title for a novel? |
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TigerFan PhD Student Posts 1895 |
04-29-24 01:54 PM - Post#367896
This can’t help Wolf’s playing time next year: Florida Atlantic big follows coach to Michigan. https://x.com/wojespn/status/178494 3775904833792?s... |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1177 |
04-29-24 03:32 PM - Post#367899
Does anyone else seeing this thread keep thinking it's a helluva title for a novel? I was thinking a song parody. And the Wolf’s in the portal Yale, yes it's true Big man gonna wear maize and blue When you coming home, Dan, he don’t know when But he’ll dunk you on your head, yeah You know he’ll have a good time then… |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
04-29-24 10:17 PM - Post#367901
my guess is you have to put danny at the 4 anyway given how limited his post game is how do you defend the spread with 2 7 footers on the floor at the same yime is a ? |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2153 |
04-30-24 12:55 AM - Post#367903
my guess is you have to put danny at the 4 anyway given how limited his post game is how do you defend the spread with 2 7 footers on the floor at the same yime is a ? I could see how that might be a serious matchup problem, even for Big 10 teams. Let's wait to see who ends up running the point for that team, though. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3601 |
04-30-24 09:05 AM - Post#367904
Obviously those two would create matchup problems on the offensive end. Most college coaches are more worried about who the two seven footers are gonna defend on the other end. It's not a zero sum game. You can't score 80 and give up 90. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2294
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04-30-24 10:52 AM - Post#367905
Princeton was able to handle two 7 footers (well, 6'11 and 7) in the NCAA tournament when they played Arizona. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4936 |
05-01-24 07:46 PM - Post#367978
The FAU transfer can take the post-defense/rim-protecto r duties off Wolf’s hands. And he’s more back-to-the-basket than Wolf offensively. Looks like a good complementary fit to me. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2713 |
05-01-24 08:38 PM - Post#367980
At FAU Goldin only played 25 MPG. There are enough minutes for both of them to play separately, and together. |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
05-01-24 10:32 PM - Post#367985
as noted clearly they paid for dannys strengths and will likely not make him an old school 5 this being said iif he can gain any lift and rim finishing ability while at um the kid has quite a ceiling. he ate the ball too much at year end but he also showed his perimeter quickness to the rim against broome etc tough loss. but samson will likely blow up this year amd tear a rim off what a frontcourt that wouldve been. oh well |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
05-01-24 10:36 PM - Post#367987
we go from wolf/samson to samson. next man up. have little size otherwise but samson will likely blow up. we go from layups to rim runs need a freshman shooter to step up. my guess is mullen and samson make big jumps is it enough? who knows |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21799 |
05-01-24 10:38 PM - Post#367988
we go from wolf/samson to samson. And then maybe from Samson to...Samsonite? |
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james Masters Student Posts 808 |
05-01-24 10:45 PM - Post#367990
did the portal close? if so need simmons to find a jump shot samson to blow up mullen to be a shotmaker bez to hit a 3 molloy to resurface townsend to grow but stay a beast poulkidas to shoot like he did against auburn and one of brathwaite fox or celiscar to show some range then we are competitive |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4936 |
05-04-24 03:15 PM - Post#368121
No haircuts for Samson. |
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