BRW - why do you keep missing the forest for the trees. He's supporting Nate exclusively. If Nate was at Penn State he would have been in different states and different gyms. So my comment is not disgraceful. I'm making the distinction that my only interest is in the program, the kids, and the University whereas BF4's only interest is Nate. That's a big distinction --- wake up. That thankfully is my last post on the matter for the second time until someone else pisses me off to no end with an inane contribution