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palestra38
Professor
Posts 32902
04-14-24 07:16 AM - Post#367382    

https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketbal l/trans...

So staying in the Philly area. Wonder the price.
Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts 1903
04-14-24 09:40 PM - Post#367409    

Wow. I don’t begrudge his right to choose. The young man played well for us and showed a lot of promise. It’s hard to see him as an impact player at Nova. He will need to really tighten his handles and shooting. Really sorry to lose him. With him and a good incoming class, I finally saw a path forward for our program. He was a key part, though.
yoyo
Senior
Posts 365
04-15-24 09:23 AM - Post#367411    

I wish they would publish what these transfers get in regards to NIL
Penn90
Masters Student
Posts 575
Penn90
04-15-24 09:52 AM - Post#367416    

Now THAT would be interesting!
Leges sine moribus vanae

yoyo
Senior
Posts 365
04-15-24 09:55 AM - Post#367417    

Even better, put what they are getting next to their names in the game programs.
Streamers
Professor
Posts 8332
Streamers
04-15-24 10:57 AM - Post#367419    

Maybe Verbal Commits will add that... ;-)
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
04-15-24 01:11 PM - Post#367430    

Getting poached by Nova. Awesome. This is the second year in a row that a coach we faced in the regular season season went on to steal our top talent. Really great trend here. I could have stomached him going home to play for Georgetown. This is just a slap in the face.
yoyo
Senior
Posts 365
04-15-24 02:55 PM - Post#367445    

Did we play st johns last year?
penn nation
Professor
Posts 21303
04-15-24 03:34 PM - Post#367448    

We opened our season at Iona when Pitino was there.
weinhauers_ghost
Postdoc
Posts 2144
04-15-24 06:36 PM - Post#367458    

  • Quakers03 Said:
Getting poached by Nova. Awesome. This is the second year in a row that a coach we faced in the regular season season went on to steal our top talent. Really great trend here. I could have stomached him going home to play for Georgetown. This is just a slap in the face.



I agree completely. Now he gets to torment us for the next three years.
TigerFan
PhD Student
Posts 1892
04-15-24 07:52 PM - Post#367461    

Ouch! I actually feel for you guys. I've been naive about the portal/NIL but I now agree that college basketball is off the rails. Double Princeton basketball legacy Jack Scott deciding to chum the waters with his 2.3 ppg and 2.2 rpg has pushed me over the edge. (Although I guess now I can go back to hating on his father for his reign of terror at Tiger Town.)
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32902
04-15-24 08:04 PM - Post#367462    

Under the new Big 6 format, we don't play Villanova every year
weinhauers_ghost
Postdoc
Posts 2144
04-15-24 08:13 PM - Post#367463    

  • palestra38 Said:
Under the new Big 6 format, we don't play Villanova every year



His mere presence on their roster will be torment enough.
Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts 1903
04-15-24 10:05 PM - Post#367468    

TigerFan, nice job twisting the knife. Well played.

barryw
Sophomore
Posts 122
04-16-24 03:05 PM - Post#367481    

Reasons to hate Villanova if you are a Penn fan- 1. They are the ones who started the breakup of the Big Five. 2. NCAA loss to them in early 1970’s 90-47. 3. Now stealing our best expected returning player.
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
04-16-24 03:25 PM - Post#367483    

My grandfather never got over that loss. He hated them until the day he died for it. Kept the starters in until the end.
SteveChop
PhD Student
Posts 1156
04-16-24 06:23 PM - Post#367487    

Fortunately, I haven’t died yet but as one who was at that 1971 game, I’ve never forgiven them either (and don’t plan to).
mbaprof
Senior
Posts 346
04-16-24 07:12 PM - Post#367490    

I thought the pods were permanent to preserve the rivalries

SteveChop
PhD Student
Posts 1156
04-16-24 09:42 PM - Post#367495    

That was my understanding as well.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32902
04-17-24 08:13 AM - Post#367501    

I've heard conflicting things about it. But if that is true, does that mean we never play Temple, LaSalle or Drexel other than a possible Big 5 tournament final anymore? That would be terrible.
yoyo
Senior
Posts 365
04-17-24 11:05 AM - Post#367513    

It won't matter. At this rate the ivies will not be division one much longer
yoyo
Senior
Posts 365
04-17-24 11:10 AM - Post#367514    

Interesting Perkins chose villanova for the meal plan
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/do es-tyler-...
mobrien
Masters Student
Posts 403
04-17-24 11:33 AM - Post#367520    

Perkins lit up Nova when you guys beat Nova, and now he plays for Nova.

Pretty good example of why there's an enormous disincentive for mid-majors to play Power Six schools now. That's just when your players get scouted, and the tampering begins.

Great system we have here.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32902
04-17-24 11:39 AM - Post#367521    

Only way to make money, though....
SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6415
04-17-24 11:48 AM - Post#367522    

Man, Brown just had a second undergrad starter enter the portal. I guess it makes me feel slightly better that it isn’t just a Steve problem. But this is tough. Brown had such a fun run, and it seemed like things were looking good for a real run next year. And then they lose Nana and Anya. I don’t know if the league is going to get worse next year or not, but it certainly is going to be different.
Quakers03
Professor
Posts 12533
04-17-24 12:07 PM - Post#367524    

  • SteveChop Said:
Fortunately, I haven’t died yet but as one who was at that 1971 game, I’ve never forgiven them either (and don’t plan to).


Do you have any memory of Nova heading from the airport straight to the Palestra to celebrate before coming home? That’s one I’ve been told too.

The Perkins acknowledgment just shows how fast we are sinking. I’ll never understand why the league wont acknowledge the benefits of good athletics. There is such little downside.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32902
04-17-24 12:25 PM - Post#367527    

It's risk and reward. The Ivies don't need athletics. More people are applying than ever, notwithstanding the cost, the endowments are huge and in the case of Penn, it may be the most profitable university in the country, holding a sizeable piece of the mRNA vaccine intellectual property (and royalties--over $1 billion a year the last 3 years) as well as Wharton money. What is Penn going to make from basketball, even with more of an investment? The current student body is nothing like it was in the Penn basketball heyday and doesn't care about sports. Unlike a school like Villanova, Penn doesn't need to attract students through successful sports teams. So it just isn't going to make the effort. If we lose our best players, oh well. Let's recruit some more.
Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts 1903
04-17-24 12:55 PM - Post#367531    

I've recently visited some Div. 2/3 schools, and I have to say that the atmosphere is plenty good for the student-athletes (aside from the major revenue sports). For student-athletes in most sports, it isn't even such a step down. A tennis player at upper Div. 2/3 gets as many fans in the stands as a player at Penn, for example. It may not represent the same level of competition on average, though some of them are very good. The rest of the experience is probably unchanged. I clearly have a soft spot for basketball. Football teams are just too large for me to want to passionately support their scholarships and NIL.
HARVARDDADGRAD
Postdoc
Posts 2700
04-17-24 02:51 PM - Post#367540    

Admission is now so competitive that the system doesn't 'reward' spectating. Excelling at anything - especially on a national level which is what admissions is looking for - takes so much time, in addition to top academic performance.

Seems student spectators at Ivy events are there to support their friends. I'd venture that - except for a rare contest (The Game, ECAC Hockey tournament) that a large percentage of students don't attend any athletic events unless they have a personal connection. That's certainly true at Harvard, maybe Penn/Princeton basketball, Cornell hockey and Dartmouth football are holdouts, but for how long if we lost our talent?
borschtbelt
Freshman
Posts 60
04-17-24 04:39 PM - Post#367549    

Two aggravating side notes--they know Porter was ineligible and did not care; at the time they had the most losses of any team ever in the NCAA and would not have made it had Ernie DiGregorio not missed a one and one in the field house early in the season--a 90% foul shooter.
Also--on the way home Steve Chop stopped at a restaurant in Richmond. Eight years later on 3/23/79 my rehearsal dinner was there. We know what happened the day after (besides my wedding).
SteveChop
PhD Student
Posts 1156
04-17-24 09:13 PM - Post#367552    

Can’t respond re any Palestra celebration. I was in a car driving home so they would have been long gone by the time I got back to Philadelphia. Never heard that before.



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